Dont want to bring racism into this thread, but out of bush and kerry who is the favorite among Minorities? Does anyone know? I havent heard of Kerry speak on one thing relating to race and Bush has worked to help the less fortunate of various ethnicities and just curious????


If I was a minority, I would be voting Bush....Don King said it best:

"I'm concerned about my community," King continued, "The left-out community, down-trodden, underprivileged and denied. Bush says he wants one America included, that's the first thing he's got to do, to bring America together. Black and White alike, a single America. These are his words that got me on his bandwagon, diversity. Then he came up with education. It was punishable by death for a person to teach a Black person how to read and write. So Rod Page and Education... no child left behind. Many people say there's a lot of glitches in the program but at least it's a program. So why should we argue about the glitches ? Why don't we work towards fixing them and making it work, because at least we've got a President who says he will do it."



Atleast Bush took a step forward and created a program rather then promising and not doing....I voted early although I am kind of regretting and split onto who I should have voted for.....


King was then asked if he would support Hillary Clinton if she ran in 2008 and responded, "Yeah, listen, I'm the one that said years ago that I think she could be the first woman President of the United States, but right now we've got to get there, and when you're a Republicrat, you're not trenched in, you can go wherever you need to be for the betterment of your people, upward mobility and elevation, and I'm looking at homes for the aging, affordable medicine for the aging."



Hilary Clinton wouldnt be a bad president, she would get my vote....


The idea of Al Sharpton actually running was tremendous and GREAT that he tried, but aside from him being black, who actually thinks he would have done a great job? I dont.

Traditionally minorites suport democrats. IMo its because the Democrats promise them stuff, but in reality the Democrats want people dependant on their social programs so the people that depend on those programs will need to keep voting Democrats into power to survive. IMO the Democratic party has been taking advatage of minorities for years.

I think a lot more blacks will vote for Bush this year because of the gay marriage issue. I heard that Bush has increased his support from blacks by 100% this year.

Traditionally minorites suport democrats. IMo its because the Democrats promise them stuff, but in reality the Democrats want people dependant on their social programs so the people that depend on those programs will need to keep voting Democrats into power to survive. IMO the Democratic party has been taking advatage of minorities for years.

I think a lot more blacks will vote for Bush this year because of the gay marriage issue. I heard that Bush has increased his support from blacks by 100% this year.

Very true, Bush stands by the minorities and I like that a lot, more so than any other president.....


I dont understand why the poverty stricken individuals vote for the republican party, although I see good reason why w/ some of his plans...


I just wish Kerry had other plans instead of canadian pharmaceuticals and a better way to get us out of iraq, one thing I am not certain on is how he will do this...Bush will pull us out when things are completely stable Although everyone wants us out now, they all wanted us to go earlier and it was rushed. We have heard Bush's plan, we have heard Kerry speak about a plan but has yet to reveal it which makes me question....I dont want us going out of iraq and leaving it a mess, that only tarnishes out image.

We need a solid War departure plan
Good plan on healthcare and pharmaceuticals-Which neither really have
A good way to give a shot of energy into our economy

These questions have never really been answered in full context though..Which really irritates me, because these are the things that matter most to majority of americans.

I dont think the poverty stricken vote for Republicans. I think they vote Democrat because if the social program Democrats support and introduce. Lots of the poor need things like welfare and food stamps, these are Democrat backed ideas. Republicans are more about self reliance. They think you should take care of your self and not depend as much on the government. Its kind of hypocritical IMO that Republicans want you to be slef reliant, while they like to tell you what you can and cannot do. Like Gay marriage, abortion, and drugs, like weed. If they were really about keeping the government out of our lives they wouldnt be prssing their religeous beliefs on us all. But, they right wing religeous fanatics are a major part of thier base, so the need to pander to them.

