View Full Version : Rampage Was Robbed


Bea5T
07-06-2008, 12:47 AM
wow..........

pesticid
07-06-2008, 12:48 AM
Either a draw or a win for rampage unless u give 10-7 for the second round.

GreatestIam
07-06-2008, 12:50 AM
i had 2nd 10-8

Stab Judah
07-06-2008, 12:51 AM
All I was able to see was the 1st and 2nd was it really that bad?

Bea5T
07-06-2008, 12:52 AM
rampaged controled the last 3 rounds

he was pot shotting griffin all day long while standing while griffing was just doing those leg kicks.

popkins99
07-06-2008, 12:52 AM
like pesticid said, it was either a draw or a win for rampage.

sunthunder
07-06-2008, 12:53 AM
I thought Rampage won and gave him rounds 1,4 and 5, but by no means was that a robbery, that could easily justifiably have been given to either fighter. In the later rounds I agree that Rampage was more aggressive and effective with his hands but Forrest's leg kicks throughout all those rounds were arguably far more effective than any of Rampage's punches (excluding his first rounds knockdown).

Dirt E Gomez
07-06-2008, 12:55 AM
I don't have a problem with Forrest getting the W...

But one of the judges had it 49-46.... that's some bull ****.

th4l3pr3ch4un
07-06-2008, 12:58 AM
very close fight but very far from a robbery. Go watch the hammil bisping fight, that was a robbery.

American_Ninja
07-06-2008, 12:58 AM
Bull****, he wasn't robbed. Forrest took his leg in the 2nd, and fought smart.
No robbery.

MatsideObserver
07-06-2008, 12:59 AM
lol. . . .that scoring was a joke.
I am sitting here expecting maybe a split decision and I hear a 49-46 score.

That is bogus!

1st Rampage 10-9
2nd Forest 10-8
then I have to give Rampage 2 of last three rounds

47-47

Don Corleone
07-06-2008, 01:00 AM
I expected the fight to be a little closer then what the judges scored. I even had Rampage winning or atleast a tie but again it could've really went either way but the way the judges were scoring it were awful. I think they really need to get better judges because the one's they have are really pathetic...49-46? Overall an allright fight but the scoring IMO was off...

Bea5T
07-06-2008, 01:00 AM
Bull****, he wasn't robbed. Forrest took his leg in the 2nd, and fought smart.
No robbery.


too bad one round doesnt win you the fight


you CANNOT tell me forrest was getting better of the exchanged in the later rounds

rampage was killing him with the hooks and uppers

Gareth Ivanovic
07-06-2008, 01:01 AM
What happened I didn't watch the fight. Was Rampage just lethargic and didn't take Griffin as seriously as he had Liddell and Henderson? Or did Forrest just bring his game up a couple notches?

American_Ninja
07-06-2008, 01:04 AM
too bad one round doesnt win you the fight


you CANNOT tell me forrest was getting better of the exchanged in the later rounds

rampage was killing him with the hooks and uppers

He wasn't killing him with anything, a good uppercut early on, Rampage was very inconsistent especially after Forrest hurt his knee.

MatsideObserver
07-06-2008, 01:07 AM
Forest fought a good fight.
Attacked the leg.
Took his shots and ran from the counterpunch.
Had one dominating round on the ground.

I could buy a draw - but those scores were a joke.

Don Corleone
07-06-2008, 01:07 AM
It's not really that he didn't take him seriously but it was just that Griffin hurt him in the second right with a kick to the leg and it motivated Griffin and got some momentum for him in the fight...But I would still score the fight atleast a tie... When a fight is this close you should look at the contender and ask yourself if he did enough to win the title of the champion or not...IMO, he didn't dominate Quinton other then the second round...

th4l3pr3ch4un
07-06-2008, 01:08 AM
What happened I didn't watch the fight. Was Rampage just lethargic and didn't take Griffin as seriously as he had Liddell and Henderson? Or did Forrest just bring his game up a couple notches?

Forrest in my opinion was the busier fighter, and also fought the smarter fight. He lost in some of the exchanges but never gave rampage the chance to put the real damage on him. In the end Rampage though i would not have necessarily argued a decision in his favor because he is the champion and it was a close fight, he just did not do enough to win.

V-Money
07-06-2008, 01:10 AM
I scored it for Rampage. I could even understand a tie but the judge that had it 49-46 Griffin... wtf????

jedihillis
07-06-2008, 01:12 AM
Are you guys serious? Rampage was robbed? Rampage even admitted he got his ass whopped. It was close at points but Rampage did nowhere near enough to win.

