http://www.t-nation.com/forum_images/physClin/gusBA.jpg

Heres an example of a guy who did it....

Read the entire article and everything here: http://www.t-nation.com/readPhysClin.do?id=1852678&pageNo=0


28 Days

5 Protein shakes a day

ONE solid meal per week


He adds a bunch of other nutrients and things... the diet isnt easy at all... I made it 10 days before... i went from 188 to 174 in 10 days... now... a lot of it was water weight, but i looked considerably leaner and tighter after only 10 days....

I am doing this diet for the entire month of may.. i will succeed this time, check it out guys... its a get lean FAST diet, and it SERIOUSLY works.

http://www.t-nation.com/forum_images/physClin/gusBA.jpg

Heres an example of a guy who did it....

Read the entire article and everything here: http://www.t-nation.com/readPhysClin.do?id=1852678&pageNo=0


28 Days

5 Protein shakes a day

ONE solid meal per week


He adds a bunch of other nutrients and things... the diet isnt easy at all... I made it 10 days before... i went from 188 to 174 in 10 days... now... a lot of it was water weight, but i looked considerably leaner and tighter after only 10 days....

I am doing this diet for the entire month of may.. i will succeed this time, check it out guys... its a get lean FAST diet, and it SERIOUSLY works.

one meal a week? ima have to read the article that dont sound to healthy

one meal a week? ima have to read the article that dont sound to healthy

Its 100% completely healthy

You get all essential nutrients, and fats that you need

you need to buy metabolic drive protein powder, it has all the carbs protein and fat already in it...


the article covers everything

100% healthy

Maybe 100% healthy but it sounds 10,000% difficult!!!

Good luck reedickyaluss!

Maybe 100% healthy but it sounds 10,000% difficult!!!

Good luck reedickyaluss!

lol thats why i only made it 10 days before...

you need to take hotrox extreme fat loss capsules

MORE for the appetite suppressant... it really kills your appetite... its one of the things that makes it possible...

From the pic, all your doing is starving yourself.

When a the 2nd of my best friends died I didn't eat for like 2 weeks. Had no appetite and was still working out. Of course your muscle stays on you but everything else (water weight, fat) all comes off.

I've never been over 6% body fat but my mid-section and abs slimmed to the point of like Brad Pitt fight club abs. My abs tend to pop off my stomach a little but it was completely flat and still ripped.

After I ate a few full meals the next day it came back on.

Wow.... Sounds good.

But you have to order that stuff... I'm gonna add walking to my night though..

From the pic, all your doing is starving yourself.

When a the 2nd of my best friends died I didn't eat for like 2 weeks. Had no appetite and was still working out. Of course your muscle stays on you but everything else (water weight, fat) all comes off.

I've never been over 6% body fat but my mid-section and abs slimmed to the point of like Brad Pitt fight club abs. My abs tend to pop off my stomach a little but it was completely flat and still ripped.

After I ate a few full meals the next day it came back on.

Its not starving yourself in the slightest

ive already done it for ten days... i was full all day long

you need to read the article

Its not starving yourself in the slightest

ive already done it for ten days... i was full all day long

you need to read the article

Yo.. So you know what i look like already... Would you suggest me doing that diet? it would be easy to get to 165 that way.

Yo.. So you know what i look like already... Would you suggest me doing that diet? it would be easy to get to 165 that way.

arent you already lean and ripped?

Velocity is serious business. I am doing it myself(alas I am gonna add some complex carbs for before training) this may.

arent you already lean and ripped?

Yea but I wanna go down to 165 again.....

And that sounds like it would make me get down quick.

Yea but I wanna go down to 165 again.....

And that sounds like it would make me get down quick.

im sure it would do the trick... do you have any fat on you? you look like your at 5% body fat last time i saw... you got any pics?

im sure it would do the trick... do you have any fat on you? you look like your at 5% body fat last time i saw... you got any pics?


Uhh my video has has recent clips of how i look within the last 2 weeks...

i'll jump on ma scale when i get home and tell you my body weight/ Body Fat % and bone mass weight/ muscle mass weight.



Umm I'll post it here i guess... at like 3:30... thanx man for the help.

Uhh my video has has recent clips of how i look within the last 2 weeks...

i'll jump on ma scale when i get home and tell you my body weight/ Body Fat % and bone mass weight/ muscle mass weight.



Umm I'll post it here i guess... at like 3:30... thanx man for the help.

Im thinken about starting this diet. Are you taking the same protein powders and supplements that he mentions in all his posts?

Im thinken about starting this diet. Are you taking the same protein powders and supplements that he mentions in all his posts?

i am... metabolic drive protein powder... you wont make it all 28 days with anything else... you really wont.. this protein is awesome, it has everything in it you need, tastes really good, and fills you up

wouldn't get into this diet, they are just trying to make money. Just count your callories and you will be okey . I los't like 5 kilos in 2 weeks with eating 4 meals a day and 1 protein shake.

wouldn't get into this diet, they are just trying to make money. Just count your callories and you will be okey . I los't like 5 kilos in 2 weeks with eating 4 meals a day and 1 protein shake.

there trying to make money?

lol uh no... a LOT of people have done it and its the fastest most extreme results you will see in 28 days... and it IS healthy... you get all your nutrients...

i made it 10 days last time...i leaned out SERIOUSLY

there trying to make money?

lol uh no... a LOT of people have done it and its the fastest most extreme results you will see in 28 days... and it IS healthy... you get all your nutrients...

i made it 10 days last time...i leaned out SERIOUSLY

Protein powders are called supplements for a reason, you take them with a good balanced diet.
No way you can convince me that eating one real food a week is healthy.
And yes they are triyng to make money cause they say the only way this diet can work is when you use their special magical protein powder.

Protein powders are called supplements for a reason, you take them with a good balanced diet.
No way you can convince me that eating one real food a week is healthy.
And yes they are triyng to make money cause they say the only way this diet can work is when you use their special magical protein powder.

thats because the metabolic protein has the necessary CARBS, PROTEINS, and FATS all in it... thats WHY you need to get theirs and not buy the 50 tub at GNC

if you actually read the article then you would understand everything this diet includes is completely healthy and gives you everything your body needs...

but you didnt read it.. so theres no point in arguing with someone who is ill-informed

i did the diet for 10 days... i felt great... i was full the whole time, i leaned out majorly, so it doesnt really matter what your "opinion" is.. ive already done it

thats because the metabolic protein has the necessary CARBS, PROTEINS, and FATS all in it... thats WHY you need to get theirs and not buy the 50 tub at GNC

if you actually read the article then you would understand everything this diet includes is completely healthy and gives you everything your body needs...

but you didnt read it.. so theres no point in arguing with someone who is ill-informed

i did the diet for 10 days... i felt great... i was full the whole time, i leaned out majorly, so it doesnt really matter what your "opinion" is.. ive already done it


Just giving another point of view. If u want we can both post a picture of our upper body's and you can decide who knows more about dieting , building muscle and maintaining muscle.

Just giving another point of view. If u want we can both post a picture of our upper body's and you can decide who knows more about dieting , building muscle and maintaining muscle.

well the whole reason im GOING on the diet is because i dont look how i want to look? and that doesnt prove anything... AT ALL... you can be born with great genetics.. i know guys who are ripped beyond belief who havent done a pushup a day in their life...

point is... you didnt read the article... you dont know everything included in the diet... so you ARE ill-informed

well the whole reason im GOING on the diet is because i dont look how i want to look? and that doesnt prove anything... AT ALL... you can be born with great genetics.. i know guys who are ripped beyond belief who havent done a pushup a day in their life...

point is... you didnt read the article... you dont know everything included in the diet... so you ARE ill-informed

I didn't read the article cause you have to be stupid to think eating 1 solid meal a week is healthy, it is very bad for your digestive system. And there are 20 different amino accids and you have to take them all if you want to gain our maintain your muscle. even if that protein powder contains all 20 of them , your body will reject it and you will just piss it away. You have to take the different amino accids on different days thats why a you need to eat different sources of protein and not 5 times a day the same protein powder. But if you believe that diet is good , it's your choice like i said im just giving another point of view.

I didn't read the article cause you have to be stupid to think eating 1 solid meal a week is healthy, it is very bad for your digestive system. And there are 20 different amino accids and you have to take them all if you want to gain our maintain your muscle. even if that protein powder contains all 20 of them , your body will reject it and you will just piss it away. You have to take the different amino accids on different days thats why a you need to eat different sources of protein and not 5 times a day the same protein powder. But if you believe that diet is good , it's your choice like i said im just giving another point of view.

if you read the article.. you most likely wouldnt be saying what your saying

i would take your point of view honestly, if you actually read it


thats like someone giving a point of view on a fight they didnt watch

look at the results in the first post of that guy... i dont care, if i can go from that to that in 28 days... then so be it

if you read the article.. you most likely wouldnt be saying what your saying

i would take your point of view honestly, if you actually read it


thats like someone giving a point of view on a fight they didnt watch

look at the results in the first post of that guy... i dont care, if i can go from that to that in 28 days... then so be it


ok good luck then , let me know in 28 days if it workt

It says don't do any strenuous exercise whislt on it.

I'd be ****ed,i train 5 days a week and run 15 miles a week.

It says don't do any strenuous exercise whislt on it.

I'd be ****ed,i train 5 days a week and run 15 miles a week.

its mostly a muscle training diet... you lift weight to maintain your LBM

this is also why its only a 28 day diet.. its not something you stay on

the plan is to rip the fat off in one month... get major results FAST... and from their go back to your regular diet and exercise... only a lot leaner

It says you need 11 bottles of low-carb Metabolic Drive at 32 dollars a bottle that is quite expensive. Looks like this diet cost alot . If i had the money i might try it, im trying to drop 10 pounds maybe i could do it for a few days only.

It says you need 11 bottles of low-carb Metabolic Drive at 32 dollars a bottle that is quite expensive. Looks like this diet cost alot.

it is.... but when you take into account thats your food for entire month... it isnt.

Oh yeah one more thing before i go to sleep. How do you know for sure that that guy followed this diet and actually lost all that weight in 28 day. You shouldn't believe everything you read especially when they try to sale you a product. Either you are dumb and very naive or you are getting paid to advertise for this product. Oh yeah and i don't actually believe you have followed this diet for 10 days or else you would have started a tread 10 days ago saying you where trying a new diet. I hate it when people try to make money of desperate overweight people. If anyone wants to lose weight just ask and i post a good healthy diet where you don't need to buy a magical expensive product.

Oh yeah one more thing before i go to sleep. How do you know for sure that that guy followed this diet and actually lost all that weight in 28 day. You shouldn't believe everything you read especially when they try to sale you a product. Either you are dumb and very naive or you are getting paid to advertise for this product. Oh yeah and i don't actually believe you have followed this diet for 10 days or else you would have started a tread 10 days ago saying you where trying a new diet. I hate it when people try to make money of desperate overweight people. If anyone wants to lose weight just ask and i post a good healthy diet where you don't need to buy a magical expensive product.

You know what.. shut the hell up....

i DID do it for 10 days... about 2 months ago... why cuz i didnt make a thread about it i didnt do it?

im not being paid you IDIOT... god get the hell out of my thread

Im starting this diet. Yo reed do you have AIM or MSN so we can talk more about this cause im serious about it.

Im starting this diet. Yo reed do you have AIM or MSN so we can talk more about this cause im serious about it.

yeah ill PM you...

dont worry about what the joker said above me

i have no affiliation with t-mag.com i had to fott the bill myself as well..

the diet DOES work... i made it 10 days....im doing it again may 1st...

i seriously slimmed down and tightened my entire core

if you follow the link on the first page...

you can literally see PROOF of this guys transformation from week to week... theres over 12 pages of back and forth between the guy doing the diet and the guy helping him with it

It sounds like a good diet but im a broke kid cant really shell out all that money. Let me know how this goes though.. Maybe i could get half the stuff since i only want to drop a little weight. Good luck keep us posted on how this goes.

yeah it is expensive.. u have to keep in mind its your food for an entire month

reedickyaluss, I usually agree with you and I admire your willingness to share this with other members and following it yourself, but I don't see this as a good diet for practicing boxers. First of all this Chris Shugart guy is full of it, this whole diet basically revolves around his definition of rationalization, a psychological term he doesn't even seem to be familiar with. I'm currently a psychology student and his defintion has been adjusted to manipulate someone into motivation. Rationalization was introduced by the controversial Freud and is not making excuses like he's saying, it's justifying mistakes or harmful behaviour by adjusting your mental schematics accordingly, it's actually what he's doing right now! The first thing you learn in psychology is that Freud's research is highly controversial, so if this guy had turned around his life over something Freud said (even though it assumingly helped him) I find that laughable.

I've checked the link and even though it's a 4 week program, his criticism about the yo yo effect is just stupid. Theoretically you will lose the weight and maintain the muscle, but most of the stuff you're taking is processed and stacked with stuff your body won't even be able to process. However, maintaining this diet for over four weeks or periodically will damage your body. You weren't planning on doing so, but the physicique you will have acquired will only last for a couple of weeks. You will eventually find yourself in a slow continuous process of gaining the weight back, damaging your metabolism anyway.

Oh yeah don't get me wrong, I actually believe this guy lost the weight, you lost the weight and will lose the weight. Everybody can lose weight, that's actually the easy part, maintaining the weight is what it's all about. People have been trying to find an easy way to a "greek god" body for decades now, it's just funny to me how it comes down to hard work and proper dieting every time. There are no real shortcuts, I find it confusing how someone as dedicated as you are is even trying to look for them. I remember you giving a bag glove review saying you work the bag for 12 rounds and you seem to be active in almost every dieting discussion presented on this board so you must know a lot by now. The best toned bodies I can think of are those of Michael Jai White and the young Sylvester Stallone and they keep stressing the importance of hard work, dedication and eating none processed foods.

well once you get off the diet... you have to maintain your diet.. obviously you cant go back to cheetohs and snickers

but it does rip actual fat off you... and as long as you maintain a reasonable diet.. theres no reason that fat wont stay off you


as far as his rationalization **** goes... i could careless what he said about that... i read about 5 sentences into it and said who cares lol

Oh yeah don't get me wrong, I actually believe this guy lost the weight, you lost the weight and will lose the weight. Everybody can lose weight, that's actually the easy part, maintaining the weight is what it's all about. People have been trying to find an easy way to a "greek god" body for decades now, it's just funny to me how it comes down to hard work and proper dieting every time. There are no real shortcuts, I find it confusing how someone as dedicated as you are is even trying to look for them. I remember you giving a bag glove review saying you work the bag for 12 rounds and you seem to be active in almost every dieting discussion presented on this board so you must know a lot by now. The best toned bodies I can think of are those of Michael Jai White and the young Sylvester Stallone and they keep stressing the importance of hard work, dedication and eating none processed foods.
What would you recommend is a good diet for boxers? Calorie intake? Protein Intake? Carb Intake? And just what foods should we eat. Lets see your knowledge.

guys... this isnt a long term diet.. its not something your going to stay on

Its get the fat off your body in 28 days.... and then go back to your regular dieting and training...

guys... this isnt a long term diet.. its not something your going to stay on

Its get the fat off your body in 28 days.... and then go back to your regular dieting and training...

Aight well ya know what I look like... and my height is 5'11.5

Heres my stats

1st time on scale..

Body Fat % :15.7

Water Weight: 60.5 pounds

Muscle Mass: 76.9 pounds

Bone Mass: 9.2 pounds

weight: 178.3 pounds

Change
2nd time on scale..

Body Fat%: 16.4

Water Weight: 60.1 pounds

Muscle Mass: 77.1 pounds

Bone mass: 9.2

Weight : 180.2pounds

What do you think.... And how should i lose weight..?

I'm gonna tell my new trainers 2mora. pLUS i'M USE TO doing much more training than they are making me.. but I'm still sorta tired from the vast amount of new stuff they are showing me.

Yo man hit me up on AIM- giantsbran1227

I can help you out.

What would you recommend is a good diet for boxers? Calorie intake? Protein Intake? Carb Intake? And just what foods should we eat. Lets see your knowledge.

Calorie and protein intake is based on your metabolism and effective body mass. Not one person can generalize about this subject, that's why actors and professional athletes hire nutricionists to figure it out for them. Calculating your calorie intake is very hard to do since I'm not a professional and I don't know how much you exercise, eat, weigh or how tall you are. Your protein intake is actually very easy to figure out, you should consume about as much proteins in grams as you weigh in lbs. So if you're 172 lbs, you should consume 172 grams of proteins daily.

A good diet for boxers? I'm not going to tell you anything new here: whole foods, green vegetables and broiled or baked fish and meat. This is easier said than done however. I personally never have trouble staying lean so I don't feel compelled to diet. I have tried it when I gained weight though, but hard work seems to compensate for me and all my friends who exercise at least 3 times a week. I don't work out very long (1-2 hours), but my workouts pack about alot of exercises with high reps. I'm 5'11", weigh about 152 with 6% body fat. Many people think I'm around 175 though, because I build muscle pretty fast. I only supplement with a daily protein shake, zinc and omega 3 and I drink plenty of water. I basically eat what I want that includes pizzas and fried foods and I drink alcohol at least 2 times a week. That being said I do gain weight when not exercising even though it's not a lot it is noticable to me so I definitely wouldn't recommend my eating and drinking habits to other people.

But don't trust my advise, go see for yourself I really don't care if you find me knowledgable or not, you're not the only one reading it are you?

This diet should not be used for boxing but to get some fat of for a while rofl its one of them things were you got to stick at it rearly because fat can always come back so dont be surprised doing this then start eating unhealthy then getting all the fat back on lol.
Only in my opinion i dont think it should be used by boxing because its very artificial and if your training alot then you wont have as much energy at all.

He adds a bunch of other nutrients and things... the diet isnt easy at all... I made it 10 days before... i went from 188 to 174 in 10 days... now... a lot of it was water weight, but i looked considerably leaner and tighter after only 10 days....

How much of that weight came back in the 2 weeks or so after you went off the diet?

How much of that weight came back in the 2 weeks or so after you went off the diet?

he fat stayed off... as soon as you start eating bad aagin..it will come back... after you get off the diet, you need to stick with a clean diet... but thats common sense...


guys this is not an ideal diet to be on while really training for boxing... actually lifting is the best during the 28 days, to keep your muscle and strip your fat... you will not have the energy to train cardiovascularlly on this diet

but like i said... this is a fast working diet... 28 days, and your done... this isnt a diet yuo stay on... ONE MONTH... thats it... then you slowly ween back off of it.. going from 2 - 3 shake a day, and a solid meal, then just solid foods...

this is basically GET IN SHAPE FOR SUMMER NOW kind of diet

follow the article that i linked to in the very first post

Im going to be a saboteur

you said it yourself, get ripped (not necessarily in shape) for summer. I am trying to stay objective but it IS true that highly processed foods really **** **** up internally. And supplements ARE the most processed 'food' you can find. And it is obviously a way to make money because of the timing...everyone is trying to lose weight for summer also because you have to use a million and 1 supplements. You could do the same radical changes with the right information such as how much protein, carbs, fat, vitamins and calories you end up eating with this diet, of course youd have to know exactly all that stuff about the foods your eating to simulate it but itd be healthier.

BUT if you have the cash to throw around and really want to lose the weight then go for it I guess. But think of this, it this: it takes 1 month right? and your gonna live for probably 500 more months right? why not do it healthily and take 3 months to do it. Youll still look good for 497 months instead of 499.

Im going to be a saboteur

you said it yourself, get ripped (not necessarily in shape) for summer. I am trying to stay objective but it IS true that highly processed foods really **** **** up internally. And supplements ARE the most processed 'food' you can find. And it is obviously a way to make money because of the timing...everyone is trying to lose weight for summer also because you have to use a million and 1 supplements. You could do the same radical changes with the right information such as how much protein, carbs, fat, vitamins and calories you end up eating with this diet, of course youd have to know exactly all that stuff about the foods your eating to simulate it but itd be healthier.

BUT if you have the cash to throw around and really want to lose the weight then go for it I guess. But think of this, it this: it takes 1 month right? and your gonna live for probably 500 more months right? why not do it healthily and take 3 months to do it. Youll still look good for 497 months instead of 499.

Thats fine.. just please dont suggest that i somehow work for the company and am trying to promote it.. ive been on this forum over a year, and neevr once mentioned it... i pay full price for everything... ill be spending 350 tomorrow on all this crap....

in no way shape or form, do i get any kind of anything from telling you guys this... as a matter of fact t-mag.com does not even know me... ive simply come across this diet on their website... tried it for 10 days and holy **** did it work, so this time im going for 28 days....

you can say whatever you want... the diet works... it is healthy... if you read through the first link... theres a LOT MORE to it then what i have described, as i myself am not even an expert on this actual diet... just relaying information that i have read...

once you start eating properly again your sure to put weight on...

Just curious what was the total cost of the supplements?

once you start eating properly again your sure to put weight on...

Yes, although Weight, and Fat, are two different things... as long as your diet remains clean you will keep the fat off... but that is with any diet you go on.

Just curious what was the total cost of the supplements?

its around $350 - $400....

at first glance that seems WOW.... but remember, this is your food for the entire month... it really evens out...

I start mine tomorrow... May 1st... pretty excited.

Oh yeah don't get me wrong, I actually believe this guy lost the weight, you lost the weight and will lose the weight. Everybody can lose weight, that's actually the easy part, maintaining the weight is what it's all about. People have been trying to find an easy way to a "greek god" body for decades now, it's just funny to me how it comes down to hard work and proper dieting every time. There are no real shortcuts, I find it confusing how someone as dedicated as you are is even trying to look for them. I remember you giving a bag glove review saying you work the bag for 12 rounds and you seem to be active in almost every dieting discussion presented on this board so you must know a lot by now. The best toned bodies I can think of are those of Michael Jai White and the young Sylvester Stallone and they keep stressing the importance of hard work, dedication and eating none processed foods.

By a young Sylvester Stallone I assume you mean after he made Rocky 1 because while he was training for Rocky 1 his diet was pretty messed up. He said (on his website) that while he was training for Rocky 1 he basically starved himself and drank Coffee to keep his metabolism going. He also took Amino Acids that, according to him, were as strong as steroids.

This is stuff you can see on his website. I'd link it but his entire website (at least the last time I went to it) is flash based so you can't link it.

By a young Sylvester Stallone I assume you mean after he made Rocky 1 because while he was training for Rocky 1 his diet was pretty messed up. He said (on his website) that while he was training for Rocky 1 he basically starved himself and drank Coffee to keep his metabolism going. He also took Amino Acids that, according to him, were as strong as steroids.

This is stuff you can see on his website. I'd link it but his entire website (at least the last time I went to it) is flash based so you can't link it.

colbert putin 08 lmao i remember watching that

Colbert report all day! Hes hella funny. Let us know how the diet goes!

Hey reedickyaluss, how is it going so far?

Hey reedickyaluss, how is it going so far?

Day 8... down 9 pounds :fing02:

Day 8... down 9 pounds :fing02:

Good stuff, man.

I am dieting right now myself(although not velocity, but I only have to drop like a pound or two anyway) and eating clean and properly is a helluva mess with a hectic schedule like mine.

Anyway, good luck, man.

one meal a week? ima have to read the article that dont sound to healthy

Why do you have a gif of your sparing partner slipping and blocking all your punches?

Yes, although Weight, and Fat, are two different things... as long as your diet remains clean you will keep the fat off... but that is with any diet you go on.



its around $350 - $400....

at first glance that seems WOW.... but remember, this is your food for the entire month... it really evens out...

I start mine tomorrow... May 1st... pretty excited.

**** THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek:

**** THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek:

its your food for the ENTIRE month... keep in mind

Whats up man, hows the diet goin?!

Day 13... down 10.4 pounds.... and feelin wonderful.. everything is tightening up real good

http://www.t-nation.com/forum_images/physClin/gusBA.jpg

Heres an example of a guy who did it....

Read the entire article and everything here: http://www.t-nation.com/readPhysClin.do?id=1852678&pageNo=0


28 Days

5 Protein shakes a day

ONE solid meal per week


He adds a bunch of other nutrients and things... the diet isnt easy at all... I made it 10 days before... i went from 188 to 174 in 10 days... now... a lot of it was water weight, but i looked considerably leaner and tighter after only 10 days....

I am doing this diet for the entire month of may.. i will succeed this time, check it out guys... its a get lean FAST diet, and it SERIOUSLY works.

Sounds ****ing painful. I might give it a go though.

When you starting it??

i already did, may 1st

i already did, may 1st

How's it going?? and how much did you weigh on may 1st?

What's the name of the protein shake and fat burning pills you need for it?? I'll price them up now.

Link > First post.... your gonna spend around $400... keep in mind.. its your food for a month... so it evens out.

Thats whats up man keep up the good work.

day 15... 181.8lbs


started day 1 at 194.8

And as soon as u start eating properly, it piles back on.

And as soon as u start eating properly, it piles back on.

If you had taken time to read the full article and read about the transition period and what you will be eating when you go back to solid meals then you would know that isn't true.

And as soon as u start eating properly, it piles back on.

If you eat "properly" Then no, it doesn't "pile" back on... if u start eating pizza subs and wings, then yes, obviously it will pile back on....

If you keep eating clean, the fat will stay off, which, obviously only makes sense.

If you eat "properly" Then no, it doesn't "pile" back on... if u start eating pizza subs and wings, then yes, obviously it will pile back on....

If you keep eating clean, the fat will stay off, which, obviously only makes sense.

What are you weighing in at now dude?

What are you weighing in at now dude?

181.8... started out at 194.8 on may 1st

**** all these diets i eat what i want, still as cut as i want

**** all these diets i eat what i want, still as cut as i want

yeah well i hate you, so, that about sums it up...

**** all these diets i eat what i want, still as cut as i want

So, how's life, D?

diets don't work, its a fact. You can't stay on a diet forever, what you think will happen once you decide its enough

diets don't work, its a fact. You can't stay on a diet forever, what you think will happen once you decide its enough

Diets work, especially if you eat clean afterwards.

So, how's life, D?

life's good, just got done soph yr yesterday...i dropped that smut i told you about...time to go huntin'

diets don't work, its a fact. You can't stay on a diet forever, what you think will happen once you decide its enough

well ll explain my situation to you... i maintain my look and weight with my workouts... the weight ive been maintaining isnt where i wanna be... i wanna be more cut and weigh about 15lbs less.. and maintain THAT instead... so im goin on a strict diet for a month to get where i wanna be.. then i can maintain that...

Diets work, especially if you eat clean afterwards.

yea...thats a big IF, thats why the majority of people who go on diets stay on em or just quit altogether

yea...thats a big IF, thats why the majority of people who go on diets stay on em or just quit altogether

Well, it all depends on wether you wanna be fat or not, if you want to look good you keep eating clean.

diets don't work, its a fact. You can't stay on a diet forever, what you think will happen once you decide its enough

Well then it isn't that the diet hasn't worked, it's that you've stopped following it and started eating unhealthy food.

well ll explain my situation to you... i maintain my look and weight with my workouts... the weight ive been maintaining isnt where i wanna be... i wanna be more cut and weigh about 15lbs less.. and maintain THAT instead... so im goin on a strict diet for a month to get where i wanna be.. then i can maintain that...

well ll explain my situation to you... i maintain my look and weight with my workouts... the weight ive been maintaining isnt where i wanna be... i wanna be more cut and weigh about 15lbs less.. and maintain THAT instead... so im goin on a strict diet for a month to get where i wanna be.. then i can maintain that...

lol damn...u trying to be my weight? im always between 165-170 like i've said before, and if your natural weight is 30-35lbs more which is what 195lbs? thats going to be tough to maintain, but you already know

lol damn...u trying to be my weight? im always between 165-170 like i've said before, and if your natural weight is 30-35lbs more which is what 195lbs? thats going to be tough to maintain, but you already know

yeah but.. .im not fat but ive got fat around my stomach.. i dont have a gut.. but theres fat there, im not dehydrating myself or anything.. id just like to be around 175... its a maintainable weight...

Well, it all depends on wether you wanna be fat or not, if you want to look good you keep eating clean.

heard fat is contagious, you hang with fat people your bound to be heavier than usual.

I eat what I want and go gym every weekday and boxing three times a week and still look cut. And at fighting weight.

I eat what I want and go gym every weekday and boxing three times a week and still look cut. And at fighting weight.

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I eat what I want and go gym every weekday and boxing three times a week and still look cut. And at fighting weight.

i don't believe you man , post a pic so i can have a good laugh. you can't be ript and wel muscled if you don't follow some kind of diet. if you say you can eat what ever u want without gaining weight it means that u got an ectomorphic bodytype so that means that u probably don't got much muscle.

Day 1: 194.6 LBS

Day 21(today): 180.6 LBS

Day 1: 194.6 LBS

Day 21(today): 180.6 LBS

How do you feel though?

How do you feel though?

Honestly? I feelt 100% normal, and great.... all my after work naps have stopped as well.... i stopped caffeine and sugar... now i just have natural energy...

From the pic, all your doing is starving yourself.

When a the 2nd of my best friends died I didn't eat for like 2 weeks. Had no appetite and was still working out. Of course your muscle stays on you but everything else (water weight, fat) all comes off.

I've never been over 6% body fat but my mid-section and abs slimmed to the point of like Brad Pitt fight club abs. My abs tend to pop off my stomach a little but it was completely flat and still ripped.

After I ate a few full meals the next day it came back on.
first of all this is total bull****. You need protein to sustain muscle. If you were working out without eating you were burning fat and muscle and you dont lose a brad pitt six pack after a couple of full meals. Its posts like this that make me ****ing laugh...

By the way the diet is totally ****ing unhealthy and anyone who does not think so is a total ****ing moron!

hmmmm i TRY and eat healthy.
6ft 1inch
210lbs

i have a bit of a gut! but i am trying to lose it by cranking out 4miles 6 times a week.

I also drink monster amounts of booze at the weekend and smoke big style!

the thing is before i started running i wasnt gaining weight doing all of the above. so now that i am running 24miles a week i must be losing weight.. but i am not!

Any one got any tips??? apart form reeds milkshake diet which sounds good but i wouldnt have the time to prepare that many shakes a day.

hmmmm i TRY and eat healthy.
6ft 1inch
210lbs

i have a bit of a gut! but i am trying to lose it by cranking out 4miles 6 times a week.

I also drink monster amounts of booze at the weekend and smoke big style!

the thing is before i started running i wasnt gaining weight doing all of the above. so now that i am running 24miles a week i must be losing weight.. but i am not!

Any one got any tips??? apart form reeds milkshake diet which sounds good but i wouldnt have the time to prepare that many shakes a day.

That's your problem right there. The booze my friend. Also, I can't understand how you're not losing weight after running 24 miles a week - you're putting in more miles than I do. Why don't you list your typical daily diet and then we can tell you what you shouldn't be eating and what you should be eating more of.

cool.

9am: 1 item of fruit for breakfast while i walk mile to work.

1pm: wholemeal bread sarny with turkey and salad

5.30pm: 4 mile run

7ish: dinner which for instance last night was beans on toast with 2 poached eggs and brown sauce!

i NEVER snack.. ever.

I also drink alot of water from 1pm until i finish work at 5

weekends tho i eat 2 meals a day usually nothing healthy and get pissed! i have cut this down to 2 nights a week tho. 1 week night and either a fri or sat night.

I know people who eat alot more than me and dont excersize and are thin.

the only thing i can think it is, is metabolism..

first of all this is total bull****. You need protein to sustain muscle. If you were working out without eating you were burning fat and muscle and you dont lose a brad pitt six pack after a couple of full meals. Its posts like this that make me ****ing laugh...

By the way the diet is totally ****ing unhealthy and anyone who does not think so is a total ****ing moron!

Why dont you read the article before you start your bull**** name calling... u read my first post and then proceeded to indirectly call me a ****in moron? go **** yourself.

cool.

9am: 1 item of fruit for breakfast while i walk mile to work.

1pm: wholemeal bread sarny with turkey and salad

5.30pm: 4 mile run

7ish: dinner which for instance last night was beans on toast with 2 poached eggs and brown sauce!

i NEVER snack.. ever.

I also drink alot of water from 1pm until i finish work at 5

weekends tho i eat 2 meals a day usually nothing healthy and get pissed! i have cut this down to 2 nights a week tho. 1 week night and either a fri or sat night.

I know people who eat alot more than me and dont excersize and are thin.

the only thing i can think it is, is metabolism..

I may have to agree with you there but it depends. I mean, how much do you drink in a weekend? Do you also have sneaky booze sessions when the football/boxing is on? The 2 meals at the weekend you mention - are they take-away by any chance?

Before you start blaming metabolism, why don't you have two weeks without the booze & fatty foods and why not try to cut your smoking back? I guarantee you that if you work out hard and are strict with your diet you will see results. BUT, you have to be able to discipline yourself.

Good luck! Oh, and remember to drink plenty of water.

Thanks for the advice! i give you some green k but i have no idea what it means or how it is done! haha.

Its bday this weekend so i HAVE to drink its the law! but i shall try 2 weeks cutting out all crap starting monday! i just didnt think that 2 days out of 7 eating shyte and drinking alot wouldnt make any diffrence with the amount of running i do! but its pretty obvious really that it is!

How did this work out for you bro?

I've never believed in such extreme measures for fat loss; use up more than you put in, it's that simple.

Crash diets like this are bad for your health, not ingesting solid foods and dropping so much weight so quickly just ain't good for you. It's not the worst thing in the world, granted, but there's far better ways to lose fat.

I'd rather be fit as hell and strong as an ox and look like Fedor Emelianenko, than have all kinds of intrinsic problems and look like a Greek statue.

http://www.t-nation.com/forum_images/physClin/gusBA.jpg

Heres an example of a guy who did it....



Am I the only one who thinks this pic looks seriously photoshopped?

Velocity diet really works when you got a lot to burn off. If you are in a position where you only got to burn off a couple of pounds its better to try less severe methods

those type of diets are so hard. then when u get around some good food you just relapse lmaoo. its like a drug addict going cold turkey lol

The diet works faster than anything else, but mentally its the hardest..

the only thing bad about this diet and pretty much any crash diet is that you cant do this forever. and once you start eating again you will most likely put the weight back on. now if you can do this for 2 weeks then gradually introduce healthy foods and small portions then ok. but most of the people who does crash diets always wind up not lasting or putting it back on.

the only thing bad about this diet and pretty much any crash diet is that you cant do this forever. and once you start eating again you will most likely put the weight back on. now if you can do this for 2 weeks then gradually introduce healthy foods and small portions then ok. but most of the people who does crash diets always wind up not lasting or putting it back on.

You will only put fat back on if, when you shift back to eating, you eat pizza, burgers, friez etc... If you go back to healthyf oods,then no, you wont gain the fat back.

It's basically a liquid diet. I have no doubt it works and you get all the essential nutrients. But only 1 meal of solid food per week?

Phuck that ****.

Yeah, I'd rather enjoy life and eat good fewdz than to starve myself like a little ***** so I can look the way homo's think I should look.

Yeah, I'd rather enjoy life and eat good fewdz than to starve myself like a little ***** so I can look the way homo's think I should look.

Youre full all day queer

Youre full all day queer

Yeah, while you're watching your "diet" like Cindy Crawford I'm eating a porterhouse steak ******.


Go watch your waistline and watch videos of other sweaty men trying to get you to look like a pansy.

Shuuuut uuuuuup...

This threads old anyway, you dont like it? Move the **** on.

Yeah, while you're watching your "diet" like Cindy Crawford I'm eating a porterhouse steak ******.


Go watch your waistline and watch videos of other sweaty men trying to get you to look like a pansy.

^^^ Mad Fat **** jealous of our aesthetics and ability to pull 10's while he pulls 4's.

Yeah, I'd rather enjoy life and eat good fewdz than to starve myself like a little ***** so I can look the way homo's think I should look.

BRB Enjoying Life
BRB eating good fewdz
BRB Acquiring High Cholesterol
BRB Dying of a Heart Attack
BRB no longer enjoying life




BRB I'm still alive

U Fail Phaggot

BRB Enjoying Life
BRB eating good fewdz
BRB Acquiring High Cholesterol
BRB Dying of a Heart Attack
BRB no longer enjoying life




BRB I'm still alive

U Fail Phaggot

U can be buff while enjoying good fewdz.

That's what ****yaluss and you don't understandzz.

Eating fish and steamed veggies 24/7= kill yourselves now

:lol1:

U can be buff while enjoying good fewdz.

That's what ****yaluss and you don't understandzz.

Eating fish and steamed veggies 24/7= kill yourselves now

:lol1:

I'm talking about overall health. Enjoy your 150mg of cholesterol in your steak, fat ass

Grilled chicken, tuna, salmon is all delicious to me so doesnt make a difference if you dont like it

Yeah, while you're watching your "diet" like Cindy Crawford I'm eating a porterhouse steak ******.


Go watch your waistline and watch videos of other sweaty men trying to get you to look like a pansy.

:haha::haha::haha:

reed you know nothing. after this fast sudden weight loss your body will deal with the "real" food as if it needs to store it as fat, because you fuked its body clock and metabolic rate up. It now thinks shi_t we just had a famine and to stay alive i must convert ANY food into storage fats.

the best way to lose weight is over 6months, slowely and eating healthy with interval training, weight training and generally no stress in life with good sleep and water intake.

you WILL fail miserably at maintaining the diet. rightly so too.

also to note, our genetics determine how fat we get, how much we burn etc...

reed you know nothing. after this fast sudden weight loss your body will deal with the "real" food as if it needs to store it as fat, because you fuked its body clock and metabolic rate up. It now thinks shi_t we just had a famine and to stay alive i must convert ANY food into storage fats.

the best way to lose weight is over 6months, slowely and eating healthy with interval training, weight training and generally no stress in life with good sleep and water intake.

you WILL fail miserably at maintaining the diet. rightly so too.

also to note, our genetics determine how fat we get, how much we burn etc...

Actually metabolic rebound is the single most beautiful thing that could happen to anyone who bodybuilds. If reed really decides to go all junk food he will most likely then not lose his results. HOWEVER if he goes the healthy(meaning good food sources) high fat/high protein/moderate carbs way and also trains he will grow much much muscle without actually gaining any serious fat..
And even that, velocity diet actually provides body with all the nutrients it needs to keep the muscle and be very insulin sensitive due to smaller amount of carbs and the timing of the meals. He is not starving his body, just his mind.
So, your assumptions are wrong.
Take it from someone who tried almost every single diet from ketonic to caveman to velocity, they all work, its just that with velocity the whole plan is worked out for you.

reed you know nothing. after this fast sudden weight loss your body will deal with the "real" food as if it needs to store it as fat, because you fuked its body clock and metabolic rate up. It now thinks shi_t we just had a famine and to stay alive i must convert ANY food into storage fats.

the best way to lose weight is over 6months, slowely and eating healthy with interval training, weight training and generally no stress in life with good sleep and water intake.

you WILL fail miserably at maintaining the diet. rightly so too.

also to note, our genetics determine how fat we get, how much we burn etc...

Youre an idiot, stay the **** outta my threads

I don't know why people are always looking for the next big diet. Eat right, cut your portions and work out and in time you will be where you want to be. In a healthy, proper way.

It's not easy, you won't get instant results but the results will be permanent.