What specific benefits does the speed bag give you?

hand eye coordination for the most part.. and also muscle stamina

So basically what your saying is, if I train with the speed bag everyday I'd be more accurate with my punches?

So basically what your saying is, if I train with the speed bag everyday I'd be more accurate with my punches?

nottttttt necessarily... but to a degree yes... as you dont punch someone in the face the way you hit a speedbag..

for punch accuracy, i would use the double end bag.

the speed bag is just to increase your hand eye coordination, almost like an exercise... and also like i said before... muscle stamina in your arms.

My trainer stressed the importance of the speed bag so Im sure there is some pretty beneficial aspects of it. One thing I will say is it definitely conditions your arms basically trains them to battle fatigue. IMO.

My trainer stressed the importance of the speed bag so Im sure there is some pretty beneficial aspects of it. One thing I will say is it definitely conditions your arms basically trains them to battle fatigue. IMO.

I'm not fast and tricky on the speedball but it plays a huge part in my training. I have had huge results from it in other areas of my boxing. I use it for:

-muscle endurance
-helping to keep my hands up (the endurance and habitual sides of this)
-speed which has come from better endurance
-keeping punches straight and accurate (i do repetitive 1-2's on the bag these days and focus on my technique)

it's the best thing to practice the left hook, like freddy roach says the ball is more like hitting someone's chin than the heavybag or punch mitts

Timing, hand eye co-ordination and conditioning for shoulders in particular. People don;t realise but such conditioning helsp you sustain speed. You will only realise when you have a long lay-off due to injury and comeback to throw one fast jab and you're out! That is when you realise how much this exercise, floor-to-ceiling ball and hand weights do actaully help your sustained speed. I guess that is what people mean when they say such exercises makes one faster.

I personally feel the speed ball borders on useless. In my opinion, its only legitimate use is showing off. There are better ways to fatigue your shoulder and build endurance. There are better ways to build boxing specific coordination. I think it is a waste of time. Time much better spent on a double ended bag.

I personally feel the speed ball borders on useless. In my opinion, its only legitimate use is showing off. There are better ways to fatigue your shoulder and build endurance. There are better ways to build boxing specific coordination. I think it is a waste of time. Time much better spent on a double ended bag.

yep i agree

I personally feel the speed ball borders on useless. In my opinion, its only legitimate use is showing off. There are better ways to fatigue your shoulder and build endurance. There are better ways to build boxing specific coordination. I think it is a waste of time. Time much better spent on a double ended bag.

I'm slowly starting to realise why you can't box. Thank you for your clarifications.

I personally feel the speed ball borders on useless. In my opinion, its only legitimate use is showing off. There are better ways to fatigue your shoulder and build endurance. There are better ways to build boxing specific coordination. I think it is a waste of time. Time much better spent on a double ended bag.http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/282/kostya-tszyu21t.jpg

yep i agree

What a pair of knobheads.



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What a pair of knobheads.



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Thank you for proving my point. Its good for showing off.

What are you suppose to gain from it? Timing? Nope. The only thing you learn to time is a bouncing bag... Speed? Nope... Endurance? Maybe... but there are better ways. Coordination? Not at all.

All you learn to do is hit the speed bag. It doesn't contribute anything useful towards your boxing. However, some people enjoy hitting the speed bag, and if it makes your time in the gym more enjoyable, or gives you something to look forward to at the end of a workout then it has done its job. Just don't expect it to do anything besides be a cute little gimmick.

i don't know about anyone else, but the speed bag helps me with my depth perception. I think that's what it's supposed to do but it helps me.

I use it to work on my left hook. Some people at my gym use it to practice their overhand rights and jabs. But, a double end bag is better for that. It also builds endurance in the shoulders and timing.

My trainer stressed the importance of the speed bag so Im sure there is some pretty beneficial aspects of it. One thing I will say is it definitely conditions your arms basically trains them to battle fatigue. IMO.

its really only good for hand-eye coordination, speed, muscle endurance

my trainer only lets me do it on my own at the end of the workout. he stresses that is BY FAR the LEAST important bag as it does not simulate punching at all. he says it is a relic from the pass and you could successfully train without it. i make sure to get in at least 3 rounds on it a day anyway though. if its good enough for b-hop and oscar,i can at least get proficient on it- thats my outlook!

the floor to ceiling ball (or double end bag same thing) is waaaay better for timing accuracy and co-ordination

speed balls dont help with anything, there are better ways to keep your hands up and develop your shoulders

Appreciate all the input, thanks fellas.

Thank you for proving my point. Its good for showing off.

What are you suppose to gain from it? Timing? Nope. The only thing you learn to time is a bouncing bag... Speed? Nope... Endurance? Maybe... but there are better ways. Coordination? Not at all.

