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Darkstranger 04-25-2008, 04:59 PM Getting the balls to post a few vids these days :-)
I'm the guy in red. Currently weighing 241 lbs (109kg) and 6'3". Still haven't had my first bout as yet but I may have one next week if the other club accepts the invitation. My sparring partner in the vid is also a non-bouter. I've been training for just under a year now, still obviously very raw but I've improved a lot over the last 6 months. Not looking to turn pro as I'm already 29. I just wanna get loads of fights over the next 5 years, compete in the ABA's and eventually help out with coaching at the club.
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jberg 04-25-2008, 05:29 PM you looked a bit slow in my opinion and be careful with that low left hand.
good luck and carry on training
elgaringo 04-25-2008, 05:36 PM nice one. thats fair enough. keep practicing and fitness is key. your timing looks good when you get you range. obviously you cant expect miracles after training for a year.
If theres anything obvious I can spot its work on moving your hands a little faster and dont forget to get your hands back in a guarding position quick time.
Apart from that im not gonna try critisize you with startin at this age and after just a year. Good work!! :boxing: :boxing:
Sugarj 04-25-2008, 05:44 PM You move well, just need to throw more punches per round and close the range more to stop punches falling short.....nice looking jab!
i thought it was very good a good controlled sparring session i had my first sparring two nights ago and he was a mad man no jab just ko blows one after another all i could do was keep hands up very high as he was aiming just at the head and try to counter
johnjamieson 04-25-2008, 08:39 PM you have a very nice jab like mine. id say commit more on those jabs, throw them and step in with them to set up more punches, instead of throwing them and stepping away so much. id also watch that low left hand. goodluck
Stormin' Norman 04-25-2008, 08:49 PM Kudos for the video, here's my advice...i'll tell you why you ate that cross early on, right before your coach said 'Hands up!'...
when I started, I held my left the same way, it's called a hitman style jab position named after hearns, it generates more power and comes from a better angle...
but starting out as an amateur you need to have both hands up. you are going to eat many a right cross unless you listen and apply this knowledge.
if you would just make a small adjustment, tuck in that left elbow and bring that left glove up to where the top of it is level with your hairline, learn to fire the jab and rotate your left fist clockwise, making a grasp at the end of the punch with all your strength and exhaling harshly.practice that, and your entire style will benefit from it. oh, and
Take my advice, don't lead with your right hand. It isn't fast enough. if you dont want to throw the cross after the jab, which i recommend, mix in the cross after or before a left hook to the body or head, those two punches complement each other like butter 'n' grits, homeslice.
I didn't really see any hooks, you ain't a small guy, I was expecting some power. I didn't see any clinching either, (clinching should be practiced along with punching out of a clinch I don't care who tells you otherwise) then again it was only one round.
only a year of training!! you got some descent footwork. I would say you use your jab more often. and try not to reach with your right hand when catching jabs. let the jab come to you then catch it. if keep reaching with your right hands to catch jabs some one can feint a jab then come with a left hook instead. but good work :boxing:
DA1CATAS 04-26-2008, 02:06 AM i ENJOYED IT... more punches woulda been good though...
looks like you both know the other guy hits hard..
prally true you both being heavyweights and all.
mgkirkpatrick 04-26-2008, 04:17 AM always enjoy watching the sparring. you look to be a guy with some reasonable potential! massive frame..
hard to say too much as you were a bit conservative.. try putting a few punches together..
2 things on that guy you were sparring.. he isnt stable when he throws his jab.. therefore ripe for counters..
and also when he tries that bum rush why not meet him with an uppercut?
cool vid anyhow!
you learn a lot from these sparring videos and the first sparring sessions are good to watch any more vids on sparring
Darkstranger 04-26-2008, 10:50 AM Cheers for the feedback guys!
I'll get on the case with those pointers and get more videos up in the near future. I'm very conservative as you could all see, I basically lack a bit of aggression. Sometimes I feel too exposed when trying to be aggresive. Which I think is a major disadvantage but on the other hand will hopefully stop me getting involved in a brawl in my first fight.
Cheers for the help lads, will keep you posted.
sterling 04-26-2008, 11:27 AM gd sessions i cant wait til i get mine up!
If you gna do david haye style as a heavy then look for that right hand throw it more and move your upper body more if you cant do that then keep ur left hand up.
That style ur doing isnt for everyone but if u can make it work for u then it can be pretty gd.
Look for the right hands and try to counter.
sterling 04-26-2008, 11:29 AM Cheers for the feedback guys!
I'll get on the case with those pointers and get more videos up in the near future. I'm very conservative as you could all see, I basically lack a bit of aggression. Sometimes I feel too exposed when trying to be aggresive. Which I think is a major disadvantage but on the other hand will hopefully stop me getting involved in a brawl in my first fight.
Cheers for the help lads, will keep you posted.
Hehe u gna get brawlers at ur wieght especially if there smaller and they wil try and make u brawl and sometimes u wil have to because they are throwing to many punches so you gta brawl sometimes to win.
Darkstranger 04-26-2008, 11:44 AM Sterling, I hear that bro!
I've seen it so many times in debut bouts. One guy starts getting outboxed then turns into a brawl. I think that's when it's down to you to try and keep a cool head and use your footwork to try and not get involved.
Easier said than done though! lol
Cheers for the hints!
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Darkstranger 04-28-2008, 06:34 AM i thought it was very good a good controlled sparring session i had my first sparring two nights ago and he was a mad man no jab just ko blows one after another all i could do was keep hands up very high as he was aiming just at the head and try to counter
I hear that bro! I think we've all been there before. When you first start sparring things can get a little out of hand and people rush in trying to kill each other. Last week the canvas was painted red with blood, people were just going crazy. I think the more you spar the more you start to think about what your doing rather than just rushing in.
