OK this is a conversation i'm having with some crazy lady in Coral Springs that wants to start a fight club for her kids 15-20 but then changes it so that she wants to do MMA smokers then just un competative under trained boxing

MyhrtsMikes: hi. Look you dont know me but can I ask you somthing
Diablo9719: um ok
MyhrtsMikes: you are "vulgartheclown" right?
Diablo9719: yeah who are you
MyhrtsMikes: just a chic...
Diablo9719: what woudl you need to ask me if your just a chic yet you know who i am?
MyhrtsMikes: I am looking into starting some kind of fight club
MyhrtsMikes: I just got your name off the website
MyhrtsMikes: For teenagers though.
Diablo9719: which websight
MyhrtsMikes: just wanted some feedback maybe
MyhrtsMikes: project meyham
Diablo9719: ok
Diablo9719: your the 15 year old
MyhrtsMikes: I want it to be for teens. 16-20.
MyhrtsMikes: no far from im 29
MyhrtsMikes: just read the bored
Diablo9719: if your 29 why do you want it for kids?
MyhrtsMikes: well.... I own a store that deals with alot of them, and there bored out of there damn mind on friday nigihts
MyhrtsMikes: besides **** they shouldnt be doing
Diablo9719: sounds kinda like a pedaphile cover up
MyhrtsMikes: its a way to make it legal for them without having to jpin a gym just to break a sweat and fight
MyhrtsMikes: LMAO
MyhrtsMikes: no look me up
MyhrtsMikes: im a mom...of 3
Diablo9719: your a mom of 3 and tryi nto make a fight club?
MyhrtsMikes: I know ...everyone is saying im nuts...but if not me who?
Diablo9719: in all honesty no one
MyhrtsMikes: ok heres the thing its not a "true" fight club...
Diablo9719: i fight
MyhrtsMikes: I would have to have gear...these are teens
Diablo9719: its a kind of profession
MyhrtsMikes: along with a EMT and a ref.
Diablo9719: you wann put on a promotion
Diablo9719: what you need to do
Diablo9719: is get a promoters licesnce
Diablo9719: and promote teen pancration
MyhrtsMikes: yeah but if its just like a smoker I dont need a promoters license do I?
Diablo9719: i do not know
Diablo9719: actualy yes you would
Diablo9719: what state you in?
MyhrtsMikes: FL
Diablo9719: you would need a promoters license
Diablo9719: insurance
Diablo9719: a ring
Diablo9719: a hall
MyhrtsMikes: from what I hear, as long as im INC. and its just a smoker I did not think I needed a promoters lic
Diablo9719: your lookin at a 8-15 thousand dollar investment
MyhrtsMikes: yes I have the rest
MyhrtsMikes: or atleast would
MyhrtsMikes: and a Million dollar insurance poliy
MyhrtsMikes: yeah I know
Diablo9719: not worth it
Diablo9719: the kids are better off meeting in someone's back yard and throwin down
MyhrtsMikes: you dont think the teens would like it?
Diablo9719: i think they would love it
Diablo9719: but your going about it wrong
MyhrtsMikes: ok this is what I want? How so?
Diablo9719: you are proposing starting something that already exists
MyhrtsMikes: where?
MyhrtsMikes: besides the gyms they have to join
Diablo9719: your talkin in essence of a sport called MMA
MyhrtsMikes: MMA?
Diablo9719: this is the sport i do
MyhrtsMikes: whats this
Diablo9719: Mixed Martial Arts
MyhrtsMikes: but there abloe to fight who they want
Diablo9719: you ever heard of the Ultimate Fighting Chapionship?
MyhrtsMikes: and they dont have to join anything etc
MyhrtsMikes: ye
MyhrtsMikes: yes
Diablo9719: your missing what i'm saying
MyhrtsMikes: thats like a tough man comp?
Diablo9719: for you to put kids into this with no training would be criminal
Diablo9719: nothing like a tough man
Diablo9719: everyone is trained to the T
Diablo9719: safety is the #1 priority
Diablo9719: i've been following the sport in the US and Japan since it started and NO ONE has ever died or been seriously hurt
Diablo9719: EVER
MyhrtsMikes: Even if there fighting people they know and have everything they need? besides all the equipment and gear, a emt ref etc?
MyhrtsMikes: so many teens dont want to put that much effort into it, they just wanna sparr
Diablo9719: you are playing with minors hats your problem
Diablo9719: especially pitting under 18 against 18+
Diablo9719: thats adult batter on a minor
MyhrtsMikes: but there doing it now! and there doing it dangerously
Diablo9719: but they are doing it on there own
Diablo9719: you would be criminaly involved if you did this
MyhrtsMikes: no- no one over 18 against under 18
MyhrtsMikes: how?
Diablo9719: you would be facilitating it
MyhrtsMikes: if they consent and sign the forms itst+-he same-41+ o
MyhrtsMikes: +xing
MyhrtsMikes: oops
MyhrtsMikes: sorry kids
MyhrtsMikes: its the same as boxing
Diablo9719: if you did this you would be the "pit master" of an underage underground illegal fight ring
Diablo9719: if you got a license and marketed a show thts different
MyhrtsMikes: now thats what some people are saying to me...but its not illegal, there would be a cop there and insured, proper equipment proper place....etc etc, only thing is there not trained and there not USA certified as boxers
Diablo9719: but there is no way you could do that. 1 its super expensive 2 the kids are untrained 3 you got no draw 4 there is no place that would put you up to let you do it
Diablo9719: I will tell you now
Diablo9719: in all reality
Diablo9719: what you want will not happen
MyhrtsMikes: your sweet...and pestimistic like my husband.
Diablo9719: nnot pesimistic
Diablo9719: realistic
Diablo9719: i already tried it
Diablo9719: when i was younger
MyhrtsMikes: but I have everything already...just dont know if the teens will come although they say it would be huge
MyhrtsMikes: the insurance
MyhrtsMikes: i can get the ring
MyhrtsMikes: the place
Diablo9719: what kinda place?
Diablo9719: would it be a show or just for the kids?
MyhrtsMikes: Its a big basketball gymnasium (indoors)
MyhrtsMikes: not even to much $
Diablo9719: you got the $ to rent a gym
Diablo9719: This is what i will tell you
MyhrtsMikes: its really not as much as you think
MyhrtsMikes: as anyone thinks
MyhrtsMikes: thebiggest money is the ring
Diablo9719: take your kids to the PAL thats the police athletic league its free let them box
Diablo9719: THEN
Diablo9719: take the kids to a BJJ (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu) school
MyhrtsMikes: so you dont think it would be cool?
Diablo9719: be it FFA, AFA whatever
Diablo9719: you get them training and understanding of the sport
MyhrtsMikes: again thats a school they have to join?
MyhrtsMikes: thye just want to fight there friends
Diablo9719: you act liek thats bad
Diablo9719: then you let them fight there friends
MyhrtsMikes: no they just want to fight once or twice though.
Diablo9719: i faught my friends al lthe time
Diablo9719: so let them be
Diablo9719: they are kids
Diablo9719: no one is gonna kill one another
MyhrtsMikes: I was thinking of haveing a gym that supports boxing come in and set up to give them more information if there interested in ti
MyhrtsMikes: how old are you, if you dont mind?
Diablo9719: take them to PAL its free they can box all they want and learn how to do it propper
Diablo9719: 21
MyhrtsMikes: so when you were 17 you wouldnt have gone to aplace to watch the kids duke it out every few weeks?
MyhrtsMikes: just for somthing to do on a fri night
?
Diablo9719: i would not have paid cause 1 i would have bene fighting and 2 why pay when i do it for free on my own with my buddies
Diablo9719: no one will go and oyu will be shut don by parents
Diablo9719: don = down
MyhrtsMikes: so you would have fought then
Diablo9719: i still do
MyhrtsMikes: you really think so?
Diablo9719: i know so
Diablo9719: the kids do it how they do now cause they go home and go mom i was rough housin and i got a black eye
Diablo9719: mom goes OK
Diablo9719: if you go mom i wanan go fight in a ring with tod and danny
Diablo9719: she says no
Diablo9719: then the kid stays home
Diablo9719: kids will be kids
MyhrtsMikes: i see
Diablo9719: and they will mess around with there buddies
Diablo9719: even if yo uset this thing up yo uwould just be facilitating and they will want to get more extreme and they will take it back to the streat
Diablo9719: street
Diablo9719: if the kids do not undersatnd the mechanics and the sportsmanship of it you would just get more fight afterward cause of building testosterone
MyhrtsMikes: that was my husbands biggest negative to it...not the parents, not that teems wouldnt show..that theyll get more agressive after words
Diablo9719: it will start more fights later
Diablo9719: get them i na school
Diablo9719: its well worth it
MyhrtsMikes: hell if there not in a school now how can i get them all in. Im only one person with a bunch of teens asking me to do somthing
Diablo9719: what part of FL you in?
MyhrtsMikes: south florida
Diablo9719: no ****
Diablo9719: city
MyhrtsMikes: Coral Springs
Diablo9719: OK
Diablo9719: you can come to my school
Diablo9719: i do not teach but i train
Diablo9719: atlantic and 441
MyhrtsMikes: your that close?
Diablo9719: yes
MyhrtsMikes: damn
Diablo9719: right next to wendies
Diablo9719: 5 for kids
Diablo9719: 6 for adults
MyhrtsMikes: oh my daughters friends goto a private school over there
MyhrtsMikes: what school?
Diablo9719: Its a BJJ and Judo school
Diablo9719: but the BJJ teacher is also a MMA champion
Diablo9719: holding 3 titles right now
MyhrtsMikes: so if I do do this, you wanna give a free lesson to the winners? :-)
Diablo9719: first class is free
Diablo9719: i do not teach
Diablo9719: i'm a student
MyhrtsMikes: oh
MyhrtsMikes: well your a smart one
Diablo9719: y do you say that?
MyhrtsMikes: you dont think this would get more teens into it?
Diablo9719: i think it would come back lookin bad on you
MyhrtsMikes: so that the match winners can get training if there really interested
Diablo9719: if the kids are trained thats different
Diablo9719: yes they can
MyhrtsMikes: dont people have smokers all the time?
Diablo9719: any of them can get training
Diablo9719: the PAL runs smokers all the time as do boxing gyms
Diablo9719: but you gotta go and get involved
Diablo9719: without a gym you got nothing unless you wnaan enter as self trained
MyhrtsMikes: so whats the difference?
