Not sure if these are set in stone or not, but I thought it was worth mentioning:

March 12 SIte: TBA
Felix Trinidad vs TBA

February 19 SIte: TBA
Bernard Hopkins vs TBA


December 4
HBO
Site: TBA
Jermain Taylor vs William Joppy (160)

*I see this says hbo, but a few other schedules state showtime.* (Id stay with hbo)


January 22 SIte: TBA
Floyd Mayeweather vs TBA


January 14 site: Accra,Ghana
Ike Quartey (34-2-1) vs. T.B.A.


RIDDICK BOWE TO FIGHT IN LOUISVILLE ON NOV. 27TH November 1, 2004

Former heavyweight boxing champion Riddick Bowe will fight live in Louisville, KY at Louisville Gardens.

The fight will be named "The Redemption". Part of the proceeds from the fight will go to a fund raiser for former heavyweight champ, Greg Paige.

A press conference scheduled for Friday, November 5th. For more information, and updates for the Riddick Bowe fight, check straightuppromotions.com periodically.


*I will definatly be in attendance at the Bowe fight, so if anyone else is going give me the heads up. I've talked to Chris Webb a few times about somethings and might be able to hook up some vip passes or something)

Not sure if these are set in stone or not, but I thought it was worth mentioning:

March 12 SIte: TBA
Felix Trinidad vs TBA

February 19 SIte: TBA
Bernard Hopkins vs TBA


December 4
HBO
Site: TBA
Jermain Taylor vs William Joppy (160)

*I see this says hbo, but a few other schedules state showtime.* (Id stay with hbo)


January 22 SIte: TBA
Floyd Mayeweather vs TBA


January 14 site: Accra,Ghana
Ike Quartey (34-2-1) vs. T.B.A.


RIDDICK BOWE TO FIGHT IN LOUISVILLE ON NOV. 27TH November 1, 2004

Former heavyweight boxing champion Riddick Bowe will fight live in Louisville, KY at Louisville Gardens.

The fight will be named "The Redemption". Part of the proceeds from the fight will go to a fund raiser for former heavyweight champ, Greg Paige.

A press conference scheduled for Friday, November 5th. For more information, and updates for the Riddick Bowe fight, check straightuppromotions.com periodically.


*I will definatly be in attendance at the Bowe fight, so if anyone else is going give me the heads up. I've talked to Chris Webb a few times about somethings and might be able to hook up some vip passes or something)

Dec 4 Tripleheader is already posted on Showtime's website.
It won't be Taylor...

Two-Time WBC Lightweight Champion
Jose Luis Castillo
vs.
Former WBA Super Featherweight Champion/ WBA, IBF & WBO No. 3/WBC No. 4 130-Pound Contender
Joel Casamayor

Jeff Lacy vs. Omar Sheika

Jeremy Williams vs. Samuel Peter

Sat, December 4 at 9:00 PM ET/PT
from Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino, Las Vegas, NV


http://www.sho.com/site/boxing/calendar.do

Dec 4 Tripleheader is already posted on Showtime's website.
It won't be Taylor...

Two-Time WBC Lightweight Champion
Jose Luis Castillo
vs.
Former WBA Super Featherweight Champion/ WBA, IBF & WBO No. 3/WBC No. 4 130-Pound Contender
Joel Casamayor

Jeff Lacy vs. Omar Sheika

Jeremy Williams vs. Samuel Peter

Sat, December 4 at 9:00 PM ET/PT
from Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino, Las Vegas, NV


http://www.sho.com/site/boxing/calendar.do

Yeah that is what I figured, but you never know...Joppy and Taylor are both hbo fighters (I know taylor is) but Joppy isnt exclusive but I dont recall him fighting on showtime in the past few years....

Just curious, What do you think of Klitschko vs Williams buyrate? Williams vs Tyson only did 140k buys do you think this could be worst??? I think so and expect under 100k personally and consider it a big flop...140 thousand of those buys in july was for tyson not for williams..I cant see this doing any better personally especially since it doesnt hold a high marquee name. Just because williams beat tyson doesnt mean he gets his drawing power.....

I think it is Absurd and HBO will find that out, The undercard sucks (well hell every undercard for the few past years have sucked)

This will do worse than Williams vs. Tyson. By a lot. Maybe less than 100K

Showtime doesn't "have" fighters anymore,unless there's some old contracts still waiting to be honored, so anyone not under contract with HBO could be signed for a televised fight - but just one fight. This is a good idea. Otherwise we would have been watching Calzaghe and Hatton tuneups lately.