I'm a Minority living like a Minority (not like King) and I support Kerry as opposed to Bush.

i am a minority who has no clue what a minority is supposed to live like. is a minority supposed to live a certain way or is that what the "man" wants you to think. my parents got tired of living in poverty if thats what you mean. so they actually got thier ass out of it. the government had nothing to do with it. they didn't use the hand outs that most people would have and do. that **** would have only held them back. my pops busted his ass working 4 jobs at a time sometimes. sent my moms to school. now he's retired at 55. my family is sickened by how people really think the welfare system is such a great thing. it is abused and should be severely reformed. people need to quit living off of the gov't and get out there and make a better life for themselves. btw, my pops did this with 4 kids.

i am a minority who has no clue what a minority is supposed to live like. is a minority supposed to live a certain way or is that what the "man" wants you to think. my parents got tired of living in poverty if thats what you mean. so they actually got thier ass out of it. the government had nothing to do with it. they didn't use the hand outs that most people would have and do. that **** would have only held them back. my pops busted his ass working 4 jobs at a time sometimes. sent my moms to school. now he's retired at 55. my family is sickened by how people really think the welfare system is such a great thing. it is abused and should be severely reformed. people need to quit living off of the gov't and get out there and make a better life for themselves. btw, my pops did this with 4 kids.


Major props to your family that is what america is all about, if you want hand outs go to sweden they support it GREATLY!


Hispanic/African Americans are supposed to live below minorities such as Asians and other minorities, that is what the government says...

0-17k a year you are poverty
17-40k you are working class/lower class
40-60k you are low middle class
60-80k you are middle class
80-160k you are upper middle class
160-1 million you are upper class
1 million-upwards you are rich/super/natural rich

Atleast this is the guidelines most people are told.


I myself am poverty stricken, my parents are low middle class...We do ok.

i am a minority who has no clue what a minority is supposed to live like. is a minority supposed to live a certain way or is that what the "man" wants you to think. my parents got tired of living in poverty if thats what you mean. so they actually got thier ass out of it. the government had nothing to do with it. they didn't use the hand outs that most people would have and do. that **** would have only held them back. my pops busted his ass working 4 jobs at a time sometimes. sent my moms to school. now he's retired at 55. my family is sickened by how people really think the welfare system is such a great thing. it is abused and should be severely reformed. people need to quit living off of the gov't and get out there and make a better life for themselves. btw, my pops did this with 4 kids.

That's an awesome story...really glad when I hear something like that.

Just wondering, though, how do you think the welfare system should be reformed? Everyone talks about reform but it's difficult with a system that inherently invites corruption. Without it, what would some people do? Social programs like this can really help people in need. Do you propose cutback, more monitoring, or something else?

That's an awesome story...really glad when I hear something like that.

Just wondering, though, how do you think the welfare system should be reformed? Everyone talks about reform but it's difficult with a system that inherently invites corruption. Without it, what would some people do? Social programs like this can really help people in need. Do you propose cutback, more monitoring, or something else?

I personally believe people should work. My mom raised my bro and I all by herself and always had a job. She never sat on her ass all day collecting checks just because she could.

I personally believe people should work. My mom raised my bro and I all by herself and always had a job. She never sat on her ass all day collecting checks just because she could.

I agree, however I worry about some of the kids who are left alone cause their parent or parents are always out working. However, there are two other issues that make this problem worse: high cost of living (skyrocketing housing prices, hangover from 70s-era inflation, etc.) and loss of community (due to suburban sprawl reinforced by real-estate conglomerates who make more of a buck off of fortress-style suburbs than true communities). If these problems were rectified than people could work less and even when they did work they could leave their kids in the care of a safe and active community.

I agree that work helps to build discipline and motivation. Especially if you don't like your job (helps motivate you to seek the skills to get a better one).

Here's some insight as to what the NAACP think about Bush.

some excerpts:

"Bush is the first president since the 1930s not to speak at the NAACP convention, though he did so as a candidate in 2000."

"The White House said Bush had a scheduling conflict, but Bush also has described his relationship with the NAACP leadership as "basically nonexistent."


http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/12/naacp.bush

Everybody should be able to work unless they are paraplegics (sp?)

I hate when people use the excuse, I hurt my back my legs hurt blah blah blah.

Their are plenty of jobs such as secretarial jobs that require you to sit in a chair...Which will eliminate the aching of the foot and the back...

Their are jobs out their nobody wants them and would rather sit back and *****....For example relating back to the "injury excuse unemployed" Their is always telemarketing then they shoot back "No I dont want to do that" type of excuse or "I cant read".


Another thing that makes me mad, is I see this guy always standing under a bridge with a sign "Help me, God Bless" and he stands their for hours. Instead of wasting your time holding a sign go out and get yourself a job w/ that time you are wasting....Then people will be like well they might have problems, big ****...Their are custodial/construction/telemarketing/mcdonalds jobs out their for those kind of people....

In fact while that dip**** is holding that sign for maybe a dollar day, I see now in my area Little Caesars are paying their employees to stand out on the street holding signs advertising their 5 dollar pizza.

