Do any of you do drugs of any sort, or did you used to?

What did you used to do, and how was the buzz you got off it?

i had 3 nurofen once, ****ing awesome!!

but seriously no mate never touched the stuff and never will.... neither should you, tut tut!!

drugs are over rated

i had 3 nurofen once, ****ing awesome!!

but seriously no mate never touched the stuff and never will.... neither should you, tut tut!!


I was just wondering really. I have just moved up to manc and I swear every ****er up here ****ing canes em, waaay more than in Sheffield. I wasn't sure if Sheffield was low on drugs, or whether Manc is just stupidly high (no pun intended) on them?

On another point, what is your reasoning for saying that Duran, I mean alcohol is a dug, but you take that, so is your reason for not doing other drugs purely the fact it is illegal??

I used to smoke Weed every day and take E, coke and speed on a regular basis during me teenage years.

I've stopped the lot but still take coke now and again at parties.

E just used to make me really sentimental and act like a homo, telling my mates i loved them and the come downs were ****ing awful.

Coke made me hyper and talkative for ten minutes and then I'd feel like shit and have to do another line. If you take coke without alcohol it has to be the shitest drug going, especially for the prices.

I was just wondering really. I have just moved up to manc and I swear every ****er up here ****ing canes em, waaay more than in Sheffield. I wasn't sure if Sheffield was low on drugs, or whether Manc is just stupidly high (no pun intended) on them?

On another point, what is your reasoning for saying that Duran, I mean alcohol is a dug, but you take that, so is your reason for not doing other drugs purely the fact it is illegal??
well i've never even tried a cigarette. I think mainly the reason behind me not ever trying drugs is because I always think if you cant have a good time with alcohol your a bit of a saddo.... I have a great laugh with alcohol and im not one of these idiots who goes all aggressive with it either. I dont like putting things in my body which could possibly seriously hurt me, and with drugs like E's and coke that potentially could happen. I know what you're saying about alcohol, and in many ways its prob more destructive than a lot of other drugs but im not an alcy and I dont intend on ever being one!! haha

Same here never touched a drug, never had a drag of a ***. Got a lot of mates that do it, therefore been offered weed, coke etc an awful lot of times, even when am pissed, but I've always said no. The fact that people have to spend £40 upwards on a gram of coke just so they can have a good time makes em sad.
Another thing is, it seems more and more younger kids are getting into it now, compared to when I was young, my brother is only 15 and his mates are all doing the same shit people my age are, when I was that young I only knew of people who smoked cigs, and the few that smoked weed.

I've had weed once. I don't mind the smell of it, because i'm around it a lot as my best mate is always on it, but i don't think i'll smoke it again.

I've been offered Ecstacy......never had it. It's all overrated.

Smoked one cig......nothing exciting.

I don't mean to offend but Beer/Lager too are madly overrated. Not to keen on the taste.....i don't know how some of you guys manage to down pints.

Only spirits for me. Few Whisky shots to keep me going.......brandy/Bacardi too are all good. I don't mind the odd mixed drink too.

Alcohol is a drug so yes.

I smoked for a couple of months but thought whats the point and stopped.

I was going to smoke weed with some friends, but then I thought whats the point so I didn't.

I'm with Duran, don't see the point in pumping myself with substances that are only in the long run going to **** me up

Its strange that the people saying 'drugs are overrated' have never done them.

All drugs are dangerous, yet most people dont get addicted or destroy their lives with them.

Alot of the hard stuff is a real gamble. U dont know wat its mixed with and how ur body and brain will react. Its all a massive gamble. Not really worth it.

Ive never been much of a drinker, and only smoke weed evry 3 or 4 months for a couple of days. Tried most things and the comedown after the high is ****in horrible. Ive never binged on shit. Everything in moderation.

Less is more.

well i've never even tried a cigarette. I think mainly the reason behind me not ever trying drugs is because I always think if you cant have a good time with alcohol your a bit of a saddo.... I have a great laugh with alcohol and im not one of these idiots who goes all aggressive with it either. I dont like putting things in my body which could possibly seriously hurt me, and with drugs like E's and coke that potentially could happen. I know what you're saying about alcohol, and in many ways its prob more destructive than a lot of other drugs but im not an alcy and I dont intend on ever being one!! haha

WOw you're like my soul mate, apart from I had a drag once. Worst decision of my life, glad it will make me never start though.

