it can be said that tyson indeed needed the lewis fight but lewis needed the tyson fight more. lewis needed that defining fight in his career that would be the defining fight. not so much that it was the best fight but more that it was tyson. some could argue that evander was more the defining fight. what do you think?

Lewis' bank account needed Tyson, his legacy didn't. If he fought him in 93-96', that would have been a different story. The Holyfield fights were more signifigant for him.(Lewis)

agreed. The $ was big, the historical significance was not . . .

Lennox Lewis Is Such A Boring Fighter To Watch.

Lennox's two Evander "wins" were very entertaining, because both guys showed-up conditioned and ready to mix-it-up. Tyson on the other hand was a shell of his former self, largely because of his lifestyle (i.e. no conditioning).

By the way, if you really think that Lennox hand $$ on his mind, what do you think Mike was there for? At least Lennox's $$ are in the black!

Lennox Lewis Is Such A Boring Fighter To Watch.


I don't agree. I realize his laziness sometimes irritated, but my thoughts before a Lewis fight were that of an "event". I always enjoyed watching him fight, regardless of the outcome.

it can be said that tyson indeed needed the lewis fight but lewis needed the tyson fight more. lewis needed that defining fight in his career that would be the defining fight. not so much that it was the best fight but more that it was tyson. some could argue that evander was more the defining fight. what do you think?

I agree completely, although I would have liked to have seen them duke it out a couple of years earlier....

Lewis' bank account needed Tyson, his legacy didn't. If he fought him in 93-96', that would have been a different story. The Holyfield fights were more signifigant for him.(Lewis)


historically i think that a ko victory of tyson would have more of an impact that a descision and a draw with the real deal. tyson had more of an impact on the bioxing world than evander did. although i like evander way more than i do tyson i still see tysons name being the more talked about. thats why i think the ko victory over tyson was more needed to be the defining fight of his career.

Lewis was a good fighter, but would never pay to watch him unless it was tyson of course.

I agree completely, although I would have liked to have seen them duke it out a couple of years earlier....

i agree. unfortunately that never happened.

historically i think that a ko victory of tyson would have more of an impact that a descision and a draw with the real deal. tyson had more of an impact on the bioxing world than evander did. although i like evander way more than i do tyson i still see tysons name being the more talked about. thats why i think the ko victory over tyson was more needed to be the defining fight of his career.

not at that point of Tyson's career. Maybe with non-boxing fans, but not with knowledgable boxing fans like us.

not at that point of Tyson's career. Maybe with non-boxing fans, but not with knowledgable boxing fans like us.


yeah i know that we know the tyson lewis beat was far beyond a prime tyson but really evander was also old and on his way to being less than top class.

yeah i know that we know the tyson lewis beat was far beyond a prime tyson but really evander was also old and on his way to being less than top class.

Wasn't Evander at a good point in his career at the time of the Lewis fights? I think those fights were the beginning of the end for Evander

Lennox Lewis Is Such A Boring Fighter To Watch.

His bouts against Briggs, Klitschko, Holyfield 1, Tyson, Mercer, Golota and Ruddock were pretty exciting. That is more exciting fights then most heavyweights have had in the last ten years or so.

lewis neva fought the real tyson

What other way would there be to prove yourself as an all-time great than knocking out Mike Tyson? That's what Lewis was thinking.

What other way would there be to prove yourself as an all-time great than knocking out Mike Tyson? That's what Lewis was thinking.

exactly the way i feel. even if tyson was washed up at the time.

[QUOTE=asian_sensation]What other way would there be to prove yourself as an all-time great than knocking out Mike Tyson? That's what Lewis was thinking.

I feel the same way. But I would like to see what would happen if Mike got off the drugs and then fought someone. Lets see if its the drugs or if he has really calmed down to the point of no return.

He needed it too fullfill his record and by the time i think he did, he should retired than instead of meeting klitschko when not fully prepared, and then retiring after a so close match.
It makes his record a big?

yes he needed him, but what he really needed was a great fight, not fight great like he did. The Tyson fight really didn't prove really anything.

yes he needed him, but what he really needed was a great fight, not fight great like he did. The Tyson fight really didn't prove really anything.

he didnt need $ vs tyson its for his record, that he had fight/beat everyone. but after kliscko fight i would like to see rematch. :(, its good that lewis quite on top, btw i havent seen lewis got dominated in any fight, beside ray mercer fight. he dominated it also but mercer landed a lot heavy puncher. :)

he got dominated for the most part of the Vitaly fight. Have to say that he came back strong in the middle rounds. I think that his seize also has to do with him not being dominated. It's not easy to dominate when you are fighting a giant like Lewis. Only a fellow giant with just as much skill could do that. Vitaly would seem the man for the job. Damn, I want that rematch bad!

Lennox Lewis Is Such A Boring Fighter To Watch.

He's a smart fighter, and they can sometimes be boring to watch, for a fan who's strictly into brawls. I liked all his fights, though....I enjoy a fighter who thinks his way through a bout. However, I have to say that his best performance in the ring was against Klitchko. I'd never seen him trade like that before. Exciting as hell for me :)

In fact, that was one of the best heavyweight fights I've ever watched.

he got dominated for the most part of the Vitaly fight. Have to say that he came back strong in the middle rounds. I think that his seize also has to do with him not being dominated. It's not easy to dominate when you are fighting a giant like Lewis. Only a fellow giant with just as much skill could do that. Vitaly would seem the man for the job. Damn, I want that rematch bad!

