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MILE KITIC
07-07-2008, 06:31 PM
i need the detailed info about whey protein in general...

anyone uses "ultimate prostar whey protein"?

my friend tells me to try it, should i do it? can i use whey proteinss to get high muscle definition with proper diet and training?

thanks!

P4PKING_2008
07-07-2008, 07:13 PM
i need the detailed info about whey protein in general...

anyone uses "ultimate prostar whey protein"?

my friend tells me to try it, should i do it? can i use whey proteinss to get high muscle definition with proper diet and training?

thanks!

Post your video up of you on the bag. I need a good laugh. Chump.

cibola4
07-07-2008, 07:24 PM
whey protein is good for gaining definition and muscle mass if used at the right time...
whey protein itself only lasts between thirty minutes to an hour depended on your metabolism, its best to take before a workout.

another good thing to try if youre looking to gain muscle or definition, is muscle milk, the flavors actually taste good and it works pretty well, but i would only recommend taking it about between one hour or half an hour before bed, because its main purpose is to cut down on the burning up of muscle + fat which is what your body is doing while you sleep...
sleep is a fast for however long you sleep you body goes without eating...muscle milk keeps your body from deteriorating the muscle that you built up that day during work outs and adds protein to your body helping your body replinish and grow.

basically whey before work out
to grow
and tone

mr tricky
07-07-2008, 07:50 PM
whey protein is just good extra protein,


its avrage scoop is about 22g of protein,

a can of tuna is about 11g

so from just 1 drink your geting lots, of protein


tae directly afer workout

J_CON
07-07-2008, 07:55 PM
I use this....http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/cs/gainer.html

Trrmo
07-07-2008, 10:12 PM
I use the prostar whey but only if it looks like I will not be able to meet my daily protein intake goal (which is around .8 grams per pound of body weight) by eating normal foods high in protein. Works out to half a scoop a day for me. Its more of a convenience thing than anything else.

I tried a high protein diet with Ripptoes strength/muscle building routine and got really strong, but put on alot of fat as well as muscle. Eating too much protein powder gives you gas too, a sure sign you are taking too much. I thing protein requirements for athletes (especially beginning bodybuilders) are often highly exaggerated.

My dietary needs though are of a 35 yr old and not a teenager so this needs to be taken into account

MissDeeCole
07-08-2008, 03:28 AM
they say it leads to early fatality

BETTY SWOLLOCKS
07-08-2008, 08:53 AM
Tbh you can get all the protein you need from eating high protein foods! You should only really use stuff like whey protein shakes as a last resort or as Trrmo said for convenience if you cant get your required amount for the day.

Its easy to become reliant on the shakes as your source of protein thus neglecting a healthy balanced diet.

I eat a lot of tuna and cooked chicken which easily meets my daily protein goal and served the right way is delicious aswell as beneficial:D

Tuggers1986
07-08-2008, 08:59 AM
http://bodybuilding.com/store/whey.html

1. What is it and where does it come from?
Out of the many protein sources out there, whey protein is the ultimate. It comes from milk. During the process of turning milk into cheese, whey protein is separated out. Protein can be found in a variety of foods -mainly meats, such as fish, beef, and chicken.

2. What does it do and what scientific studies give evidence to support this?
Whey protein (the highest quality and best form of protein) is incredible stuff. It provides the body with the necessary building blocks to produce amino acids that are used for building muscle tissue. Whoa! Nearly every bodybuilder knows the importance of protein supplementation. Studies have been conducted that compare whey protein to other sources. They have found that whey protein contains the perfect combination of overall amino acid makeup... and in just the right concentrations for optimal performance in the body. Both hormonal and cellular responses seem to be greatly enhanced with supplementation of whey protein, too! Not to mention the benefits whey protein has on the body's immune system according to documented scientific research. Whey protein also plays a role as an antioxidant and helps support a health immune system. Most importantly, consistent whey protein intake coupled with exercise will result in consistent muscle building.

3. Who needs it and what are some symptoms of deficiency?
Whey protein is very, very important for bodybuilders, dieters, and shoot, just about everybody! Since athletes and bodybuilders work out often, protein levels become depleted. By being a direct precursor to building muscle and essential amino acids, such as glutamine (a muscle enhancer, endurance builder, and muscle deterioration reducer), the content from high quality whey protein not only can, but will help one's muscles recover and grow faster by bring up the levels of protein. With dieting and those wishing to lose some extra fat, whey protein can be very useful because a good intake of protein balances blood sugar levels, while carbohydrates cause blood sugar levels to fluctuate. When the blood sugar levels stay balanced, one is not as prone to rampant eating and has more energy and greater fat loss. Whey protein allows a person to control his or her diet effectively. Most people who want to change their body for the better could benefit from whey protein supplementation; however, since protein is naturally found in many food items deficiency is usually not a problem.