All my mates smoke, and some move onto the weeds. I'm quite content with alcohol cheers.

***Anyone thinking of trying drugs for the first time, PLEASE read the whole thing first***

Done everything and a lot of it, with the exception of Heroin. Keep your beer/lager can't stand the taste.
Whiskey and Gold or Black Rum or a nice Bourbon for me and with a meal a nice drop of red wine.

Getting back to the drugs I don't do anything now, though there is a tiny part of my brain telling me I wish I could, but there are more important things in life and I have too much to lose, plus I have an addictive personality and I can't just do it now and again.

Loved weed and now and again it's o.k. but smoking it all day every day which I used to up until last year seriously messes the mind up.

Acid is awesome but so dangerous and you need to be headstrong and have no negative thoughts before taking or you'll have a bad trip. Done around a 1000 trips sometimes 10 tabs at a time, I must have been ****ing crazy.

Ecstasy is a love drug and you love everyone and everything and can't stop dancing, done this a good few hundred times again up to 10 pills at a time.

Speed is the worst for a come down for me and it seriously ****s your joints up (not the ones you smoke) and only used this with other drugs to prolong the effects.

Kettamine only done it once as I was ****ed with it in an E, I had 15 of these and lucky I only took 1 that night and sold and lost the rest or I probably wouldn't be here today. That's the most ****ed up I've ever been plus everyone else that took them that night as well. Popham airfield about 10 miles from my home and 60,000 people back in 1992 one of the maddest nights ever.

Everyone off their faces and by the end of the night it seemed like we were swimming in mud.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vn4au9rj1fo


Love coke or charlie but never paid for it and used to run a dealer about who threw it at me just over a year ago. I was driving my taxi on 6 or 7 grams a night sometimes. I know I'm a twat and regret it big time, lucky I never had an accident.

Crack the best buzz of the lot and only did it once, lasts for a very short time and the most addictive thing I've ever come accross.


Regret doing so much of everything, in fact regret doing it at all, but had some awesome experiences but wouldn't recommend them to anyone else, and am thinking of a career change to help people come off their addictions, it's useless talking to someone who has never done anything before, they need to talk to someone who knows exactly what they are going through.

I also did them to run away from personal problems/demons in my head and it was a way of escaping real life, which I've realised you have to face head on and what don't kill you makes you stronger. If I could go back in time I wish I had never done anything despite the amazing experiences and good times, because once you have done them something in your mind changes for ever I can't explain what but you can never go back to how you were.

I know the first part sounds like I'm condoning them and make them sound good and fun and then it sounds like I'm contracdicting myself, but that's what they do after you've done them so many times. A small part of your brain tells you it was fun and great and you want to experience that again and get that same buzz or high, but the real person inside you (with me anyway) knows it was all wrong and unneccessary and facing up to life and all it throws at you is a big challenge while fighting the demons in my head telling me to go back and do it one more time, especially when something traumatic happens. That's the part of your brain telling you, you need it to cope, but I know I'm better than that and I will fight these demons forever and they are not going to get the better of me ever again. This is one fight I'm not going to lose no matter how hard it all gets, because if I do it just once I'll be back on everything again in no time and ruined all the hard work, and evil terrifying nightmares I endured coming off it all and I'm not going through that again. I can't and won't let myself or my beautiful family down again.

Sorry it's so long but it's very hard to describe, but if I've stopped just one person from trying it and ruining their life then I've achieved something worthwhile.

***Anyone thinking of trying drugs for the first time, PLEASE read the whole thing first***

Done everything and a lot of it, with the exception of Heroin. Keep your beer/lager can't stand the taste.
Whiskey and Gold or Black Rum or a nice Bourbon for me and with a meal a nice drop of red wine.

Getting back to the drugs I don't do anything now, though there is a tiny part of my brain telling me I wish I could, but there are more important things in life and I have too much to lose, plus I have an addictive personality and I can't just do it now and again.

Loved weed and now and again it's o.k. but smoking it all day every day which I used to up until last year seriously messes the mind up.

