View Full Version : What if...........Chuck ends up fighting Yoshi?


Seraph_17
08-07-2003, 03:01 PM
Chuck no doubht has one of the best takedown defences in MMA. But then Yoshida is a judo gold medalist and it seems he has adjusted well to his no-gi opponents. As good at takedown D Chuck is I can't see him avoiding all of Yoshis takedowns, after all Busta/Vitor/Randy took down chuck and they are hardly olympic judo standard.

Howvever I also think on the ground Chuck might still be able to cause some damage by hitting punch inexpierenced yoshi from his guard, allowing him more chances to get up and go for a KO standing.

Opinions?

purerockfury
08-07-2003, 03:51 PM
yeah but a well placed punch to yoshida will knock his ass out

Seraph_17
08-07-2003, 04:04 PM
LMFAO pretty funny purerock. Maybe he'll throw a high kick like he did against Satake.

KimuraMan
08-07-2003, 04:25 PM
Its great how everyone thinks that because yoshida is a pure judo stylist that he has no defence against someone who can strike. Judo's purpose is to defend yourself against aggresive attackers, there arent many out there more aggressive then Liddel. If he gets taken down expect him to get subbed, if chuck can keep the first entire round standing he will will by tko.

Seraph_17
08-07-2003, 06:13 PM
Kimura Chuck is not usually very aggressive at all, he picks his shots very carefull with well timed couter blows.

I don't think its possible for Chuck to keep it standing with Yoshida for an entire round, his best hope standing would be to KO Yoshi as he comes in for a takedown.

purerockfury
08-07-2003, 07:29 PM
chuck needs to get by overeem first

DragonZero
08-08-2003, 01:23 AM
if it stays standing up chuck wins if it goes to the ground yoshida wins

Seraph_17
08-08-2003, 07:18 AM
I disagree. I think if it goes to the ground Chuck could punch from his guard and hurt Yoshida who is inexpierenced about getting hit, or he could scramble and stand back up.

DragonZero
08-08-2003, 07:51 AM
think about it yoshida is a master grappler chuck would be in his world on the ground

Seraph_17
08-08-2003, 10:58 AM
He would be in Yoshidaas game for sure but that doesn't mean he couldn't survive and get back up, Busta is a much better sub guy then Yoshida and Chuck got up just fine against him.

Bluecifer
08-08-2003, 01:17 PM
Yoshida will get brutally oil checked.

Magic Man
08-08-2003, 08:37 PM
I dont ever see this match happening for some reason.

Bluecifer
08-12-2003, 06:45 PM
In a REAL mma match Chuck would ****ing KILL Yocheata.

Tanner Rhoden
08-12-2003, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by Blue Dawg
In a REAL mma match Chuck would ****ing KILL Yocheata.

Kempo Chris
08-12-2003, 08:01 PM
Lidell would knock the **** out of Yoshida if they fought

realkaps
08-12-2003, 09:45 PM
Tamura rocked his snot box a few times, Chuck by brutal rapage....

DragonZero
08-13-2003, 08:10 AM
seriously i think that would be a tough fight for liddell but only if it stayed on the ground

KimuraMan
08-13-2003, 08:57 PM
Yeah I agree, on the ground any of them would have trouble against him. Yoshida goes for the sub quickly, probably from competing in Judo where your time on the ground is extremely short.

purerockfury
08-14-2003, 10:47 PM
yeah and rampage would slam his ass in to the mat pretty quick

Seraph_17
08-15-2003, 06:04 AM
LOL No Purerockfury, no way Rampage would slam his ass, Yoshida was no.1 guy at judo in the world and will have fought some of the worlds best at slams and throws, if anyone is getting slammed in a Rampage/Yoshi situation, its Rampage.

DragonZero
08-15-2003, 07:02 AM
i'd be willing to bet actual money that if they fight rampage will slam him not once but twice any takers?

Seraph_17
08-15-2003, 07:32 AM
@I never bet money, but I will take a sportsman bet on that Dragon? No way Rampage can slam Yoshida, the guy was once no.1 in the world at judo, I'm sure hes fought people who can slam a lot better then Rampage.

DragonZero
08-15-2003, 07:34 AM
ok friendly bet then i know yoshida is an expert and all that but strength can be a big factor

Seraph_17
08-15-2003, 09:23 AM
Sure strength can be a big factor, but tecnique is a much bigger factor, and I'm sure Yoshi wil have fought people in judo as strong as Rampage.

realkaps
08-15-2003, 09:52 AM
Your also forgetting that Yoshida is normally a heavyweight. Which means he is probably pretty strong too. But Rampage slammed Igor, and I am pretty certain Igor is stronger than Yoshida.....

rOLLoNe
08-15-2003, 10:16 AM
yosh will get KTFO........judo ain't gonna help him from a mma slam from QJ or a brutal ko from silva or chuck the guy has never faced anyone in the olympics that would knock his block off or slam him on his head. in the olympics they wear gi's and he was facing other judo speacialist not bodyslaming ko specialist.

realkaps
08-15-2003, 10:20 AM
Good first post......

DragonZero
08-15-2003, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by rOLLoNe
yosh will get KTFO........judo ain't gonna help him from a mma slam from QJ or a brutal ko from silva or chuck the guy has never faced anyone in the olympics that would knock his block off or slam him on his head. in the olympics they wear gi's and he was facing other judo speacialist not bodyslaming ko specialist.




why can't i post like this ?:fu:

Seraph_17
08-15-2003, 01:52 PM
that post sucked dudes, the guy doesn't know what hes talking bout. I'm not saying he won't get KO'd (I think he will) I'm just saying theres no way Jackson can throw yoshi since yoshi was the best guy at throwing on the frikin PLANET at one point, get me?

The Ensanity
08-15-2003, 02:01 PM
JACKSON WOULD NEVER SLAM YOSHIDA

#1 Judo guy is not getting slammed...Jackson would **** him up BADLY...but not by slams.

Yoshida's reactions from Judo are too natural and quick and would toss rampage if he trys to slam him. Yoshida would be 3 moves ahead of Rampage if he goes for a slam

and Rampage aint stupid. He would go for a slam...He'd KTFO of Yoshida...end of story

rOLLoNe
08-15-2003, 02:13 PM
Yosh is skilled when it comes to throws and probably knows how to avoid the brute force of a slam but to say that Qj can't or won't slam is plan dumb. anyone can get slammed it all depends on the
hold and positon in which the slam goes down. yeah yosh was a gold medalist and was the king in the olympics but this is MMA.

The Ensanity
08-15-2003, 02:40 PM
I know this is mma, but some **** is natural...Throwing and avoiding throws and slams is in Yoshida's blood...

but who gives a damn, Jackson would KILL HIM

Seraph_17
08-16-2003, 08:21 AM
I think you mean he WOULDN'T go for a slam ensanity and you are absolutly correct, if he did Yoshida would throw him fast. Rampage would KTFO Yoshida, but through striking, not slams, no way.