Keep it up though bro!
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mr tricky 04-28-2008, 12:46 PM wait, dont end the thread just yet mate,
ok i thought is was good, however you do have a lol of potentioal,
the guy you fight althoguh he looks good, as he comes farwud and flurrys on you,
you look the better one as your calm, and you block move ect more of a boxer and with time can become much better,
you can easily beat that guy and here how,
dont just jab and then move even if you miss?
step[ farwud and jab, aim through his head, like your hitting sumonne behind him, that way your sure to reach with opwer and will punch thropugh his gaurd even,
also jab, and then either lean back and jab again or just throw to jabs he wont know what to do, he can see ur jab coming and he leans back or steps away but if you double it up and then mabey bang in the right hand afterwards and then move, its wilol be alot better,
dont flurry like him , but flurry in your on way by jabing and right ect and put him under presure,
try jab lean back jab, or stepfarwud jab, jab, or jab, jab, right hand , or jab, right hand ,...............you get the point,
just put him under presure thats all, he will find it hard belive me,
also you seem very static, move , cirlce left and then circle right, ect,ect, wwhile circleing right quikly shoot off a jab, or while cirlceing left or whatever,
basically im saying be unpredictble, and put him under pressure, throw in bursts, as well as the single jab,
and go for it! you both seem a bit half hearted and not much effort, mabey its because your heavyweights i dont know?
So next time your about to get into the ring remeber what ive said, plases just give it a try, and see how it goes,
you may get caught at first and stuff, but you improve,
now i dont know you so mabey ive just told you a load of crap you alredy no, but im just going on what i seen in the vid so erm good luck anyway,
you look worth while and have potentiol to win amature fights as youve sed youve wanted
mr tricky 04-28-2008, 12:51 PM also having rewatched your video i thought i should mention this...
he seems to throw random jabs wen your clearly miles out of range, wen he dose that dont just relax your self but see it as an opening for a fluurry,
so wen he dose one of them nice slow jabs wen your miles away, quickly step in and shoot a jab of your own into his face,
that is all thanx
mr tricky 04-28-2008, 12:59 PM see how he keeps his hands really close together on his chest or chin?
it makes ya kinda scared dosent it,
you feel as if wen you try and step in hes gonna bang a shot hard on ur chin and it makes you a little cautious...
you should try it wiht your size, keep your hands and body nice and tight, and hard to hit, stay relaxed and louse but compact and small,
then let louse wen u need 2
Darkstranger 04-29-2008, 06:13 AM Cheers for the pointers bro!
I've got my debut bout 2moro night.
I know what you mean about looking half hearted. I have a habit of deliberately trying to slow the pace down. The guy I was sparring against is normally very busy, not particularly accurate, but tends to throw quite a lot of punches. So I deliberatley slow him down to my pace, I've tried it on a few lighter guys I've sparred with too.
Thanks for the advice though, will definatly take all your pointers in the ring with me. I'm just happy I've got to a level where I'm able to take a bout. I had to overcome serious mental blocks about getting hit man, it was rediculous! lol
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JayCoe 04-29-2008, 06:55 AM Looking good. Here's little things I tried to figure out from the video, you're by no doubts a better boxer than I but i've got the side of being an outsider looking on etc so any recommendations I make are purely made on being someone who takes a great deal of interest in strategy watching a video;
1) Now you see at 0:06 seconds you have him controlled, by this I mean you are clearly the one who's going to hit first (which you did). Now look at his guard, it's the type of guard I prefer except he's kind of got it wrong. A tight guard is one which is upright and at about nose/eye level. Now I prefer to tuck my elbows in, makes me more compact to move but it also covers my body. He has his elbows out wide meaning his body is wide open meaning his face is tightly guarded, his body is open. So when you went in with that jab you should have taken it right at his stomach. This would have brought his guard down.
2) You're doing good with your movement and you're conserving energy whilst he was kind of doing some random stuff, at one point he moves his head but he wasn't going in to hit nor were you swinging. The fact he does this means he's thinking ALL of the time, which means he's working slowly, get me? Now when they are like this, the best thing to do in a fight is to take the centre and let them move/jump around like a rabbit on crack, they'll soon get tired.
3) Hurt him. It seems that you were watching what it was he was doing and how to block it than deciding how the fight was going to go.
4) Stand firm. You're a big guy, he's a big guy aswell but you're big enough not to get pushed back with some of the hits he threw which on two occasions (at 1:39 in so far) you've been on the ropes. This isn't because he's outboxed you or is stronger, but because when he came at you, you backed off and found yourself stuck. Utilise head movement and side stepping more, also stand firm, raise your guard and fight.
5) Watch from 1:50 onwards, you will see how he dominates the centre and makes you move around him, then he had you. This is what I meant in 2) do this to him.
All in all you seem good but you need accept you're going to get hurt and go in for the attack more. Was just giving you some key points which i'm sure you know, it's just i'm an outsider so I can maybe spot them easier.
Hope these help.
Darkstranger 04-29-2008, 07:55 AM Cheers Jaycoe,
Thanks for the pointers bro! I've got some real good feedback off everybody so far.
It's amazing the mistakes you see yourself make when you watch a video of yourself!
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JayCoe 04-29-2008, 08:26 AM I wouldn't say you made many mistakes. Your footwork was good and you were ready to guard at all times. Just about building on the stuff you've already got. Like I said, you're by no doubts a better boxer than I but I can give you pointers because i'm an outsider watching a video, you have more time to think and notice stuff when you're watching a video of yourself/someone else. Don't be too hard on yourself.
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