MatsideObserver
07-06-2008, 01:18 AM
Rampage definitely didn't get his ass whooped.

I was actually shocked Forest could have the dominant position for that much time in the second and not put him away - that was the only time in the fight Rampage was in a bad position.

Forest fought a good fight - but he didn't whoop anyone's ass by any stretch of the imagination.

th4l3pr3ch4un
07-06-2008, 01:22 AM
Rampage definitely didn't get his ass whooped.

I was actually shocked Forest could have the dominant position for that much time in the second and not put him away - that was the only time in the fight Rampage was in a bad position.

Forest fought a good fight - but he didn't whoop anyone's ass by any stretch of the imagination.

lol only time huh??? how about when forrest had that triangle locked up... or when those leg kicks had jacksons legs buckled almost to the max, he came into that next round a bit off to say the least. Forrest took his punishment too throughout but Rampage never capitolized when it mattered most. He just could not finish Forrest tonight.

Brian13
07-06-2008, 01:22 AM
Forrest won the fight anyway

Texanballer
07-06-2008, 01:38 AM
i had it 3-2 Griffin. 4-1 maybe. No way Rampage won that.

dog1dog2
07-06-2008, 01:48 AM
This is definitely a case of some people instantly discrediting themselves by saying "Rampage was robbed" or "Forrest only won 1 round." I mean, it was a close-ish fight, and I have no problem with folks thinking it could have been a draw or a SD win for Rampage, but don't expect anyone with even a shred of objectivity who actually watched the fight to take you seriously with the "robbed" or "Forrest only won 1" BS lines.....

It was a good fight. Rampage rocked and downed FG seriously one time, and landed about a dozen really good shots throughout the course of the fight. Forrest was by far the busier fighter, did substantial damage to Rampage's leg, nearly had a couple of submissions, and had the only dominant round of the fight. Close-ish win.....but clearly not a robbery by any stretch of the imagination.

Irish0910
07-06-2008, 02:41 AM
It was a robbery. Forrest didnt land **** except for a couple leg kicks. MMA needs COMPUBOX!

aristotlemoses
07-06-2008, 03:15 AM
theres defintly gunna be a rematch,

Point Blank
07-06-2008, 04:58 AM
what can u say. rampage is not welcome by the sport because he is black. i know that sounds stupid but i remember when he knocked out liddell dana white's face had the expression of feeling disgust. he never hyped jackson that much not unlike liddell. what can u say it's a white sport. no pun intended but that's just the way the sport is represented.

MetalVomit
07-06-2008, 10:34 AM
I thought Forrest clearly won rounds 2,4 and 5. Possibly 3 even.

Don Corleone
07-06-2008, 10:50 AM
what can u say. rampage is not welcome by the sport because he is black. i know that sounds stupid but i remember when he knocked out liddell dana white's face had the expression of feeling disgust. he never hyped jackson that much not unlike liddell. what can u say it's a white sport. no pun intended but that's just the way the sport is represented.

Not neccesarily because Liddell was the face of the UFC and Jackson was previously from Pride so it's right to say that Dana favours his original UFC fighters, not because they're white but because they have been with him before the Pride fighters were so it's natural to favour them...One thing I would want to add is that from the judges to Joe Rogan, there was some bias in the fight that was really favouring Girffin. In the 5th round or so, Rogan was saying that "Griffin definitly won this" even before the round was over and was always on Griffin's side. I don't think it has anything to do with colour but more to do with trying to encourage original UFC champions over Pride champions and also reigning a new champion...

x-PeROxiDE-x
07-06-2008, 11:04 AM
rampaged controled the last 3 rounds

he was pot shotting griffin all day long while standing while griffing was just doing those leg kicks.

Rampage was being made to miss by Griffins clever defense.

And those legs kicks you were so quick to discredit, won the fight for him.

Constant controlled agression was what Rampage had to do to win, and Forrest knew this, so he said he would keep his distance with kicks, and back away from punches and land the counters, which is exactly what he did.

Rampage was doing a lot of ineffective work. Every time he landed something Griffin stepped back and countered, apart from the first round.

