Vitali Klitschko is going to clean up the heavyweight division, with champs like Chris Byrd and John Ruiz, who can stop him. He'll be undisputed in no time, unless he wants his bro to be champ at the same time like he says.

For the love of God, it will not kill you to reply to an existing thread!

lol :D no offense to infamouz but niels is right

Vitali will not unify, mark my words.

Vitali will not unify, mark my words.
i dont think he will unify either

Vitali will never get the chance to unify unless he signs with Don King.

Kind wont let Vitali fight any of his fighters unless he has options on Vitali. Thats boxing politics for you

Someone is gonna eventually beat Vitali, definitively and without controversy. I don't know who its gonna be but he WILL get beat.

There isn't much of a division for cleaning up right now. The heavyweight division is, in my opinion, probably the least exciting it has been in a long time. Vitali is the most outstanding of the bunch though. I think his brother should look for other work.

Someone is gonna eventually beat Vitali, definitively and without controversy. I don't know who its gonna be but he WILL get beat.


He's already been beaten twice without contraversy

There isn't much of a division for cleaning up right now. The heavyweight division is, in my opinion, probably the least exciting it has been in a long time. Vitali is the most outstanding of the bunch though. I think his brother should look for other work.

Good call! Wlad should definetly look for other work.

He's already been beaten twice without contraversy

Yes good point!! What I meant was that the Klit fans will not be able to make an excuse for this loss.

You are kidding right? I mean, you don't really think either one of the "Cutslo" brothers are that good do you?

"Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the World" will not be said in the ring for years to come - long after the 2 or 3 years either of the Klit Bros will be around....

For the love of God, it will not kill you to reply to an existing thread!

HAHAHAHAHA. Oh man, good karma for you.

Vitali will never get the chance to unify unless he signs with Don King.

Kind wont let Vitali fight any of his fighters unless he has options on Vitali. Thats boxing politics for you


.....That my friends is the real reason he won't unify. If he got the opportunity to fight the King fighters without selling his soul then he most assuredly would unify.

i think he can but i dont think there is no way he can beat tyson even a 38 yr old tyson

one little thing everyone is neglecting to acknowledge:

Vitali hasn't beaten anyone who matters yet

kirk's done; corrie would have been done if he hadn't destroyed vitali's brother on short notice; Vitali's next biggest wins of his career are against Larry Donald and Herbie Hide. Now he's fighting a guy who was down 5 points in 4 rounds before KO'ing an injured Tyson. vitali's gonna clean up WHAT?

Who is going to beat him then?

I think Ruiz can beat him. Maybe Rahman and Golota - someone who can test his chin better than anyone has recently. The dude was wobbled in Round 1 vs. Sanders.

I'm not saying he's not potentially the best guy out there - but he hasn't done enough to really deserve the mass praise. He needs to Beat Ruiz. Or Beat Byrd (and make it count)

Or if you're not going to mess with King fighters, fine - beat Toney, Tyson, Guinn, Barrett, Mesi - but for heaven's sake, Vit, at least get a respectable winning streak together before the boxing world anoints you King...

I'm not saying he's not the man, but this is a sorry resume for recognized heavyweight champ. We've had this conversation before, Neuraxis. Maybe it's not Vit's fault - but he needs a convincing win over Williams and an immediate plan to establish himself as "the man." 'Cause a lot of us aren't ready to buy it yet...

no boxer has ever been appointed king like u sayin.. with them kind of challengers .. i wonder why thats happening with him already

I think Ruiz can beat him. Maybe Rahman and Golota - someone who can test his chin better than anyone has recently. The dude was wobbled in Round 1 vs. Sanders.

I'm not saying he's not potentially the best guy out there - but he hasn't done enough to really deserve the mass praise. He needs to Beat Ruiz. Or Beat Byrd (and make it count)

Or if you're not going to mess with King fighters, fine - beat Toney, Tyson, Guinn, Barrett, Mesi - but for heaven's sake, Vit, at least get a respectable winning streak together before the boxing world anoints you King...

I'm not saying he's not the man, but this is a sorry resume for recognized heavyweight champ. We've had this conversation before, Neuraxis. Maybe it's not Vit's fault - but he needs a convincing win over Williams and an immediate plan to establish himself as "the man." 'Cause a lot of us aren't ready to buy it yet...

