I have been training pretty hard for a fight in August and I am wondering how hard is hard enough. I mean I know this a question that does not have a black and white answer but...

Like today i was doing intense mitts with my trainer and was finishing with some uppercuts and had to quit on the last session. I was wondering is my trainer thinking I am a ***** or thinking I am pushing myself to the limit. I mean I felt like my body was going to explode or I was gonna fall over. Bottom line is how do you know you are pushing yourself to the absolute ****ing limit without getting hurt or something like that?

After that mitts session I sat down on a chair for a minute or so almost dying and sweating like a ****ing faucet wondering this in my head...Should I or Could I have pushed it more. I know this is a difficult question but any help or advice would be apreciated..

PS: I am not even sure what i am asking but if you have boxed before I have a suspicion you will understand..

dan

i don't have a definite answer to that... but you have to make sure u always have to work harder than your opponent...

more importantly, u have to defeat urself in training camp.

When you get to that point where your abosolutely knackered, your techniques getting sloppy, your heads pounding and your gasping like a fish, you can go further than that. Its mental fitness. Next time your on the mitts, get to your point of no return, and just think to yourself, 30 seconds more and i can rest, ill give it my all. You wont be able to count that 30 seconds, but your coach will notice your sudden increase in effort and be able to appreciate your working past your limit. Hope this helps.

dan,
The way I see it, the human body is ALWAYS capable of being pushed more. The end is death. So, I think that really pushing yourself to the limit is subjective; if you feel like you really gave it your all, and you really feel confident in what you're doing, you can stop whenever you feel the time is right. Just realize that even though you've pushed yourself to the ultimate limit, on say, pushups, in another 10 seconds you will ALWAYS be able to do another pushup. Have you pushed yourself for that short time period - yes. Have you pushed yourself to the ultimate limit; well, that's hard to answer, because what is really your "limit" (because you can always do more in a very short rest period).

There's this movie with ethan hawke called "gattica".
In it he plays a "natural born" - a guy who's parents had him the old fashioned way and didn't genetically engineer him.
As a result he had asthma and wasn't the greatest physical specimen.
His brother, however, was one of these engineered kids.
His brother and he would race in swimming; to see how far out they could swim, knowing they had to swim back.
One time, lo-and-behold, the "inferior" kid whooped his brother.
They never raced again and it always haunted the "perfect" brother.
He asked him "how did you beat me that day? Swimming out that far, even losing to you, I didn't think I'd make it back..."
The brother told him "That day, I swam out with the full knowledge that I WASN'T going to swim back".

In other words, don't hold anything back when you're working out.
If you pass out while working pads, then your coach will keep a better eye on you the next time. I wouldn't worry too much about a heart attack, unless you've got a heart condition or are past your mid 30s.
I think you'll find that you do make it through the pad round.
I think you'll find that the worst that happens is that your body just stops listening to you- your punches start coming out more slowly even if you're willing yourself to go all out.
That's the point your coach wants you to get to because that's the point where your heart is going to carry you through the fight.
If you're hitting that point in your training, consider it a blessing.
Just remember to breathe out the bad air.

Overtraining does not come from these moments, it comes from not taking time off when your body needs it - working out while sore too many times.
I know I'm overtraining when the idea of going to the gym & working hard fills me with dread, or when I start getting a cold/sore throat, or when I start losing my temper for no reason all the time.

You need heart wheres the heart in quitting?

You need heart wheres the heart in quitting?
Are you serious with this comment?

No need to post a waste of time comment like this.

MY BODY quit pal, don't tell me what I need.

Are you serious with this comment?

No need to post a waste of time comment like this.

MY BODY quit pal, don't tell me what I need. We will jump in for a session and I will show you some heart.

Make it happen. I can see you quitting on your stool after a round because your tired and quit. Again.

Make it happen. I can see you quitting on your stool after a round because your tired and quit. Again.
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what does this mean?

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what does this mean?

Never mind. You need to push yourself outside of your limits. But, if you pysically couldn't force yourself to do it you need more heart, better fitness and to work harder.

Never mind. You need to push yourself outside of your limits. But, if you pysically couldn't force yourself to do it you need more heart, better fitness and to work harder.
Ok... I will take this for what its worth...

Ok... I will take this for what its worth...

You trying to pick a fight here? I gave you advice its not my fault your lazy ass gassed out on the pads.

