View Full Version : New Member...Head question..


Call_Me_James
08-02-2008, 05:46 PM
Whats up guys? new member here, came over from the BB forums. My names James, I'm slowly getting back into boxing, I used to box when I was around 14, now 21, I stopped boxing and got into weight lifting. Now that I'm trying to get back in, I've got a slight problem.

Everytime I get punched in the face/head, I get a head pain that lasts up to 2 minutes if I settle down. I've asked some about the issue, could it be that I'm not used to the boxing world yet?. Do I just need more training?

msagrain
08-02-2008, 06:18 PM
You could ask your doctor if it is effecting you that much.

peewee1460
08-02-2008, 07:20 PM
It could be an involuntary muscle spasm, but I would speak to a doctor if it persists for more than two or three weeks.

KostyaTszyu44
08-02-2008, 07:34 PM
hmm thats weird my head never hurts unless ive taken like 50 hard shots

but then again i was told i had a very good chin so i dunno maybe thats just me

Domey
08-02-2008, 07:41 PM
I wouldn't spar anymore untill you talk to your doctor.

RMAcero
08-02-2008, 09:06 PM
Definitely talk to your doctor, friend.

fraidycat
08-02-2008, 10:37 PM
The two things you do not **** around with in this sport are headaches and hand pain.

See a doctor. Right now.

Call_Me_James
08-03-2008, 12:10 AM
Well, I mean the headache jumps in once punched, then goes away in a bout a minute or two, so I'll definatly ask a doctor about it, but I'm sure all he'll say is "boxing is bad for you", same thing every doctor has told me before, lol.

Cliff notes about me:

weight lifting is my life, 5 days a week.
currently cutting, 2000 cals a day, standing at 6'0, 210 pounds.
NO aerobic cardio whatsoever in my regimen.

Fernando Torres
08-03-2008, 12:15 AM
The two things you do not **** around with in this sport are headaches and hand pain.

See a doctor. Right now.
I dunno, hand pains are fairly standard! If it is not disabling I leave it or just give it some ice. Depends how serious an injury is. Obviously this guy has serious issues lasting 2 minutes.
hmm thats weird my head never hurts unless ive taken like 50 hard shots

but then again i was told i had a very good chin so i dunno maybe thats just me

Why on earth would anyone want to take 50 hard head shots? One word for you: defence.

fraidycat
08-03-2008, 12:48 AM
Well, I mean the headache jumps in once punched, then goes away in a bout a minute or two, so I'll definatly ask a doctor about it, but I'm sure all he'll say is "boxing is bad for you", same thing every doctor has told me before, lol.

Cliff notes about me:

weight lifting is my life, 5 days a week.
currently cutting, 2000 cals a day, standing at 6'0, 210 pounds.
NO aerobic cardio whatsoever in my regimen.

On the bolded parts:

1.) You need to consult a sports medicine specialist. Not an orthopedist, not a GP. Find a D.O. if you can, and make sure his card or Yellow Pages listing says "Sports Medicine." I go to the guy who is the team doctor for our pro baseball team. If your town doesn't have pro sports, consult your local high school's football coach and find out who he sends his star players to. Hell, ask your boxing coach who he recommends. Somewhere in every town is a doctor for guys who do stupid **** and need to keep doing it.

2.) It is possible that your headache is at least partially caused by a low VO2 max. It may not necessarily be the blow to the head; you might be on the verge of blacking out and the punch to the head could be putting you just over the cliff. Especially if the symptom goes away after a few minutes. I'm just spitballing, here, but stick with me: when you get hit hard, you tense up. That's just physiology. When you tense up, you need even more oxygen; you're trying to feed every muscle in your body -- in your case, you're probably carrying 150 lbs. of muscle -- at the same time.

Whether your doc detemines that it's head-related or lung-related, you need to get your ass on a treadmill or a stairclimber; even start going for long walks in the mornings and work in some sprints. You have a physique that's going to take a staggering amount of oxygen to keep going in the ring. I'm 170, fight at 164, and the difference for me just in losing 10 lbs. (used to be 180 fighting at 175) was considerable in the ring. I have breezed through my fights at middleweight -- from a cardio standpoint, anyway. A competitive boxer needs to be able to oxgenate like a triathlete; my analogy is, boxing three rounds is like running up a mile of stairs with a pair of Dobermans chasing you. I know lots of good boxers who don't have a bodybuilder's physique, but they can all run flat-out for longer than you'd believe. At our gym, we train to outwork our opponents above all.

Call_Me_James
08-03-2008, 12:57 AM
Beautiful advice, much appreciated. Will definatly do so.

TheTruthIs
08-03-2008, 01:08 AM
Lots of reasons for headaches. For a boxer though, it is good to stay informed. Every active (fighting/sparring) boxer should keep this list close by of TBI as a reference...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traumatic_brain_injury#Signs_and_symptoms

TheTruthIs
08-03-2008, 01:14 AM
And not to frighten you, but to keep awareness of the sport you and I are in.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/70012.php

IBFHvyWtChamp
08-03-2008, 01:31 AM
It could be nothing, but it could also be serious. I would speak with a doctor before taking any more shots.

Domey
08-03-2008, 08:05 AM
I was in a car accident when I was 17 years old. I was suppose to enter the Golden Gloves that year and then turn pro. This was 7 years ago. I am just now getting back into the ring.

I suffered from a factured neck. I also had(Been getting them again) chronic neck and back pain, muscle spasms, and chronic migrains. I would wake up literally every day with a migrain from hell, and have to lay in my dark, cold, quiet room for hours for it to go away.

I seen a neurologist, neurosergeon, a pain specialist(Got quarterzone shots in my neck/back), been through physical therapy twice, seen two chiropracters twice a week. I've been on every migrain medication that's out there. I was even on Imatrex injections, nothing helped.

Finally the second chiropractor I started seeing gave me some breathing room and helped. I started seeing him once a week and it has helped ever since. My migrains were gone for almost two years. I get them still, probally once a week, but it is nothing like they use to be.

Do not mess around with head injuries. As been said, it could be nothing, but it also could be something very serious. Personally, I would get a MRI done.

fraidycat
08-03-2008, 01:18 PM
I was in a car accident when I was 17 years old. I was suppose to enter the Golden Gloves that year and then turn pro. This was 7 years ago. I am just now getting back into the ring.

I suffered from a factured neck. I also had(Been getting them again) chronic neck and back pain, muscle spasms, and chronic migrains. I would wake up literally every day with a migrain from hell, and have to lay in my dark, cold, quiet room for hours for it to go away.

I seen a neurologist, neurosergeon, a pain specialist(Got quarterzone shots in my neck/back), been through physical therapy twice, seen two chiropracters twice a week. I've been on every migrain medication that's out there. I was even on Imatrex injections, nothing helped.

Finally the second chiropractor I started seeing gave me some breathing room and helped. I started seeing him once a week and it has helped ever since. My migrains were gone for almost two years. I get them still, probally once a week, but it is nothing like they use to be.

Do not mess around with head injuries. As been said, it could be nothing, but it also could be something very serious. Personally, I would get a MRI done.

I suffered a herniated disc and a severe neck sprain in a car wreck in March. Had to have surgery to repair it. I still get headaches from exertion occasionally, and a "stinger" -- a short, intense headache -- behind my ear from time to time. My doc put me through an MRI, 3 sets of X-rays, a bone scan, two separate neurological consults, plus three months of PT and chiropractic, before even letting me spar.

Turns out my headaches are muscular -- scar tissue in my neck causes the stiffness that translates to an exertion headache and the "stinger" is a cramp at the vertex of the sternocleidomastoid. But it took $10,000 worth of tests to make freaking sure and no way in hell was I -- or my doctor -- going to let someone beat on my melon until we were certain.