Why would Erik Morales "unify" only 2 of the 3 major belts? Is he avoiding the "Thai Tyson"?

Yodsanan Nanthachai - "3K Battery", "Thai Tyson"
WBA Superfeatherweight champion
43W(35KO's)-2L-1D
Notable wins:
*Steve Forbes - UD
*Ryuhei Sugita - TKO7
*Lamont Pearson - KO9
*Lakva Sim - UD12

Erik Morales - "El Terrible"
WBC & IBF Superfeatherweight champion
47W(34KO's)-1L-0D
Notable wins:
*Carlos Hernandez - UD
*Jesus Chavez - UD
*Guty Espadas - KO3

Note that i didn't mention Morales' impressive wins at 122~126.

Yodsanan IMO is a worthy opponent for him, good technical skills, real KO power and a proud champion...another warrior from Asia.

I hope this match-up happens before Morales goes lightweight.

Your thoughts.

I'm also praying that this fight would happen but Morales with Arum? :D Not a chance . . . Yodnasan is a very high risk and low reward fighter. While Morales would probably want to take a chance I don't think DIRTY Arum would allow it.

I'll throw all the money I have for Yodnasan if that fight happens. :cool:

I also want to see this fight but not before EM vs Pacman...

but if EM & PAC must fight one more opponent before they face each other I would love to see EM-3K Yodsanan and Pac-JMM II....

Why didn't you mention MAB, Paulie Ayala, or In-Jin Chi in his notable wins?

PRboxingfan, he just included the fights of EM in the superfeather...

Why didn't you mention MAB, Paulie Ayala, or In-Jin Chi in his notable wins?

Good question. I'm trying to make a point. At 130, Morales IMO wasn't really that impressive compared when he was at 122~126. He can't put away defense-deficient Famoso whom he's been hitting at will and a one-armed Chavez whom he KD'd in the early rounds; the TKO on Espadas was impressive, yes, but you have to consider the fact that they both just went up in weight at 130. This leaves me to think that he hasn't really taken the power with him at this weight class, but that's debatable, of course. Yodsanan on the other hand, has been fighting at this weight class longer than EM. He KO'd Pearson with just one body shot, systematically dismantled the bigger Sugita with body punches, and although he wasn't able to KO Lakva Sim (the former WBA Lightweight champ) who was able to anyway not even Juan Diaz. If you have seen Juan Diaz-Lakva Sim which was a non-stop slugfest, then you can imagine the same scenario with 3K-Sim. Now, we are mentioning bigger & heavier boys here not the Ayalas, MABs or Chis. Size does matter. Steve Forbes was listed as 5'8 and 3K as 5'6, but during the fight underneath Corrales-Freitas, 3K was actually bigger than the Mongoose. I reckon 3K has a good chance of beating EM. He can box, counterpunch and if he can bring EM to brawl with him, even better.

BTW, 3K sought fights with Freitas, Barrios, The Galaxy Warrior and the Ghost as well. These fights never happened.

Yes, I remember that 3K fight but I only saw the end of it. EM did bring his power to 130 evidenced by his KDing Chavez two times in the second, the first two times of his career. Nobody else had KD'd Chavez, not even Mayweather who won a TKO against him when his corner tossed in the towel. Mayweather was making him look stupid and won every round, but never KD'd him.

I'd love to see more of 3K, especially if he's willing to fight the best (as I'm sure he is). EM is not afraid of anyone but he is looking for recognition and $$$, neither of which will come from fighting Battery. It's a sorry truth, but it's still the truth.

are Pac fans actually still crying about Arum? I mean they do know the Pac/Marquez rematch is happening in Febuary right...you know like Arum has been saying all along*rolleyes*

as far as the fight

Its hard to say anyone is avoiding him when he has only fought outside of Thailand twice(once in Japan and once in the USA).

His two best wins are over Sim and Forbes and both of those guys are second rate. Sim vs Diaz wasn't a slugfest that was a one sided ass whoopin, Sim wasn't even competative in that fight. Steve Forbes is an alright fighter, but he is far from world class.

LaMont Pearson isn't a top ten guy at 130.

3-K still needs more exposure as of right now he has done nothing to earn a shot at Morales. You have to remember everyone at 126-135 wants a shot at Morales cause he's the big payday. Im sorry but a win over Steve Forbes aint saying much.