You trying to pick a fight here? I gave you advice its not my fault your lazy ass gassed out on the pads.
No I am not trying to pick a fight. I was just saying I will take your advice for what its worth but the truth is your advice had no thought and was a very simple BLACK AND WHITE answer. You basically said you have no heart scrub. You do not know me at all and I was trying to get some legitimate advice from people who actually box. I was hoping for some intelligent feedback and you provided me with same childish writings that are prevalent in the non stop boxing forum. So for what its worth thank you for taking the time to answer my thread but your advice was not what I was looking for.

No I am not trying to pick a fight. I was just saying I will take your advice for what its worth but the truth is your advice had no thought and was a very simple BLACK AND WHITE answer. You basically said you have no heart scrub. You do not know me at all and I was trying to get some legitimate advice from people who actually box. I was hoping for some intelligent feedback and you provided me with same childish writings that are prevalent in the non stop boxing forum. So for what its worth thank you for taking the time to answer my thread but your advice was not what I was looking for.

You want advice and I gave you it and you can;t take the criticism. You were not fit enough to carry on. Right? So you can get fitter. Right? You realise you could have pushed yourself. Right? Something no one on here can encourage you to do at the gym when your tired. Right?

So in what way was it not helpful what do ya want?

You want advice and I gave you it and you can;t take the criticism. You were not fit enough to carry on. Right? So you can get fitter. Right? You realise you could have pushed yourself. Right? Something no one on here can encourage you to do at the gym when your tired. Right?

So in what way was it not helpful what do ya want?
It was helpful..thank you

what i personally do is just try to focus away from the job for the last few secs if im getting tired. my rule of thumb is when i feel like i might throw up or if my head gets too light, thats a sign that ive pushed myself too far

Mate I think you answered your own question, you made this thread with doubt in your mind, so therefor could be working harder. I'm not questioning that your working hard or not, but that you could push yourself slightly more which will get you to that next level. A good way to solve this bro is doing a punch out drill when you think you can't go on, this will make sure you are pushing your mind and body's fatigue to the limit. But be careful not to burn yourself out before the fight mate :)

Watz cracking Danny boy?

I guess your coach took you to a level you've never reached before. Don't beat up yourself too much for quiting. I hear what your saying when your body gives out and you feel that you can't physically throw anymore. Next time keep your hands up, get on your bike and move out of range, keep moving and catch your breath. Remember some of the best fighters are also very good at knowing how to catch their breath. That's exactly what Hatton said about Floyd.

THANK YOU MY MAN....


Good advice, sometimes I (we all) forget simple things like getting out and taking a break. Good stuff!!!

THANK YOU MY MAN....


Good advice, sometimes I (we all) forget simple things like getting out and taking a break. Good stuff!!!
Is that ali bomber still boxing at ur gym?? i wanna knuckle that lad, he really pisses me off with his ****ty slow motion videos n talking **** abt gng pro

Everybody has a limit. Just push yourself to it each time and it'll get further and further away.

haha, i've heard some stupid answers in this thread. My favourites are the one who said you can always push further - the only end is death! ahahaha.

The other is obviously where if you are so tired you collapse...YOU HAVE NO HEART!

Rubbish. Everyone has a limit.

Work hard and you'll be ok. Sounds like you're pushing yourself as much as you can and that's as much as you can do.

Relax!

i dont know how anyone can give this guy critacism or say he has no heart?

how can you possibly know how hard he already pushed himself?

their get a point when your body is absloutley F***** and you feel knackerd, you know when youve reached that point because youve , your continsusley passing points if you know what i mean,

you get knackerd, you keep going further, you get knackerd, you keep going further,........................................ev entulyy you gotta stop and breath,

your body will be better and fitter the next time, you cant posibbly keep on going untill you become ill and or yoou will come back to the gym worse......


you seem to know youve pushed your self and that ok,
aslong as you know in your head that youve pushed your self to ur limt then its ok,

but boxings not life or death no matter how much you want it, you push yourself to your limits as much you can , but dont go over your limit

Is that ali bomber still boxing at ur gym?? i wanna knuckle that lad, he really pisses me off with his ****ty slow motion videos n talking **** abt gng pro
Yes Ali Bomber is still working everyday very hard. Granted he is far from pro status but I do feel he has the natural talent and work ethic to be a successful pro boxer...

As long as he sits down on his punches..LOL (for you juan)