Acid is awesome but so dangerous and you need to be headstrong and have no negative thoughts before taking or you'll have a bad trip. Done around a 1000 trips sometimes 10 tabs at a time, I must have been ****ing crazy.

Ecstasy is a love drug and you love everyone and everything and can't stop dancing, done this a good few hundred times again up to 10 pills at a time.

Speed is the worst for a come down for me and it seriously ****s your joints up (not the ones you smoke) and only used this with other drugs to prolong the effects.

Kettamine only done it once as I was ****ed with it in an E, I had 15 of these and lucky I only took 1 that night and sold and lost the rest or I probably wouldn't be here today. That's the most ****ed up I've ever been plus everyone else that took them that night as well. Popham airfield about 10 miles from my home and 60,000 people back in 1992 one of the maddest nights ever.

Everyone off their faces and by the end of the night it seemed like we were swimming in mud.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vn4au9rj1fo


Love coke or charlie but never paid for it and used to run a dealer about who threw it at me just over a year ago. I was driving my taxi on 6 or 7 grams a night sometimes. I know I'm a twat and regret it big time, lucky I never had an accident.

Crack the best buzz of the lot and only did it once, lasts for a very short time and the most addictive thing I've ever come accross.


Regret doing so much of everything, in fact regret doing it at all, but had some awesome experiences but wouldn't recommend them to anyone else, and am thinking of a career change to help people come off their addictions, it's useless talking to someone who has never done anything before, they need to talk to someone who knows exactly what they are going through.

I also did them to run away from personal problems/demons in my head and it was a way of escaping real life, which I've realised you have to face head on and what don't kill you makes you stronger. If I could go back in time I wish I had never done anything despite the amazing experiences and good times, because once you have done them something in your mind changes for ever I can't explain what but you can never go back to how you were.

I know the first part sounds like I'm condoning them and make them sound good and fun and then it sounds like I'm contracdicting myself, but that's what they do after you've done them so many times. A small part of your brain tells you it was fun and great and you want to experience that again and get that same buzz or high, but the real person inside you (with me anyway) knows it was all wrong and unneccessary and facing up to life and all it throws at you is a big challenge while fighting the demons in my head telling me to go back and do it one more time, especially when something traumatic happens. That's the part of your brain telling you, you need it to cope, but I know I'm better than that and I will fight these demons forever and they are not going to get the better of me ever again. This is one fight I'm not going to lose no matter how hard it all gets, because if I do it just once I'll be back on everything again in no time and ruined all the hard work, and evil terrifying nightmares I endured coming off it all and I'm not going through that again. I can't and won't let myself or my beautiful family down again.

Sorry it's so long but it's very hard to describe, but if I've stopped just one person from trying it and ruining their life then I've achieved something worthwhile.

I've never thought about doing drugs. But like you said if that stops one person then that will be a good thing.

No I've heard to many stories from people who have done drugs and they all say the same, don't ever start.

That was probably one of the most important posts I've ever read on a forum.

Ive never somked a doob because i dont smoke cigs but i used to do pipes and buckets a lot. Done coke and ex for years but packed the shit in when i met my ex-gf.

I've never thought about doing drugs. But like you said if that stops one person then that will be a good thing.

No I've heard to many stories from people who have done drugs and they all say the same, don't ever start.

That was probably one of the most important posts I've ever read on a forum.

Thanks man.:kiss:

***Anyone thinking of trying drugs for the first time, PLEASE read the whole thing first***

Done everything and a lot of it, with the exception of Heroin. Keep your beer/lager can't stand the taste.
Whiskey and Gold or Black Rum or a nice Bourbon for me and with a meal a nice drop of red wine.

Getting back to the drugs I don't do anything now, though there is a tiny part of my brain telling me I wish I could, but there are more important things in life and I have too much to lose, plus I have an addictive personality and I can't just do it now and again.

Loved weed and now and again it's o.k. but smoking it all day every day which I used to up until last year seriously messes the mind up.

Acid is awesome but so dangerous and you need to be headstrong and have no negative thoughts before taking or you'll have a bad trip. Done around a 1000 trips sometimes 10 tabs at a time, I must have been ****ing crazy.

Ecstasy is a love drug and you love everyone and everything and can't stop dancing, done this a good few hundred times again up to 10 pills at a time.

Speed is the worst for a come down for me and it seriously ****s your joints up (not the ones you smoke) and only used this with other drugs to prolong the effects.

Kettamine only done it once as I was ****ed with it in an E, I had 15 of these and lucky I only took 1 that night and sold and lost the rest or I probably wouldn't be here today. That's the most ****ed up I've ever been plus everyone else that took them that night as well. Popham airfield about 10 miles from my home and 60,000 people back in 1992 one of the maddest nights ever.

Everyone off their faces and by the end of the night it seemed like we were swimming in mud.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vn4au9rj1fo


Love coke or charlie but never paid for it and used to run a dealer about who threw it at me just over a year ago. I was driving my taxi on 6 or 7 grams a night sometimes. I know I'm a twat and regret it big time, lucky I never had an accident.

Crack the best buzz of the lot and only did it once, lasts for a very short time and the most addictive thing I've ever come accross.


Regret doing so much of everything, in fact regret doing it at all, but had some awesome experiences but wouldn't recommend them to anyone else, and am thinking of a career change to help people come off their addictions, it's useless talking to someone who has never done anything before, they need to talk to someone who knows exactly what they are going through.

I also did them to run away from personal problems/demons in my head and it was a way of escaping real life, which I've realised you have to face head on and what don't kill you makes you stronger. If I could go back in time I wish I had never done anything despite the amazing experiences and good times, because once you have done them something in your mind changes for ever I can't explain what but you can never go back to how you were.

I know the first part sounds like I'm condoning them and make them sound good and fun and then it sounds like I'm contracdicting myself, but that's what they do after you've done them so many times. A small part of your brain tells you it was fun and great and you want to experience that again and get that same buzz or high, but the real person inside you (with me anyway) knows it was all wrong and unneccessary and facing up to life and all it throws at you is a big challenge while fighting the demons in my head telling me to go back and do it one more time, especially when something traumatic happens. That's the part of your brain telling you, you need it to cope, but I know I'm better than that and I will fight these demons forever and they are not going to get the better of me ever again. This is one fight I'm not going to lose no matter how hard it all gets, because if I do it just once I'll be back on everything again in no time and ruined all the hard work, and evil terrifying nightmares I endured coming off it all and I'm not going through that again. I can't and won't let myself or my beautiful family down again.

Sorry it's so long but it's very hard to describe, but if I've stopped just one person from trying it and ruining their life then I've achieved something worthwhile.

**** me didn't know we were talking to Frank.

**** me didn't know we were talking to Frank.

LOL, but seriously don't want anyone going through what I did, it's not worth it.

Great post hurricane, if only some of my mates could read that.

Yeah man was a good post, good adivice (I base that on the first couple of bits I read.) Didn't really apply to me.

Like you Hurricane I feel i've got an addictive personality. Which is why I shy away from drugs, knowing what kind of trouble i'd get myself in to.

I'm content with booze and stick to pints. Alot of my pals take coke on the weekend (seems to be everywhere nowadays) and it doesn't appeal. They respect my wishes and don't flaunt it in my face or offer it me and I respect the fact that they make their own choices. Smoked pot once or twice..but it wasn't for me, smoking never really has been. I hate the feeling on my chest.

White Lines..don't do it!

***Anyone thinking of trying drugs for the first time, PLEASE read the whole thing first***

Done everything and a lot of it, with the exception of Heroin. Keep your beer/lager can't stand the taste.
Whiskey and Gold or Black Rum or a nice Bourbon for me and with a meal a nice drop of red wine.

Getting back to the drugs I don't do anything now, though there is a tiny part of my brain telling me I wish I could, but there are more important things in life and I have too much to lose, plus I have an addictive personality and I can't just do it now and again.

Loved weed and now and again it's o.k. but smoking it all day every day which I used to up until last year seriously messes the mind up.

Acid is awesome but so dangerous and you need to be headstrong and have no negative thoughts before taking or you'll have a bad trip. Done around a 1000 trips sometimes 10 tabs at a time, I must have been ****ing crazy.

Ecstasy is a love drug and you love everyone and everything and can't stop dancing, done this a good few hundred times again up to 10 pills at a time.