Why cant he do that? He is doing it anyway.

I **** on the homeless unemployed their is employment out their, whether they want to do it or not they should...I have to and millions of others have to so why not them? What makes them so special and unfortunate?

FLAT OUT: Everybody has an EXCUSE for NOT getting employed, but NOONE has ONE EXCUSE for getting EMPLOYED!

Traditionally minorites suport democrats. IMo its because the Democrats promise them stuff, but in reality the Democrats want people dependant on their social programs so the people that depend on those programs will need to keep voting Democrats into power to survive. IMO the Democratic party has been taking advatage of minorities for years.

I think a lot more blacks will vote for Bush this year because of the gay marriage issue. I heard that Bush has increased his support from blacks by 100% this year.

You should call yourself two-face. It would fit much better than explosivo. ;) Seriously though. You probably take longer deciding what to wear in the morning than a women. :p

Don King supports Bush. That should be all the reason anybody needs to vote for Kerry.

That's an awesome story...really glad when I hear something like that.

Just wondering, though, how do you think the welfare system should be reformed? Everyone talks about reform but it's difficult with a system that inherently invites corruption. Without it, what would some people do? Social programs like this can really help people in need. Do you propose cutback, more monitoring, or something else?

this is a very good question you pose. i would like to state that i am not a mormon and never have been but they have a very good charity system. you pay it back in one form or another. the mormons can thier own foods, make thier own clothes ect. so they have these people that they are helping out actually give back for what they are getting. the gov't should do this too. i think that there should be a limit to how long you can keep receiving. i beleive the states already do this but i don't think the federal does. ya see, if you give someone something for nothing they really don't feel anybetter for themselves. if you make them work for what they get they have more pride. it should be paid back in some way. it makes you self worth much more appreciated. but to just get a freebie is rediculous. it needs to be what it origionally was. a program that helped you get back on your feet or to simply just get started. not a permanant lifestyle.

Everybody should be able to work unless they are paraplegics (sp?)

I hate when people use the excuse, I hurt my back my legs hurt blah blah blah.

Their are plenty of jobs such as secretarial jobs that require you to sit in a chair...Which will eliminate the aching of the foot and the back...

Their are jobs out their nobody wants them and would rather sit back and *****....For example relating back to the "injury excuse unemployed" Their is always telemarketing then they shoot back "No I dont want to do that" type of excuse or "I cant read".


Another thing that makes me mad, is I see this guy always standing under a bridge with a sign "Help me, God Bless" and he stands their for hours. Instead of wasting your time holding a sign go out and get yourself a job w/ that time you are wasting....Then people will be like well they might have problems, big ****...Their are custodial/construction/telemarketing/mcdonalds jobs out their for those kind of people....

In fact while that dip**** is holding that sign for maybe a dollar day, I see now in my area Little Caesars are paying their employees to stand out on the street holding signs advertising their 5 dollar pizza.

Why cant he do that? He is doing it anyway.

I **** on the homeless unemployed their is employment out their, whether they want to do it or not they should...I have to and millions of others have to so why not them? What makes them so special and unfortunate?

FLAT OUT: Everybody has an EXCUSE for NOT getting employed, but NOONE has ONE EXCUSE for getting EMPLOYED!


dude! alot of those people holding signs are making over 500,000

a year! it all depends on the demographics.

Very true, Bush stands by the minorities and I like that a lot, more so than any other president.....


I dont understand why the poverty stricken individuals vote for the republican party, although I see good reason why w/ some of his plans...


I just wish Kerry had other plans instead of canadian pharmaceuticals and a better way to get us out of iraq, one thing I am not certain on is how he will do this...Bush will pull us out when things are completely stable Although everyone wants us out now, they all wanted us to go earlier and it was rushed. We have heard Bush's plan, we have heard Kerry speak about a plan but has yet to reveal it which makes me question....I dont want us going out of iraq and leaving it a mess, that only tarnishes out image.

We need a solid War departure plan
Good plan on healthcare and pharmaceuticals-Which neither really have
A good way to give a shot of energy into our economy

These questions have never really been answered in full context though..Which really irritates me, because these are the things that matter most to majority of americans.
Bush stands with minorities? How so?