3K wants Morales. Freitas as well. As you just said, for recognition and $$$. Morales isn't afraid of anybody but is avoiding somebody. 3K might even follow him at lightweight. He can fight up to welter, but it won't be good for him. The thing is, he has ran out of quality opposition in Asia at 130...Randy Suico of the Phils. is good but there's no money & recognition in that fight.

If he can't have a fight with Morales, who do you think 3K can fight at 130 to get some attention in the US?

3K wants Morales. Freitas as well. As you just said, for recognition and $$$. Morales isn't afraid of anybody but is avoiding somebody. 3K might even follow him at lightweight. He can fight up to welter, but it won't be good for him. The thing is, he has ran out of quality opposition in Asia at 130...Randy Suico of the Phils. is good but there's no money & recognition in that fight.

If he can't have a fight with Morales, who do you think 3K can fight at 130 to get some attention in the US?

Pay attention.NO ONE is avoiding him. Hell he's only fought outside of Thailand twice.

Like I said as of right now he hasn't even done anything to earn a shot. As far as quality opponents go all the quality is fighting in the USA right now.

He should try fighting guys like Hernandez and Chavez to see how he stacks up. Maybe move up to 135 cause its likey Morales is heading to 135 also cause thats where the big fights are.

Jose, the thread is about 3K-Morales. :rolleyes:

I understand that you are PacMan-fan-hater.

"3-K still needs more exposure as of right now he has done nothing to earn a shot at Morales."

Like what kind of exposure exactly? Please suggest some names for 3K to bust up to earn a shot at Morales.

Jose, the thread is about 3K-Morales. :rolleyes:

I understand that you are PacMan-fan-hater.

"3-K still needs more exposure as of right now he has done nothing to earn a shot at Morales."

Like what kind of exposure exactly? Please suggest some names for 3K to bust up to earn a shot at Morales.


I know what the thread is about.

Like try fighting on US TV everyonce in awhile or maybe coming outside of Thailand. gusy at 130-135 Juan Diaz, Julio Diaz, Joel Cassamayor, Jesus Chavez, Carlos Hernandez, Acelino Frietas, Diego Corrales.

quality fighters aint hard to find in that area.

I know your exicted cause you got a Thai fighter and all, but Im sorry beating Steve Forbes aint impressive. To even try and suggest Morales is avoiding him is just flat out foolish.

I know what the thread is about.

Like try fighting on US TV everyonce in awhile or maybe coming outside of Thailand. gusy at 130-135 Juan Diaz, Julio Diaz, Joel Cassamayor, Jesus Chavez, Carlos Hernandez, Acelino Frietas, Diego Corrales.

quality fighters aint hard to find in that area.

I know your exicted cause you got a Thai fighter and all, but Im sorry beating Steve Forbes aint impressive. To even try and suggest Morales is avoiding him is just flat out foolish.


His management tried to get Freitas and Barrios. I guess they don't want to have anything to do with 3K...and I'm entitled to my "avoiding" opinion. Anyway, he just hooked up with a US-based promoter, that should help get meaningful fights for him like Chavez and Hernandez, Morales would've gone lightweight by this time if it ever happens. Morales is the big payday $$$ name nowadays, i have to agree with that.

Morales is fighting Barrera first. 3k has shown himself to be legit. I would be suprised if Morales left him behind.

I doubt Morales moves any higher up than 130 anyways.

Saw 3k on a fight on espn early this year, very boring fighter.

LOL LOL, This has to be the funniest thing I've ever seen. Morales scared of 3k battery. That was a good joke.

LOL LOL, This has to be the funniest thing I've ever seen. Morales scared of 3k battery. That was a good joke.

..and you're even much funnier. Nobody ever mentions that Morales is scared of 3K. Avoiding. In a tactical bizniz perpective.

@ Bigtex : You saw 3K at ESPN early this year huh? You must've seen the other 3K's out there, like Fahsan against Art Simonyan. The real 3K fought just last August. :rolleyes:

i would like to see yodsanan fight both morales and pacquaio!! that would be awesome! close fights!!

Yodsanan 3K the WBA superfeatherweight champion of the world has yet to earn the right to face Morales, that's the overwhelming consensus here bandito. It just intrigues me of the fact that Eddie Croft (who?) was unranked and inactive for almost 3 years when he fought Erik Morales, what did Croft do to "earn" this? Someone enlighten me here, perhaps Jose.

Pacquiao doesn't want anything to do with Yodsanan 3K, you can quote me on that. I have the copy of the local boxing mag Muay Loke ("Boxing World") with Pac's photo on the cover. Before the PacMan fans jump on me, the words he said was "...I don't want to fight him (3K) at the moment...i want a rematch with Marquez" ;)

Morales-Yodsanan is a good match-up. But, 3K is too big for Pac IMO.

Yodsanan 3K the WBA superfeatherweight champion of the world has yet to earn the right to face Morales, that's the overwhelming consensus here bandito. It just intrigues me of the fact that Eddie Croft (who?) was unranked and inactive for almost 3 years when he fought Erik Morales, what did Croft do to "earn" this? Someone enlighten me here, perhaps Jose.

Pacquiao doesn't want anything to do with Yodsanan 3K, you can quote me on that. I have the copy of the local boxing mag Muay Loke ("Boxing World") with Pac's photo on the cover. Before the PacMan fans jump on me, the words he said was "...I don't want to fight him (3K) at the moment...i want a rematch with Marquez" ;)

Morales-Yodsanan is a good match-up. But, 3K is too big for Pac IMO.

I also don't get it why Yodsanan need a shot at Morales, EM went for 2 belts already and to close the show at SF he has to face the other champion 3K Yodsanan....

Muay Thai, I would also agree that at the moment 3K is out of the list for Pac, but not for reason that he is to big, its clear Pac wants to fight Marquez first and next target is Erick Morales that is the plan, after these two fights we Pac Fans can look forward to other fights....

I agree Jomapac. Pac may never fight 3K anyway, from the same mag (Muay Loke)...Pac was quoted as saying that he desires to fight Morales only, then his biz with 130 is done, he goes back to 126. 3K on the other hand may chase El Terrible up to lightweight...so they're going at different directions. It's sad that 3K may just end up fighting mandatories here in Thailand like long-time WBC bantam champ Veeraphol Sahaprom.

Randy Suico will be a good test for Yodsanan. Beating Suico would not raise Yodsanan's recognition the same way as Morales' beating him. So why not fight just to prove oneself?

Epie

Yodsanan has proven himself in my opinion. Stevie Forbes was a top 10 130 lber and 3k beat his ass. Yodsanan doesn't have to prove anything anymore, what he should do is seek the upper echolon of opponents. Maybe fight Nate Campbell or someone like that.

I agree Jomapac. Pac may never fight 3K anyway, from the same mag (Muay Loke)...Pac was quoted as saying that he desires to fight Morales only, then his biz with 130 is done, he goes back to 126. 3K on the other hand may chase El Terrible up to lightweight...so they're going at different directions. It's sad that 3K may just end up fighting mandatories here in Thailand like long-time WBC bantam champ Veeraphol Sahaprom.


Muay Thai, what you quoted pac as saying is totally accurate his target is to fight EM at 130 and go back to 126 to close the show at 126....

For Yodsasnan, he has proved already how good he is, to Asian fans, I hope he will have his break to show how good he is on the other side of the planet....

I don't think 3K has proven himself in the eyes of the Western world yet. He needs to get some recognition before going for Morales, IMHO. He needs to fight smaller fish like Casamayor, Peden, Hernandez, and Chavez. Any one of these people will be more than willing to take his WBA title away from him (or, fight for it at least). I'd take Casamayor and Chavez over 3K, but not the other two.

I know what the thread is about.

Like try fighting on US TV everyonce in awhile or maybe coming outside of Thailand. gusy at 130-135 Juan Diaz, Julio Diaz, Joel Cassamayor, Jesus Chavez, Carlos Hernandez, Acelino Frietas, Diego Corrales.

quality fighters aint hard to find in that area.

I know your exicted cause you got a Thai fighter and all, but Im sorry beating Steve Forbes aint impressive. To even try and suggest Morales is avoiding him is just flat out foolish.