I had Griffin winning 3 rounds to 2, with a 2 point margin due to the 10-8 second round.

sunthunder
07-06-2008, 12:09 PM
Anyone saying "all Forrest was doing was those leg kicks" clearly has never taken a leg kick from someone who knows how to throw one. Leg kicks can end fights, they seriously mess up your legs. Forrest has fractured someones thigh bone with one leg kick. Now imagine taking those over and over again.

Also watch Crocop vs Yoshida. Crocop landed about six leg kicks and Yoshida was done, he suffered a fractured thigh bone.

ABOSWORTH
07-06-2008, 12:30 PM
lol. . . .that scoring was a joke.
I am sitting here expecting maybe a split decision and I hear a 49-46 score.

That is bogus!

1st Rampage 10-9
2nd Forest 10-8
then I have to give Rampage 2 of last three rounds

47-47

I was expecting a SD too. Those scores were ridiculous and I thought Griffin fought a good fight but lost! He was doing some damage with those leg kicks. Forrest has a good chin, he really took some shots and just kept coming.

I think the wrong guy got the nod. Draw or SD for rampage is what I saw..

ABOSWORTH
07-06-2008, 12:32 PM
Anyone saying "all Forrest was doing was those leg kicks" clearly has never taken a leg kick from someone who knows how to throw one. Leg kicks can end fights, they seriously mess up your legs. Forrest has fractured someones thigh bone with one leg kick. Now imagine taking those over and over again.

Also watch Crocop vs Yoshida. Crocop landed about six leg kicks and Yoshida was done, he suffered a fractured thigh bone.

Leg kicks are no joke. If you can't walk, you can't fight. Jackson will be limping for a few weeks. He was limping at the end of the fight and in between rounds. It was a really good fight.

res
07-06-2008, 12:56 PM
Leg kicks should be seen as a big deal if they can take someone out, if not, they shouldn't be. Your legs are a relatively difficult part of your body to defend and anyone can land a leg kick. It is far more difficult to land a head shot. Leg kicks should be taken seriously in scoring when they are able to do serious immediate damage and that is it.

aristotlemoses
07-06-2008, 01:21 PM
ha who was that dude bas rutten beat on leg kicks.

one-Punch
07-06-2008, 01:30 PM
That is a pretty bias statement to say rampage got robbed. Obviously you are a Rampage fan, cause Forrest won that fight hands down. Forrest aggressed the fight, he countered, his defence was top notch, and he is one tough sob and took some pretty hard shots from Rampage. Rampage did nothing to even deserve a win in that fight, all he did was try and knock Forrest out, and he got played. Even Forrest’s ground game was looking good. Before I even watched this fight, I thought Rampage was going to win with an easy knockout, but that was far from the actual outcome…

number6
07-06-2008, 01:57 PM
I think this was a poor performance by Jackson, even though he had his moments. Rampage looked lethargic throughout the fight.

I think Forrest faught a smart fight, his defence was good and he used his reach to good advantage.
He outworked Jackson in most of the rounds even in the first up untill he got rocked and almost got stopped.

This was a close fight but Forrest won fair and square in my opinion.

ABOSWORTH
07-06-2008, 02:30 PM
That is a pretty bias statement to say rampage got robbed. Obviously you are a Rampage fan, cause Forrest won that fight hands down. Forrest aggressed the fight, he countered, his defence was top notch, and he is one tough sob and took some pretty hard shots from Rampage. Rampage did nothing to even deserve a win in that fight, all he did was try and knock Forrest out, and he got played. Even Forrest’s ground game was looking good. Before I even watched this fight, I thought Rampage was going to win with an easy knockout, but that was far from the actual outcome…

Nah, I wanted Griffin to win but I thought Jackson won. So my bias was towards Forrest. Forrest fought a good fight but I don't think he won, especially by the wide margins that the judges had it. :rolleyes:

Afterglow
07-06-2008, 04:44 PM
rampage is not welcome by the sport because he is black.

How about Anderson Silva? Is he not welcome? Kevin Randleman would be more welcome if he learned how to pee in a cup.

i know that sounds stupid

:stupid:

but i remember when he knocked out liddell dana white's face had the expression of feeling disgust.

That is because he is a UFC guy and Page isn't.

Chuck is Dana's big money maker.

That and he is Dana's boy.

It has nothing to do with Chuck being white.

he never hyped jackson that much not unlike liddell.

This was Page's 4th fight in the UFC. Comming into the UFC, the casual UFC fan probably had no idea who he was.

Chuck had several fights under his belt while in the spotlight, in the UFC before he ever got a title shot.




what can u say it's a white sport.

