View Full Version : thoughts on boxing tall guys....


nedcmk1
06-18-2008, 11:32 AM
I'm about 5'8" and will be sparring someone about 4" taller tonight.

I'm going to try to do my best not to square my shoulders at all (a bad habit i have sometimes) and step in to keep my jab as long as possible, and keep constant head movement to work my way into the inside...

I'm sure my trainer is going to have a strategy for me, and a lecture on breathing... curious as to what you guys think....

danny stash
06-18-2008, 12:14 PM
try and get inside his jab and bang inside nullifying his reach advantage.

my 2

nedcmk1
06-18-2008, 12:40 PM
lots of head movement.... i know he tends to stand still. my only issue should be the reach difference.... hes only about 12lbs heavier than me so its just a bit of size distance. The long reach should be good work though for me.

I'm curious if i should stay low....

..David..
06-18-2008, 12:47 PM
hey bro what class are you on ? i am 5'7 and i feel you as a shortfighter hehe i have fought as a middleweight and i am currently a lightmiddleweight ( still fighting in the amateur ranks in mexico) i have fought guys 6'1 and 6'2 and have done really good after getting used to it.

My advice would be, do not try to fight like a tall fighter, dont fight with an upright position and trying to trade jabs, you are just gonna lose your time, and eat many of them. I use a very low stance and have gotten great results, but you have to train hard to master it, because it can be really hard on your legs and balance, so train hard if you plan to use it.
I attack mostly to the body from this stance and if you combine it with good head movement you will become a real treath.
I dont know your built but this works great for me because i am short but can take a punch and have a decent amount of power, other thing when rushing in to your opponent chest, try to move sideways or create angles, if you just sprint to the inside on a straight line you can get tagged really hard.

Remember most guys try to take your head off with a punch, but if you punch the body hard the head will fall by itself.

hehe well those are my 2 cents, if you want any more advice on tall guys just msg me ill be happy to help :)

danny stash
06-18-2008, 12:47 PM
hey bro what class are you on ? i am 5'7 and i feel you as a shortfighter hehe i have fought as a middleweight and i am currently a lightmiddleweight ( still fighting in the amateur ranks in mexico) i have fought guys 6'1 and 6'2 and have done really good after getting used to it.

My advice would be, do not try to fight like a tall fighter, dont fight with an upright position and trying to trade jabs, you are just gonna lose your time, and eat many of them. I use a very low stance and have gotten great results, but you have to train hard to master it, because it can be really hard on your legs and balance, so train hard if you plan to use it.
I attack mostly to the body from this stance and if you combine it with good head movement you will become a real treath.
I dont know your built but this works great for me because i am short but can take a punch and have a decent amount of power, other thing when rushing in to your opponent chest, try to move sideways or create angles, if you just sprint to the inside on a straight line you can get tagged really hard.

Remember most guys try to take your head off with a punch, but if you punch the body hard the head will fall by itself.

hehe well those are my 2 cents, if you want any more advice on tall guys just msg me ill be happy to help :)
good stuff....watch some vids on David Tua to see this in action!

nedcmk1
06-18-2008, 02:33 PM
Thanks for the responses. It's awesome to post here and get 2 intelligent posters respond, rather than an arguing mess.

I'm gonna try and stay low. I assume it is going to be difficult for him to utilize as much head movement as i will be able too. i am comfortable with constant level changes from wrestling. we'll see how it goes.

nedcmk1
06-18-2008, 02:34 PM
oh..... i'm 5'8 155... he's about 6ft and 170

CUBASERE
06-18-2008, 03:48 PM
hey bro what class are you on ? i am 5'7 and i feel you as a shortfighter hehe i have fought as a middleweight and i am currently a lightmiddleweight ( still fighting in the amateur ranks in mexico) i have fought guys 6'1 and 6'2 and have done really good after getting used to it.

My advice would be, do not try to fight like a tall fighter, dont fight with an upright position and trying to trade jabs, you are just gonna lose your time, and eat many of them. I use a very low stance and have gotten great results, but you have to train hard to master it, because it can be really hard on your legs and balance, so train hard if you plan to use it.
I attack mostly to the body from this stance and if you combine it with good head movement you will become a real treath.
I dont know your built but this works great for me because i am short but can take a punch and have a decent amount of power, other thing when rushing in to your opponent chest, try to move sideways or create angles, if you just sprint to the inside on a straight line you can get tagged really hard.

