Hey everyone, this might be a stupid question but here it goes:
So amateur boxing is like 3 rounds of 2 minutes each right?
Is cardio training like running etc really that important when you're not planning to turn pro? Aren't you just supposed to give everything you got for 6 minutes?

I know 3 times 2 minute rounds can still be exhausting if you give everything, but I don't see how running 2 mile a day etc will help you...

Thanks in advance

I know 3 times 2 minute rounds can still be exhausting if you give everything, but I don't see how running 2 mile a day etc will help you...

Thanks in advance

It wont, thats why you do HIIT, punch out drills, burpees, sprints etc. AM fights are sprints not marathons.

Running is still good to do, what the guy above said is true, but why not run too? are you trying to cut corners? running 2 miles a day will without a doubt help your stamina, help you get your fat % down, tone your muscles, give you discipline, make you feel strong physically and mentally ... if other amateur fighters aren't running but you are ... your one step ahead.

It wont, thats why you do HIIT, punch out drills, burpees, sprints etc. AM fights are sprints not marathons.
The thing is; why is it a better thing for an AM boxer if he's not exhausted after 3 rounds? The fight is over anyway.

And I still don't see how it enhances you physically and mentally...
Physically you simply just need to burst for 6 minutes. And mentally I just see it as a waste of time currently.

Runners that compete in 200meter or something train by sprinting 200meter, you don't see them running a few miles because it's just not nessecary. Isn't it exactly the same for amateur boxing?

So a boxer who is trained to do 3rounds of 2 minutes each vs a boxer who runs 2 miles a day AND also trains for shorter rounds:
They both give everything during the 6 minutes of fighting and the fight goes equally.
The difference is that the boxer who runs 2 miles a day is able to go on while the oter is too exhausted. But the fight is over so why does it matter?

The thing is; why is it a better thing for an AM boxer if he's not exhausted after 3 rounds? The fight is over anyway.

And I still don't see how it enhances you physically and mentally...
Physically you simply just need to burst for 6 minutes. And mentally I just see it as a waste of time currently.

Runners that compete in 200meter or something train by sprinting 200meter, you don't see them running a few miles because it's just not nessecary. Isn't it exactly the same for amateur boxing?

So a boxer who is trained to do 3rounds of 2 minutes each vs a boxer who runs 2 miles a day AND also trains for shorter rounds:
They both give everything during the 6 minutes of fighting and the fight goes equally.
The difference is that the boxer who runs 2 miles a day is able to go on while the oter is too exhausted. But the fight is over so why does it matter?

If your training for 12 round fights but only have to fight 3, imagine how good you will be in those 3 rounds? imagine how much more pop power and speed will be on the end of your punches compared to the other guy if hes only trained for 3? hes tired by the second round and you could go another 10? it gives you a massive advantage over your opponent ... TRAIN HARD, FIGHT EASY.

If your training for 12 round fights but only have to fight 3, imagine how good you will be in those 3 rounds? imagine how much more pop power and speed will be on the end of your punches compared to the other guy if hes only trained for 3? hes tired by the second round and you could go another 10? it gives you a massive advantage over your opponent ... TRAIN HARD, FIGHT EASY.
Why would someone who is able to go for 15 rounds be better than someone who only trains for 3 rounds in those 'first 3 rounds'?
The way I see it the fighter who trained for 3 rounds has learnt better to burst everything out.

A 2km runner won't beat a 200m sprinter at the 200m. That's because the sprinter is trained to only run 200m and burst everything out. Sure the 2km runner will still be able to run alot and the 200m runner won't. But I don't see how the 2km runner would be better at the 'first 200m' than the 200m runner himself just because he's not tired at the end.

Why would someone who is able to go for 15 rounds be better than someone who only trains for 3 rounds in those 'first 3 rounds'?
The way I see it the fighter who trained for 3 rounds has learnt better to burst everything out.

A 2km runner won't beat a 200m sprinter at the 200m. That's because the sprinter is trained to only run 200m and burst everything out. Sure the 2km runner will still be able to run alot and the 200m runner won't. But I don't see how the 2km runner would be better at the 'first 200m' than the 200m runner himself just because he's not tired at the end.

You can still do your intense training .. ASWELL as the running, the other guy might be able to outburst for 3 rounds .. but so can you, WITHOUT getting tired, so when hes tired, your not, your the better fighter ... comprende?

I wont bother to answer next time if your just going to dispute the replies you get ... TRAIN HARDER FIGHT EASIER ... bottom line.

You can still do your intense training .. ASWELL as the running, the other guy might be able to outburst for 3 rounds .. but so can you, WITHOUT getting tired, so when hes tired, your not, your the better fighter ... comprende?