No it's not.

no pun intended but that's just the way the sport is represented.

:bottle:

Rampage took Forrest lightly. And he got beat.

Those kicks were really the killer in the fight. After Page took that shot to the knee, he lost alot of mobility. And he was limping alot.

Forrest outworked him, and worked a very smart gamplan.

He won fair and square.

We want Floyd
07-06-2008, 05:07 PM
I think this was a poor performance by Jackson, even though he had his moments. Rampage looked lethargic throughout the fight.

I think Forrest faught a smart fight, his defence was good and he used his reach to good advantage.
He outworked Jackson in most of the rounds even in the first up untill he got rocked and almost got stopped.

This was a close fight but Forrest won fair and square in my opinion.Jackson looked lethargic because of those kicks to his thighs. After his left leg took its beating, it looked like he had cement for feet. Griffin was simply the quicker fighter! Had nothin' to do with being lethargic.

Actually Griffin kinda reminds me of Pacquiao, always busy, going in and out, in and out.

twospeed99
07-06-2008, 05:13 PM
Split decision for Rampage at the least, he admits to taking the entire second off to let his leg recover and Forest still didn't do **** other than rub titties with him.As far as Rampage's in ring interview he was just showing class, his two post fight interviews in the dressing room and at the press conference he said he thought he won and was shocked by the unanimous decision. There is a wicked site www.fightmetric.com that scores fights using all criteria and they had Rampage winning, SI had Page winning. Forrest is Dana's US poster boy as Bisping is his UK boy, look forward to the rematch

number6
07-06-2008, 05:19 PM
Jackson looked lethargic because of those kicks to his thighs. After his left leg took its beating, it looked like he had cement for feet. Griffin was simply the quicker fighter! Had nothin' to do with being lethargic.

Actually Griffin kinda reminds me of Pacquiao, always busy, going in and out, in and out.

Fair point about the leg kicks, but Rampage didn't look too hungry before the fight and when he took Forrest down he didn't look dangerous with the ground and pound.He looked a touch flat to me.As though he has underestimated Forrest.

Not that im tryin to take anything away from Forrests performance, he did a fantastic job. He was in great shape as usual, looked like he wanted it more, came in with a good game plan and stuck to it.

Im guessing Rampage thought this was going to be an easy nights work.

vinnie7731
07-06-2008, 05:28 PM
That is a pretty bias statement to say rampage got robbed. Obviously you are a Rampage fan, cause Forrest won that fight hands down. Forrest aggressed the fight, he countered, his defence was top notch, and he is one tough sob and took some pretty hard shots from Rampage. Rampage did nothing to even deserve a win in that fight, all he did was try and knock Forrest out, and he got played. Even Forrest’s ground game was looking good. Before I even watched this fight, I thought Rampage was going to win with an easy knockout, but that was far from the actual outcome…

finally someone that makes sense. i just watched the fight again and forrest won without a doubt. i agree with you 100%

res
07-06-2008, 09:15 PM
How about Anderson Silva? Is he not welcome? Kevin Randleman would be more welcome if he learned how to pee in a cup.


Uhhh, Anderson Silva isn't Black, he's Brazilian, there have always been Brazilians in there.

dog1dog2
07-06-2008, 09:58 PM
Uhhh, Anderson Silva isn't Black, he's Brazilian, there have always been Brazilians in there.

News flash: There are black Brazilians......somewhere in the neighborhood of 13 million of them, actually.....

Don Corleone
07-06-2008, 10:03 PM
News flash: There are black Brazilians......somewhere in the neighborhood of 13 million of them, actually.....

Ye but he's not considered black. He's considered Brazilian. The colour of your skin doesn't always label you as black or white...It's your ethnicity...

dog1dog2
07-06-2008, 10:13 PM
Ye but he's not considered black. He's considered Brazilian. The colour of your skin doesn't always label you as black or white...It's your ethnicity...

No, Brazilian is his nationality, just like Rampage Jackson and Forrest Griffin are both American by nationality. Brazilian just means he's from Brazil, a country that is comprised of multiple ethnic groups....including "blacks."

Rafael Benitez
07-06-2008, 10:31 PM
He was ****. The fat cunt rocked the quilo everytime h boxed on inside but couldn't carry on his flurry. 9/10 a well schoole boxer woul easily KOan MMA bum

Kakutogi-Gumi
07-06-2008, 10:55 PM
It was a robbery. Forrest didnt land **** except for a couple leg kicks. MMA needs COMPUBOX!

http://fightmetric.com/fights/Griffin-Rampage.html

I don't mind either of them winning the fight. It was a great fight.