4. How much should be taken? Are there any side effects?
Training athletes often consume 25 grams of whey protein per day. Bodybuilders who want serious gains (and are burning serious calories), generally consume 150 grams per day. Extremely high doses of whey protein is not recommended, as this will cause the body's liver to be overloaded and you won't get the same benefits as with a consistent lower amount taken three to five times per day.

sukhenkoy
07-08-2008, 10:45 AM
Tbh you can get all the protein you need from eating high protein foods! You should only really use stuff like whey protein shakes as a last resort or as Trrmo said for convenience if you cant get your required amount for the day.

Its easy to become reliant on the shakes as your source of protein thus neglecting a healthy balanced diet.

I eat a lot of tuna and cooked chicken which easily meets my daily protein goal and served the right way is delicious aswell as beneficial:D

Good post. Stop trying to take the easy way out. Diet right, work hard, and you'll get the muscles you're looking for.

CrysAk
07-08-2008, 11:24 AM
for the majority of people suppliments are a great aid as many just dont have the time and/or money to diet correctly (cooking/preparing) ontop of theyre daily lives of work/ training + free time to chill out

peewee1460
07-08-2008, 10:49 PM
i use and have used whey protiens for years. they are the only way i can gain any wieght. but i do worry about negative effects

mspiegelo
07-09-2008, 02:01 AM
so i am trying to maximize my lean muscle mass and cut out all fat. i have a great diet, low carbs- low calorie, high protein, but i want to take a protein supplement cause i work out a lot and could use the added protein in addition to what i get in my meals..


i want to get a great powder mix to mix with soy milk for added protein (plus i like it better than milk- so much so that i dont drink milk anymore). any recommendations on a really good MULTIPLE SOURCE PROTEIN MIX? i heard its better to get a protein mix that has protein from multiple sources (like wheym soy, and other amino acids) than just whey alone.

ps. I do NOT want to gain any weight so don't recommend me weight gainers, creatine, etc. I am 6'3'' and a very lean 172-178 depending on how much I eat. I aim to fight 165, so I gotta be careful here. thanks guys.

Trrmo
07-09-2008, 09:40 AM
I am 63 and 165 at the moment. Man, I hope you are not cutting fat totally out of your diet! fats are necessary! Can you post your diet?

mspiegelo
07-09-2008, 11:45 AM
hey. i have lots of good fat via fish oil pills (2 pills at breakfast and dinner, 1 at lunch) and peanut butter. I also am starting ripped fuel (no longer has efedra a la Roy Jones scandal)- one pill in the morning, one at lunch. so, here's the diet.

breakfast (this is my weakest meal probably):
Toasted Everything bagel with Hummus
Cafe Americano (thats two espresso shots mixed with hot water) and soy milk

or a Bowl of Cheerios with soy milk

Lunch:
Either 2 Chicken Tacos - these are quality tacos from a local place in my neighborhood. Its not like taco bell or anything. It 's a quality mexican, home made taco made at a stand in a local tortilla factory in my neighborhood, which happens to be predominantly mexican, dominican and puerto rican. it has freshly pressed corn tortillas, lean chicken, tomatoes, lettuce, a little cheese, onion, avocado, cilantro, a little salsa verde, lime juice

or grilled Chicken Salad (Chicken (marinated in lawry's sesame ginger marinade and griled in a little oil on a pan), sliced apple, lettuce, carots, tomatoes, peppers, balsamic vinegar dressing)

Snacks:
Apples in Whole Food's Peanut Butter (my favorite)
or Bananas
or Yogurt
or kiwi
or power crunch bar or a muscle milk

Dinner:
grilled Chicken Salad (Chicken (marinated in lawry's sesame ginger marinade and griled in a little oil on a pan), sliced apple, lettuce, carots, tomatoes, peppers, balsamic vinegar dressing)

I also am a gum freak. I chew a pack of sugar-free Bubble Gum flavored Orbit a day. A friend who was a NY Golden Gloves runner-up told me chewing gum is good for the jaw muscles. this gum tastes so good that i worry about the sugar substitute in it - sorbitol, xylitol and mannitol. probably not bad for weight (chewing gum does encourage digestion), but who knows, they might discover it causes cancer 10 years from now....

anyway, so this is basically my diet, though if I am in Manhattan around dinner time I will sometimes have to settle for something else. I also change it up from time to time to keep my metabolism guessing. I'll treat myself to a big steak or eat pasta, usually whole wheat pasta. Anyway, looking forward to your advice. Thanks.

peewee1460
07-09-2008, 03:37 PM
syntha 6 by bsn is a good protien blend

http://store.bsnonline.net/detail/syntha6.html

and to see the protiens in it:

http://store.bsnonline.net/faqs_expanded.html?id=30&cat=Syntha-6&upc=834266006106

mspiegelo
07-09-2008, 03:59 PM
thanks for the links. i just bought gnc wheybolic extreme 60. 60g protein a serving. way too expensive- like 47 bucks with my gnc card. for now on i may go to vitamin shoppe. damn. anyway, this should last me a month at least, but any recommendations for future purchases is welcomed thanks guys!

