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King James III 07-29-2008, 03:45 AM Its just funny to me how everybody on this forum supposely use 16,18, **** 20 ounce gloves. I train wit 14 and spar wit 16, 16 ounce gloves are detrimental for use on the heavy bag for your technique unless ur a 200 pound heavyweight. Its not the weight but how 16 ounce gloves are made that make them really hard to use on the heavy bag because you cant really make a fist like you can with 14 ounce gloves. Maybe its me but the people that claim they live and die by 16,18, and 20 pound gloves are posers and are trying to make themselves seem macho....or maybe its just me idk. somebody give me some insight on this issue
PunchDrunk 07-29-2008, 04:48 AM The whole sparring with 18oz gloves because it'll increase handspeed thing is way overrated. I know it works in video games, but in real life the effect is more in your head than anything else. The bigger gloves are made for better protection of both your hands, and your opponent/partner.
King James III 07-29-2008, 05:14 AM The whole sparring with 18oz gloves because it'll increase handspeed thing is way overrated. I know it works in video games, but in real life the effect is more in your head than anything else. The bigger gloves are made for better protection of both your hands, and your opponent/partner.
My point exactly.....and seriously who need that much protection?
PunchDrunk 07-29-2008, 05:23 AM My point exactly.....and seriously who need that much protection?
Well, that depends on weight class, and how much/hard you spar. Getting your face cut up or messing up your hands is not something you want to go looking for.
King James III 07-29-2008, 05:28 AM Well, that depends on weight class, and how much/hard you spar. Getting your face cut up or messing up your hands is not something you want to go looking for.
Yea thats true because som people overdue it sparring. I spar with 16's usually. tried 18's but it was riduculous maybe because im a welterweight?
Eshays! 07-29-2008, 05:38 AM totally agree with the whole 18-24oz glove ****. The glove make is way to big for most of the lighter weights hands & would just give bad punching habbits. I use everlast weighted gloves though, find them to be alright - their 12oz with the weights dont know what weight they total to but they absolulty kill in sprints
KostyaTszyu44 07-29-2008, 05:44 AM yeah i use 10 oz to spar as i spar with bigger guys, so its a bit fairer, but on the odd occasion i spar a guy my size i use 16's. and of course 10's in fights
yeah 18 and over is ****in ridiculous... :rofl: what about that idiot danny stash who said he sparred a guy with 26 oz gloves :rofl: wtf thats crazy **** lol how would that help you might as well spar with pillows on
TheTruthIs 07-29-2008, 05:39 PM 14oz for training, 16oz for sparring, 10oz for santioned. That is all.
dfwtx 07-29-2008, 08:20 PM yeah i use 10 oz to spar as i spar with bigger guys, so its a bit fairer, but on the odd occasion i spar a guy my size i use 16's. and of course 10's in fights
yeah 18 and over is ****in ridiculous... :rofl: what about that idiot danny stash who said he sparred a guy with 26 oz gloves :rofl: wtf thats crazy **** lol how would that help you might as well spar with pillows on
That's not called fair, that's called dangerous and I would have serious problems with a trainer letting his guys spar people so much larger than him that he feels they should use 10 oz gloves for anything but a fight, that's ridiculous.
14oz for training, 16oz for sparring, 10oz for santioned. That is all.
That's how I do it.
rj_ct 07-29-2008, 10:26 PM different gyms, different trainers, different methods. not a big deal.
Landon S 07-30-2008, 02:00 AM ...are you in a backyard sparring with 10oz gloves cuz thats the only place I can see that happening. As for 24oz gloves Ive never even seen monsters like that! Thats some rock 'em sock 'em **** right there. Heck I dont think Ive even seen anything over 16oz.
KostyaTszyu44 07-30-2008, 04:34 AM That's not called fair, that's called dangerous and I would have serious problems with a trainer letting his guys spar people so much larger than him that he feels they should use 10 oz gloves for anything but a fight, that's ridiculous.
