Anyone done these? I know there is little scientific evidence, but if they can get me running and skipping again science can go get stuffed. I'm feeling better so far.

Anyone done these? I know there is little scientific evidence, but if they can get me running and skipping again science can go get stuffed. I'm feeling better so far.


Why cant you run and skip?

I feel like they help me recover faster as well. Whether it's physiological or psychological, I don't know, but it makes me feel better.

Why cant you run and skip?

Shinsplints build up from running and skipping, but general boxing is okay. I could probably skip for 10 minutes a day for about a week before they get too bad. The same with two 30min runs close to each other. The recovery time for this can be two to three weeks...

i used to get shin splints until i learned a stretch. it's difficult to describe, you need a curb or something to brace your foot against. put the ball of one of your feet on top of the curb. then with the same knee as the foot on the curb, lean over your braced foot until you feel the calf on your braced leg strecthing. and if at anytime during your workout you feel them coming back repeat this strecth every 5 minutes or so until the pain subsides. that and bananas got rid of my shin splints. hope it helps.

i used to get shin splints until i learned a stretch. it's difficult to describe, you need a curb or something to brace your foot against. put the ball of one of your feet on top of the curb. then with the same knee as the foot on the curb, lean over your braced foot until you feel the calf on your braced leg strecthing. and if at anytime during your workout you feel them coming back repeat this strecth every 5 minutes or so until the pain subsides. that and bananas got rid of my shin splints. hope it helps.

Thanks! I stretch lots already but I might try that. Banana's?

bananas have a lot of potassium. potassium and calcium are the two essential minerals for muscle function. in other words low potassium=cramps.

bananas have a lot of potassium. potassium and calcium are the two essential minerals for muscle function. in other words low potassium=cramps.

I thought cramps and shin splints were two different things. Bananas and stretching definitely help a lot with muscle cramps and charlie horses, but, for me, shin splints are a completely different pain.

When I went to the doctor with my shin splint pain, he said it was a stress fracture. I had to take a month off. Now, after getting back into the rhythm of jump roping at the intensity that I jumped prior to the pain, I am starting to feel it again in my shins. I don't want to go to the doctor and have him tell me I have to take another month off again though.

Good luck with your shin splints, markeeta. I recommend doing a lot of swimming to keep your stamina up, while reducing the pressure on your shins.

Ryan Babel said it has helped him alot on Liverpoolfc.tv. I mention this because if LFc use it there must be some science behind it as Rafa recently got an honourary doctorate for applying scientific methods to football training.

Countless pro stables also swear by it as well as other Prem clubs: I remember seeing Paulo De Canio cry like a woman when he had to get in a BIN full of ice!!! Smelly Londoners gave the poor man a bin when he came to this country to play football. I found it extremely uncomfortable and will stick with a jacuzzi and steam room.

ice bath's sound great in theory, but i never had one. i mean... i am always icing soar elbows, wrists, knees, jaws, ribs, etc in training and it works for me, so an icebath seems like a good overall treatment.

seems like it would be pretty brutal on the boys downstairs though. and talk about shrinkage... yikes!

How often should you have an icebath?
Can it be dangerous?
Does it hurt? Lol

Sounds painful o_o

nice legs

ice bath's sound great in theory, but i never had one. i mean... i am always icing soar elbows, wrists, knees, jaws, ribs, etc in training and it works for me, so an icebath seems like a good overall treatment.

seems like it would be pretty brutal on the boys downstairs though. and talk about shrinkage... yikes!

I don't have any boys downstairs to worry about, so I've got that sorted. I have problems with my legs/knees/feet in general so I have been taking an ice bath after training every day. One or two ice packs just don't cover everything. I'll find out soon enough if they are worth it.

How often should you have an icebath?
Can it be dangerous?
Does it hurt? Lol

You get used to the cold pretty quick. Only dangerous if you stay in longer than 20min or make it too cold, but even then I wouldn't worry. I take blows to the head, I'd say an ice bath would be the least of my worries.

Sounds painful o_o

nice legs

thanks man, but my legs are why I'm ice bathing in the first place lol

Anyone done these? I know there is little scientific evidence, but if they can get me running and skipping again science can go get stuffed. I'm feeling better so far.

Ice baths are a son of a *****.....but you feel so refreshed afterwards they are really worth it

My trainer saw me in the gym after some light sparring and suggested that I look into taking an ice bath because I was icing all my joints. I couldn't stand it for 5 mins. but then it wasn't bad at all. It was soothing.

Worst **** is when you get a leg cramp in an ice bath.

If you live in England, the cold tap water in winter should be more than cold enough. I asked around and about this and someone said it s something to do with the blood in your muscles and helping you recover quicker. Less damage occurs if you have an ice bath straight after and it helps swelling in joints too. Alot of Premiership Clubs do this to their players. Probably just to make them earn their £100,000 a week!

If you live in England, the cold tap water in winter should be more than cold enough.

Yeah. I just fill my bath tub up with cold water until it covers my legs and add in some containers of ice from my freezer. That seems cold enough. I put the ice blocks close to the areas that hurt the most.

Where do you put them hands love? Be honest.

Where do you put them hands love? Be honest.

I assume you are talking to me because I doubt you'd dare call anyone else around here 'love'.

I also assume you are talking about me beating the beaver in the middle of a tub of ice.

So, if I am assuming correctly...

WHAT THE ****? Man I thought I was into kinky ****. If you wanna get jiggy in an ice bath that's just nasty. What's the point if you're so numb you can't feel anything?

:op:

what about the shin splints? are they gone?

Wow, the conversation directed towards Markeeta, rather humorous, but in a way also sick,lol. You guys got me a little interested in these Ice baths now, especially after a grueling session of training...

Wow, the conversation directed towards Markeeta, rather humorous, but in a way also sick,lol. You guys got me a little interested in these Ice baths now, especially after a grueling session of training...

Yes boys. Control yourself, there is a lady in the room ;-)

My shin splints are gone but my knees are ****ed. Ha! I'm about to go for a two hour run and I know what I'll be getting into at the end (yes sicko, interpret that how you want).

Yes boys. Control yourself, there is a lady in the room ;-)

My shin splints are gone but my knees are ****ed. Ha! I'm about to go for a two hour run and I know what I'll be getting into at the end (yes sicko, interpret that how you want).

Keep doing your physio exercise and them knees will get better love, trust me. Hang in there, I did for 3 years and now I am back to fitness. And don't worry if you get numb, I'll sort that right out no matter how cold it is. Just say please darling, just say please!

On a more serious note, does anyone know if you are meant to put bath foam in the water when you have one of these? I mean is it meant to be your proper wash too? I am always confused. I never liked putting upper body and freezing nipples so I always just filled it up to legs, and dipped in arms by side. Never bent the legs and dipped in body apartr from first time and it was HORRIBLE. Before the ice bath I have a hot shower because I though if you did it after, you won't be cold for as long and might undo effects. Have I got it right way round? Or should you do hot shwoer after to warm up again? Also, don't forget about the bath foam and floating duck, do you put them in?

p.s. I wasn't sure so I used the bath foam anyway.

p.s. I wasn't sure so I used the bath foam anyway.

I have my hot shower after. dunno what is good though.

Probably before. If it's after I think it will undo the good work for sure. You just want to get hot again I bet.

Just found this whilst browsing the Beeb:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sportacademy/hi/sa/treatment_room/features/newsid_3097000/3097114.stm

just tried the ice cold bath today, worked incredibly well for me, my muscles feel revived and I feel overall refreshed I followed it up with a cold shower (knob turned all the way to cold) and I feel like a million bucks!I think I'll stick to this. Thanks!

It's OK and refreshing in summer, but not so nice in winter. However, in winter English tap water requires no ice!!!

A man has got to do what a man has got to do.

I'm to manly to have Ice baths.

In his last movie it's funny how The Rock just sits in one like he is enjoying it.

In his last movie it's funny how The Rock just sits in one like he is enjoying it.

I just ran 15miles. My bath is filling up as we speak, and damn it, I shall enjoy single minute!

I just ran 15miles. My bath is filling up as we speak, and damn it, I shall enjoy single minute!

my ass you did, thats 24 kms!

and even if you did, that isnt really gonna help your boxing, for conditioning you need to do shorter more explosive runs and drills on the bag among toher things, running 24 kms is a waste of time

my ass you did, thats 24 kms!

and even if you did, that isnt really gonna help your boxing, for conditioning you need to do shorter more explosive runs and drills on the bag among toher things, running 24 kms is a waste of time

I lied, Just checked on 'where is' and was only just 20k. of course it will help my boxing... i do enough explosive stuff as it is... i enjoy it anyway

I couldn't imagine doing more than 10 miles. Hell I hate when I run 6, although I do love that time to myself to just run and think.

I couldn't imagine doing more than 10 miles. Hell I hate when I run 6, although I do love that time to myself to just run and think.

I think I have cured my shin splints... so I'm gonna run! I'm not fast and don't push myself, just find a steady pace and stick to it. The longer I run the easier it gets.

brock lesnar uses ice baths.. i think you could get the same effect by taking an anti-inflammitory and a swim in the pool

just tried my first icebath last night. i injured my right arm teaching a dodge ball class at the gym i work at on friday. then i sparred the next day and had to throw the right, despite barely being able to hold it up, to not show weakness in the ring and keep the guy off me. afterwards i could barely lift my arm. the pain was so bad that i couldnt tell what exactly i had injured- my rotator cuff, my elbow, my bicep, everything hurt so bad. after applying three packs of ice over my entire arm for about 30 minutes (until all of the ice was pretty much melted), my arm felt considerably better, but i felt that I could use some additional therapy...

so basically, after waiting a couple of hours, i filled the tub with cold water, emptied all my ice trays and a 5 lb bag of ice in and got in for about 12 minutes. it was a ***** getting in but once i was submerged for about a minute, i went so numb i could barely feel it. after words, i hopped up put the shower on warm water and took what evolved into a 15 minute-long hot shower....

the main problem for me, other then freezing my testes off upon first contact of course, was slinking my 6'3" frame into my little-ass tub. if my legs were cut off at the knee, id still have a hard time getting in that thing. im wondering if the strain on my back and neck in getting in is worth the therapeutic benefits. im gonna try again tonight with a 10lb bag and all of my icetrays and try and find the sweet spot...

15 mile 2 hour runs, sounds like bull**** to me. It will not help your boxing either. Stick to 7 miles. If you are doing it for fitness even then it sounds excessive. you might enjoy it now but you won;t enjoy it when you end up with no tits like Paula Radcliffe and end up with no knee cartlilidge and shint splints.

just tried my first icebath last night. i injured my right arm teaching a dodge ball class at the gym i work at on friday. then i sparred the next day and had to throw the right, despite barely being able to hold it up, to not show weakness in the ring and keep the guy off me. afterwards i could barely lift my arm. the pain was so bad that i couldnt tell what exactly i had injured- my rotator cuff, my elbow, my bicep, everything hurt so bad. after applying three packs of ice over my entire arm for about 30 minutes (until all of the ice was pretty much melted), my arm felt considerably better, but i felt that I could use some additional therapy...

so basically, after waiting a couple of hours, i filled the tub with cold water, emptied all my ice trays and a 5 lb bag of ice in and got in for about 12 minutes. it was a ***** getting in but once i was submerged for about a minute, i went so numb i could barely feel it. after words, i hopped up put the shower on warm water and took what evolved into a 15 minute-long hot shower....

the main problem for me, other then freezing my testes off upon first contact of course, was slinking my 6'3" frame into my little-ass tub. if my legs were cut off at the knee, id still have a hard time getting in that thing. im wondering if the strain on my back and neck in getting in is worth the therapeutic benefits. im gonna try again tonight with a 10lb bag and all of my icetrays and try and find the sweet spot...i'm 5'11''
I got a big tub upstairs but when I use small one downstairs I first do the legs stretched out with body at 90 degrees sitting up. Then I bend knees and do body.