Diablo9719: cause the gyms got the licenses and are funded by the state
Diablo9719: and they are boxing
Diablo9719: while your talkin about fighting
MyhrtsMikes: yeah but your talking about "real" boxing.
MyhrtsMikes: smokers are for people who are not trained
Diablo9719: wrong
MyhrtsMikes: below amateurs
Diablo9719: smokers are for amatures
MyhrtsMikes: non competitive
Diablo9719: below amatures belong in the gym training to be amatuers
MyhrtsMikes: they dont get pints for it though
Diablo9719: non competative = street fight
Diablo9719: un trained = street fight
Diablo9719: these are sports not brawls
Diablo9719: people that try and do what your doing is the reason why MMA isso held down
Diablo9719: your making it into a spectical
MyhrtsMikes: why do so many people think because there not trained its so wrong? My grandfather used to attend smokers all the time. people doing it for the fun of it,
Diablo9719: your making a toughman
MyhrtsMikes: no its not
Diablo9719: you want a oughman competition
MyhrtsMikes: there lots of rules
Diablo9719: tough man has rules
MyhrtsMikes: no i want a boxing compt. that they dont have to be trained for years to just fight there frineds, in front of there peers
MyhrtsMikes: in a safe place
Diablo9719: put them in pal for 3 months and they will be ready to compete
MyhrtsMikes: as safe as can be anyways
Diablo9719: everything will be provided
MyhrtsMikes: you dont get what im saying
Diablo9719: no you don't get waht i'm sayi
MyhrtsMikes: they dont want to train for months...
Diablo9719: so you let them keep on keepin on with what they are doing
Diablo9719: otherwise you are recklessly endangering kids
MyhrtsMikes: its not ...
Diablo9719: to you
Diablo9719: it is to the law
MyhrtsMikes: not if there there (the law) and the dr's.
Diablo9719: just because you hire security does not mean its OK
Diablo9719: your missing it
Diablo9719: you do not want a license
MyhrtsMikes: i dont mind a license
MyhrtsMikes: a promotiona; one?
Diablo9719: you got 5k to drop for a license for 1 show?
MyhrtsMikes: those are usually only needed for "real" USA boxing comps though amatuear or professional
Diablo9719: you do not know what your talking about
Diablo9719: i am and have been involved in what your talking about
Diablo9719: you need all the licenses
Diablo9719: all the insurance
Diablo9719: all the fees to the boxing comission
Diablo9719: you pay the ref's who arte appointed by the boxing comission
MyhrtsMikes: in florida you only need to be licensed with DBPR if you are going to hold a show for amateure orr professional boxing regulations.
Diablo9719: everything
Diablo9719: then by all means go have your show
MyhrtsMikes: right but...smokers are not regulated by the boxing commission if there non pointa ssesed
Diablo9719: and when i see you in the paper under the headding woman arrested for kid fighting i will cut it out and put it on my wall
MyhrtsMikes: its a non-profit company
MyhrtsMikes: :-(
Diablo9719: still needs licensing
MyhrtsMikes: thats not nice
Diablo9719: the truth aint nice
Diablo9719: i'm talkin to you tryin to keep you from gettin yourself in **** legaly
MyhrtsMikes: yes a non-profit business license
Diablo9719: A NPBL IS NOT FOR HOSTING BOXING
Diablo9719: ITS FOR NON PROFIT BUSINESSES
MyhrtsMikes: ok I called DBPR. they said i dont need one for a non competitve boxing
Diablo9719: fine
Diablo9719: go
Diablo9719: throw your kids in a ring
Diablo9719: i'll see you a kouple k poorer and a couple years less free
MyhrtsMikes: you make it sound so bad...yet you probably did it with no gear in your own back yard
Diablo9719: exactly
Diablo9719: i was unconcerned abotu safty as are these kids
Diablo9719: kids do not care
MyhrtsMikes: its the same thing but the get to show off a little and there protected much more
Diablo9719: your tryin to candy coat your childs existance
Diablo9719: you wanna rubber pad everything
Diablo9719: STOP
Diablo9719: let your kid be a kid and do kid things
Diablo9719: the most you can do is offer to clean there cut when they all
Diablo9719: fal
Diablo9719: l
Diablo9719: i need you to understand this
Diablo9719: if the kids like to fight
Diablo9719: bring them to a gym
Diablo9719: there theory of i do not want to train will go away once they get involved
Diablo9719: they will see that hey i do not know everything
Diablo9719: and they will want to know more
Diablo9719: because now they are just kids swingin around there arms
MyhrtsMikes: ok...just tell me WHY its bad...your right I dont get it. I think if they go to one of these and theres people there to introduce them to the gyms and they watch the friends or peers having fun what is the crime in it
Diablo9719: see your mis interpreting me
Diablo9719: i do not think there is a problem
Diablo9719: BUT
Diablo9719: from past experiece i know there is
Diablo9719: its all legal bull****
Diablo9719: if the kids really wanna fight
Diablo9719: bring them to my school tonight at 6
Diablo9719: let them watch
Diablo9719: then let the kids decide if they want to train