Bush has no knowledge of history (if he did, he'd know that going into Iraq on their turf would not be easy. Vietnam taught us this about your enemy. That's their homeland. They can fight for eternity). Of course, if G.W. would've spent his years EARNING his education and his way through school he'd know this. Instead, he chose to fart away his time messing with booze and doing rails of cocaine.

he has a couple alcoholic and cocaine addicted daughters. He can't control his own house. But he's the sheriff of the world?

The only way Bush is like a minority is that he fits the stereotype: He's lazy and unprepared (if he had like Richard Clarke, he would've been prepared for 9/11 and more than 11,000 trooops would've been dispensed to Iraq with the proper equipment to do the job right); he got by on handouts his whole life (see his educational and military background, as well as his failed businesses that were bailed out by Arab oil $$$).

He's an affirmative action president. Thanks to his name, his connections and his money, he got by and fleeced idiot Americans. He didn't earn ****.

Don King supports Bush. That should be all the reason anybody needs to vote for Kerry.
Here here!

For spinksjinx to use don king as an example as a typical black man shows he doesn't know many black people.

i am a minority who has no clue what a minority is supposed to live like. is a minority supposed to live a certain way or is that what the "man" wants you to think. my parents got tired of living in poverty if thats what you mean. so they actually got thier ass out of it. the government had nothing to do with it. they didn't use the hand outs that most people would have and do. that **** would have only held them back. my pops busted his ass working 4 jobs at a time sometimes. sent my moms to school. now he's retired at 55. my family is sickened by how people really think the welfare system is such a great thing. it is abused and should be severely reformed. people need to quit living off of the gov't and get out there and make a better life for themselves. btw, my pops did this with 4 kids.
I think the word mexicans use for you is "malinche"

Tell your lazy daddy to get off his keister and come mow my lawn. Shiftless focker!

I think the word mexicans use for you is "malinche"

Tell your lazy daddy to get off his keister and come mow my lawn. Shiftless focker!

actually my father is mexican and i do speak spanish. there is no such word as malinche.

Guys, Has Don King been investigated by the FBI while Bush has been in office?

this is a very good question you pose. i would like to state that i am not a mormon and never have been but they have a very good charity system. you pay it back in one form or another. the mormons can thier own foods, make thier own clothes ect. so they have these people that they are helping out actually give back for what they are getting. the gov't should do this too. i think that there should be a limit to how long you can keep receiving. i beleive the states already do this but i don't think the federal does. ya see, if you give someone something for nothing they really don't feel anybetter for themselves. if you make them work for what they get they have more pride. it should be paid back in some way. it makes you self worth much more appreciated. but to just get a freebie is rediculous. it needs to be what it origionally was. a program that helped you get back on your feet or to simply just get started. not a permanant lifestyle.

I agree that a reciprocal system is ideal. The problem is taking the qualities that make great communities great, such as the give and take you refer to, and working them into a nationwide program such as social assistance. The current system obviously does not come even close to this ideal, though. The workfare programs provided by state governments (and provincial ones where I come from) do not seem to work at all well.

An issue related to this is the problem of cost of living. Back when these programs were first launched price relative to earnings were much much lower. So even with one job, no matter how bad, you could eke out a passable existence. These days of course no one minimum wage Mcjob is going to pay the bills. Comparatively, then, living off the government appears much more enticing than holding down three or four terrible, low-paying jobs just to barely get by. Cost of living has gone up due to inflation in just about every area of consumer goods and housing. Even though inflation is non-existent now does not mean that it still does not affect us. Minimum wage did not keep place with inflation in the 70s and 80s and now we are paying the price.

actually my father is mexican and i do speak spanish. there is no such word as malinche.
Um. You're not Mexican.

if you don't know malinche.

how about a fresa? And I dont mean the literal meaning of the word

i am a minority who has no clue what a minority is supposed to live like. is a minority supposed to live a certain way or is that what the "man" wants you to think. my parents got tired of living in poverty if thats what you mean. so they actually got thier ass out of it. the government had nothing to do with it. they didn't use the hand outs that most people would have and do. that **** would have only held them back. my pops busted his ass working 4 jobs at a time sometimes. sent my moms to school. now he's retired at 55. my family is sickened by how people really think the welfare system is such a great thing. it is abused and should be severely reformed. people need to quit living off of the gov't and get out there and make a better life for themselves. btw, my pops did this with 4 kids.
Thats what its all about man. Your parents are top class. It shows in their character. They went out and achieved on their own. And retiring at 55! thats freakin awesome. Hard work pays off.