View Full Version : Roy Jones A P4p Great...not For Me!!


1g5a22
05-11-2008, 01:30 PM
i know a lot of americans worship this guy,but i wouldnt put him in my top 20!!

a lots made of the multi weight champion thing and dont get me wrong im a fan, but for me the hype outweighs the man he didnt impress me at LHW(tarver,johnson etc)and the heavyweight thing was a joke

he roided up to take on a (just above average) heavyweight and yes he clearly won but it was one guy!

at SMW and MW he is undoubtedly great,a great modern day fighter but an all time p4p great,naahhhh

aussieboxer2320
05-14-2008, 03:17 AM
hmm, ill have to disagree there, he has beaten some great fighters, first in 100 years to become middleweight then heavyweight champ.......awesome physical attributes, weak chin yes, but solid in every other category.........id say he has a place with some of the greats, not as good as ray robinson or leonard duran etc....but definetley up there, one of the the best of his generation

The Noose
05-14-2008, 05:16 AM
IMO Jones is a ATG.




1. He beat Hopkins with ease and Hopkins had MORE fights than Jones.
2. He moved up to SMW and easily beat Toney who was 44-0.
3. He was ahead on the scorecards and about to stop Griffin when he was DQ'd. He then KTFO Griffin in 1 round.
4. Jones won 7 world titles at 4 weights, moving from middle to heavy and back down to LHW.

Nunn was SMW champion from 92-94, Jones was champ from 94-96, Benn was lost his belt to Malinga. So he should have fought Michalczewski and Lilles. Im not sure what other great fighters Jones didnt fight.

beefymoocow
05-14-2008, 10:24 AM
yeah and jones is fast and strong. Roy jones also was robbed out of a gold medal at the olympics in 1988.

THE REED™
05-14-2008, 10:27 AM
i know a lot of americans worship this guy,but i wouldnt put him in my top 20!!

a lots made of the multi weight champion thing and dont get me wrong im a fan, but for me the hype outweighs the man he didnt impress me at LHW(tarver,johnson etc)and the heavyweight thing was a joke

he roided up to take on a (just above average) heavyweight and yes he clearly won but it was one guy!

at SMW and MW he is undoubtedly great,a great modern day fighter but an all time p4p great,naahhhh

get your FACTS straight, before retarded **** starts coming out of your mouth

1g5a22
05-14-2008, 11:50 AM
get your FACTS straight, before retarded **** starts coming out of your mouth
ohhhhh, someone said something derogatory about roid jones jr,whats retarded about saying i dont agree with YOU!!

what facts are ****,i said hes a great fighter but all this heavyweight champ ****,what a joke!

1g5a22
05-14-2008, 11:57 AM
hmm, ill have to disagree there, he has beaten some great fighters, first in 100 years to become middleweight then heavyweight champ.......awesome physical attributes, weak chin yes, but solid in every other category.........id say he has a place with some of the greats, not as good as ray robinson or leonard duran etc....but definetley up there, one of the the best of his generationold fighters smaller than jones were regularly fighting top heavyweights back in the day,on guts full of beef and beer not steroids,i dont rate that acheievement

THE REED™
05-14-2008, 11:58 AM
ohhhhh, someone said something derogatory about roid jones jr,whats retarded about saying i dont agree with YOU!!

what facts are ****,i said hes a great fighter but all this heavyweight champ ****,what a joke!

he tested positive once for an over the counter chemical called andro... back in 2001... when it was still legal... every other test came back negative and that includes the ruiz one... i dont defend roy if someone says something factual.. facts are facts, and i wont defend them... what you said isnt a fact... u cant **** w me on roys history ill run circles around you

1g5a22
05-14-2008, 12:16 PM
he tested positive once for an over the counter chemical called andro... back in 2001... when it was still legal... every other test came back negative and that includes the ruiz one... i dont defend roy if someone says something factual.. facts are facts, and i wont defend them... what you said isnt a fact... u cant **** w me on roys history ill run circles around you
you the man on roy,lol!

**** it im off to wikipedia,see you in 5,it is the font of wisdom!!

respect for your passion on the sport anyway kiddo

THE REED™
05-14-2008, 12:23 PM
read this thread... i broke it down

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=167638

1g5a22
05-14-2008, 12:32 PM
read this thread... i broke it down

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=167638

good read,i get what your saying,but im afraid when it comes to jones i cannot be converted,

maybe im a bit old fashioned but when u study boxing history and compare what those guys did,his achievements pale in comparison,i respect his talent and im not discrediting him or you,but some people think hes the best thing since sliced bread

read my thread below if you can be arsed

laters.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=180690

THE REED™
05-14-2008, 12:38 PM
i dont think hes the best ever.... but he is an atg... not top 20 either... not yet... if he beats joe calz.. then yes he is

1g5a22
05-14-2008, 12:41 PM
i dont think hes the best ever.... but he is an atg... not top 20 either... not yet... if he beats joe calz.. then yes he is
ok,,,:boxing:

MWMerlino
05-26-2008, 06:21 PM
You don't need to be converted you need to stop hating. You sound ridiculous trying to belittled RJJ's obvious talent and wide range of accomplishment. This coming from some body who considers DLH one of his p4p favorites.

1g5a22
05-26-2008, 06:34 PM
You don't need to be converted you need to stop hating. You sound ridiculous trying to belittled RJJ's obvious talent and wide range of accomplishment. This coming from some body who considers DLH one of his p4p favorites.
steroids belittle something too...

ask his wife.

MWMerlino
05-26-2008, 06:56 PM
lol you talk about him like he ****ed your girlfriend, get over it!

AKATheMack
05-26-2008, 07:01 PM
What do you mean by ATG? He was definitely an ATG SMW, and in my opinion an ATG LHW. Maybe not an ATG p4p, but hes up there.