It's far too late for a rematch. Lewis is too old. I don't want to see another retired champ come back and take a beating at the hands of a younger, stronger fighter. No fun in that at all. Just be happy with that one spectacular heavyweight fight, watch it over and over, and be glad you were there to see it live. Trust me, it's one that will be talked about for another 50 years, and will go down as one of the greatest heavyweight fights ever. It had all the "goodies". An aging champ, two huge guys with power in both hands, a young challenger who wasn't expected to do much more than show up and fall down.....it has it all, fellas. It may not be something people rave about now, but mark what I say....it'll be the one people remember most of this era.

i disagree, i think the tyson fight elevated lewis to his highest point. just look at what danny williams did he beat a ****ty version of tyson then lewis did and he got a title shot. tyson is big, if u beat him your career goes up.

"the tyson fight elevated lewis to his highest point". Perhaps in the eyes of the main public, not to me. Tyson just isn't capable of making a decent comeback. His style doesn't support it, and his age and mental state arent't helping either. He is not capable of doing against Williams and he wasn't capable when he fougth Lewis. Sure I would like to see Tyson fight again, but I know that will not see him win again. (at least not against a real contender)

"the tyson fight elevated lewis to his highest point". Perhaps in the eyes of the main public, not to me. Tyson just isn't capable of making a decent comeback. His style doesn't support it, and his age and mental state arent't helping either. He is not capable of doing against Williams and he wasn't capable when he fougth Lewis. Sure I would like to see Tyson fight again, but I know that will not see him win again. (at least not against a real contender)


well who cares about u, if the public sees it and u dont o well.

aah, you smart yes?

aah, you smart yes?


nah im stupid

well who cares about u, if the public sees it and u dont o well.
lol, i would like to see tyson come back and win. but we all know tyson cant do it. he is to short and slow now, a yound mike got a lot of movement, mike now cant never got that again. his head is f* like holyfield,ali etc. :rolleyes:

I don't believe that Holyfield's head is F*? Why would you think so? he seems to have trouble speeking a bit, but his mind seems to be o.k. to me?

I think he did need to beat Mike for his legacy. He was always respected as being a great fighter but everyone always had the question in their minds as to what would happen if Lennox were to face Mike. I know they didnt fight in their primes (at least not Mike's) but I do think the destruction of Mike Tyson did do a lot for the legacy of Lennox Lewis. There are really no questions left unanswered as far as Lennox's carrer, except maybe the question of what would have happened with a Vitali rematch.

I think he did need to beat Mike for his legacy. He was always respected as being a great fighter but everyone always had the question in their minds as to what would happen if Lennox were to face Mike. I know they didnt fight in their primes (at least not Mike's) but I do think the destruction of Mike Tyson did do a lot for the legacy of Lennox Lewis. There are really no questions left unanswered as far as Lennox's carrer, except maybe the question of what would have happened with a Vitali rematch.

My mind exactly i was about to write the same.

yes he needed tyson because tyson was the last big name on his list, and when people look back on lewis's record in years to come all they will see is that lewis beat tyson, it's as simple as that

I don't believe that Holyfield's head is F*? Why would you think so? he seems to have trouble speeking a bit, but his mind seems to be o.k. to me?

he still fight and he is over 42 years old. he have fight almost all his life. think how much punches he have take. he/his friends know he can get kill in the ring if he keept fighting. obviosly he is not clear in the head.

Foreman fought at a later age and he seems to be doing ok.

Tyson was a shot and finished fighter when Lewis beat him. There wasn`t much point in the fight except money. Shame on HBO for letting Tyson fight that fight in this condition, shame!!!

Tyson was a shot and finished fighter when Lewis beat him. There wasn`t much point in the fight except money. Shame on HBO for letting Tyson fight that fight in this condition, shame!!!

He was under contract with Showtime then.

He was under contract with Showtime then.
Yes, but HBO screened the telecast and without there intervention Tyson psycho episode at their Press Confenerce would have ended the whole thing. HBO saved the shoe because Mike lost his temper and Showtime were out bid!
HOW DARE HBO SEND TYSON OUT LIKE THAT, AND THE BUTT OF THE JOKE IS THE LEWIS FIGHT SHOWED TYSONS BEST FORM IN YEARS!!

HOW DARE HBO SEND TYSON OUT LIKE THAT, AND THE BUTT OF THE JOKE IS THE LEWIS FIGHT SHOWED TYSONS BEST FORM IN YEARS!!
yeah but only for one round :D

yeah but only for one round :D
EXACTLY!! That was Tyson`s best one round in 7 fights.
It`s all he had left God save him!

Lewis was interviewed on Jonathan Ross show recently. They didnt show a clip of him beating the RealDeal, they showed him knocking out Tyson which means...it really does add to his legacy. Tyson may have been stopped by Williams recently but he was the 1st to end the hype since Tyson started coming on the comeback trail again.

To me, Lewis` win over Holyfield meant more than his win over Tyson. Evander put up a much better fight even in their first than Tyson did in any round of their fight!