It seems like Corrales and Casamayor are Showtime fighters, but only because they have a good working relationship and keep televising them.

The only drawback is that Showtime gets a good prospect on ShoBox and HBO signs them away when they're a star - see Cintron, Diaz, Juarez, and it looks like Malignaggi

This will do worse than Williams vs. Tyson. By a lot. Maybe less than 100K

Showtime doesn't "have" fighters anymore,unless there's some old contracts still waiting to be honored, so anyone not under contract with HBO could be signed for a televised fight - but just one fight. This is a good idea. Otherwise we would have been watching Calzaghe and Hatton tuneups lately.

It seems like Corrales and Casamayor are Showtime fighters, but only because they have a good working relationship and keep televising them.

The only drawback is that Showtime gets a good prospect on ShoBox and HBO signs them away when they're a star - see Cintron, Diaz, Juarez, and it looks like Malignaggi

Showtime needs to get a good investor, corrales/freitas/tszyu (who is on his way out in my mind) and Tyson are showtime exclusives and that is holding them all back.....

Showtime needs to pick up corrales/freitas as well as Spinks (im surprised hbo hasnt swooped down like a vulture and signed freitas and spinks)

HBO lets showtime showcase green fighters and comes in and offers them low money contracts once proven on showtime and showtime needs to stop this and dig deeper into their pockets........


I cant wait until hbo gets the bad taste in their mouth from airing that atrocious ppv card and learn from their mistakes, I will give them the benefit of the doubt and say that it only pulls 60-80k (I say 75k) buyers...But I dont doubt 50k...

At the most they will pull in 5 million from ppv and I dont see that being a success.....

I think that HBO knows that Vitali and Williams are not going to bring in alot of money that's why they are not spending much on the promotion of the fight.

An investment in Vitali, with brother Wlad jumping to Showtime and Williams having fought his only pay cable fight on Showtime too? Good idea...

An investment in Vitali, with brother Wlad jumping to Showtime and Williams having fought his only pay cable fight on Showtime too? Good idea...


No, Big mistake :)


Showtime most likely picked up wladimir cheap and he still puts asses into seats because of the "whats going to happen" scenario.

HBO made a decent deal off of Vitali, because of the Lewis matchup and they can pay him minimum cash and bank a good bit....For every 1 million Vitali makes HBO doubles or triples that......

Fair deal for both networks, but in the end I fear it will both come up and bite them on the ass...Sooner for HBO though, If Danny Williams pulls it out against Vitali HBO is in trouble, because they have no great heavyweight and w/ king leaving HBO it only gets darker....

HBO makes huge bank off of the smaller fighters though...

Vitali's a guy that - at least appears to be - one who would take a bit less money to go to a network that supports his brother. Especially if Wlad loses again and becomes an afterthought in the division, Showtime's loyalty might make the difference.

I see Showtime showing the next Byrd, Ruiz event anyway while King threatens HBO and "searches" for a Boxing network avenue.

Vitali's a guy that - at least appears to be - one who would take a bit less money to go to a network that supports his brother. Especially if Wlad loses again and becomes an afterthought in the division, Showtime's loyalty might make the difference.

I see Showtime showing the next Byrd, Ruiz event anyway while King threatens HBO and "searches" for a Boxing network avenue.


Yes! Totally, I agree with that...Vitali seems to fight for his legacy and family tradition/values...

Vitali and wladimir would both fight for 100,000 dollars if it granted them both title shots...I like this they are not money hungry and dont price themselves out, which is why both networks got a decent deal..


Both Klitschkos made huge bank in Germany in the ring and in Modeling...They do it for the love of the sport and the dream of being 2 champions at once and I like that, unlike most people who price themselves out...

Not sure if these are set in stone or not, but I thought it was worth mentioning:

March 12 SIte: TBA
Felix Trinidad vs TBA

February 19 SIte: TBA
Bernard Hopkins vs TBA


December 4
HBO
Site: TBA
Jermain Taylor vs William Joppy (160)

*I see this says hbo, but a few other schedules state showtime.* (Id stay with hbo)


January 22 SIte: TBA
Floyd Mayeweather vs TBA


January 14 site: Accra,Ghana
Ike Quartey (34-2-1) vs. T.B.A.



pretty nice sounden list
im not too sure bout quartey
havent seen him fight
plus hes coming out of retirement right?
whats his deal?
you guys think he'll be to old
or will he do fine

nice analysis guys, just as a footnote Danny did the same for fighting tyson 140 k only..minus tax, trianers fees etc etc etc probably walked off with around 50 grand, then again he isnt the champ, but thought it may be of interest to you.