15 mile 2 hour runs, sounds like bull**** to me. It will not help your boxing either. Stick to 7 miles. If you are doing it for fitness even then it sounds excessive. you might enjoy it now but you won;t enjoy it when you end up with no tits like Paula Radcliffe and end up with no knee cartlilidge and shint splints.

if you're training for amateur boxing and you are already near weight and have good conditioning, both are waaaaay excessive. interval training is the best way to train for amateur boxing. boxing is an anaerobic activity. it breaks down like this

0-9 seconds (all-out sprint) - phosphogen system
10 sec- 3 minutes - anaerobic (muscles operate with oxygen)
3 minutes and longer - aerobic system (muscles require oxygen)

i mean, the body never uses one system exclusively, they interact, but these are the phases that are completely dominant within those time intervals.

these facts (yes, facts- you can refer to the national strength and conditioning association for more info) is lost on most boxers, and many trainers as well. running long distance is an aerobic excercise and will not prepare you the best for a fight (especially an amateur fight with 3 or 4 2-minute rounds).

i do an assortment of interval training. here's a good one to build to:

start with a light 10 minute warmup jog that goes into a 2 minute all-out sprint. now its not techincally a sprint, because you can't maintain a "sprint" for a full 2 minutes, but basically just run as fast as you can. then bring it down to a slow jog for a minute. this is an "active rest" that is simulating your 1 minute break in between rounds. then rinse and repeat - 3 rounds for a novice, 4 for an open fighter. finish it out with a good 10 minute jog, just cooling down for the last 5 minutes of that 10 minutes. all in all- you have a 29 minute (or 32 minute for open fighters)-long piece that will burn calories, fat and better adapt you to be in excellent fighting shape. you are also running for less time total, so the saved impact means less strain on your joints (hips, knees and ankles) and you have less of a risk of overtraining as well....

I appreciate your advice, because my daily boxing routine is based around interval training. I know the different ways you can apply it and reasons why you would shorten or lengthen an interval.


I know I don't need to be specifically running 20km as part of a boxing routine, and I won't be doing that in one go every week. But there are a million reasons why I actually want to and why it benefits me specifically.

But I am curious to know why you would think I am at my correct fighting weight and why you think my conditioning is acceptable? What indicators have I given you so far for you to believe this?

I'm not training for the am's but even when I was I did about 3-5 miles per day depending on how I felt because I did have higher goals. You are right and it is excessive for the am's. Some am's just run 3 miles a day and do intervals at the gym during normal training. You need to do both. Intervals are more suited to the am's though with their short bursts of activity. In the pro's you need to think about waiting on punches and controlling the pace. In the pro's you need a lot of sustained roadwork and 5-7 miles is standard.

20km is bull****. That's more like marathon training not boxing, as fights do not last that long! Some british fighter called paddy something did 12miles per dfay onmce thinking it would make him fitter when it slowed him down in a 45 minute bout with 36 minutes of activity.

i'm not showing off. i'm not telling everyone else to do it. i just enjoy running every now and again. makes me happy. enough?

makes me happy.

hurray for endorphins!

i'm not showing off. i'm not telling everyone else to do it. i just enjoy running every now and again. makes me happy. enough?

I wasn't trying to get at that or aiming the comments at you. I was just saying that in general, for boxing an hour long run or a 20k run is a waste of effort IMO.

if you enjoy roadwork you are very lucky. It took me a while to get use to it but now I can't do without it.