View Full Version : Danny Williams Obtains Klitschko Secrets
Rick Reeno 11-02-2004, 02:01 AM The trainer of Danny Williams, Jim McDonnell, has told the UK's Sun Online that he has obtained the secrets to beat Vitali Klitschko. The camp of Williams is pulling out all the stops in order to defeat Vitali Klitschko on December 11th and bring the WBC heavyweight title back to England.
Apparently there is a book which was produced by the Klitschko brothers which gives very detailed information regarding their training methods and mental attuitude, the book is called "The Klitschkos". McDonnell went as far as to translate the entire book from German to English and stated that the book "makes a good read".
McDonnell told Williams that Vitali wrote in the book that he suffers from bad training days and the information seems to have boosted the confidence level of Williams, who suffered from the same mental attitude in several of his camps.
“Klitschko’s book has also told me that his head is not always right when he admits suffering from down days when he prepares. I told Danny ‘Look, you’re not the only one. Klitschko suffers and every fighter in the world probably suffers the same way’. said McDonnell [details (http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=184)]
Miniwheat42 11-02-2004, 03:53 AM Hey Rick - you must have one hell of a hardon for the Klitschko brothers. It is unbelievable the level you will stoop to. You will post anything regardless of whether or not it has any actual merit or truth to it. It is quite obvious you are only after one thing - to try and discredit the Klitschko brothers any way you can. Lets get something straight here. Like it or not, Vitali Klitschko is the "real" heavyweight champion. He has proven himself time & again. Deal with it and move on with your life. I am sick and tired of all this Klitschko bashing. DROP IT ALREADY!!!!!
spinksjinx 11-02-2004, 08:12 AM Hey Rick - you must have one hell of a hardon for the Klitschko brothers. It is unbelievable the level you will stoop to. You will post anything regardless of whether or not it has any actual merit or truth to it. It is quite obvious you are only after one thing - to try and discredit the Klitschko brothers any way you can. Lets get something straight here. Like it or not, Vitali Klitschko is the "real" heavyweight champion. He has proven himself time & again. Deal with it and move on with your life. I am sick and tired of all this Klitschko bashing. DROP IT ALREADY!!!!!
Step back and breath man, Rick is a reporter he gives the good with the bad. That is his job, if you dont like it dont read the articles....
You know you just posted in the Opinion central section? Since when did opinions matter though?
Calm down, Besides we all know the klitschkos have stamina problems *shrugs*
neils7147933 11-02-2004, 08:16 AM Hey Rick - you must have one hell of a hardon for the Klitschko brothers. It is unbelievable the level you will stoop to. You will post anything regardless of whether or not it has any actual merit or truth to it. It is quite obvious you are only after one thing - to try and discredit the Klitschko brothers any way you can. Lets get something straight here. Like it or not, Vitali Klitschko is the "real" heavyweight champion. He has proven himself time & again. Deal with it and move on with your life. I am sick and tired of all this Klitschko bashing. DROP IT ALREADY!!!!!
I nominate this for worst post of the new boards. Vitali's top win is over Larry Donald. You can talk about skills all you want, but Vitali has not been given the opportunity to "prove it time and time again." To say so means you don't know what you're talking about. He won a VACANT title bout against a guy planning on retirement before he took a short-notice fight against Wlad and - whoops- whipped his ass so he fought once more so he could pocket 900 large against Vitali. Vitali's last 2 fights were against fat, out of shape men who didn't deserve title shots. His biggest wins of his career are Larry Donald and Herbie Hide.
If he isn't beatable, he hasn't proved it yet. Even his biggest fans on these boards admit he hasn't had a chance to separate himself from the pack.
Respect the administrator of the site.
Shame on you.
This post is absolutely wretched.