That's how I do it.
dude i use the 10 oz they use 16 oz, i cant hurt them with my shots, they are too big so why would it be an issue? its fairer as it lets me get way more shots on them but they have the heavier punches. if i dont spar with the bigger guys i get no sparring, theres no one my weight and its pointless travelling to another gym more than once a week to spar when i can do it at my own gym. i get clocked occasionally but its all good and i hold my own at all times with them, even getting on top sometimes
iceman55 07-30-2008, 02:45 PM I train with 18oz gloves and they increased my hand speed quite a big but when I go in the ring with them it messes my whole game up. When I spar with my 16s its a complete other story all together. Everyone I spar against use 12oz gloves from middle to heavy weight. I know thats crazy for me to spar with a heavy weight wearing 12oz gloves but I do what I can to spar and when you exhausted all options beggers cant be choosers.
Gato2012 07-30-2008, 11:54 PM The whole sparring with 18oz gloves because it'll increase handspeed thing is way overrated. I know it works in video games, but in real life the effect is more in your head than anything else. The bigger gloves are made for better protection of both your hands, and your opponent/partner.
completely disagree.
Give me 16oz
then gice me 10oz
i will feel a huuuuuuuuuuuuge difference.
I train with 16, spar with 16. Sometimes i train in 14s. I hate seeing people train in 10oz gloves or them gloves that are like 1 or 2 oz that rent even really gloves. Why even train in them? You are gonna fight with bigger gloves than that.
PunchDrunk 07-31-2008, 07:02 AM completely disagree.
Give me 16oz
then gice me 10oz
i will feel a huuuuuuuuuuuuge difference.
I train with 16, spar with 16. Sometimes i train in 14s. I hate seeing people train in 10oz gloves or them gloves that are like 1 or 2 oz that rent even really gloves. Why even train in them? You are gonna fight with bigger gloves than that.
Yes, you feel a huge difference. Doesn't mean you're actually faster with the 10 oz gloves than you would be if you'd been using them all along. It just feels that way, because obviously the other gloves will make you slower.
My guys spar with 16-18 oz gloves as well, but they're for protection, not handspeed.
I know the Cuban team use 10 oz gloves most of the time, but then again they spar very lightly most of the time, because they have 30-40 fights a year.
Domey 07-31-2008, 08:27 AM As far as the whole making you faster thing, where are we getting this? From baseball? They swing a weighted bat before they are due up and take it off? Sure, that's immediatly after. They arnt swinging that weighted bat during pracitce then come game time just using a regular bat all game. Anyhow, silly subject.
I use to spar with 16oz Reyes gloves. But they are defective in my right thumb and I can only spar very few rounds before being in pain. I just recently got a pair of 14oz gloves from Everlast that have the same style as the Reyes I normally use. Not to much of a difference and they are comfertable.
On the bigbag and punching mitts I use my 12oz Reyes. For other things like the double end bag I have a small pair of 8oz Everlast that I use.
I spar with guys heavier then me all the time. I however still always used the 16oz gloves, and now the 14oz gloves. Sparring is not a fight, and you don't go in there to hurt one another. You go in there to work, and learn from your mistakes. If you are sparring people heavier then you, they should have enough common sense to not use all of their power. Using 10oz gloves during sparring? I don't get it. Alot of risk factors come into play, specially for the guy getting punched with a much smaller glove. Would be really to bad to get a cut before a fight sparring someone that is using 10oz gloves when I am using 14 or 16oz gloves.
I fight at Jr. Lightweight btw, and I often spar a middleweight and even a light heavyweight(We both use 14/16oz gloves). When I do get sparring in around my weight(140, 150), they are new guys down in the gym who have no experience and I just go in and work with them.
markeeta 07-31-2008, 09:06 AM I only know they way I've been trained, but I use mits on the bags and 16's for sparring. The only time I've used anything less on another person is when there was nothing else available and it was very very controlled.
I feel that if you want to increase your handspeed, pick up some hand weights instead. I have actually used 16's on a bag once, but that only says a lot about the cement someone decided to pour into it as filling.
The only time I've seen gloves bigger than 16's was in a **** movie, and I don't think they were there for the boxing.
verbz 07-31-2008, 09:30 AM i dnt understand people claimin dey spar in 10oz is this at actual boxing gyms or dem boxercise bodysparrin bull**** clubs?? in all da gyms iv been to and sparred at its always been da same 16oz for sparring or rarely 14oz iv never experienced anythin lower!! im a bit baffed:confused::confused:
judge_jab 07-31-2008, 12:42 PM i spar, hit the pads, do drills and hit the bags at the gym using my 16oz, everyone else only uses their 16oz for sparring so i feel good knowing that i'm putting myself through a harder workout when we're going all out on the bags, and i'm going out at a faster pace in my 16's than they are in their bag mitts! It's part psychological and physiological. I have the second faster hands in the gym, only to a 60 fight pro (i'm training for my first).