Remember most guys try to take your head off with a punch, but if you punch the body hard the head will fall by itself.

hehe well those are my 2 cents, if you want any more advice on tall guys just msg me ill be happy to help :)

You fight in Mexico eh? What state do you live in?

..David..
06-18-2008, 06:26 PM
i am from sonora, but i live train and fight in nuevo leon :)

J_CON
06-18-2008, 06:28 PM
Get in the inside Dont rush straight in though. Jab your way in, give angles and move your head.

Trrmo
06-18-2008, 07:10 PM
when I boxed as a junior I was tall and skinny and my main opponent was short and compact, our fights were normally even - I won a few, he won a few. I use to drop my guard quite a bit because had to punch down to him, this left me open to counter attack so he waited for me to punch and came back with big overhand lefts (he was a southpaw) that landed quite often. So counter punching, lots of slipping and pressure and cutting off the ring, otherwise you will be picked off at a distance

aussieboxer2320
06-19-2008, 06:38 AM
come in at angles, step outside his punches, counter over the top. dont let him breathe, use an angle (ie step outside his jab with your rear foot and come under to the body or over the top) to get inside and stay there!!!!!!!

also, DONT rush straight at him!!! this is a brilliant way to get a nice little black eye or a bloody nose haha experiences

BOLLOCKS
06-19-2008, 09:20 AM
i am from sonora, but i live train and fight in nuevo leon :)

You keep beating them tall foos up for us short people ok.:puppy_dog :D

nedcmk1
06-19-2008, 12:37 PM
Did ok, and got some really nice work.

I stayed low which I think worked to my advantage, I utilized a long jab to the body well and I felt i was able to control the pace and add pressure using it. I kept the pressure on the whole time trying not to allow him to set a pace and control me with his long jab.... the pace was very fast for him, and myself also. i just tried to keep a straight face and look relaxed although my legs were on fire and all the head movement was tiring me out.

All in all it was a great learning experience and fun sparring. It wasnt light and there were some very hard shots, i saw stars a few times and he really caught me hard with a right uppercut.... i wore his body down well and sent him stumbling back from a right counter to a jab i slipped, but we both were in control and there was no wild antics.

I love sparring.

BOLLOCKS
06-19-2008, 12:58 PM
Did ok, and got some really nice work.

I stayed low which I think worked to my advantage, I utilized a long jab to the body well and I felt i was able to control the pace and add pressure using it. I kept the pressure on the whole time trying not to allow him to set a pace and control me with his long jab.... the pace was very fast for him, and myself also. i just tried to keep a straight face and look relaxed although my legs were on fire and all the head movement was tiring me out.

All in all it was a great learning experience and fun sparring. It wasnt light and there were some very hard shots, i saw stars a few times and he really caught me hard with a right uppercut.... i wore his body down well and sent him stumbling back from a right counter to a jab i slipped, but we both were in control and there was no wild antics.

I love sparring.

You ever been KO'ed in sparring?:D

nedcmk1
06-19-2008, 01:06 PM
I'm not sure why it is relevant, but I've been knocked down twice where I couldn't regain my balance and sparring was stopped while i tried to get up... but never out cold. Have had my nose broken ect.....

DA1CATAS
06-19-2008, 01:08 PM
hey bro what class are you on ? i am 5'7 and i feel you as a shortfighter hehe i have fought as a middleweight and i am currently a lightmiddleweight ( still fighting in the amateur ranks in mexico) i have fought guys 6'1 and 6'2 and have done really good after getting used to it.

My advice would be, do not try to fight like a tall fighter, dont fight with an upright position and trying to trade jabs, you are just gonna lose your time, and eat many of them. I use a very low stance and have gotten great results, but you have to train hard to master it, because it can be really hard on your legs and balance, so train hard if you plan to use it.
I attack mostly to the body from this stance and if you combine it with good head movement you will become a real treath.
I dont know your built but this works great for me because i am short but can take a punch and have a decent amount of power, other thing when rushing in to your opponent chest, try to move sideways or create angles, if you just sprint to the inside on a straight line you can get tagged really hard.

Remember most guys try to take your head off with a punch, but if you punch the body hard the head will fall by itself.

hehe well those are my 2 cents, if you want any more advice on tall guys just msg me ill be happy to help :)

hey this sounds like a good response for ya.

BOLLOCKS
06-19-2008, 01:11 PM
I'm not sure why it is relevant, but I've been knocked down twice where I couldn't regain my balance and sparring was stopped while i tried to get up... but never out cold. Have had my nose broken ect.....

So you've been tko'ed.:D What did that feel like?

nedcmk1
06-19-2008, 02:11 PM
confusing...


whats the point?

!! Shawn
06-19-2008, 04:10 PM
Boxing According to Shawn: Chapter 1 - Getting Inside on Taller Opponents.

There are 3 ways to get inside on a taller man.

1- Feint your way in
2- Jab your way in
3- Slip and close your way in

My personal favorite, and what I view as most effective is to feint your way in. This is a more advanced technique for getting on the inside. It revolves around your ability to force your opponent into making a bad move.

For example, if I was fighting a tall counter-puncher, who liked to catch and counter my jab, I would do the following.

1. Feint the jab
- Seeing this feint he will do one of two things.
A) He will attempt to catch the jab *see 2a
B) He will throw a right hand counter *see 2b

2a. Left hook
- His hand will be out of position as a result of trying to catch your jab.
2b. Left hook
- Knowing his right hand is coming, take a half step back after your feint, wait for his right hand to miss, and spring forward with a left hook counter.

That is one example of how you get inside on a taller man. If you just try and bull your way in, you will eat lots of leather. Do it the smart way, like Roberto Duran.

aussieboxer2320
06-21-2008, 07:35 PM
Boxing According to Shawn: Chapter 1 - Getting Inside on Taller Opponents.

There are 3 ways to get inside on a taller man.

1- Feint your way in
2- Jab your way in
3- Slip and close your way in

My personal favorite, and what I view as most effective is to feint your way in. This is a more advanced technique for getting on the inside. It revolves around your ability to force your opponent into making a bad move.

For example, if I was fighting a tall counter-puncher, who liked to catch and counter my jab, I would do the following.

1. Feint the jab
- Seeing this feint he will do one of two things.
A) He will attempt to catch the jab *see 2a
B) He will throw a right hand counter *see 2b

2a. Left hook
- His hand will be out of position as a result of trying to catch your jab.
2b. Left hook
- Knowing his right hand is coming, take a half step back after your feint, wait for his right hand to miss, and spring forward with a left hook counter.

That is one example of how you get inside on a taller man. If you just try and bull your way in, you will eat lots of leather. Do it the smart way, like Roberto Duran.

that is a whole load of nothing man. it may or may not work but its written in a pompous and egotistical fashion. if you want to learn technical aspects of boxing dude, listen to your trainer.

!! Shawn
06-21-2008, 07:57 PM
that is a whole load of nothing man. it may or may not work but its written in a pompous and egotistical fashion. if you want to learn technical aspects of boxing dude, listen to your trainer.

It would be wise of you to avoid words that you do not understand.

aussieboxer2320
06-21-2008, 09:23 PM
It would be wise of you to avoid words that you do not understand.

and it would be wise for you to shut up and join a sport that suits you better, maybe lawn bowls or badminton

Danny Gunz
06-22-2008, 01:03 PM
I hate fighting taller guys but what my trainer would always tell me was to smother their punches and get inside them.

Rafael Benitez
06-23-2008, 01:34 AM
I'm 5'11'' and 175lbs so don't usually get taller guys. When I do I don't always pressure or trty ot get close as traditional doctrine dictates. Not always a good idea to change habits. Instead what I do is more head movement and parrying the long jab, and try to unload combos out in bursts. In and out. Then I circle and move like I normally do. The only difference from normal is that I don't stick and move. If they are taller you probably can't. Get in there, do what you normally do if you usually counter and then get out.

Shawn, your advice is bollocks and contrived. it does go to show why you are not very good. lIsten to me, as I am defoe better than you so you can LEARN. You're getting ahead of yourself mate. Things do not always work out like that. Sometimes you will need to slip, sometimes roll, sometimes feint. You have to be more versatile and stop getting into the frame of mind where you think you can sscript it. It isn't a Noddy and Big Ears storybook. To be honest feinting against taller men is silly. If you want to jab them, either slip and counter or parry and step in.