View Full Version : Lockett Syndrome


potatoes
06-15-2008, 12:12 PM
What happens if you have too many soft sparring partners, too many easy fights, and spend too much time slacking off in the gym? Here it is:


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When you finally get your finally get you big chance you come out looking like a bum. There was no reason that Gary Lockett had to make things so easy for Kelly Pavlik. No reason other than the sloppy habits he acquired over many years finally came back to haunt him.

Take care that you don't catch the Lockett Syndrome.

Talon
06-15-2008, 09:36 PM
good post ..while humiliating and degrading

isnt that the reason anybody ever loses? .. having easier sparring partners during their life / worse training and habits than the opponent

would it make sense to give pavlik credit instead of tearing lockett down? just askin.. because lockett put more effort in than you and i probably. he also had the balls to fight pavlik, we didnt. of course balls can be counter productive at times

potatoes
06-15-2008, 10:53 PM
Gary Lockett humiliated and degraded himself. I did not state nor imply that he could have won the fight with better training nor more effort. What I said was that he did not have to make it so easy for Pavlik. This was a fight he had a high probability of losing. How he loses, or what chance he gives himself to pull off the upset, is a choice made by him. But lets face it, the choices we make in the gym will be reflected in the choices we make in the ring. We are all creatures of habit. If we slack off in one set of circumstances we will slack off in another.

Hopefully some of these young boxers will learn the lesson that Gary Lockett had to teach them.

danny stash
06-15-2008, 11:33 PM
Gary Lockett humiliated and degraded himself. I did not state nor imply that he could have won the fight with better training nor more effort. What I said was that he did not have to make it so easy for Pavlik. This was a fight he had a high probability of losing. How he loses, or what chance he gives himself to pull off the upset, is a choice made by him. But lets face it, the choices we make in the gym will be reflected in the choices we make in the ring. We are all creatures of habit. If we slack off in one set of circumstances we will slack off in another.

Hopefully some of these young boxers will learn the lesson that Gary Lockett had to teach them.
Lockett took 3 knees without being seriously hurt. He looked at this fight as a get in get out, get a fat paycheck and dont get hurt. He is either a ***** or a genius, depends on what your goals are...

mickeyb
06-16-2008, 01:59 AM
Locket boxed sensibly... take a knee, get your scruples together and try again. No point in staying up and letting it be game over..

danny stash
06-16-2008, 09:53 AM
Locket boxed sensibly... take a knee, get your scruples together and try again. No point in staying up and letting it be game over..
He came to take a knee...IMO

the_godslayer
06-16-2008, 10:03 AM
IMO this has a lot to do with Frank Warren too, in that he protects and mis matches his fighters far too much in order to extract the most cash possible from their careers, see Ricky Hatton & Amir Khan for obvious examples of this.
This means that invariably when they come up against world class opposition, unless they have been held back then they will come up miserably short!!

danny stash
06-16-2008, 10:07 AM
IMO this has a lot to do with Frank Warren too, in that he protects and mis matches his fighters far too much in order to extract the most cash possible from their careers, see Ricky Hatton & Amir Khan for obvious examples of this.
This means that invariably when they come up against world class opposition, unless they have been held back then they will come up miserably short!!
good point.......well said

potatoes
06-16-2008, 02:01 PM
IMO this has a lot to do with Frank Warren too, in that he protects and mis matches his fighters far too much in order to extract the most cash possible from their careers, see Ricky Hatton & Amir Khan for obvious examples of this.
This means that invariably when they come up against world class opposition, unless they have been held back then they will come up miserably short!!


You can't blame Frank Warren for Ricky Hatton's wild brawling nor Amir Khan's arrogant lack of defense.

potatoes
06-16-2008, 02:19 PM
He came to take a knee...IMO


Good point. That is a possibility.

Over the past five decades I'm seen many thousands of guys go down from a light tap on the shoulder, but usually they stay down. In most cases taking a knee is an indication of the desire to continue. The impression I got is that Lockett was overwhelmed by the situation. Pavlik wasn't just a step up in competition, it was more like three steps.

mickeyb
06-16-2008, 02:43 PM
He came to take a knee...IMO

I dont think he went to lose - but i think he knew he had only a punchers chance.

i feel Locketts visit to the US was in order to make some kind of a deal with the Calzaghe and Warren camp. Keep him sweet..."give my boy Lockett a shot at the title...we might give you Joe." etc

IMO this has a lot to do with Frank Warren too, in that he protects and mis matches his fighters far too much in order to extract the most cash possible from their careers, see Ricky Hatton & Amir Khan for obvious examples of this.
This means that invariably when they come up against world class opposition, unless they have been held back then they will come up miserably short!!


It's all about making that money at the end of the day.

Amir Khan..for his stage in his career is actually fighting bigger names than most of his counterparts in honesty.