Hey Rick - you must have one hell of a hardon for the Klitschko brothers. It is unbelievable the level you will stoop to. You will post anything regardless of whether or not it has any actual merit or truth to it. It is quite obvious you are only after one thing - to try and discredit the Klitschko brothers any way you can. Lets get something straight here. Like it or not, Vitali Klitschko is the "real" heavyweight champion. He has proven himself time & again. Deal with it and move on with your life. I am sick and tired of all this Klitschko bashing. DROP IT ALREADY!!!!!
ridiculous post, this was all over the newpapers this morning stupid person.
and if you wanna get really pissed off, Vitali also in the book, (written by himself and his team I hasten to add) admits to taking steroids in the amatuers, so go contact Vitali and tell him he is ruining your fantasy of his own legacy and skills.
Not only do you overrate him but he has also been partial to cheating on the past. :eek: (In fact his brother Vlad went to the olympics in 96 because of this, he was banned after he took "something dodgy" to recover from an ankle injury, FACT.
So maybe my friend one should take a step back and think whether your whiter than white opinion of Vitali is justified and secondly whether you should be attacking others over it).
stick that in your pipe and smoke it mate.
and finally i very much doubt Rick could give a monkeys right testicle what you think. I know I wouldnt if I were him, Im only responding cos your post is so unfounded and pathetic.
Rick Reeno 11-02-2004, 08:52 AM Hey Rick - you must have one hell of a hardon for the Klitschko brothers. It is unbelievable the level you will stoop to. You will post anything regardless of whether or not it has any actual merit or truth to it. It is quite obvious you are only after one thing - to try and discredit the Klitschko brothers any way you can. Lets get something straight here. Like it or not, Vitali Klitschko is the "real" heavyweight champion. He has proven himself time & again. Deal with it and move on with your life. I am sick and tired of all this Klitschko bashing. DROP IT ALREADY!!!!!
This website broke the story regarding the missing water bottle prior to the Wladimir-Brewster bout. This site also broke the story regarding the facts that Casinos would not take bets on Vitali-Sanders due to their being such a strong stink of a fix on the Brewster-Wladimir bout. I also wrote the article prior to the Sanders bout stating that the division needs Vitali to keep winning or else it will fall
I report the news that is out there, those were McDonnell's opinions, not mine. I have interviewed both Klitschkos on this site several times and have a very good relationship with their camp.
spinksjinx 11-02-2004, 09:12 AM ridiculous post, this was all over the newpapers this morning stupid person.
and if you wanna get really pissed off, Vitali also in the book, (written by himself and his team I hasten to add) admits to taking steroids in the amatuers, so go contact Vitali and tell him he is ruining your fantasy of his own legacy and skills.
Not only do you overrate him but he has also been partial to cheating on the past. :eek: (In fact his brother Vlad went to the olympics in 96 because of this, he was banned after he took "something dodgy" to recover from an ankle injury, FACT.
So maybe my friend one should take a step back and think whether your whiter than white opinion of Vitali is justified and secondly whether you should be attacking others over it).
stick that in your pipe and smoke it mate.
and finally i very much doubt Rick could give a monkeys right testicle what you think. I know I wouldnt if I were him, Im only responding cos your post is so unfounded and pathetic.
I have no doubt that vitali (along with a lot of other boxers) are still on the roids, It is easier to cover them up now as well.
UNDOUTEDLY MATE! sometimes though I think me and thee are two of very few pragmatists on here.
aparrently pacquio is now top five power puncher p4p of all time :eek: :eek: :eek:
muning 11-02-2004, 01:16 PM Some people just can't stand it that a white man is the champ. JPW, you are a racist and a bigot.
ChrististheAnswer 11-02-2004, 02:29 PM Hey Rick - you must have one hell of a hardon for the Klitschko brothers. It is unbelievable the level you will stoop to. You will post anything regardless of whether or not it has any actual merit or truth to it. It is quite obvious you are only after one thing - to try and discredit the Klitschko brothers any way you can. Lets get something straight here. Like it or not, Vitali Klitschko is the "real" heavyweight champion. He has proven himself time & again. Deal with it and move on with your life. I am sick and tired of all this Klitschko bashing. DROP IT ALREADY!!!!!
