How long before training should you eat meals? Im asking this because i've recently joined an Kenpo club that starts their training at my dinner time so my meal routine is ****ed up and i get REALLY hungry/weak during training so i would like to know how long it takes for the body to digest stuff like pasta, rice, meat and sausage, Also, what should you generally eat after a workout?

A meal would probably be best consumed at least 1.5 hours before training. Some kind of snack like a banana would probably be alright an hour before training - probably even 30 minutes.

I think it really depends on your metabolism, which is different for everyone. I know that personally I can consume a meal, and have to take a **** about 20 minutes later (and become hungry again). Maybe I have a fast metabolism - I don't know.

Since your training is starting in the evening, I would recommend eating rice for lunch as it provides more long-term energy that you would use to not be so hungry during your workout. Maybe have some oatmeal and a banana before you go train, if possible.

Post workout I would have just a banana. If that's your last big physical exercise of the day, you don't really need too much food for energy, as you'll probably be going to sleep pretty soon afterwards. If you must have something, I would make it very light - some raw vegetables, and maybe a piece of very lean meat if you must. I wouldn't eat carbs after your workout - unless you don't really care too much about weight loss.

Hope this helps man.

A meal would probably be best consumed at least 1.5 hours before training. Some kind of snack like a banana would probably be alright an hour before training - probably even 30 minutes.

I think it really depends on your metabolism, which is different for everyone. I know that personally I can consume a meal, and have to take a **** about 20 minutes later (and become hungry again). Maybe I have a fast metabolism - I don't know.

Since your training is starting in the evening, I would recommend eating rice for lunch as it provides more long-term energy that you would use to not be so hungry during your workout. Maybe have some oatmeal and a banana before you go train, if possible.

Post workout I would have just a banana. If that's your last big physical exercise of the day, you don't really need too much food for energy, as you'll probably be going to sleep pretty soon afterwards. If you must have something, I would make it very light - some raw vegetables, and maybe a piece of very lean meat if you must. I wouldn't eat carbs after your workout - unless you don't really care too much about weight loss.

Hope this helps man.
Please dont listen to him. You need a post workout meal it is essential in repairing the muscle tissue lost after a hard workout. Carbs are also a must post workout as they aid in the recovery of muscle fiber. Have a good protein carb meal following your workouts.

Please dont listen to him. You need a post workout meal it is essential in repairing the muscle tissue lost after a hard workout. Carbs are also a must post workout as they aid in the recovery of muscle fiber. Have a good protein carb meal following your workouts.

What do you suggest he do if you comes home after 6 or 7 p.m after his workout? Still have the carbs?

Maybe I didn't make it clear; if your goal is to lose weight, I don't suggest eating carbs after your workout because most likely it will end after 6 or 7 (if it starts near dinner time). If weight isn't an issue for you, then yes, carbohydrates and protein should be eaten after your workout.

What's Carbs? Post Workout meal? o_O... Im a bit new to these slangs so please go easy on me :X the club starts around 6:30 PM on wednesdays and is about 60-80 minutes long so i need something that lasts around that time and some info on what i should eat after a workout aswell. Also, i would like to note that i'am an allergic to almost all fruits and vegetables so i can't just really take some for a snack. Also, i read something about rice that it absorbs the water in your body, that can't be too good to eat if you're going to sweat alot soon or can it?


And please, try not to start any argues orelse this whole thread will go straight down the :Flush:. All help and tips are appreciated and should preferabley go un-discussed. Amen:crucified:



EDIT: My main goal is to loose weight and get my body as fit as possible to the sport cause i will probably try the competing stuff later on. Once again, All help is greatly appreciated and shall be rewarded with +karma.

What do you suggest he do if you comes home after 6 or 7 p.m after his workout? Still have the carbs?

Maybe I didn't make it clear; if your goal is to lose weight, I don't suggest eating carbs after your workout because most likely it will end after 6 or 7 (if it starts near dinner time). If weight isn't an issue for you, then yes, carbohydrates and protein should be eaten after your workout.

Carbs dont make you fat excess calories make you fat. Stop wit all this bro-science you got goin on man.

If you want to be able to workout often and not feel sore as hell the next day then you need carbs and protein after a workout despite the time.

your an odd one...lol...but i agree with both of them...in a since...
it depends on your metabolism what you eat and can eat before a work out....
try to eat six or so small nutrient packed meals that way your body doesnt get full but it doesnt lose fuel or get hungry...
i usually space them about three hours apart for me...
and drink lots and lots and lots of water...

that is my advice...
im getting fitter by the day...due to boxing...and a lot of cardio and semi-dieting...
its hard to do it right all the time....sometimes i slip up..but hey im human...
and i love food...but i do alright...
but i wouldnt eat up to two hours before a work out...
and never eat to the point of sleepiness lol.