All you learn to do is hit the speed bag. It doesn't contribute anything useful towards your boxing. However, some people enjoy hitting the speed bag, and if it makes your time in the gym more enjoyable, or gives you something to look forward to at the end of a workout then it has done its job. Just don't expect it to do anything besides be a cute little gimmick.As usual, you talk ****. Maybe you;re talking about some kinda bum training when people do it fast for a few mins. Have you ever actually don eit for the duration you are meant to? That wopuld be 10-20 minutes. I can tell from your flabby shoulders that you have not. Also, you can't be educating anyone about speed or endurance after posting them vids. If you went any slower you'd come to a standstill.

Appreciate all the input, thanks fellas.

Rather than take anecdotal advice mixed with proper advice, check out the Brian Todd book and make up your own mind. Most of the top fighters do alot of it and not for no reason. You only get the benefits when you do it for a long time like them guys.

As usual, you talk ****. Maybe you;re talking about some kinda bum training when people do it fast for a few mins. Have you ever actually don eit for the duration you are meant to? That wopuld be 10-20 minutes. I can tell from your flabby shoulders that you have not. Also, you can't be educating anyone about speed or endurance after posting them vids. If you went any slower you'd come to a standstill.



Rather than take anecdotal advice mixed with proper advice, check out the Brian Todd book and make up your own mind. Most of the top fighters do alot of it and not for no reason. You only get the benefits when you do it for a long time like them guys.

Now is that before or after the 1000 knuckle push-ups?

I'm glad I put that bum on my ignore list. Finally, some relief from all the bull**** the ass bleeder is spewing right now!!!! :)

yep i agree

I personally feel the speed ball borders on useless. In my opinion, its only legitimate use is showing off. There are better ways to fatigue your shoulder and build endurance. There are better ways to build boxing specific coordination. I think it is a waste of time. Time much better spent on a double ended bag.

Lol....yea that just solidified that neither one of you know what ur talking about as far as boxing. If you actually knew how to use the speed bag you would know that it is one of the most important tools of a boxer besides the heavy bag.

I'm slowly starting to realise why you can't box. Thank you for your clarifications.
Spot on. His video of him getting beat up was a corker
i don't know about anyone else, but the speed bag helps me with my depth perception. I think that's what it's supposed to do but it helps me.
It does indeed.
the floor to ceiling ball (or double end bag same thing) is waaaay better for timing accuracy and co-ordination

speed balls dont help with anything, there are better ways to keep your hands up and develop your shoulders
No there isn't!
Now is that before or after the 1000 knuckle push-ups?
Whichever way is hardest for you

It's mostly for cardio and muscular endurance. There are some other things for which you can use it though.

eye-coordination, helps you find and keep your rhythm

it seemed to help me with depth perception, timing, endurance and speed (a little). The best thing about the speedbag is its alot of fun. I used to do 10 rounds on it every day for that reason.

Lol, in my opinion your all argueing about a gym tool and how many skills you can learn from it, in heins sight it only plays a little part in training. theres alot of other equipment for training specific skills, the speed ball is just one of them. i wouldnt rely on it just use it on occasions
my oppionion

What's a "double ended bag"?

What's a "double ended bag"?

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As for the thread. Speed bag work is good but it's really only a suplement to your training and shouldn't be taking too much time out of your training schedule as there are much more important things. Personally i do about 6 rounds of speed bag a week, basically 2 rounds 3 days a week and it's just fine for me. More would be useless.

Like others already said the speed bag will help with: Rhythm, Hand-Eye Coordination and muscle endurance.

Personally i find the double end bag more useful and it works 2 of the thing the speed bag does(Rhythm and Hand-Eye Coordination) in a way that is much more needed for a boxer, as you are throwing "real" punches while working the double end bag.

the 10 rounds on the speedbag was a "cool down" for me. It was the last thing I did b4 abs, i still did my typical 5 rounds on everything else except 4 skipping (20 mins), weave rope (2-3) and uppercut bag (0-3).

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Thanks :-) I used to do this with a tennisball. I think the bigger bag would be a bit easier to hit. Is the tennisball method popular too?

I personally feel the speed ball borders on useless. In my opinion, its only legitimate use is showing off. There are better ways to fatigue your shoulder and build endurance. There are better ways to build boxing specific coordination. I think it is a waste of time. Time much better spent on a double ended bag.

Mmmm, yes, there is quite a large school that thinks it is an utterly pointless exercise and time spent on it could be spent on more sport specific exercises. I sit on the fence to be honest though I still actually train with it. I think it can be beneficial, especially for arm fatigue, basic hand-eye coordination etc, but I also think there are better exercises for actual boxing training specifics.

As I wrote above, it is good for hand-eye coordination but the double-end is better, just as the heavy bag is better for punch endurance, provided you use it that way, in my opinion. While it's great for endurance, when you're in the ring and fighting a lot of the time, your most basic muscle memory comes into play, especially when you're very tired and endurance training on a heavy bag is much closer to what you'll experience during a fight than endurance training with a speed bag.

There are so many different ways though, and everyone has their own methods. What works for you is the best, as long as it actually works and you're doing it right, because while it's all fine and dandy to say 'What works best for you is best' there are some methods that simply don't work well.....like punching bubbles. :lol1: