Holmes beat an out of prime Ali, how would he fair against the greatest in his prime?

Holmes beat an out of prime Ali, how would he fair against the greatest in his prime?

A very good boxer-puncher against the ultimate boxer-puncher, i got Ali.

12 round unanimous decision.

Holmes by UD, Holmes handled Ali quite easily during sparring sessions so I can't see why he couldn't do it in real life ether. Arguably Ali was 32 years old but the younger ali was more reckless, he'd get beat by Holmes to.

Holmes is underrated by many, you had to seriously hurt him to stop him.

=them_apples;3633957] Ali was 32 years old but the younger ali was more reckless,


True, but I think that is counterbalanced by the fact that he was light years faster in his prime than he was then. He also was smart enough to adapt to who he was fighting. I agree that Ali wouldn't "stop" him.

I would take a prime Ali over a prime anybody...a prime Ali was too fast for anybody.
And as we sadly saw in his later years,Ali could take anybody's best punch...

I rank Ali number one and Larry Holmes number two in my list of the greatest heavyweights ever.

I'd expect a very close fight shaded by Ali, who was just a slight bit faster and harder to hit in his prime than Holmes.

Ali by close decision.

And we didn't get the chance to see a prime Ali, prime Ali was in exile but I pick the Ali that beat Cleveland Williams to beat a prime Holmes.

Of all the great heavyweights I think Holmes has the best style to give Ali trouble though.

Ali by UD or KO.

Holmes by UD, Holmes handled Ali quite easily during sparring sessions so I can't see why he couldn't do it in real life ether. Arguably Ali was 32 years old but the younger ali was more reckless, he'd get beat by Holmes to.

Holmes is underrated by many, you had to seriously hurt him to stop him.

Most sparring partners did as Ali worked on things he wasn't as good at. Meaning it appears he was being man handled. Anyway, i would go with Ali UD.

Of all the great heavyweights I think Holmes has the best style to give Ali trouble though.

That's not true, as we saw in the Frazier Ali fight, A peek-a-boo/bob and weave style fighter would give him tons of trouble. Luckily for Ali Frazier didn't hit that hard and was pretty slow.

Although Tyson was not the greatest ever in terms of accomplishments, I'd give him one hell of a chance of beating Ali based on styles alone. Holmes vs a young Ali would have been quite a war, Ali being faster on his feet -- but Holmes had the better jab and arguably more power. Holmes was almost impossible to beat in a decision (only when he was older did he lose some very close matches to Spinks) so I see a young Holmes taking a UD from Ali.

That's not true, as we saw in the Frazier Ali fight, A peek-a-boo/bob and weave style fighter would give him tons of trouble. Luckily for Ali Frazier didn't hit that hard and was pretty slow.

Although Tyson was not the greatest ever in terms of accomplishments, I'd give him one hell of a chance of beating Ali based on styles alone. Holmes vs a young Ali would have been quite a war, Ali being faster on his feet -- but Holmes had the better jab and arguably more power. Holmes was almost impossible to beat in a decision (only when he was older did he lose some very close matches to Spinks) so I see a young Holmes taking a UD from Ali.

Luckily for Ali Frazier didn't hit that hard

Huh?


On the subject of Holmes, it is extremely hard for a fighter to outpoint Ali because of his rapid combos. Do you think he would score a knock out?

If Tyson fought every round like he fought the first, i would agree that he would have a good shot at beating Ali. However he dosen't, and if fighters like James Quick Tillis and Bone Crusher Smith could survive the early onslaught, so could Ali. We forget that Ali was a smart fighter who adapted to who he was fighting ; the greatest example of that was the Rumble In The Jungle .

That's not true, as we saw in the Frazier Ali fight, A peek-a-boo/bob and weave style fighter would give him tons of trouble. Luckily for Ali Frazier didn't hit that hard and was pretty slow.

Although Tyson was not the greatest ever in terms of accomplishments, I'd give him one hell of a chance of beating Ali based on styles alone. Holmes vs a young Ali would have been quite a war, Ali being faster on his feet -- but Holmes had the better jab and arguably more power. Holmes was almost impossible to beat in a decision (only when he was older did he lose some very close matches to Spinks) so I see a young Holmes taking a UD from Ali.

You are soo full of shit man, frazier was a slugger, and in his prime was pretty damn fast. Of course you'd put tyson winning against ali, youd put tyson winning against anybody really. Holmes would get outpointed by a younger ali, easy.

You are soo full of shit man, frazier was a slugger, and in his prime was pretty damn fast. Of course you'd put tyson winning against ali, youd put tyson winning against anybody really. Holmes would get outpointed by a younger ali, easy.


you under estimate Larry Holmes. I was trying to be realistic with the Tyson statement, and no I would not pick Tyson to win over anybody.

That's not true, as we saw in the Frazier Ali fight, A peek-a-boo/bob and weave style fighter would give him tons of trouble. Luckily for Ali Frazier didn't hit that hard and was pretty slow.

Although Tyson was not the greatest ever in terms of accomplishments, I'd give him one hell of a chance of beating Ali based on styles alone. Holmes vs a young Ali would have been quite a war, Ali being faster on his feet -- but Holmes had the better jab and arguably more power. Holmes was almost impossible to beat in a decision (only when he was older did he lose some very close matches to Spinks) so I see a young Holmes taking a UD from Ali.

Tyson wouldn't have beaten Ali, Ali would just have to drag Tyson past the 6th or 7th round and then Tyson would begin to slow down physically and start to break mentally.

Frazier was faster than you give him credit for and he hit pretty damned hard.

Ali was faster than Holmes, Holmes had the better jab and power but he wasn't as smart as Ali and punched a bit wider.

He would give Ali problems because of his style but more importantly, he was mentally strong throughout a fight, he never stopped trying.

Holmes beat an out of prime Ali, how would he fair against the greatest in his prime?

On paper a great matchup; but it would probably be a dull fight (or a great chess match depending on your point of view). Many of their respective strengths are mirror images of each other. Holmes has the better jab, Ali the better defense. Both had awesome chins. Holmes had more power in his right, Ali was faster. Ultimately I think Ali wins a close decision with his faster hands making the difference and neither fighter being in trouble at any point in the fight.

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