Okaaay... I might be having too much calories then since there are quite an amount in pasta (Which i eat alot, and doubtfully exercise it all).. And isn't it like really tricky to have like 6-8 meals a day o_o? i can barely keep my breakfast, lunch and dinner.. and is vegetables really a must? >.> can't i have like 4 times rice and 4 times pasta? :-0

You can eat whatever food you want. Just make sure you get enough protein, essential fatty acids, and take a multivitamin. Also make sure you are taking in the right amount of cals. I wouldent recommend going over 2000 if you are trying to loose weight.

Now on the other hand if you care about your performace in the ring I would recommend eating alot of whole grain foods to provide yourself sustained energy throughout the day. Veggies also are very important to ensure that you receieve all the nutrients a multivitamin can not provide.

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I wouldn't eat a meal before training, I ate 2 hours before training once, I was certain that it'd be fine by then. I was so slow, tired and sluggish by the first bit. Digesting a meal takes up a great deal of blood supply which makes it very difficult to do exercise. Try eating a banana and 1 or 2 cereal bars about 40 mins before. Don't buy the bars which have chocolate or stuff in them, it's so funny watching people eat them thinking they're being healthy not knowing they prob' have as much sugar as a chocolate bar haha. Try get ones which are just stuff like nuts and dried fruit stuck together with honey and then baked. Those 2 things will keep you happy until training is over and will supply a good supply of slowly released energy. Wait about an hour after training to eat as your body needs the blood supply to repair the stress on the body. Problem is you end up eating quite late.

yeah 6-8 meals a day is hella tricky...but the less food you eat the more your body puts away for storage..i.e. fat.

by less food i mean stuffing yourself twice a day or so...but three times a day is good..lol...just do what you feel comfortable with..and watch the caloric intake.

What's Carbs? Post Workout meal? o_O... Im a bit new to these slangs so please go easy on me :X


i want to know if that was a serious question. trying not to be an ******* but do you really not know what carbs are?

carbs are the nutrients that are basically the quick energy supplies. all bread, pasta, rice etc is high in carbs.

I AM FROM THE CAMP THAT BELIEVES IN CARBS POST WORKOUT

BUT if you are really trying to lose weight you for sure for sure need to limit your carb intake. it sounds like you are eating a ton of carbs and that is going to make your fat loss hard.

IDEALLY, your post workout meal (the feeding within 3 hours after exercise) should have a lean (not a lot of fat) protein source and carbs.

the carbs act as a shuttle to efficiently carry the protein where it is needed. this efficiency is what gets you stronger and less sore.

HOWEVER, if you REALLY need to lose weight and you try these carb meals post workout and they make you gain weight, cut the carbs.

The post workout window (3 hours after exercise) is the time your body handles carbs the best (uses them without turning as much into fat.) If you want to lose fat, the obvious answer is to eat most of your carbs post workout when you can digest them the best, and limit carbs the rest of the day. This is too hard for a lot of people though. That leads them to say it would never work. In my opinion it is ideal, but people will disagree.

i forgot to mention, you speed up your metabolism by eating every 3 hours (not stuffing yourself silly).

This is important. I think most people will agree.

if you are eating 2-3 big meals a day you are going to have a slow metabolism. if you are eating 2-3 small or medium sized meals you are still going to have a slow metabolism. you want a fast one. do what you think is right.

are you really allergic to most fruits and vegetables or is that just an excuse to not eat them bc you don't like them? nevertheless they are very very important to your diet, and you said most fruits and vegetables that means there are some you are not "allergic" to.

eat those.

i want to know if that was a serious question. trying not to be an ******* but do you really not know what carbs are?

carbs are the nutrients that are basically the quick energy supplies. all bread, pasta, rice etc is high in carbs.

I AM FROM THE CAMP THAT BELIEVES IN CARBS POST WORKOUT

BUT if you are really trying to lose weight you for sure for sure need to limit your carb intake. it sounds like you are eating a ton of carbs and that is going to make your fat loss hard.

IDEALLY, your post workout meal (the feeding within 3 hours after exercise) should have a lean (not a lot of fat) protein source and carbs.

the carbs act as a shuttle to efficiently carry the protein where it is needed. this efficiency is what gets you stronger and less sore.

HOWEVER, if you REALLY need to lose weight and you try these carb meals post workout and they make you gain weight, cut the carbs.

The post workout window (3 hours after exercise) is the time your body handles carbs the best (uses them without turning as much into fat.) If you want to lose fat, the obvious answer is to eat most of your carbs post workout when you can digest them the best, and limit carbs the rest of the day. This is too hard for a lot of people though. That leads them to say it would never work. In my opinion it is ideal, but people will disagree.

You need to cut calories to loose weight not carbs. And if you dont want to have ****ty workouts u need plenty of carbs.

You need to cut calories to loose weight not carbs. And if you dont want to have ****ty workouts u need plenty of carbs.

i absolutely agree that you need to cut calories to lose weight, but i guess i was assuming his caloric intake was at the appropriate level for his fat loss.