Right his victory against Forbes was not really impressive . . . but that's because of jitters . . . his fight fight in U.S. But if that's his only fight you've seen . . . you ain't seen nothing yet . . . I was so suprised to see the guy fight so passive and lazy . . . that is not the YODNASAN that I knew. . . but as I said maybe because of jitters . . . maybe he was so concius on his first fight in the U.S. soil.

I don't think 3K has proven himself in the eyes of the Western world yet. He needs to get some recognition before going for Morales, IMHO. He needs to fight smaller fish like Casamayor, Peden, Hernandez, and Chavez. Any one of these people will be more than willing to take his WBA title away from him (or, fight for it at least). I'd take Casamayor and Chavez over 3K, but not the other two.

PR, as I've mentioned in my previous post, 3K's mgt. team sought Freitas, Barrios (a mandatory challenger!), The Ghost Guerrero and The Galaxy Warrior Campbell to get the 1) recognition and to 2) to prove himself in the eyes of the Western world as you & Jose put it accurately. The problem is...they don't want to fight him. High Risk/Low Reward? He got some kind of luck in fighting Steve Forbes, and i wish he gets lucky again next time. Is Eddie Croft who was unranked, inactive for almost 3 years and has lost 3 consecutive times going into the Morales fight a "recognized" fighter & has rightly "earned" this match-up? Now, we have a legit WBA champ and he gets no meaningful fight in the US?

Anyways, Casamayor and Chavez are good fights. Casa would be tough because of his style, someone who comes forward to bang will make 3K look good like Famoso and Chavez.

Why didn't you mention MAB, Paulie Ayala, or In-Jin Chi in his notable wins?


I GUESS FOR HIM THEY ARENT.

..and you're even much funnier. Nobody ever mentions that Morales is scared of 3K. Avoiding. In a tactical bizniz perpective.

@ Bigtex : You saw 3K at ESPN early this year huh? You must've seen the other 3K's out there, like Fahsan against Art Simonyan. The real 3K fought just last August. :rolleyes:

Hey bro, is the fight you are talking about held in thailand? I've never seen this 3K and i was just wondering if he's the one i just got a glimpse of, he was fighting a white guy (by his looks i can tell he was a european guy) and the fight was won by this thailander by a decision. Is this the boxer you are talking about here?

Hey bro, is the fight you are talking about held in thailand? I've never seen this 3K and i was just wondering if he's the one i just got a glimpse of, he was fighting a white guy (by his looks i can tell he was a european guy) and the fight was won by this thailander by a decision. Is this the boxer you are talking about here?

thai vs white lol you gotta be more specific than that

Randy Suico will be a good test for Yodsanan. Beating Suico would not raise Yodsanan's recognition the same way as Morales' beating him. So why not fight just to prove oneself?


Epie, 3K is looking past the PI...towards the US. Suico could become a mandatory challenger being ranked #4, so his chance will come. Fana exposed Suico, he relies on his KO power only to win...he needs to improve on his technique and develop lateral movement (footwork, side-to-side head mov't., bobbing-&-weaving). Hooking up with Goosen or Roach perhaps. ;)

BTW, i don't think they will meet, not at the moment at least...3K & Suico, if I'm not mistaken, are both Teikken fighters of Akihiko Honda.

I GUESS FOR HIM THEY ARENT.


They are kb8mvp. This thread is about Morales-3K at Superfeather 130-lbs. I suggest you read some of the posts from 1st page, if it's not a pain...all of 'em.;)

thai vs white lol you gotta be more specific than that

ok he was a caucasian guy, do you know what i was talking about? i mean the fight that i was referring to? the thai boxer was punching really good (i could tell because when his punches landed, sweats was coming off from this caucasian fighter like a spill).

chito, mooks

The Thai was Fahsan 3K (rings a bell?;)) and the other guy was Art Simonyan last May at ESPN...in a superbantam eliminator fight.

Both moving punching bags...errr tune-up (3K) and sparring partners (Art) for the PacMan.

I'm bumping this thread up to be side-by-side with Morales-Corrales and Morales-Pacquiao.

Now...

Morales-Yodsanan 3K, who wins and why?

...and please don't say that 3K has yet to earn a shot, it has been discussed already in the previous 3 pages of this thread.

Your thoughts. thanks. :)