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norma1250
07-27-2008, 05:13 AM
The fastest fighters of all time can be broken up into different parts. handspeed, reflexes, elusiveness. Also can anybody tell me any one of these guys training regime, schedule, techniques, etc.

Sugar Ray Leonard
Roy Jones Jr.
Meldrick Taylor
Muhammad Ali (young Cassius Clay)
Sugar Ray Robinson
Willie Pep
Sugar Shane Mosley
Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Floyd Mayweather Sr.
Joe Calzaghe
Jersey Joe Walcott
Mike Tyson (mid 80's)
Pernell Whitaker
Larry Holmes
Naseem Hamed
Billy Conn
Zab Judah
Benny Leonard

anybody else

Flawless
07-27-2008, 05:56 AM
Roy Jones Jr The fastest ever

slicksouthpaw16
07-27-2008, 06:09 AM
I still think that Meldrick Taylor is fastest boxer that i have ever seen. He could add pop behind his flurries becuase he stopped a very durable great champion in James Buddy Mgirt from accumlation. He was just brilliant in that fight. It was actually close until Mgrit fadded from all of the body work that was being done to him and fighting at that fast pace.

norma1250
07-27-2008, 06:10 AM
i agree with flawless. does anybody know what exercises Roy Jones does, like weightlifting, etc.

them_apples
07-27-2008, 07:39 AM
Floyd Mayweather Sr

do you mean in an Era or all time? Because fighters like Jersey Joe Wallcott shouldn't be considered the fastest of all time. Maybe in his Era

hishaam15
07-27-2008, 08:37 AM
Roy Jones Jr.
too much handspeed, incrededible reflexes, even at HW... and all that accompanied with decent power.

hishaam15
07-27-2008, 08:39 AM
i agree with flawless. does anybody know what exercises Roy Jones does, like weightlifting, etc.

Nah, Roy Jones never did weights. i think he only did them for the Ruiz fight so he could move up in weight.. otherwise he would build the muscle as naturally as possible (pressups, situps, jumprope etc..)

all great fighters never or rarely used weights

GTL
07-27-2008, 12:32 PM
Weights arent UN-NATURAL tho bro..

But Roy didn't use weights..

I think Meldrick was the fastest COMBINATION puncher..
Roy Jones was the fastest fighter I've ever seen in my life.. I've said this before..
It was a pleasure to be watching him in my era as a kid..

I loved Roy when I was a kid..

joseph5620
07-27-2008, 01:40 PM
The fastest fighters of all time can be broken up into different parts. handspeed, reflexes, elusiveness. Also can anybody tell me any one of these guys training regime, schedule, techniques, etc.

Sugar Ray Leonard
Roy Jones Jr.
Meldrick Taylor
Muhammad Ali (young Cassius Clay)
Sugar Ray Robinson
Willie Pep
Sugar Shane Mosley
Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Floyd Mayweather Sr.
Joe Calzaghe
Jersey Joe Walcott
Mike Tyson (mid 80's)
Pernell Whitaker
Larry Holmes
Naseem Hamed
Billy Conn
Zab Judah
Benny Leonard

anybody else

I would add Howard Davis to that list.

sugarshanenas
07-27-2008, 02:18 PM
Meldrick T

marciano1952
07-27-2008, 03:04 PM
Willie Pep

clarkhillfitnes
07-27-2008, 05:11 PM
Willie Pep was one of the fastest boxers of all time, if not the fastest!

www.clarkhillfitness.com

wpink1
07-27-2008, 05:54 PM
As an ameteur I say Leonard, he hand speed and combinations, etc..Roy nor Mayweather nor Taylor could touch the 1976 olympics version of Leonard in the category of speed.

As a professional, I personally thought Roy Jones was the fastest I have ever seen. At middleweight he was faster than Leonard was at welter, However even thought Roy had power, he rarely committed to his punches like Leonard learned to do under Dundee and thus slowed from his days as a olympian.

From what Leonrad and everyone has said, Taylor's combinations were faster than Leonards as a professional, but he could not knock you out like Leonard could with any individual punch in the combination. Camacho was super fast, and Mayweather and Roy's counters where that the fastest I have ever seen.

Roy never did weights until Ruiz. I am not sure what specific training methods they ever did to build on speed. You may want to emaikl John Scully, as he knows Leonard personally, and he knows the game and all the training strategies that goes on.

Fidayin
07-27-2008, 06:50 PM
Nah, Roy Jones never did weights. i think he only did them for the Ruiz fight so he could move up in weight.. otherwise he would build the muscle as naturally as possible (pressups, situps, jumprope etc..)

all great fighters never or rarely used weights

explain me the science why pressups,situps and jumprope are natural and weightlifting isn't.

BG_Knocc_Out
07-27-2008, 08:55 PM
explain me the science why pressups,situps and jumprope are natural and weightlifting isn't.

Those mentioned like push ups, situps, etc, seem to be more about keeping in shape and lifting weights as to get bigger. But I don't know much, I just do what my trainer tells me to do, no questions asked.

them_apples
07-27-2008, 08:55 PM
weights are good for boxing, bodybuilding is not

Brunswick Assassin
07-27-2008, 09:29 PM
- Floyd Patterson
- Ike Williams
- Sugar Ray Robinson
- Jack Dempsey
- Mickey Walker
- Ali
- James Toney
- Harry Greb
- Meldrick Taylor

Dambala
07-28-2008, 12:54 AM
Sugar Ray Leonard
Roy Jones Jr.
Meldrick Taylor
Floyd Mayweather
Naz
Shane Mosley
Zab Judah
Oscar De La Hoya
Ivan Calderon
Willie Pep

Dynamite76
07-28-2008, 03:37 PM
Howard Davis Jr
Ray Leonard
Bernard Taylor
Roy Jones Jr
Sugar Ray Robinson
Hector Camacho
Muhammad Ali
Floyd Patterson
Greg Page
Michael Dokes.

joseph5620
07-28-2008, 05:14 PM
[QUOTE=wpink1;3841600]As an ameteur I say Leonard, he hand speed and combinations, etc..Roy nor Mayweather nor Taylor could touch the 1976 olympics version of Leonard in the category of speed.

As a professional, I personally thought Roy Jones was the fastest I have ever seen. At middleweight he was faster than Leonard was at welter, However even thought Roy had power, he rarely committed to his punches like Leonard learned to do under Dundee and thus slowed from his days as a olympian.


I don't agree with that. Jones punched very hard at 160 and 168 to the body and the head. I didn't notice any loss of speed either.

-CANE-
07-28-2008, 07:39 PM
The fastest fighters of all time can be broken up into different parts. handspeed, reflexes, elusiveness. Also can anybody tell me any one of these guys training regime, schedule, techniques, etc.

Sugar Ray Leonard
Roy Jones Jr.
Meldrick Taylor
Muhammad Ali (young Cassius Clay)
Sugar Ray Robinson
Willie Pep
Sugar Shane Mosley
Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Floyd Mayweather Sr.
Joe Calzaghe
Jersey Joe Walcott
Mike Tyson (mid 80's)
Pernell Whitaker
Larry Holmes
Naseem Hamed
Billy Conn
Zab Judah
Benny Leonard

anybody else

Just a few to add to the list

Tony Tubbs.
Michael Nunn.
Floyd Patterson.
Donald Curry.

Dynamite76
07-28-2008, 08:00 PM
these guys could also be considered:
Lightning Lonnie Smith
Mitch Green
James Tillis.

ben41193
07-28-2008, 09:26 PM
leonord roy zab

JAB5239
07-28-2008, 09:54 PM
The fastest fighters of all time can be broken up into different parts. handspeed, reflexes, elusiveness. Also can anybody tell me any one of these guys training regime, schedule, techniques, etc.

Sugar Ray Leonard
Roy Jones Jr.
Meldrick Taylor
Muhammad Ali (young Cassius Clay)
Sugar Ray Robinson
Willie Pep
Sugar Shane Mosley
Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Floyd Mayweather Sr.
Joe Calzaghe
Jersey Joe Walcott
Mike Tyson (mid 80's)
Pernell Whitaker
Larry Holmes
Naseem Hamed
Billy Conn
Zab Judah
Benny Leonard

anybody else

Tough call. There have been so many. Meldrick Taylor and Roy Jones probably pulled the trigger faster than anyone if you force me4 to choose, but damn! Anybody remember an ESPN fighter named Eddie Cook? He had some fast hands if I remember correctly.

JC Warrior
07-29-2008, 02:01 AM
For handspeed in a fight Meldrick Taylor was incredible. Recall he didn't punch with body or power, he was all arm and it was one of the most amazing displays to behold. Roy Jones or Ray Leonard are 2nd or 3rd in a tossup beyond those three I don't think too many were close.

In reflexes gotta be Ali. Roy Jones or Pernell Whitaker in the followup. Again no slight to any other fighter but Ali had an uncanny ability to avoid punches the same way Spiderman had spidersense or whatever precognitive ability it was...Ali consistently did all the wrong things fundamentally and got away with them...even when he was old lol.

Only other adds I think really deserve mention on that inital posted list would be Howard Davis and James Toney. Solid list though!!

Tony Jones
07-29-2008, 08:11 AM
Most of the main guys been mentioned it seems so i'll throw in one of my fav fighters, Joan Guzman.