What i was suggesting was that he get his calories in check AND time his carb intake right to maximize fat oxidation. Assuming calories are at the appropriate level cutting carbs definitely helps you cut fat. this goes into a whole long discussion about macronutrient profiles but think about it, if you are trying to lose weight and you are eating pasta and bread with every meal will it be as fast as if you limited carbs at certain times?

will you have AS good of workouts as if you were carbing up all day? probably not. will they be ****ty? probably not. will you lose fat more efficiently? definitely.

Okay so i'll try to eat something like a banana before training and rice/sallad after training, But what should i have for breakfast/lunch? Bread with cucumber/butter? ( I wake up around 12 AM usually quite hungry) And can anyone make an example on how big meals you should have for like 6-8 times a day?

i absolutely agree that you need to cut calories to lose weight, but i guess i was assuming his caloric intake was at the appropriate level for his fat loss.

What i was suggesting was that he get his calories in check AND time his carb intake right to maximize fat oxidation. Assuming calories are at the appropriate level cutting carbs definitely helps you cut fat. this goes into a whole long discussion about macronutrient profiles but think about it, if you are trying to lose weight and you are eating pasta and bread with every meal will it be as fast as if you limited carbs at certain times?

will you have AS good of workouts as if you were carbing up all day? probably not. will they be ****ty? probably not. will you lose fat more efficiently? definitely.

If he gets in adequete protein, and essential fatty acids then he can eat as much carbs as he wants to fill the rest of his cals. Its still not going to be a extreme amount because he will have many of his calories taken up from protein and fats anyways.

Also you do not need to eat 6-8 meals a day it does nothing to speed up the metabolism. It has been a hugely overdramticised myth that is not true( i could show proof but am too lazy to find links ). As long as the calories and macros are the same you will see the same results with 2 meals or 8 meals.

my food plan yesterday:

morning approx 830:
cereal+ banana+one daily multivitamin

eleven o'clock:
pasta alfredo about a cups worth

one o' clock:
turkey hotdog, on wheat bread

three o' clock:
turkey hotdog, on wheat bread

then...i was busy at work so i couldnt eat...
then i went to the gym...so again i couldnt eat...
but after the gym

approx 8:30 pm:
a turkey pattie
and side of salad(ranch dressing...cuz i dont like lettuce plain..bleh!)

those were my meals...on an ideal day i would have eaten something around fiveish...
but i dont like to eat right before i hit the gym for three hours...
it makes me feel off...

also drank lots and lots and lots of water...to the point where i had to take a piss every like twentyfive-thirty minutes

its like 115 degrees Farenheit here so...water is a nessesity.

Damn thats hot. Yuma ehh.... Would suck to live there. Is boxing big?

Honestly, if your goal is to just cut fat and not fight (is this your goal?) then just have 3 healthy meals a day, have about 2500 calories (ideal male intake) and do your boxing. That will result in weight loss. If you go about having like 1500 cals and then do boxing you'll make yourself sick because instead of using 2500 cals (usual male usage) you'll use like 3000, if not more, because of the boxing but you'll be running on 1500...That means you're running on half what your body needs which will, no doubt, mean rapid weight loss but it might be too quick to be healthy. To be honest, I don't know how many calories you use up boxing but I would imagine it would be more than 500 so if it was, say, nearer 1000 cals used up for boxing, you're looking at a serious deficit.

Damn thats hot. Yuma ehh.... Would suck to live there. Is boxing big?

there is only one gym here...and its youth oriented...there are around five boxers(not including trainers) over eighteen here.

Boxing is big from a fan standpoint but not from actually getting off your ass and doing it stand point...

Yuma tends to go off of california trends...hince
MMA and UFC are big here...i think like three gyms just opened for those purposes

Okay so now iam officially confused. One say a thing, another says its wrong.. T.T My goal is to loose fat and get fit to compete in the sport (Fight later on) Kenpo, Its a kind of kickboxing where you need to have lithe legs, decent stamina and not necessarily alot of muscle.. So i'd say right now i need to loose fat.

An hour and a half to be safe, but I have eaten a snack (yogurt, fruit) only an hour before a workout and was fine.

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Please dont listen to him. You need a post workout meal it is essential in repairing the muscle tissue lost after a hard workout. Carbs are also a must post workout as they aid in the recovery of muscle fiber. Have a good protein carb meal following your workouts.Very true. The anti carb brigade have got it wrong. You need to eat the right carbs at right time. Complex carbs late at night are a no no but you need veg and salad after gym wiht some quality protein such as kidneys, fish, eggs, etc. You need to eat more greens in general if you ever feel weak in gym. Graze on fruit throughout morning and add lots of veg to lunch, tea and dinner. B-Hopkins and the Gracie's follow a very similar diet. The differences are that the gracie's have more fruit, and B-Hop cuts out red meat which is a rich source of iron! Here are more details of the most natural foods for the human engine:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolithic_diet