I wont bother to answer next time if your just going to dispute the replies you get ... TRAIN HARDER FIGHT EASIER ... bottom line.

What I'm trying to ask all the time is:
What does it matter if you're tired after those 3 rounds or not? THE FIGHT IS OVER!
And ofc I know you can do the running + intense training. But can't you just better replace the running by more intense training then? Because that's what I meant with a waste of time.

And what the **** I can't even dispute the replies I get? I'm supposed to accept everything even if I don't understand it or when I think it's ridiculous?

Well your asking a question but no matter what i say you seem to think you know the answer.

If you run, as well as what you do now, you will have more energy and stamina than you normally would in a fight, its that simple, you will have a higher level of fitness physically and mentally, most amateur fighters run long distance as well as sprints.

It wont, thats why you do HIIT, punch out drills, burpees, sprints etc. AM fights are sprints not marathons.

Hmm I really like how you explained that.

What I'm trying to ask all the time is:
What does it matter if you're tired after those 3 rounds or not? THE FIGHT IS OVER!
And ofc I know you can do the running + intense training. But can't you just better replace the running by more intense training then? Because that's what I meant with a waste of time.

And what the **** I can't even dispute the replies I get? I'm supposed to accept everything even if I don't understand it or when I think it's ridiculous?

You asked a question and I replied, have you ever seen an AM fight before? Fight conditions are much different to sparring, a lot more intense. The difference will be that the one doing more conditioning will be performing near max their potential for some who is not conditioned to fight. What way you condition is up to you and since you seem that you know it all why don't you tell us champ?

Hmm I really like how you explained that.

Is that serious or sarcastic? Hard to judge over the net.

Hmm I really like how you explained that.

DA1, your a well conditioned decent amateur, do you run long distance?

if i was fighting AM i would train way harder then i do now, i can fight 3 rounds fairly easy but my legs tend to give so im flat footed by mid 2nd round but since i started running (which i just started doin again because its summer) my legs are getin stronger so i'd run 3 miles(or more) a day if i had a fight coming up

You asked a question and I replied, have you ever seen an AM fight before? Fight conditions are much different to sparring, a lot more intense. The difference will be that the one doing more conditioning will be performing near max their potential for some who is not conditioned to fight. What way you condition is up to you and since you seem that you know it all why don't you tell us champ?
Don't start like that. If I knew I wouldn't ask. I'm simply questioning response. I just want a solid reason why long distance running is good. I still don't understand why someone who can easily go on for 15 rounds would be better in the first 3 rounds than someone who is trained for only 3 rounds.
You're using the words "contioned to fight"... Someone who is trained for only 3 rounds is still conditioned to fight in AM so once again I don't understand what you mean.

And to azza,
No I don't know the answer but I'm just questioning your response. I don't want to know who does what but I want to know WHY it will help. And just saying someone trained for more rounds will have a higher level of fitness is way to abstract. I want more of a scientific explenation. And it deffenately won't train me mentally as I currently don't even believe it will help me fysically.

Atm it's the same like someone constantly asking in the mideaval times: why does everyone think the sun revolves around the earth? And people would answer: because everything revolves around us. over and over and over. Then the person asking still doesn't know **** because it could be just as well not be true. (because its not scientifically but just an asumption)

I don't want to act like a prick who thinks he knows everything. The truth is I know ****, but I just want a clear reason and not just a statement.

to tell you the truth i dont really run. i do before a fight but not everyday or even every other day. i just try to get as tired as possible during boxing. i go extra hard on the bag etc to make sure im dead tired by the end.
i think it is overrated, especially considering how short the fights are. it definately helps, but going all out during real boxing should be able to ensure you can last those 3 rounds. although ive yet to go past the 1st round in my fights, i think id be alright.

Anything that doesnt kil u only makes u stronger.
Running is a must if you wana be sucessful it strengthens your legs so you can be on your toes more when your boxing.
You can run and sprint at the same time like i do on my run you dont have to just do one or the other.
It gets your body fat down to so your in good condition and it helps your endurance and helps your mentally.

running, especially interval running will burn calories and help you shed that weight.

if you don't need to drop weight, i see what you're saying. but running everyday is as much about discipline and routine as it is about building stamina and leg strength. like other people said, it won't hurt you.

sparring is really the only way to judge where your stamina is at as far as boxing goes.

