View Full Version : school me on the light heavyweights.....


AntonTheGreat
05-02-2008, 05:35 PM
i gotta say i don't know much about light heavyweights,i've seen chegui torres and my interest really came from him being my cousins uncle,but i've always wondered about michael moorer and ezzard charles.anybody have any of there fights,particularly charles vs louis and any fight at light heavy of moorer's?i'm to see how good they where.any knowledge of how good these two where at that weight?

Lazy Liberal
05-02-2008, 05:55 PM
i gotta say i don't know much about light heavyweights,i've seen chegui torres and my interest really came from him being my cousins uncle,but i've always wondered about michael moorer and ezzard charles.anybody have any of there fights,particularly charles vs louis and any fight at light heavy of moorer's?i'm to see how good they where.any knowledge of how good these two where at that weight?
Michael Moorer was on his way to becoming an excelent LHW fighter. He jetted and went up to Hw. He won all his fights at LHW by Ko , but no one of any significant interest.


Ezzrad Charles from what I remember fought Joe Louis 2x, most say he was ripped off in their 1st encounter. The 2nd , he got KO'd.He was Heavyweight champ by beating Jersey Joe Walcott and later losing it back to Walcott. Charles also fought Marciano, the fight was going to be stopped in favor of Charles cause of a nsty cut on Rocky's nose. In the 8-9rd , Rocky Ko'd Charles.


Hope this helps, this is from my dome.

BattlingNelson
05-02-2008, 06:06 PM
Michael Moorer was on his way to becoming an excelent LHW fighter. He jetted and went up to Hw. He won all his fights at LHW by Ko , but no one of any significant interest.


Ezzrad Charles from what I remember fought Joe Louis 2x, most say he was ripped off in their 1st encounter. The 2nd , he got KO'd.He was Heavyweight champ by beating Jersey Joe Walcott and later losing it back to Walcott. Charles also fought Marciano, the fight was going to be stopped in favor of Charles cause of a nsty cut on Rocky's nose. In the 8-9rd , Rocky Ko'd Charles.


Hope this helps, this is from my dome.
Charles only fought Louis once and won by UD.

He fought Marciano twice in back to back fights. The first was a points loss and the second by KO.

Lazy Liberal
05-02-2008, 06:18 PM
Charles only fought Louis once and won by UD.

He fought Marciano twice in back to back fights. The first was a points loss and the second by KO.
You're right about Charles. I mixed up walcott and Charles, It was walcott who got ripped off in his 1st fight with Louis.Charles and Walcott also fought twice.

The rest acccurate , I believe.

wmute
05-02-2008, 06:45 PM
Archie Moore is considered one of the greatest LHWs ever, won and kept the title well in his 40s.

Charles is 3-0 against prime Moore. nuff said.

Michael Moorer had a pretty run at 175, but wihtout significant fights, I dont even know if he could stayed there since he moved up at age 23.

Other greats at the weight include Gene Tunney, Bob Foster and Michael Spinks.

Hearnsz
05-02-2008, 06:50 PM
My personal favourite LHW is Billy Conn. I especially loved his first fight vs Joe Louis at HW. But then again, I don't know many LHW's.

norma1250
05-02-2008, 06:55 PM
yes Billy Conn is my favorite also. Blinding handspeed, touchness, a good punch (hurting Joe Louis numerous times, despite being outweighted by 30 lbs)

Sugarj
05-03-2008, 01:38 PM
Another good lightheavy of recent times is Roy Jones.

Silencers
05-03-2008, 02:29 PM
There have been many great light heavyweights throughout the years. Some are already mentioned in this thread, Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles, Billy Conn, Jose Torres.

Gene Tunney, Bob Foster and Michael Spinks should also be considered among the best 175 pounders of all time.

Michael Moorer had devastating power at light heavyweight but he couldn't make the weight any more and decided to move up to heavyweight. It's a shame because he could've been among the greats of the division if he had been able to stay there.

Roy Jones is definitely the best light heavyweight since Spinks, not sure about greatest of all time though.

-CANE-
05-03-2008, 03:40 PM
Off the top of my head, some incredible fighters have fought in the light heavyweight division, those you know Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles, Bob Foster, Gene Tunney and Michael Moorer and Michael Spinks.

Lesser known but IMO maybe not the best, but certainly up there and aybe the most exciting of all time Matthew Said Muhammed, or formerly known as Matthew Franklin.

I remember watching two light heavies, who were both lets say not particulary skillfull but both full of guts and determination and had 3 brutal fights and they were britains Dennis Andries and Australias Jeff Harding.

Andries was a 3 time champion and here he is losing the title to Thomas Hearns.

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Dempsey 1919
05-03-2008, 03:41 PM
Charles and Walcott also fought twice.

Charles and Walcott fought four times.

-CANE-
05-03-2008, 03:50 PM
Continued from earlier..

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matthew saad muhammed vs yaqui lopez 1980 foty

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-CANE-
05-03-2008, 03:56 PM
Ezzard Charles greatest hits

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Bob Fosters greatest hits

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AntonTheGreat
05-03-2008, 05:03 PM
ezzard was great.......

PED User
05-03-2008, 05:46 PM
I recommend to watch the light-heavyweight era from the late 70s and early 80s.

Michael Spinks was the top LHW of them, but some of the others were very good as well.

Eddie Gregory (Mustafa Muhammad)
Matthew Franklin (Saad Muhammad)
Dwight Braxton (Muhammad Qawi)
Marvin Johnson


Matthew Franklin-Marvin Johnson I is one of my top fights of all-time, the best ever that I've seen at 175 (even above Archie Moore-Yvon Durelle I), and their rematch was good and dramatic as well.

Saad Muhammad also had a classic rematch with Yaqui Lopez with an amazing 8th round.

Dwight Qawi had some brutal beatdowns of Saad Muhammad, and looked very good against Jerry Martin too. Qawi against Eddie Davis was an entertaining fight.

Michael Spinks's KO over Marvin Johnson is quite possibly the best uppercut I've ever seen thrown. His wins over Mustafa Muhammad and Qawi weren't the most fun to watch, but they show his versatility.

Eddie Gregory-Marvin Johnson is also worth watching. Eddie put on a great display of body punching, his left hooks to the body destroyed Marvin.