damn now that is a cool mom

too much to read... hit it

Originally posted by Zen420
too much to read... hit it

i feel sorry for her kids....

and man that was the most .... beat around the bush converstaion ive ever seen.... the ***** didnt understand anything and the way you explained it all was confusing to her so it ****ed it more....
you shoulda just wrote a list of 10 things shes needs and why and ****ed her off.

Did they come to your class?

****..I ain't reading that ****..............*moon walks outta the thread*

The dumb ***** should just pad their garage and buy boxing mits and headgear and let them **** each other up in the garage. Thats all the kids want.... they dont need a fricken ring and gymnasium and all that ****.... my god that mom is retarded. And the kids if they want to learn more and be fighters then they would goto the schools to learn....

how ****in hard is it to understand....

as you can see i dont like stupid ppl

my class is in 1 hour
i hope she shows up

today is vale tudo day!

"your mom is so fat that her shoes cry when she puts them on" -Dragonzero

haha get her in there kick her in the ****in kneecaps and armbar her and then break her nose with knee,

say this is why you need insurance you dumb ho, and this is why you need to keep it safe, and this is why kids who fight and get hurt end up hurting each other more cause they dont know how to control themselves.

YEAH! what Astro said!

Can someone summerize it?

"MyhrtsMikes: thats like a tough man comp?"

see, this is where you should have told her to stfu.

so did she show or what vulgar?

did you bang her?

WAY too much to read.

she said she looked but couldn't find it

it aint hard its right next to the wendies
stupid fool

Originally posted by Zen420
too much to read... hit it

CLIFF NOTES MOTHER ****ER!

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