The judging, on the other hand was for ****.

MOREBASS
07-07-2008, 02:45 AM
^ That fightmetric analysis had Rampage winning.


It was a close fight but Rampage landed the harder cleaner shots. You don't take a Championship from someone like that. Forrest has a great chin, but was wobbled on several occasions.

You could tell he didn't even feel that he won convincingly, because immediately after the fight, before Joe Rogan even asked any questions...Forrest took the mic and said that they had to have a rematch.

That right there speaks volumes.


You have to take the belt from the Champ. He didn't do that IMO.

kayjay
07-07-2008, 08:29 AM
Is it cos I is black?

COLINSRI
07-07-2008, 08:32 AM
what can u say. rampage is not welcome by the sport because he is black. i know that sounds stupid but i remember when he knocked out liddell dana white's face had the expression of feeling disgust. he never hyped jackson that much not unlike liddell. what can u say it's a white sport. no pun intended but that's just the way the sport is represented.

Whats this BS.....are you crazy?

Rampage is welcome by the sport and has brought huge attention to ufc...

...stop talking like a pr1ck.

Afterglow
07-07-2008, 09:18 AM
Uhhh, Anderson Silva isn't Black, he's Brazilian, there have always been Brazilians in there.

Being a Brazilian is a nationality. Not an ethnicity.

In Brazil he is a black man.

LOOK AT HIM!

If he were born in Atlanta and had the last name Washington. His ass would be called black.

So don't try to even argue that.

res
07-07-2008, 10:06 AM
Ye but he's not considered black. He's considered Brazilian. The colour of your skin doesn't always label you as black or white...It's your ethnicity...


Yeah, it's an important point since the relationships between groups in countries is "cultural" not actually "racial", race is a biological concept that really only matters in scientific discussions. "Black" in America is a culture, and must be distinguished from "of African ancestry".

WiganScott
07-07-2008, 10:36 AM
Are you guys serious? Rampage was robbed? Rampage even admitted he got his ass whopped. It was close at points but Rampage did nowhere near enough to win.

I agree.
It's scored on Striking. For every one of Rampages big hits forrest got 3/4 jabs in and a kick atleast.

Grappling. Forrest had the better of that.

Agression. Forrest did most of the attacking, jab move, kick, move. Rampage was just small bursts and infrequent at that.

Octogan control. Again forrest was generally the one going forward, and in the middle, hitting a moving.

The scored didn't reflect how close the fight was but Rampage didn't do enough to win or draw the fight.

He even said so himself.

the traveler
07-07-2008, 11:13 AM
Uhhh, Anderson Silva isn't Black, he's Brazilian, there have always been Brazilians in there.

It's not about that. It's about your skin color. Your race. When people look at Anderson Silva they see a black man, which is what he is. They don't see the last name and give him an excuse because he is brazilian and not an African American. You're judged by the color of your skin.

In Brazil, they don't judge the blacks there by their nationality, either, they judge them by their race. They call them blacks and ******s. they don't first label them as brazillians. It's the same everywhere.

MetalVomit
07-07-2008, 04:40 PM
I agree.
It's scored on Striking. For every one of Rampages big hits forrest got 3/4 jabs in and a kick atleast.

Grappling. Forrest had the better of that.

Agression. Forrest did most of the attacking, jab move, kick, move. Rampage was just small bursts and infrequent at that.

Octogan control. Again forrest was generally the one going forward, and in the middle, hitting a moving.

The scored didn't reflect how close the fight was but Rampage didn't do enough to win or draw the fight.

He even said so himself.


I agree. Forrest did a little bit more of everything in that fight than Rampage did. I am almost shocked at how many people think Rampage should have gotten the decision. What did he do, aside from land some clean shots? Landing a few clean shots is great.....if you A.Knock the guy out, or B. Use that momentum to do more in the fight than just land those shots. Rampage did neither. Good fight, the better man on Saturday night won the fight.

one-Punch
07-08-2008, 12:56 AM
Nah, I wanted Griffin to win but I thought Jackson won. So my bias was towards Forrest. Forrest fought a good fight but I don't think he won, especially by the wide margins that the judges had it. :rolleyes:

I seriously have no idea how anyone could think Rampage won this fight. He came into this fight thinking he was gonna knock Forrest out. And that's defiantly what he tried for, cause all he did was try for the big bad bomb, I did not see one nice combo from Rampage, his performance was crap, and HE lost the fight. Congrads to Forrest, cause he defiantly deserved the win. Even when Rampage got Forrest to the ground, his performance was far from impressive.

res
07-08-2008, 01:35 AM
It's not about that. It's about your skin color. Your race. When people look at Anderson Silva they see a black man, which is what he is. They don't see the last name and give him an excuse because he is brazilian and not an African American. You're judged by the color of your skin.