Yes we have had this conversation before. You are really underestimating Sanders this time though. He landed a flush shot on Vitali and it didn't put him down. Sanders KD'd Rahman and dominated the early rounds against him which he was unable to do against Vitali.

no boxer has ever been appointed king like u sayin.. with them kind of challengers .. i wonder why thats happening with him already

Maybe because all of or most of the challengers are shot, or never weres.

it's not that he's running - he begged Lewis for a rematch. It's just a matter of circumstances...

But look, if he beats Williams, people will say "Well the Williams - Tyson thing was an obvious fluke" - Then Toney can't make the mandatory #1 spot because he tears another muscle - then the WBC may or may not come up with a good opponent for him. There's 3 other belts - Rahman/Meehan may be fighting for the WBO - is anyone going to call Vitali vs. the Owen Beck/Monte Barrett winner a dream match?

Yes we have had this conversation before. You are really underestimating Sanders this time though. He landed a flush shot on Vitali and it didn't put him down. Sanders KD'd Rahman and dominated the early rounds against him which he was unable to do against Vitali.

Yes, but Corrie already had the mindset that he was retiring prior to the Wlad fight and had an injury and poor conditioning prior to the Vit fight. I wouldn't say he "mailed it in" - he took a lot of punishment, but the Sanders that fought Rahman wasn't the Sanders that fought Vitali.

I know that Sanders has asked the WBO to rank him again - maybe another 900,000 will make him put off his golf pro gig - but in a better, more skilled division - Sanders is done. He has a big punch, but that's really not all that special at the heavyweight level when accompanied with nothing much else.

it's not that he's running - he begged Lewis for a rematch. It's just a matter of circumstances...

But look, if he beats Williams, people will say "Well the Williams - Tyson thing was an obvious fluke" - Then Toney can't make the mandatory #1 spot because he tears another muscle - then the WBC may or may not come up with a good opponent for him. There's 3 other belts - Rahman/Meehan may be fighting for the WBO - is anyone going to call Vitali vs. the Owen Beck/Monte Barrett winner a dream match?

No, so I guess the moral of the story is that no matter who Vitali beats, it is going to be hard for people to give him the credit that he deserves because the division is so weak.

It didn't matter what the division looked like when Tyson came in and starting knocking everyone out.

Klitschko is a plain, uninteresting fighter. He needs to come up with some big KOs - and he needs to work on his personality!

Vit:

Call out some guys, make some faces in the ring - look like the beast that your frame allows. Hit these bums with a vengeance.

And quit talking about your lesser brother in all your damn interviews. Nobody cares that you want him to carry a belt, too, so you guys can pose with them in some more fruity photos.

Learn some American slang - work on the accent. You're in LA now - Hollywood yourself. The heavyweight division is ugly. You've gotta make it pretty - and if your opponents can't do it, you have to.

Of course, this has to do more with image than skill. But I might cut some slack for a guy that wasn't just as boring as John Ruiz during interviews and in his corner.

It took Lennox a long time to get some respect. His wins over Francois Botha and Frank Bruno and Oliver McCall were nothing for him. It took Holyfield and Tyson to get Lewis over - and that's the truth.

It didn't matter what the division looked like when Tyson came in and starting knocking everyone out.

Klitschko is a plain, uninteresting fighter. He needs to come up with some big KOs - and he needs to work on his personality!

Vit:

Call out some guys, make some faces in the ring - look like the beast that your frame allows. Hit these bums with a vengeance.

And quit talking about your lesser brother in all your damn interviews. Nobody cares that you want him to carry a belt, too, so you guys can pose with them in some more fruity photos.

Learn some American slang - work on the accent. You're in LA now - Hollywood yourself. The heavyweight division is ugly. You've gotta make it pretty - and if your opponents can't do it, you have to.

Of course, this has to do more with image than skill. But I might cut some slack for a guy that wasn't just as boring as John Ruiz during interviews and in his corner.

It took Lennox a long time to get some respect. His wins over Francois Botha and Frank Bruno and Oliver McCall were nothing for him. It took Holyfield and Tyson to get Lewis over - and that's the truth.

I agree 100%

It's not just non-sports watching folks, it's everyone who's not an avid boxing fan - who is the recognizable heavyweight force? It's Holyfield, Tyson - they're maybe not viewed as the top guys, but people know them. When Tyson fought Williams, ESPN radio actually cared. Those guys never talk about any other heavyweight fighter for more than 1-2 minutes.

Vitali needs to (likely) TKO Williams and hold his belt up defiantly. Then when old Larry Merchant starts to ask, "Tell us about the stoppage" - Vit grabs the mic and says, in plain English he's been practicing "Chris Byrd - I want rematch. I even give up my belt for rematch. Don King - Ball is in your court."

Then he walks off.

We need something like that - nobody cares which alphabet belt you've got - go call out the only active guy to beat you.

And if the fight can't come off, it's Byrd and King looking stupid. You just keep KO'ing dudes.

But Vitali ducking Golota...I can't get behind this guy yet.

Maybe because all of or most of the challengers are shot, or never weres.


basically, everyone knows that the HW division is garbage, and Vitali is the only bright spot in it. He is "The Man" because he almost beat "The Man" at the time in LL and he disposed of the the man that beat who was supposedly next in line to be "The Man"(Wlad :( ) in Corrie Sanders. Let's all just give Vitali his props as we watch him clear out this division. Destroy and Rebuild some might say.....

its weak but i dont think that its total garbage, i just think it appears that pathetic because there hasn't been one dominant fighter that has unified or could be considered undisputed yet

Dude needs to stay away from the crack pipe. It makes you say crazy things like 'Vitali will clean up the division"

Vitali will unify...and anyone who likes Cyrd is a homo. Mark them words , homo.

Vitali will unify...and anyone who likes Cyrd is a homo. Mark them words , homo.

Do you not follow the sport at all? Do you understand that there are 4 governing bodies? Do you understand that different promoters have signed different fighters, that not everyone is a "free agent"?

Do you know that Vitali is not signed with the same guy who has the other 3 champs?

Do you know that Byrd has given Vitali one of the 'L's on his record?

What a terrible post. Are you related to that miniwheat guy who tried to blast Rick on the Opinion Central board? Newbies need to follow some rules - have a point that you can back up, or go post in the lounge where namecalling is more acceptable.

Oh yeah, tommyjenkins, how can you call Byrd fans homos? Here's your dude and his brother:

http://www.hunkvideo.com/webbbspix/larksanders/klitschko02.jpg

i think he can clean house, and i hope he does it but it is easier said than done!!

I don't think danny greeen should be considered that much of an underdog.

very bad foto...

Quite honestly they could take the current heavyweights out of boxing now and I wouldn't miss any of them, it's terrible to think that somebody as average as Vitali could actually unify the belts.

dude is way above average.

Vitali will not unify, because after he beats Ruiz, Golota will do it instead. Golota can beat Vitali.

Yes hes got 2 losses, but one from acidentaly damaging the shoulder

and the other that was stopped due to a cut caused by a headbutt, and since it was after the 5th round it should have been stopped and gone fore the scorecards acording too the queensberry rules, so in our hearts we realy know who won the fight.

The man has never been beaten upp.

Yes hes got 2 losses, but one from acidentaly damaging the shoulder

and the other that was stopped due to a cut caused by a headbutt, and since it was after the 5th round it should have been stopped and gone fore the scorecards acording too the queensberry rules, so in our hearts we realy know who won the fight.

The man has never been beaten upp.

Where do you get this head butt crap from, Leff ?

Thats how the Wlad klit vs tos was jugded.
Remeber.

Yeah....but we're talking about VITALI.

Yes thats the point what was realy so different between these fights, the should have gone too the scorecards because the doc
said the cut was so bad he couldent continue, similar situations it was stopped due too cut due too head butt.

The difference is that its not worth breaking the rules fore a bum like tos.

Yes thats the point what was realy so different between these fights, the should have gone too the scorecards because the doc
said the cut was so bad he couldent continue, similar situations it was stopped due too cut due too head butt.

The difference is that its not worth breaking the rules fore a bum like tos.


I'm not sure what you're trying to say...BUT, if a cut is caused by a PUNCH, & is ruled so, the fight goes down as a TKO when it's stopped...PERIOD.

Yes im aware of that but, it was a butt i got it on video, and a forehead flying toward you IS NOT a punch.

YES, vitali will clean up the division

To clean house in a division that doesn't have much - if ANY real talent, will do little to advance his status in boxing history.

Had he come along 10 to 15 years ago, I doubt that he or his brother would have much of an impact on the division, other than being really big and tall fighters...

basically, everyone knows that the HW division is garbage, and Vitali is the only bright spot in it. He is "The Man" because he almost beat "The Man" at the time in LL and he disposed of the the man that beat who was supposedly next in line to be "The Man"(Wlad :( ) in Corrie Sanders. Let's all just give Vitali his props as we watch him clear out this division. Destroy and Rebuild some might say.....


what the hell is this i hear about steroids?

Vitali will not unify, mark my words.


I have marked your word in my palm pilot (which I will buy soon)

Vitali will clean whatever is left in the HWY division until he runs into a tough fighter who doesn't retire when he gets stuck in a tough fight. Then we wil have some good classics on our hands and maybe even 3 fights.

it's not garbage, they all just need to start fighting each other!!

it's not garbage, they all just need to start fighting each other!!

Yes, they fight too seldom.

I believe Vit would beat eveyone else, but dont nbelieve King would let him.

There isn't much of a division for cleaning up right now. The heavyweight division is, in my opinion, probably the least exciting it has been in a long time. Vitali is the most outstanding of the bunch though. I think his brother should look for other work.Good call! Wlad should definetly look for other work.
Nah, he just needs to focus harder and gain better training.
His ****y arrogant mind is heavily polluted with all these California Sluts.

Yes hes got 2 losses, but one from acidentaly damaging the shoulder

I can´t believe why so many people believe what they are told without (most likely...) having seen the fight :rolleyes: . Living in Europe, I have seen all of Vitalis fights of course. I consider him the best Heavyweight at the moment (although I do think he can be beaten by some fighters), but his hurt shoulder in the fight with Byrd is bull****! He was running out of gas and quit. He was said to had suffered the same thing like Holyfield in his fight with Byrd. Holyfield didn´t use his left arm (cause you CAN`T do it with this damage) Vitali used it and his first excuse in the post fight interview was "I hurt my right hand..." :eek: .

Let me add one thing: The decision to quit was made in seconds. Vitali has learned from it and I´m quite sure he´d never do it again ;) !

I can´t believe why so many people believe what they are told without (most likely...) having seen the fight :rolleyes: . Living in Europe, I have seen all of Vitalis fights of course. I consider him the best Heavyweight at the moment (although I do think he can be beaten by some fighters), but his hurt shoulder in the fight with Byrd is bull****! He was running out of gas and quit. He was said to had suffered the same thing like Holyfield in his fight with Byrd. Holyfield didn´t use his left arm (cause you CAN`T do it with this damage) Vitali used it and his first excuse in the post fight interview was "I hurt my right hand..." :eek: .

Let me add one thing: The decision to quit was made in seconds. Vitali has learned from it and I´m quite sure he´d never do it again ;) !

Im not told i saw the fight fool, Byrd got his ass kicked, there was no other way Byrd could win if Vit hadent given upp late in the fight.

Could Byrd win by poins? no Vits lead was too strong.

Could Byrd have knocked Vit out? No way in hell, you cant destroy a rock with a featherduster.

...dude and his brother:

http://www.hunkvideo.com/webbbspix/larksanders/klitschko02.jpg

What for Vit married - he has brother. :)

I can´t believe why so many people believe what they are told without (most likely...) having seen the fight :rolleyes: . Living in Europe, I have seen all of Vitalis fights of course. I consider him the best Heavyweight at the moment (although I do think he can be beaten by some fighters), but his hurt shoulder in the fight with Byrd is bull****! He was running out of gas and quit. He was said to had suffered the same thing like Holyfield in his fight with Byrd. Holyfield didn´t use his left arm (cause you CAN`T do it with this damage) Vitali used it and his first excuse in the post fight interview was "I hurt my right hand..." :eek: .

Let me add one thing: The decision to quit was made in seconds. Vitali has learned from it and I´m quite sure he´d never do it again ;) !

What are you talking about man? How does someone hurt tear the rotator cuff of there left shoulder which required surgery and fake and injury? The HBO crew were the ones speculating about the hand. I never heard anything from the Klitschko camp about his hand. How many punches did Vitali land from with left? Hardly any. You claim that you have seen his fights, but you really need to dig up this tape and watch it again. Holyfield unlike Vitali continued fighting with his hurt shoulder, and now he is unable to hold up his left guard or throw punches with his left without being in extreme pain.