Speed is the worst for a come down for me and it seriously ****s your joints up (not the ones you smoke) and only used this with other drugs to prolong the effects.

Kettamine only done it once as I was ****ed with it in an E, I had 15 of these and lucky I only took 1 that night and sold and lost the rest or I probably wouldn't be here today. That's the most ****ed up I've ever been plus everyone else that took them that night as well. Popham airfield about 10 miles from my home and 60,000 people back in 1992 one of the maddest nights ever.

Everyone off their faces and by the end of the night it seemed like we were swimming in mud.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vn4au9rj1fo


Love coke or charlie but never paid for it and used to run a dealer about who threw it at me just over a year ago. I was driving my taxi on 6 or 7 grams a night sometimes. I know I'm a twat and regret it big time, lucky I never had an accident.

Crack the best buzz of the lot and only did it once, lasts for a very short time and the most addictive thing I've ever come accross.


Regret doing so much of everything, in fact regret doing it at all, but had some awesome experiences but wouldn't recommend them to anyone else, and am thinking of a career change to help people come off their addictions, it's useless talking to someone who has never done anything before, they need to talk to someone who knows exactly what they are going through.

I also did them to run away from personal problems/demons in my head and it was a way of escaping real life, which I've realised you have to face head on and what don't kill you makes you stronger. If I could go back in time I wish I had never done anything despite the amazing experiences and good times, because once you have done them something in your mind changes for ever I can't explain what but you can never go back to how you were.

I know the first part sounds like I'm condoning them and make them sound good and fun and then it sounds like I'm contracdicting myself, but that's what they do after you've done them so many times. A small part of your brain tells you it was fun and great and you want to experience that again and get that same buzz or high, but the real person inside you (with me anyway) knows it was all wrong and unneccessary and facing up to life and all it throws at you is a big challenge while fighting the demons in my head telling me to go back and do it one more time, especially when something traumatic happens. That's the part of your brain telling you, you need it to cope, but I know I'm better than that and I will fight these demons forever and they are not going to get the better of me ever again. This is one fight I'm not going to lose no matter how hard it all gets, because if I do it just once I'll be back on everything again in no time and ruined all the hard work, and evil terrifying nightmares I endured coming off it all and I'm not going through that again. I can't and won't let myself or my beautiful family down again.

Sorry it's so long but it's very hard to describe, but if I've stopped just one person from trying it and ruining their life then I've achieved something worthwhile.

mate you sound like you've overcome a serious drugs problem there. 1000 acid tabs!!! thats some serious narcotics to be consuming. But all the best for pushing through it. a clear head is the key to a warm heart

mate you sound like you've overcome a serious drugs problem there. 1000 acid tabs!!! thats some serious narcotics to be consuming. But all the best for pushing through it. a clear head is the key to a warm heart

My hearts warm right now, I had a chicken vindaloo last night and skipped breakfast - had heartburn all morning.

Failing that "a clear head is the key to a warm heart" soundsl like a Jerry Springer final thought! You been watching living tv? haha

Im friends with that Psychologist nuthugger off the Jeremy Kyle show haha

Wow, Hurricane, fantastic post mate, I never expected that when I started this thread.

Good work fella :)

I have done pretty much everything besides some rare crap.

Drugs are no good for you mayne!!!!

Excluding paracetamol & other legal prescription drugs....

im tempted to lie in order to make myself look better but in light of hurricanes honesty i might aswell tell the truth. i started taking drugs when i was 14 and it quickly escalated from resin (mild form of cannabis) to skunk, to ecstacy and eventually to coke mixed with mushies, lsd once and most shamefully to gas sniffing. selling e and skunk was also a bad point. it was a bad part of my life which lasted from year 9/10 of school untill last year when i took a gap year and realised the best i could hope for in life would be to be a manager at macdonalds unless i sortd my act out.

i lost a lot of weight and totally shunned my family like an absolute tosser, got myself in ****ing stupid amounts of debt and basically acted like a royal arsehole. my life revolved around rave and drugs although i must admit i had some wicked times.

Dont ask how i made it through college because god only knows but i did and so i took the great opportunity to come to university. best choice i ever made.

i would encourage the lot of you not to start taking them. you might enjoy it at first but it ****s our head up in the long term. i know the press magnifies every little problem but honestly cannabis, speed and the trippy shit seriously **** your head up. paranoia, anxiety, moodswings, anger, the ****ing lot i tell you.

i guess the thing that really forced me to shape up my act was when some of the lads started smoking crack, there's only one step from there in my opinion and thats heroin. **** that!

anyways moral of the story is if you are going to take drugs at all, do it in moderation. if you dont trust yourself to do that then dont do it at all.

There are a lot of mixed responses so far, well heres my story if anyone wants to hear it...

I started smoking fags when I was about 14 and quickly got into weed. About the same time as this I got into boxing, which made me think about what I was doing and I stopped smoking everything when I was 16. But as time went on I felt myself losing my commintment to boxing and when I was 18 and about to go to Uni I stopped boxing and almost immediately started smoking weed again, mainly skunk. I am 20 now and still smoke weed most weeks. I especially enjoy a couple of spliffs after a night out and for me you can't beat it, especially when with a group of good mates. I have had so many memorable times while stoned.

Since I have come to Uni I have done a bit of coke here and there, but I don't see the buzz around it. I didn't enjoy it one bit and don't intend doing it again. I have also done some pills, which was good, but not really worth the risk. I also took some mushrooms a couple of months back. It was one of the worst experiences of my life and would recommend to stay away from them.

I would never try to convince someone to do something they don't want to do, but as the saying goes...don't knock it until you've tried it.

I have smoked dope. Don't like it.

I take coke occasionally, used to take it often. Better things to spend money on.

Took ecstasy a number of times. I'm not going to advise people to take drugs but I have to be honest and say that the first time I took an ecstasy was a brilliant experience. Don't do it often though.

I have tried ketamine and it was a very odd experience. I felt as though I was in some sort of bubble and everything I touched felt bubble-like. This stuff is used to tranquilise horses so if you are struggling to sleep it might be an idea.

They say drugs are for mugs but the truth is millions of people dabble in drugs, enjoy themselves and never experience any problems. The difficulty is that some other people get addicted or just generally abuse drugs until they become incapable of functioning in normal life. I can't say drugs are good in moderation because patently they are not but they are not something to be feared and if you are going to avoid them don't do it out of fear.

if you argue against drug use, your just as bad as people who argue for it in my opinion.

the majority of arguments for both sides are based on people romanticizing their own experiences.

people should do what they want, as long as they understand the possible consequences. 90% of my mates have battered something at one point or another, there all fine, including the one who was addicted to smack for over 10 years.

make your own mind up, and dont waste your time trying to convince other people your opinion is right.

This stuff is used to tranquilise horses so if you are struggling to sleep it might be an idea.



by the way that isn't actually true, it was used on horses as an experiment by the military to make them 'more efficient', they found the horses could jump up higher and run faster when ketamin was introduced to their system.

I've done my fair share of Drugs and about two months ago quit smoking weed which was my drug of choice since High School. I like the feeling it gives me especially after a hard working day, but it made me lazy and things I wanted to get accomplished in my life wasn't happening and marijuana was a contributor to that. I don't see a problem smoking here and there if your comfortable with it, but it can cloud your mind after a while.

After my first year of college I can back home for the summer and some good friends of mine were doing Meth. I tried it and liked it, but didn't think I would get caught up in it. I eventually did though and for about a year and half it was something I did. There would be times where I would quit, but I would come back to it. I had binges staying up days at a time, but after a while I realized why in the hell am i doing this. The come down sucked and I wasn't getting sleep or eating very much and I like sleep and eating. Plus I was seeing it destroy some of my close friends and I didn't want that to happen to me. Coke i've done as well, but it reminds me of Meth to a lesser extent so I stay away from that to.

Estacy I've done a few times and the feeling was good, but the last time I did it the come down sucked so I was finished with that. LSD and Mushrooms I've done a few times, but in my last experience it freaked me out and Im usually strong minded and ready for the effect, but damn it was a roller coaster of emotions that left me happy when it was done.

In the end if there was a drug that I still might do it's weed, but only when the time is right. Drugs seemed cool to me when I was younger, but as I got older I realized I could have the same kind of fun without them.