At home i do 4 rounds of shadowboxing, 1 with my 22 ounche bag gloves on, then i take them off, so i do two of each.
I do the same on the bag afterwards, 1 round with 22 ounce bag gloves then 1 with just bag mitts. i then repeat so two of each. I do 2 minute rounds and really push myself, i also have 30 seconds in between rounds which is enough to put on the gloves and take a sip of water.
My hands will be lightning fast when i'm fighting with 10 ounces!!!!!
TheTruthIs 07-31-2008, 04:11 PM [QUOTE=Domey;3863649]As far as the whole making you faster thing, where are we getting this? From baseball? They swing a weighted bat before they are due up and take it off? Sure, that's immediatly after. They arnt swinging that weighted bat during pracitce then come game time just using a regular bat all game. Anyhow, silly subject.
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And even then it is a silly subject. It was just recently proven that swinging that extra weight (prestepping into the box) did not in any way increase bat speed, thus making a person hit further. It in fact does the exact opposite and makes them slower and hit worse, or less distance and softer. So yea...for whatever....like 100 years or however long people have been doing it, thinking that now lighter feeling bat is getting you better results? It's been totally wrong. Scientifically proven so. Oops!!
Just watched it the other night here on Sports Science, there may be some info. at this link on it here http://www.discoverychannel.ca/shows/showdetails.aspx?sid=8967 . I can't be arsed to go thru it all and find it, but yea it's now proven fact.
So those of you using those big ol' mitts thinking that lighter mitt after is now making you faster, better? Same principles may apply. Science will soon know. But for baseball it's been a myth all along. ;)
Wear gloves for proper protection, for fit and form and circumstances...and realize the differences are in how much damage they will do to your opponent be it sparring or santioned. And if you're a baseball player about to add that ring to your bat before you step in the box, or about to grab 2 bats and give em a warm up swing ? Time to rethink that logic my friend. You are making yourself less prepared. not more.
Trrmo 07-31-2008, 05:59 PM I know the Cuban team use 10 oz gloves most of the time, but then again they spar very lightly most of the time, because they have 30-40 fights a year.
I have justed started going to a new gym here in Ecuador coached by a Cuban trainer and the boxers here all spar with 12oz as well. I had to go out and buy some gloves for sparring and asking around I to find out the size I learned here 12oz is the norm as well which was surprising.
Though I havent seen any hard sparring yet though, I will see tomorrow when I get to try out my new gloves a(nd headgear). I bought them straight out of the workshop of the guy that makes them (who happens to be the national coach and his son) so got to see how they make them.
By the way, the 10,12 & 14 oz were basically the same the weight is changed only by sewing in weighted ball bearings to the wrist part.
Heres some pics, the gloves were $35 and the headguard $24. Feel and look to be very good quality and the headguard fits perfectly.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/trrmo/2720837398/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/trrmo/2720832008/
Trrmo 07-31-2008, 06:08 PM http://www.flickr.com/photos/trrmo/2720837398/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/trrmo/2720832008/
Couldnt work out how to post the photos?????
dfwtx 07-31-2008, 07:26 PM http://www.flickr.com/photos/trrmo/2720837398/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/trrmo/2720832008/
Couldnt work out how to post the photos?????
I use tinypic, just hit browse and find the photos then hit upload and choose the link that says forums.
Those look nice, is that the kind all the ams use there? How do the gloves fit?
Trrmo 07-31-2008, 08:00 PM I use tinypic, just hit browse and find the photos then hit upload and choose the link that says forums.
Those look nice, is that the kind all the ams use there? How do the gloves fit?
They fit really well and they are meant to last which is the most important thing, I dont know if they use these for tournaments though.
Domey 07-31-2008, 10:22 PM If you want to add speed, add some resistance to your shadow boxing. They have things you can put on around your upper torsoe that are connected by bungicord like things. Should help increase your speed.
Other then that, your best bet is working on your timing. Skip rope, double end bag, speed bag.
Fernando Torres 07-31-2008, 11:32 PM For all round training I think 16oz are too big and unrealistic. If you like to be methodical spar with 12oz or even amateur boxing gloves!
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