View Full Version : Best Eras at each weight class.
wmute 05-01-2008, 01:36 PM What was the best era with the best HW? What about the toughest MW division ever?
I ll start with a few which come easily to my mind, you guys go on.
HW 70s (followed by 90s)
CW ???
175 late 70s (or 40s, but the best guys were prevented to fight from the title)
168
160
154
147early 80s (the brief spell when Duran, Leonard and Hearns were all there)
140
135
130
126 early 2000s? come on... pac, marquez, morales, barrera...
122
118
115
112
108
105
them_apples 05-01-2008, 11:02 PM pretty good list
in my personal opinion though, the Lewis, Holyfield, Tyson trio slightly surpasses the Ali, foreman, frazier era...although its close..all IMO of course
126-129 definently goes to early 2000's as you put.
for middleweight its hard to say, every era had strong middle weight contenders, you have robinson, hagler, jones, mcllelan, hopkins..
ferocity 05-02-2008, 01:54 AM I think going on 4 if not more years now, boxing has been on a high, so many division are filled with great fighters and match ups its insane when you think about it.
Don't get fooled that the weltweight division is the only great division in boxing.
ferocity 05-02-2008, 01:57 AM And for 126 you have to mention Hamed, Kelly and Medina, Kelly cause that guy always seemed to be in very good fights, I don't know how many times i've seen Kelly getting his ass kicked then BAM! he knocks the **** out his opponet warriror he was. Medina he'll always be around that guy is timeless. Tom Johnson He had a **** load of title defenses. Wilfredo Vasquez deserves a mention but never seen him fight much.
PED User 05-02-2008, 02:45 AM Maybe counting the whole decade is too long, but the MW division in the 1940s was excellent.
Sugar Ray Robinson
Jake LaMotta
Marcel Cerdan
Tony Zale
Jose Basora
The black "Murderers Row"
Archie Moore
Ezzard Charles
Holman Williams
Charley Burley
Jack Chase
Cocoa Kid
Lloyd Marshall
wmute 05-02-2008, 12:22 PM Maybe counting the whole decade is too long, but the MW division in the 1940s was excellent.
Sugar Ray Robinson
Jake LaMotta
Marcel Cerdan
Tony Zale
Jose Basora
The black "Murderers Row"
Archie Moore
Ezzard Charles
Holman Williams
Charley Burley
Jack Chase
Cocoa Kid
Lloyd Marshall
I was counting Murderers' Row for 175 (Jimmy Bivins also fighting around that weight). It's unbelievable that no one of those had a title shot until (Charles and Moore) much later, throw.
Do you rate that 160 division very high (Zale, La Motta, Cerdan, Graziano)?
I didnt think much of it, but your judgments are usually on point, so i ll go watch some fights again.
wmute 05-02-2008, 12:29 PM I think going on 4 if not more years now, boxing has been on a high, so many division are filled with great fighters and match ups its insane when you think about it.
Don't get fooled that the weltweight division is the only great division in boxing.
I dont know, some divisions are very weak right now, HW.
LW division ruled by 35+ year old men, two of them?
MW seems shaky to me (and has been like that for a long time).
PED User 05-03-2008, 05:41 PM I was counting Murderers' Row for 175 (Jimmy Bivins also fighting around that weight). It's unbelievable that no one of those had a title shot until (Charles and Moore) much later, throw.
Do you rate that 160 division very high (Zale, La Motta, Cerdan, Graziano)?
I didnt think much of it, but your judgments are usually on point, so i ll go watch some fights again.
Yeah, some of the Murderers Row can count for both MW and LHW, or for Burley, WW and MW. Sometimes the guys moving around in weight in or being between the two weight classes makes it a little tough to gauge which class to put them in. A guy weighing 164 for instance, is over the MW limit, but I'm sure they would've lost the extra pounds if it were a title bout.
Obviously Robinson was special, LaMotta was an excellent fighter. Graziano is generally regarded as a protected fighter though, whose most memorable wins were over smaller guys or a post-WW2 Zale (who beat Rocky 2 of 3).
ferocity 05-05-2008, 07:46 PM I dont know, some divisions are very weak right now, HW.
LW division ruled by 35+ year old men, two of them?
MW seems shaky to me (and has been like that for a long time).
Could Campbell beat Diaz again? He'll have to prove it.
Casamayor we know is on the way out but his win over Katsidis was great, but what about his fight with Santa Cruz a young fighter who many felt he was robbed?
And those are only 2 division out of many.
The 112 through the 135 division is great so many fights can be made some fighters can come up or down and fight the top guys. Light Heavyweights still is not sure who now rules that division or can Calzaghe make his domince felt? Crusierweight don't know much. Heavywegitht low times. Supermiddlewight and Middlweight are not as bad as it seems there can be made some good fights.
I think the only division in boxing that is lacking is Heavyweight and Cruiserweight.
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