I thought Ike was the **** in the mid-90's....but he fizzled out, thanks to inactivity.
He was only fighting once a year to a year & a half by the later part of the 90's.....& he suffered by doing so.

I can't imagine after almost 5 years out, he'll be able to make a real impact.

Ike is one fighter who DID NOT need to take a rest !

I thought Ike was the **** in the mid-90's....but he fizzled out, thanks to inactivity.
He was only fighting once a year to a year & a half by the later part of the 90's.....& he suffered by doing so.

I can't imagine after almost 5 years out, he'll be able to make a real impact.

Ike is one fighter who DID NOT need to take a rest !

The Layoff seems to be doing fighters well, Im unsure but Ike was a beast throughout his whole career, the DLH fight seemed to take a bit out of the tank. Although if he comes back w/ the desire and the fire inside I think he could mop the floor with some people and would be anxious to see a quartey vs trinidad fight, Although I see a height disadvantage possibly not playing to ike's favor.


I think though all we can do is not jump to conclusions and wait to see how he turns out.

I thought Ike was the **** in the mid-90's....but he fizzled out, thanks to inactivity.
He was only fighting once a year to a year & a half by the later part of the 90's.....& he suffered by doing so.

I can't imagine after almost 5 years out, he'll be able to make a real impact.

Ike is one fighter who DID NOT need to take a rest !

you usually make good points and see guys pretty objectly
so ima trust ya on this one
so you think hes just comin back for some pay days
and doesnt really have much of a chance?

you usually make good points and see guys pretty objectly
so ima trust ya on this one
so you think hes just comin back for some pay days
and doesnt really have much of a chance?

If you dont mind me making a comment, Dont believe when a fighter says he is coming back for the fans, sure in a way he is but he is coming for a fans money...


I give Ike a pretty good chance but that can be questioned and the best thing to do is wait and find out.

If you dont mind me making a comment, Dont believe when a fighter says he is coming back for the fans, sure in a way he is but he is coming for a fans money...


I give Ike a pretty good chance but that can be questioned and the best thing to do is wait and find out.

anh i dont always believe them that its for the fans
but i mean you can sometimes see when there is an actual desire to do good in their comeback fight
well atleast i think i see that desire sometimes
im confused now :confused:

you usually make good points and see guys pretty objectly
so ima trust ya on this one
so you think hes just comin back for some pay days
and doesnt really have much of a chance?


He's definitely coming back for the $$$.
I think he became a disinterested fighter very quickly.
If you sawhis fight with Vince Phillips..you saw a fighter at the height of his game, looking to make a statement. Ike made a serious statement that night, & from that point on, he broke the 500K per bout mark. I guess that goes pretty far in Ghana, 'cause Ike got SOFT after that.
Now, maybe he realizes that $$$ only goes so far for so long.


If he's truly hungry enough.....maybe he can make some noise.
At his best, he walked you down with what I think is the heaviest jab I've ever seen a guy throw....& he followed it up with some real TWO-FISTED power.

By the late 90's....he wasn't aggressive anymore....threw too many jabs...& an ocacsional slappish right hand behind it.


Believe me, I'll pay attention to his comeback, in hopes of seeing a glimpse of the guy I was damn psyched about years a go.

He's definitely coming back for the $$$.
I think he became a disinterested fighter very quickly.
If you sawhis fight with Vince Phillips..you saw a fighter at the height of his game, looking to make a statement. Ike made a serious statement that night, & from that point on, he broke the 500K per bout mark. I guess that goes pretty far in Ghana, 'cause Ike got SOFT after that.
Now, maybe he realizes that $$$ only goes so far for so long.


If he's truly hungry enough.....maybe he can make some noise.
At his best, he walked you down with what I think is the heaviest jab I've ever seen a guy throw....& he followed it up with some real TWO-FISTED power.

By the late 90's....he wasn't aggressive anymore....threw too many jabs...& an ocacsional slappish right hand behind it.


Believe me, I'll pay attention to his comeback, in hopes of seeing a glimpse of the guy I was damn psyched about years a go.

guess ill pay attention too
sounds great tho
walks ya down with a telephone pole jab
then smacks in a heavy right
sounds bit like sturm
maybe they can get afight 2gether