I've got a different view on this than what's been presented so far. The thing is, to build up a peak conditioning, you go through different training phases. First you have your basic training, which consist of longer runs, circle training with longer intervals (ex. 60/60), and other heavier endurance stuff.
Then as your basic conditioning is improving, you switch to shorter, more intensive intervals, sprints instead of distance running, and also more specific technical stuff, mitts, sparring etc.
The final week before peaking for a big tournament, you do short, intensive mitt work, 5/25 intervals of explosive bagwork, and other technically inclined speedwork.
Do it like that, and you should be all set to be in peak condition for a big fight.
So, to answer the question, long distance running has a place in a training program for am fighting. You don't train the same all the time, and you don't start out with the intensive work, right off the bat. You need to go in cycles, that'll have you peaking at the right time.

I never run long distances , my coach says i should but i just do spinning, 3 min as fast as i can and 1 min rest. i do this 3 times a week for 15 mins each day and my condition has inproved greatly.

ok heres my take: the more stamina, the better. if you can last 15 rounds, your 3 rounds will be more intense than someone who can last 7 rounds. because its all relative.
i dont care what anyone says, 2 miles a day (a fairly short distance) does nothing but good.

I never run long distances , my coach says i should but i just do spinning, 3 min as fast as i can and 1 min rest. i do this 3 times a week for 15 mins each day and my condition has inproved greatly.
Whats spinning?

On a sidenote: longdistance running won't give you legstrength right? I suppose wallsits and calfraises are necessary in a boxer's training? Or are those alternatives for sprints?

Also Jberg, I still doubt whether what you say is relyable or not. A 200m sprinter will do better at the 200m than a 500m sprinter wont he?

Anyway, thanks for the advice and toughts so far everyone!

I run for 3 miles at a time every mon-fri.... it's really really helped my fitness, all round my fitness levels rose dramatically when i started taking running seriously.

Then i added days where i would do sprints... and it helped even more.

RUN, RUN, RUN... i cannot recommend this enough. It will also keep your weight off, if you are troubled by it like I am.

Whats spinning?

On a sidenote: longdistance running won't give you legstrength right? I suppose wallsits and calfraises are necessary in a boxer's training? Or are those alternatives for sprints?

Also Jberg, I still doubt whether what you say is relyable or not. A 200m sprinter will do better at the 200m than a 500m sprinter wont he?

Anyway, thanks for the advice and toughts so far everyone!

Fietsen met zon fiets apparaat

http://www.fitnesstakeaway.com/images/07PMC_Programmable_Magnetic_Cycle.jpg

3 min zo snel als je kunt zodat uw harstlag boven 170 is en dan 1 minuut rustig fietsen en zo 4 rondes volhouden.

**** sorry for my pic, it's to big lol

K merci :)

Btw if it matters I don't really have trouble with my weight. I have a fatpercentage of 15% atm...
I noticed most people in this thread recommend running because it really helps their fitness level. But my actual question is if you really need that fitness level when you're just fighting 3 rounds?
For example in those strongman competitions you see those people doing extremely intense exercices that are very short. Kinda like how 3rounds of boxing are. Those strongmen don't care about their cardio I think. I know am boxing is very different from weightlifting and that stuff but it's also very different from sports where matches take like 1h30min like football, basketball, running etc... (I think!)

ok your saying that a 200m runner would be better at 200 than a 800m runner. however, this analagy is skewed. this is because, as the distance increases, time per metre decreases due to the effect of fatigue. however, in boxing, somebody with the stamina to last 12 rounds at the same workrate as someone who can only do 3 rounds at that work rate will be more successful

Is that serious or sarcastic? Hard to judge over the net.

I was being serious....

No sarcasm here...

DA1, your a well conditioned decent amateur, do you run long distance?

Yea i won't front.. I use to be all about the Running and sprinting alot ...

But lately I've just been doing more rounds on the bag and throwing loads of more punches...I was actually about to make a thread about the amount of punches everyone is throwing on the heavy bag over 4-rounds.. i go 6.


Anyway.. I've increased my punch output since I've started concentrating on mits and punching bag more....

running definitely doesn't hurt... But i only used it because i was eating like a slob before... Now that im takin my protein and got these new trainers.. i don't over due myself like i used too.

K merci :)

Btw if it matters I don't really have trouble with my weight. I have a fatpercentage of 15% atm...
I noticed most people in this thread recommend running because it really helps their fitness level. But my actual question is if you really need that fitness level when you're just fighting 3 rounds?
For example in those strongman competitions you see those people doing extremely intense exercices that are very short. Kinda like how 3rounds of boxing are. Those strongmen don't care about their cardio I think. I know am boxing is very different from weightlifting and that stuff but it's also very different from sports where matches take like 1h30min like football, basketball, running etc... (I think!)

I still don't understand what you want from this thread? Long distance running improves your VO2 max and lactic acid threshold, intense training improves your anaerobic system. Train till your in fighting condition, you shoul be able to par 5-6 rounds at max intensity to be in "fighting condition" if you can't do this you need to do more work.