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Detroit101
07-02-2008, 12:30 AM
here is the essential boxer supplement list...

1. protein.....isolate Milk derived whey protein isolate....at least 25 grams of BCAA's......7.5 grams of leucine......5 grams glutamine....Isopure by Natures Best

2. Vitamin.....encapsulated in natural ingredients....recommended (Mega Man) by GNC

3. Creatine Monohydrate or other.....Cell tech by Muscle Tech or Size On by Gaspari Nutrition.....Endurance and strength.....so sorry for the reality check!

4. Beef liver tabs by Universal Nutrition.....sorry you little *****es but the secret to strength is the BCAA's...


Does anybody have any arguments? I will beat you down like a red headed step child and work you like a rented mule......

I apologize for the crash course, but your competition spends big $ to be quicker and stronger than you......

Anyone from Serbia or trailer park countries please ignore this post. Thanks *****es!

Smokin'J
07-02-2008, 12:34 AM
xD lovely post bro.
hmm you got any cheap **** on?
I get this drink milk eat eggs and chicken legs or any other kinda meat the others I don't get.
Laughed at the ''Does anybody have any arguments? I will beat you down like a red headed step child and work you like a rented mule......

I apologize for the crash course, but your competition spends big $ to be quicker and stronger than you......

Anyone from Serbia or trailer park countries please ignore this post. Thanks *****es!''

respect :p

d_lyrik803
07-02-2008, 01:08 AM
i don't believe in any supplements other than protein powder shake. anything else can be substituted by actual food thats good for you and actually makes your stomach happy instead of pills.

fraidycat
07-02-2008, 01:36 AM
All said, what you posted is not bad.

However.........

GNC is crap. Cellulose, hard to digest, expensive.

Creatine constipates you, weighs you down with excess water, and the ATP rush is momentary. Good for jock fratboys doing curls at Ballys and the kind of douchebags who wear rubberbands on their upper arm at bars to make their arms look pumped; not good for a boxer doing a 1- or 2-hour anaerobic workout at 90% max heart rate. A creatine load might get you through a fight, at least the first round.

My traning diet:

Water.

Green tea.

Black coffee.

Lean meat.

Raw, steamed, or grilled veggies.

Raw fruit.

Wild rice.

Oatmeal.

Soup.

As much of the above as you want. Don't be hungry.

Vitamins in the morning.

Whey protein before bed.

Glutamine after a workout.

That's it.

Towelie
07-02-2008, 02:07 AM
All said, what you posted is not bad.

However.........

GNC is crap. Cellulose, hard to digest, expensive.

Creatine constipates you, weighs you down with excess water, and the ATP rush is momentary. Good for jock fratboys doing curls at Ballys and the kind of douchebags who wear rubberbands on their upper arm at bars to make their arms look pumped; not good for a boxer doing a 1- or 2-hour anaerobic workout at 90% max heart rate. A creatine load might get you through a fight, at least the first round.

My traning diet:

Water.

Green tea.

Black coffee.

Lean meat.

Raw, steamed, or grilled veggies.

Raw fruit.

Wild rice.

Oatmeal.

Soup.

As much of the above as you want. Don't be hungry.

Vitamins in the morning.

Whey protein before bed.

Glutamine after a workout.

That's it.

I used to drink Whey protein shakes way back when I lifted weights but since I started boxing I havent been drinking them cause im scared to gain weight. Am I being over paranoid, will these shakes make me gain weight cause when I drank them I seemed to bulk up more.

fraidycat
07-02-2008, 03:03 AM
I used to drink Whey protein shakes way back when I lifted weights but since I started boxing I havent been drinking them cause im scared to gain weight. Am I being over paranoid, will these shakes make me gain weight cause when I drank them I seemed to bulk up more.

A pure whey shake is fine. Whey with water or juice. Not a Met-RX, not a "meal replacement," and not "weight gain powder."

To gain muscle mass you need considerable amounts of protein. Optimum for a bodybuilder is at least 1.5g per lb. of bodyweight. This is what you need to get the "huge muscles" that everyone is so afraid of. That much protein, plus muscle-specific exercises performed at loads and durations aimed specifically at hypertrophy, plus limited aerobics, plus massive periods of rest, plus a laundry list of exotic supplements that most guys can barely spell, equals big-time muscle building.

If you're doing boxing workouts plus daily roadwork, if you're eating a clean diet (similar to what I outlined above), and are taking in less than 1g of protein per lb. of bodyweight (.5g per kilo), there is no way in hell you will gain the kind of muscle that most boxers seem to be afraid of. None. At all. ZERO chance. The only way it might possibly happen is if you're a genetic freak, which means you'll end up with a physique like Versy or DA1CATAS. Not a bad thing, IMO.

BTW, milk will bloat you and make you gain temporary weight. Mix your whey shakes with an unsweetened juice (no sugar or high fructose corn syrup) or water. I use water and a splash of apple cider.

Creatine will also make you gain weight; one of its primary effects is to swell your muscles with water to make you look big.

Hearnsz
07-02-2008, 05:15 AM
I always wondered: "what is green tea good for?"

PunchDrunk
07-02-2008, 07:43 AM
fraidycat FTW!

sukhenkoy
07-02-2008, 10:50 AM
here is the essential boxer supplement list...

1. protein.....isolate Milk derived whey protein isolate....at least 25 grams of BCAA's......7.5 grams of leucine......5 grams glutamine....Isopure by Natures Best

2. Vitamin.....encapsulated in natural ingredients....recommended (Mega Man) by GNC

3. Creatine Monohydrate or other.....Cell tech by Muscle Tech or Size On by Gaspari Nutrition.....Endurance and strength.....so sorry for the reality check!

4. Beef liver tabs by Universal Nutrition.....sorry you little *****es but the secret to strength is the BCAA's...


Does anybody have any arguments? I will beat you down like a red headed step child and work you like a rented mule......

I apologize for the crash course, but your competition spends big $ to be quicker and stronger than you......

Anyone from Serbia or trailer park countries please ignore this post. Thanks *****es!

Who says its essential? You want to eat, eat naturally. Do you think you'd be able to get to where you are now without taking so much processed ****?

alza1988
07-02-2008, 12:26 PM
my favourite supplement is caffeine,i take a minimum 300grams,its good for weight because it burns calories,its a brilliant pre-workout,try before a workout,i get a good buzz off it,it helps me ,train harder,train longer,eat less,boosts endurance and abviously get my weight down alot easier,try a couple of hundered mills ,get the tunes on get on the tradmill,i used to make 10miles easy,just watch you dont take to much,i think the heavier you are ,i think the more you need,you should experiment and see what amount you need.

Detroit101
07-02-2008, 11:43 PM
I should have clarified.......i dont eat burger king and McDs then take supplements.....

Before even contemplating supplements the diet must be strict and clean.....

TheTruthIs
07-03-2008, 12:38 AM
Whey isolate is good, but not really worth the extra $$ IMO.

So long as you are getting a pure whey 30g dose + 5g L-glutamine 10-15 mins after workout I think the benefits are more then substantial.

As for those who say just eat properly for your after intense workout needs, well, you can try...but not only will you most likely be lacking what your body needs, it'll cost you more $$ trying to get it from food then it will cost in supplements.

Creatine I think is **** for a boxer trying to fight lean and mean. If ya want to bulk and gain then maybe. It's more of a get big n purdy fast pill.

Landon S
07-03-2008, 02:29 AM
fraidycat FTW!

What does FTW mean?

TheTruthIs
07-03-2008, 04:11 AM
What does FTW mean?


FTW = For The Win.

On a bad day, Fuk Tha World.

PunchDrunk
07-03-2008, 07:28 AM
FTW = For The Win.

On a bad day, Fuk Tha World.

This was a good day :)

iceman55
07-03-2008, 09:46 AM
you can also eat all natural things and achieve things that supplements give you.

Chia seeds with water help with ? look it up.

(Colostrum) Breast milk look it up.

Exotic wild berrys and fruits such as Acai Mangosteen choke berry currant goji etc. look em up.

barley flax seeds garlic etc.

lastly if you consume fast foods chips sodas candys etc your only hindering your own efforts whatever they may be reguardless of amount or quantity.

all of these things have if not all but most of the essential things for training without all of the pills and powders people consume everyday. I wont lie I have whey protein but never use it because of the non essential fats they have and the expense then runs out short of a month every time.