In Brazil, they don't judge the blacks there by their nationality, either, they judge them by their race. They call them blacks and ******s. they don't first label them as brazillians. It's the same everywhere.


Not his name. By "culture" I mean behavior, attitude, lifestyle. Think about Obama, he is where he is in this election because culturally, he has a whole lot of white influence on him. He was raised by a white mother. He comes off that way, he isn't the stereotype of a black man at all, and that is why he is acceptable. It is not a coincidence that the first Black candidate for president is this type of person when 99% of Blacks in America are diferent from him in these ways. Now you can certainly be smart and be consistent with the stereotype of a Black man, look at Cornel West, absolutely Black, but also an intellectual. At this point in time however, someone that was culturally Black couldn't be where Obama is (too scary) but someone who is only racially Black can. There is a difference.

Afterglow
07-08-2008, 08:34 AM
I seriously have no idea how anyone could think Rampage won this fight. He came into this fight thinking he was gonna knock Forrest out. And that's defiantly what he tried for, cause all he did was try for the big bad bomb, I did not see one nice combo from Rampage, his performance was crap, and HE lost the fight. Congrads to Forrest, cause he defiantly deserved the win. Even when Rampage got Forrest to the ground, his performance was far from impressive.

I pretty much agree with you.

I think Page thought he was gonna get to just throw bombs with Forrest and knock him out. And he found out that he was fighting someone who actually wasn't gonna do that. And got beat because of it.

MatsideObserver
07-08-2008, 09:22 AM
I don't know how anyone thinks Forest won the fight. He had one good round and probably won one other. No way he won that fight and certainly not by the ridiculous scores that were announced.

Rampage didn't fight a good fight (I would agree with you on that) but Forest didn't do enough to take his title.

That was bogus.

Afterglow
07-08-2008, 09:27 AM
Actually Forrest did more than enough to win that fight. Page didn't.

Forrest controlled the pace of the fight and pretty much wherever it went, it went there because Forrest wanted it to go there.

Besides the knockdown. Page didn't do much of anything in my eyes. I just don't see how anyone could have thought his punches were enough.

Griffin's Kicks>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Page's punches.

MatsideObserver
07-08-2008, 11:01 AM
Not even Forest believes that.

Who wins a supposedly decisive 49-46; 48-46; 48-46 bout and the first words out of his mouth are rematch.

It almost seemed like he wanted to apologize for being a part of such a facade.

I could see a draw because I think you could give Forest a 10-8 second. I read somewhere that some of the Judges had Forest winning the 1st which is laughable.

I think Forest did a lot better than expected and Page did a lot worse than expected but I still didn't see a Forest Victory and certainly not a UD.

Afterglow
07-08-2008, 04:14 PM
You ever think Forrest just wants to fight him again? And make it more decisive?

I myself don't exactly like some of the scoring. But Forrest still won that fight.

It was a close fight. And I think Griffin's expression right before the announcment was one of someone who thought that since it was somewhat close they were just gonna give it to Page. But thankfully they gave it to the person who actually won the fight.

one-Punch
07-08-2008, 08:32 PM
Not even Forest believes that.

Who wins a supposedly decisive 49-46; 48-46; 48-46 bout and the first words out of his mouth are rematch.

It almost seemed like he wanted to apologize for being a part of such a facade.

I could see a draw because I think you could give Forest a 10-8 second. I read somewhere that some of the Judges had Forest winning the 1st which is laughable.

I think Forest did a lot better than expected and Page did a lot worse than expected but I still didn't see a Forest Victory and certainly not a UD.


Then you have really crappy judgement on mma fighting if you think he won. How the hell can you say that Forrest only won, one round. What a load of crap, go watch the fight again and try and re-evaluate what you think cause your bs aint getting past me...
And afterglow, I disagree about the impressions that the fighters were giving at the end of the last round. Look at Rampages face at the end of the fight, he knew what the decision was, and he looked disgusted with himself...