mspiegelo
07-09-2008, 11:43 PM
hey. i have lots of good fat via fish oil pills (2 pills at breakfast and dinner, 1 at lunch) and peanut butter. I also am starting ripped fuel (no longer has efedra a la Roy Jones scandal)- one pill in the morning, one at lunch. so, here's the diet.

breakfast (this is my weakest meal probably):
Toasted Everything bagel with Hummus
Cafe Americano (thats two espresso shots mixed with hot water) and soy milk

or a Bowl of Cheerios with soy milk

Lunch:
Either 2 Chicken Tacos - these are quality tacos from a local place in my neighborhood. Its not like taco bell or anything. It 's a quality mexican, home made taco made at a stand in a local tortilla factory in my neighborhood, which happens to be predominantly mexican, dominican and puerto rican. it has freshly pressed corn tortillas, lean chicken, tomatoes, lettuce, a little cheese, onion, avocado, cilantro, a little salsa verde, lime juice

or grilled Chicken Salad (Chicken (marinated in lawry's sesame ginger marinade and griled in a little oil on a pan), sliced apple, lettuce, carots, tomatoes, peppers, balsamic vinegar dressing)

Snacks:
Apples in Whole Food's Peanut Butter (my favorite)
or Bananas
or Yogurt
or kiwi
or power crunch bar or a muscle milk

Dinner:
grilled Chicken Salad (Chicken (marinated in lawry's sesame ginger marinade and griled in a little oil on a pan), sliced apple, lettuce, carots, tomatoes, peppers, balsamic vinegar dressing)

I also am a gum freak. I chew a pack of sugar-free Bubble Gum flavored Orbit a day. A friend who was a NY Golden Gloves runner-up told me chewing gum is good for the jaw muscles. this gum tastes so good that i worry about the sugar substitute in it - sorbitol, xylitol and mannitol. probably not bad for weight (chewing gum does encourage digestion), but who knows, they might discover it causes cancer 10 years from now....

anyway, so this is basically my diet, though if I am in Manhattan around dinner time I will sometimes have to settle for something else. I also change it up from time to time to keep my metabolism guessing. I'll treat myself to a big steak or eat pasta, usually whole wheat pasta. Anyway, looking forward to your advice. Thanks.

Bump. I'd love to hear your evaluation trrmo. I printed that out to give to my trainer today, but he doesn't want me worrying about weight till I get closer to fighting, so he wouldn't even look at it to make a point.

Anyway, I weighed in at 173 today and will probably be 170 by the end of the week. I usually gain back at least 5 pounds over the weekend though when I am not going crazy in the gym. your thoughts???

PS. I bought Wheybolic protein today and it tastes like doo doo, which coincidentally, is exactly what it makes you do....

Detroit101
07-10-2008, 12:23 AM
thanks for the links. i just bought gnc wheybolic extreme 60. 60g protein a serving. way too expensive- like 47 bucks with my gnc card. for now on i may go to vitamin shoppe. damn. anyway, this should last me a month at least, but any recommendations for future purchases is welcomed thanks guys!

Wheybolic is good stuff.......I work at GNC too so i have to say it! However; the best protein you can buy over the counter is Isopure by natures best, this my friend, is the truth and i have enough factual data to make Stephen Hawking **** himself!

please ask me some questions.....i would love to set the record straight.....

the supplement threads on this forum are often a good example of the blind leading the blind.....

mspiegelo
07-10-2008, 01:14 AM
cool. good to know. so why is isopure the best? how do you feel about ripped fuel vs. hydroxocut for cutting fat away leaving only sculpted lean muscle mass. i work out 6 days a week (train boxing 3 and run on off days, rest sunday) and my diet is posted in case that has to be taken into account.

my goal, stay lean as possible, cut weight when i have to to make 165 (not until januaryish) and maintain my weight now (even if i gain muscle mass). i also want to get as strong and fast as possible at this weight. and i'd like this supplement to make me lots of money too!!!!

thanks broseph!

Trrmo
07-10-2008, 10:14 AM
Bump. I'd love to hear your evaluation trrmo. I printed that out to give to my trainer today, but he doesn't want me worrying about weight till I get closer to fighting, so he wouldn't even look at it to make a point.

Anyway, I weighed in at 173 today and will probably be 170 by the end of the week. I usually gain back at least 5 pounds over the weekend though when I am not going crazy in the gym. your thoughts???

PS. I bought Wheybolic protein today and it tastes like doo doo, which coincidentally, is exactly what it makes you do....

Hi, I will first say that I am not an expert on nutrition of have any qualifications, the following is based on my own research and experience. I try to keep it simple and dont eat any special foods any mainly look at total calories and total protein/carb/fat amounts for the day.

See my post here for further info

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=192687&highlight=loosing+weight

PM me If you (or anyone else) want a copy of my basic nutrition chart and I will send it to you. I did it in Ms Excel and it automatically calculates the cals, prot/carb/fat based on different food I eat. All you do is estimate (but better to use scales or measuring cup) the quantity and fill in the chart

Cheers:boxing: