View Full Version : More Ohio Vote rigging by Repugnicans


vB Martin
10-30-2004, 05:42 PM
How can a person of conscience vote a Bush ticket knowing that this kind of activity is being done by him and his party?

Twelve ways Bush is now stealing the Ohio vote
by Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman
October 27, 2004

The Republican "November Surprise" to steal the 2004 election is in full force here in Ohio. With polls showing a dead heat, the GOP is staging an all-out attack on a fair vote count in the Buckeye State.

Here are a dozen ways they're doing it:

* Under an archaic Ohio law, both the Republican and Democratic Parties, or any slate of five candidates, may embed official election challengers inside polling places. The New York Times reported on Oct. 23 that the Republican Party intends to place thousands of lawyers and other GOP faithfuls inside the polls to challenge voters. Republican insiders confide here that the key goal is to jam lines and frustrate new voters. The GOP apparently figures many voters in key Democratic precincts won't wait in line more than 15 minutes to vote. This is certain to be a major tactic in Cleveland's Cuyahoga County and other Democratic strongholds. The GOP is not planning to challenge voters in Republican districts.

* The Republican party has sent letters challenging thousands of Franklin County students who are registered to vote absentee. Franklin County is home to Columbus, the state's largest city and its capitol. Though it is also home to Ohio State University, thousands of local students go to schools outside the county or state. The GOP apparently does not want their votes counted. This unprecedented mass challenge has prompted the Franklin County Board of Elections, whose director is a conservative Republican, to reserve the large Veterans Memorial Auditorium downtown to process the challenges this Thursday, as John Kerry comes to town with Bruce Springsteen. The County has told thousands of students that if they don't appear in Columbus to answer the GOP challenges, they may lose their right to vote.

* The Franklin County Board of Elections has called or written an undetermined number of voters who obtained absentee ballots, challenging their addresses. In at least one case, after a series of angry phone calls, the Board admitted there was nothing wrong with the address in question and re-instated voting rights. The voter in question was a registered Democrat. His wife, an independent at the same address, was not challenged. It is unclear how many others have been wrongly knocked out.

* Even if they are counted, Franklin County's absentee ballot forms are rigged in ways strikingly reminiscent of those in Florida 2000. On many absentee forms, Kerry is listed third on the list of presidential candidates. But the actual number you punch for Kerry is "4." If you punch "3" you've just voted for Bush. Sound familiar?

* Franklin County's right wing Elections Director is insisting on e-voting machines which have malfunctioned in at least two Congressional elections, and which have no paper trail. The November issues of Popular Science and Popular Mechanics Magazines ran the following headlines on their covers, respectively: "E-vote emergency: And you thought dimpled chads were bad'" and "Could hackers tilt the election?" Vigorous protests against the paperless machines have been staged here, but many will be used, rendering a meaningful recount impossible.

* In four other Ohio counties, the notorious Diebold company, whose CEO Wally O'Dell has pledged to deliver Ohio's votes to Bush, will provide the e-voting machines to count votes without any paper trail while using proprietary "secret" software. O'Dell lives in the wealthy Columbus suburb of Upper Arlington and is a major Bush donor.

* Twenty GOP-dominated Ohio counties have given wrong information to former felons about their voter eligibility. In Hamilton County, home of Cincinnati and the Republican Taft family, officials told numerous former felons that a judge had to sign off before they could vote, which is blatantly false.

* Franklin County, which normally cancels 2-300 registered voters a year for felony convictions, has sent at least 3500 cancellation letters to both current felons and ex-felons whose convictions date back to 1998. The list includes numerous citizens who were charged with felonies but convicted only of misdemeanors.

* Republican Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell has reversed a long-standing Ohio practice and is barring voters from casting provisional ballots within their county if they are registered to vote but there's been a mistake about where they are expected to cast their ballot. In this year's spring primaries, Blackwell allowed voters to cast provisional ballots by county, even if they were in the wrong precinct. But this fall, such voters will have to leave the wrong precinct and find their way to the right one. Blackwell hopes to succeed Republican Bob Taft as governor, and has labored hard to install e-voting machines with no paper trail, to give the statewide contract to Diebold, and to take a long series of steps apparently designed to help hand Ohio to George W. Bush. Blackwell is being widely compared to the infamous Katherine Harris, who handed Florida to George W. Bush in 2000 and was rewarded with a safe Congressional seat.

* The Columbus Dispatch (which has endorsed Bush) and WVKO Radio have both documented phone calls from people impersonating Board of Elections workers and directing registered voters to different and incorrect polling sites. One individual was falsely told not to vote at the polling station across the street from his house, but at a "new" site, four miles away. Under Blackwell's new rules, such a vote would not be counted.

* In Cincinnati, some 150,000 voters were moved from active to inactive status within the last four years for not voting in the last two federal elections. This is not required under Ohio law, but is an option allowed and exercised by the Republican-dominated Hamilton County Board of Elections.

* Secretary of State Blackwell ruled that any voter registration form on other than 80-pound weight bond paper would not be accepted. This is an old law left over from pre-scanning days. Many voters who had registered on lighter paper, had their registration returned, even though the forms had been officially sanctioned by local election boards.

No Republican has ever won the presidency without carrying Ohio. This year the GOP seems determined to win it, no matter what they have do to the electoral process.

vB Martin
10-30-2004, 06:21 PM
Where are all the Bushies to defend this?