Blair_Wells#32
07-08-2008, 11:28 PM
im a little late 2 this thread, but i had rampage winning 3-2, everything Griffin threw was mostly blocked or avoided, except a few leg kicks, while Rampage rocked Griffin on several occasions.
while Griffin was on mount in the 2nd round he didn't do much 2 hurt rampage so i didn't think it deserved a 10-8.

BALLISTIC
07-09-2008, 03:32 AM
no one in the MMA could kick like cung le

if that was cung le kicking rampage it would've been over...

rampage should've won..

res
07-09-2008, 06:30 AM
Actually Forrest did more than enough to win that fight. Page didn't.

Forrest controlled the pace of the fight and pretty much wherever it went, it went there because Forrest wanted it to go there.

Besides the knockdown. Page didn't do much of anything in my eyes. I just don't see how anyone could have thought his punches were enough.

Griffin's Kicks>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Page's punches.

lol Man legs kicks don't mean anything unless they take you out, or almost take you out, anyone can throw a leg kick.

Equilibrium
07-09-2008, 06:56 AM
I scored it a draw. I scored the fight like this:

Round 1: 10-9 Rampage
Round 2: 10-8 Griffin
Round 3: 10-9 Rampage
Round 4: 10-9 Rampage
Round 5: 10-9 Griffin(It could have went both ways, Rampage landed more but Griffin was more agressive.)


47-47

Now the only reason i scored the second round 10-8 is because didn't do anything during that round but it's not like Griffin did much damage or anything really good.

I honestly have no ****ing idea how some judges gave the first round to Griffin, what a load of bull****.

Afterglow
07-09-2008, 09:35 AM
lol Man legs kicks don't mean anything unless they take you out, or almost take you out, anyone can throw a leg kick.


Anyone can throw a leg kick? I bet if I tried that on Page I would have been caught with a right hook.

Those kicks also injured Page.

Blair_Wells#32
07-09-2008, 10:31 AM
was bored found this on fightline.com

After watching UFC 86 this past weekend, Light Heavyweight contender Lyoto Machida had some opinions of his own. “Quinton defeated Forrest, but they give it to Forrest.” Machida told Brazilian magazine Tatame. He went on to say that he believes the UFC prefers to have Chuck Liddell as the Light Heavyweight champion because of his marketability.
“I think that now they [the UFC] are going to put him [Forrest Griffin] against Chuck Liddell to him to take the belt again.” Machida went on to say.

The result of the main event at UFC 86 has been a topic of much debate since Griffin was named victorious over former UFC Light Heavyweight Champion Quinton Jackson.

Machida is currently waiting for his next opponent. Many feel that he’s only one win away from getting a title shot of his own.

Afterglow
07-09-2008, 11:04 AM
If Forrest fights Chuck Like he did Page. There is a chance he could decision Chuck.

But that is just my personal opinion.

But then again. The way he fought Page could have been a one time only thing. And if he fought Chuck he goes back to doing what he does, and gets knocked out.

ABOSWORTH
07-09-2008, 12:20 PM
was bored found this on fightline.com

After watching UFC 86 this past weekend, Light Heavyweight contender Lyoto Machida had some opinions of his own. “Quinton defeated Forrest, but they give it to Forrest.” Machida told Brazilian magazine Tatame. He went on to say that he believes the UFC prefers to have Chuck Liddell as the Light Heavyweight champion because of his marketability.
“I think that now they [the UFC] are going to put him [Forrest Griffin] against Chuck Liddell to him to take the belt again.” Machida went on to say.

The result of the main event at UFC 86 has been a topic of much debate since Griffin was named victorious over former UFC Light Heavyweight Champion Quinton Jackson.

Machida is currently waiting for his next opponent. Many feel that he’s only one win away from getting a title shot of his own.


I want to see Machida get a title shot. He is going to be the next LHW champion of the world IMO. Some people say he is boring but I love watching him nullify his opponents' strategy. He completely dismantled and frustrated Ortiz. Machida is a very well rounded fighter.

MetalVomit
07-09-2008, 07:15 PM
Machida is tough, he ran from Tito a little much in that fight, but deserved the win.

ABOSWORTH
07-10-2008, 12:12 PM
Machida is tough, he ran from Tito a little much in that fight, but deserved the win.

Yeah, he did run a bit but he totally nullified anything Tito tried to do.

Did you see those double leg kicks he was landing? Very quick.