Rick doesn't discredit the Klits,they do a good job of it by themselves
Soundtraveler 11-02-2004, 02:30 PM Hey Rick - you must have one hell of a hardon for the Klitschko brothers. It is unbelievable the level you will stoop to. You will post anything regardless of whether or not it has any actual merit or truth to it. It is quite obvious you are only after one thing - to try and discredit the Klitschko brothers any way you can. Lets get something straight here. Like it or not, Vitali Klitschko is the "real" heavyweight champion. He has proven himself time & again. Deal with it and move on with your life. I am sick and tired of all this Klitschko bashing. DROP IT ALREADY!!!!!
:eek: :confused: You must have a hard on for robotic, boxers who will NEVER be considered one of the greats in ANY era, much less THIS one, which is abscent of even one truly great fighter in the division....
Soundtraveler 11-02-2004, 02:39 PM Some people just can't stand it that a white man is the champ. JPW, you are a racist and a bigot.
Wow, what an impressive first post, such a thought provoking and meaningful entry into this fine website.
I am sure my fellow posters here at BoxingScene.com look forward to more of your insightful, if not comprehensive understanding of life in general....
AKATheMack 11-02-2004, 02:47 PM Does anyone on here base anything on facts or just their own opinions? Hey ChristIs I see you bash Klitschkos continuously how did they discredit themselves by both of them beating the hell out of your boy Byrd? I also see the same people saying Klitschko doesnt deserve any respect because he hasnt beat anyone then say LL is great and it isnt his fault he fought in a weak division. The steroid Vitali took was legal it was for an injury he sustained while kickboxing. Dont get me wrong I dont think Vitali is great but he fights hard and thats a lot more than anyone can say for the WBA and WBO champs. Good article Rick I cant wait to see if Williams does really have the secret.
Neuraxis 11-02-2004, 03:30 PM I have no doubt that vitali (along with a lot of other boxers) are still on the roids, It is easier to cover them up now as well.
It doesn't look like he is still on the juice to me.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1607
Neuraxis 11-02-2004, 03:31 PM Does anyone on here base anything on facts or just their own opinions? Hey ChristIs I see you bash Klitschkos continuously how did they discredit themselves by both of them beating the hell out of your boy Byrd? I also see the same people saying Klitschko doesnt deserve any respect because he hasnt beat anyone then say LL is great and it isnt his fault he fought in a weak division. The steroid Vitali took was legal it was for an injury he sustained while kickboxing. Dont get me wrong I dont think Vitali is great but he fights hard and thats a lot more than anyone can say for the WBA and WBO champs. Good article Rick I cant wait to see if Williams does really have the secret.
I thought that the secret was the Vitali has a "stamina problem" because everything he does centers on 3 minutes. If that's the big secret, Williams is going to be in for a big surprise.
bigtex 11-02-2004, 03:40 PM whats the secert don't run into his right hand.
neils7147933 11-02-2004, 03:41 PM Wow, what an impressive first post, such a thought provoking and meaningful entry into this fine website.
I am sure my fellow posters here BoxingScene.com look forward to more of your insightful, if not comprehensive understanding of life in general....
my thoughts exactly. There was another kid named tommyjenkins who made a similar debut. Weirdos coming out of the wordwork...
ChrististheAnswer 11-02-2004, 05:20 PM Does anyone on here base anything on facts or just their own opinions? Hey ChristIs I see you bash Klitschkos continuously how did they discredit themselves by both of them beating the hell out of your boy Byrd? I also see the same people saying Klitschko doesnt deserve any respect because he hasnt beat anyone then say LL is great and it isnt his fault he fought in a weak division. The steroid Vitali took was legal it was for an injury he sustained while kickboxing. Dont get me wrong I dont think Vitali is great but he fights hard and thats a lot more than anyone can say for the WBA and WBO champs. Good article Rick I cant wait to see if Williams does really have the secret.