Dr.Depravity
10-30-2004, 06:27 PM
I dont buy it. Why havent the bigger news agencies jumped all over this prime story? NBC, CNN, and Fox had nothing on it.

vB Martin
10-30-2004, 06:35 PM
Honestly, I don't know. All that stuff was compiled from local news reports. I think our media in general is letting us down in not covering news properly, regardless of which side it makes look bad.

Dr.Depravity
10-30-2004, 06:37 PM
Honestly, I don't know. All that stuff was compiled from local news reports. I think our media in general is letting us down in not covering news properly, regardless of which side it makes look bad.
Agreed.
:)

vB Martin
10-30-2004, 06:39 PM
I did find this interesting article about Bush violating US Copyright law, though:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/29/bush.tune.ap/index.html

News has become entertainment in this country. It's why our media is considered a laughing stock in the rest of the world.

Dr.Depravity
10-30-2004, 06:43 PM
Ya got him there. You think they would learn. Didn't Reagen use a Bruce Springstein song?

vB Martin
10-30-2004, 06:45 PM
this is all the coverage ABC gave it on their website:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=204714&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

Dr.Depravity
10-30-2004, 06:51 PM
Its about what I expected. If you get a voter registration back as undelivered. It probably means the person no longer lives there. Hell they could be in another state, not to mention voting district. Leave it to the democrats to say that the republicans are targeting the poor. "because they are more apt to move around alot" what a load of ****.

vB Martin
10-30-2004, 06:55 PM
Poor people DO move more than middle class and rich people. They are also only sending these mails out to registered Democrats, and predominantly in poor and black neighborhoods. But of course they aren't targetting anyone in particular...

And it's not just voter registration cards. They are also sending out Republican literature and targetting people who return it.

Dr.Depravity
10-30-2004, 06:59 PM
They are not targeting people. They are targeting absentee ballots that are questionable. If you want to get down to rigging elections remeber the democrats offering free food to homless people if they would vote the democratic ticket in Florida?

vB Martin
10-30-2004, 07:18 PM
They are not targeting people. They are targeting absentee ballots that are questionable. If you want to get down to rigging elections remeber the democrats offering free food to homless people if they would vote the democratic ticket in Florida?
link?

And yes, they are targetting Democrats. Yes, they are targetting blacks. If they aren't, how do you explain the "challenge list" someone inside the Florida electoral offices sent to the Bush Campaign in both Florida and DC containing names that they might be able to challenge in predominantly black neighborhoods? There is a link to the BBC video I posted here a few days ago that actually has someone from the Florida Republican apparatus defending this and saying that they do intend to target these voters.

Dr.Depravity
10-30-2004, 07:22 PM
Heres one example, I couldnt find the Florida story on short notice.
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/fortwayne/news/local/10036756.htm

vB Martin
10-30-2004, 07:40 PM
Oddly, the link you chose to refute has a lot more accusations against the Republicans than against the Democrats. Also, it seems to imply that the Cigarette Lady may not even exist. Maybe she does, but homeless people, snce they dont have an address, can't even register, let alone vote. Strange that she would waste her money that way.

The false names have come in on both sides and that's because this year both NC's have funded organizations that pay a Bounty for registering people for their party. I think that this should be made illegal as Dick tracy can only vote so many times. I also think that the people who were assigned those cards (they are numbered) should be charged with theft for accepting the money for making up registration cards.

I still haven't seen anything liek the accusations coming out against the Repugnicans, though. The major ones right now that can be proven:

RNC is targetting black voters for "challenges".
The lady in Florida admits this. You should watch that video report. It's really quite interesting.

An RNC funded company is under investigation in 2 separate states for tearing up Democratic registration cards.
Nathan Sproul. Google his name. There is a lot of interesting ews out there on him. His companies are apparently under investigation in several other states for voter fraud related charges.

Repulican Officials are doing everything they can to challenge the legitimacy of Democratic voter registration cards
35,000 people in Ohio are being told they can't vote because they used the wrong weight of paper for the registration cards. what the ****? They are definitely getting desperate.

I haven't seen any stories even similar to these coming out about the Democrats. If they exist, I would honestly love to see them. Although I'm a registered independant, my thought processes and opinions are more closely related to a moderate Republican than even a moderate Democrat. Bush does NOT represent the ideals of the Republican Party.

SonnyG8R
10-30-2004, 07:45 PM
http://c.myspace.com/00026/16/83/26433861_l.jpg

SonnyG8R
10-30-2004, 07:47 PM
and this is her with her mom:

http://c.myspace.com/00027/03/95/27695930_l.jpg

Is that a nipple I see? :D

LuKahnLi
10-30-2004, 08:04 PM
I dont buy it. Why havent the bigger news agencies jumped all over this prime story? NBC, CNN, and Fox had nothing on it.

Bigger news agencies are corporate owned....

techn9ne
10-30-2004, 08:26 PM
Where are all the Bushies to defend this?

get a life

Dr.Depravity
10-30-2004, 08:53 PM
Nice tits I mean pics sonny, or maybe I did mean tits. :)

PBDS
10-30-2004, 08:54 PM
and this is her with her mom:

http://c.myspace.com/00027/03/95/27695930_l.jpg

Is that a nipple I see? :D




Oh yeah, thats definitely a nipple!!!

bigpappy
10-31-2004, 04:39 AM
and this is her with her mom:

http://c.myspace.com/00027/03/95/27695930_l.jpg

Is that a nipple I see? :D


who are these hot ladies?