3 posts uh, sounds like someone is a leech. Start posting more and maybe I'll take you seriously.
spinksjinx 11-02-2004, 05:31 PM It doesn't look like he is still on the juice to me.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1607
Mind you their are various types of steroids for different type of training....Im not saying he is on them, although I wouldnt be surprised if he was....
neils7147933 11-02-2004, 10:43 PM Does anyone on here base anything on facts or just their own opinions? Hey ChristIs I see you bash Klitschkos continuously how did they discredit themselves by both of them beating the hell out of your boy Byrd? I also see the same people saying Klitschko doesnt deserve any respect because he hasnt beat anyone then say LL is great and it isnt his fault he fought in a weak division. The steroid Vitali took was legal it was for an injury he sustained while kickboxing. Dont get me wrong I dont think Vitali is great but he fights hard and thats a lot more than anyone can say for the WBA and WBO champs. Good article Rick I cant wait to see if Williams does really have the secret.
WBO Champ Lamon Brewster fights hard - he's just not skilled.
Ruiz fights hard when he's not napping on his opponent - I mean strategically using creative offense.
Lewis fought in a much better division - Vitali doesn't even have a Tua or McCall on his resume, let alone a Holyfield or Tyson
Some people just can't stand it that a white man is the champ. JPW, you are a racist and a bigot.
how dare you? Im ****ing white for starters so that kinda messes that idea up? So how am I racist? In what way am I bigoted please cos I report the facts. And whomever said that the roid Vitalia used is not reaidng the facts, he got banned fomr the olympics for it and his borther took his place. Please read before you respond. ;)
back up your statments and dont accuse me of being racist again you prick cos nothing is further from the truth.
muning 11-03-2004, 12:55 PM Whiter than white opinion? That's a racist comment. You are probably a brainwashed self hating white man and I bet you voted for Kerry. Vitali Klitschko is the champ. You are just going to have to accept it. Wlad was drugged!
abdiel2k3 11-03-2004, 01:07 PM lmao
at guy mcdonnel is too funny
he just needs to gimme my bigmac and be on his way
Vitali is gonna KO willaims
poor guy is gettin all pumped up for nothing
its funny how he says that klitchschko has problems just williams
only for some reason Vitali wont be able to over come them
yet williams will
Wladimir should jump in the ring after the fight and start pounden williams some more
then he would thought of as KK Krazee Klitschko
it worked for tyson!
:D
This whole thing is strange. If it takes a "book" to give Williams an edge, he's in trouble. The real "book" should be Vitali's fight tapes, not some words and thoughts on paper.
So, if I understand this correctly, when Williams is laying on his back with the ref approaching 8 and 9, Williams will be thinking, "But the book said ...."
Whiter than white opinion? That's a racist comment. You are probably a brainwashed self hating white man and I bet you voted for Kerry. Vitali Klitschko is the champ. You are just going to have to accept it. Wlad was drugged!
LISTEN IDIOT. Im no racist, race doesnt even come into this, Im firstly a boxing fan secondly a boxing journo who writes for the below site, as for voting for Kerry how can I do that Im not american.
So mate, why dont you just get back in your troll like cave and learn some manners.
let me know if you think you know your boxing more than me mate or perhaps you could have written something along the lines as below? Nah didnt think so , but if you then we can discuss sensibly and respectfully if you dont then just leave my posts alone and certainly dont accuse me of being racist you stupid little person.
http://www.britishboxing.net/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1097424617&archive=&start_from=&ucat=&PHPSESSID=aa5421498656c4e953d4ba96754b5dbc
This whole thing is strange. If it takes a "book" to give Williams an edge, he's in trouble. The real "book" should be Vitali's fight tapes, not some words and thoughts on paper.
So, if I understand this correctly, when Williams is laying on his back with the ref approaching 8 and 9, Williams will be thinking, "But the book said ...."
come on guys dont be so naive its part of the pyschological game. Lets put it this way whether you think they belive in this is up to you, but I tend to think its more mind games. ;)
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