I have tried a few drugs but didn’t find them that great to be honest. Weed didn’t do anything for me at all, I know that if you take Weed a lot you can get serious mental problems when you get old according to someone i know who works in a mental home. I remember watching that program about how they make Coke it kinda put me of when they started putting concrete and petrol into the mixture.

Every few months a get a crate of stella 10 E's 3 gram of charlie and leave this earth for 48 hours.

Don't smoke weed though :lol1:

by the way that isn't actually true, it was used on horses as an experiment by the military to make them 'more efficient', they found the horses could jump up higher and run faster when ketamin was introduced to their system.

Ketamine is the ****ing SHIT .. nearly as good as MDMA.

by the way that isn't actually true, it was used on horses as an experiment by the military to make them 'more efficient', they found the horses could jump up higher and run faster when ketamin was introduced to their system.

I woud be interested in seeing a source for that mate. As far as I'm aware it's a sedative/anaesthetic. Not something that would increase physical performance, quite the opposite I thought?

I woud be interested in seeing a source for that mate. As far as I'm aware it's a sedative/anaesthetic. Not something that would increase physical performance, quite the opposite I thought?

'Ketamine effects on horses, which where applied by the US army in Arizona during the 1980's proved ketamine provided horses with the faculty to jump notably higher than when they were not under the influence of ketamine. Thus, being a response of stimulatant effects.'

from 'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketamine'

if ketamin were actually used as an anaesthetic on horses, then the human system would just shut down on introduction due to the huge difference in mass and metabolic rate, between a horse and a man.

if you actually want to educate yourself about the matter then read:

www.vmd.gov.uk/espcsite/Documents/104228.DOC

and..

vfdergi.yyu.edu.tr/2007_1/pdf/11.pdf

also look into ketamin being used as an anti-depresant for humans.

THEN,,,,

go to uni for a few years,

educate yourself,

after that come back to the boxing scene limey lounge and voice your opinion.

I remember watching that program about how they make Coke it kinda put me of when they started putting concrete and petrol into the mixture.

there are far nastier substances in fags mate.

'Ketamine effects on horses, which where applied by the US army in Arizona during the 1980's proved ketamine provided horses with the faculty to jump notably higher than when they were not under the influence of ketamine. Thus, being a response of stimulatant effects.'

from 'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketamine'

if ketamin were actually used as an anaesthetic on horses, then the human system would just shut down on introduction due to the huge difference in mass and metabolic rate, between a horse and a man.

if you actually want to educate yourself about the matter then read:

www.vmd.gov.uk/espcsite/Documents/104228.DOC

and..

vfdergi.yyu.edu.tr/2007_1/pdf/11.pdf

also look into ketamin being used as an anti-depresant for humans.

THEN,,,,

go to uni for a few years,

educate yourself,

after that come back to the boxing scene limey lounge and voice your opinion.

I'm still pretty sure that it IS actually used as an agent for equine anaesthesia. Here I quote directly from the link which YOU provided

"Onset of anaesthesia is gradual, the horse taking approximately 1 minute to become recumbent."

And I remain unconvinced about the whole US Army thing and the improvement of physical performance once Ket has been introduced to horses. The claim on Wiki is uncited, so remains unreliable. I did do a brief google as well, but nothing came up.

And as for you saying that if it was an anaesthetic for horses that it would shut the human body down, well there is a measurement in pharmacy called mg(s), I'm pretty sure that a horse and a human would require altering amounts.

I accept it has many different uses, you do seem correct about it's usage for depression treatments.

But for you to imply I'm stupid for correctly stating one of it's uses in horses make you look a right tit.

But for you to imply I'm stupid for correctly stating one of it's uses in horses make you look a right tit.

sorry mate i was blind drunk when i wrote that reply.

however the fact still remains that i'm correct, if your that bothered pay for some big papers on google documents.

sorry mate i was blind drunk when i wrote that reply.




No worries fella. :grouphug:

'Ketamine effects on horses, which where applied by the US army in Arizona during the 1980's proved ketamine provided horses with the faculty to jump notably higher than when they were not under the influence of ketamine. Thus, being a response of stimulatant effects.'

from 'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketamine'

if ketamin were actually used as an anaesthetic on horses, then the human system would just shut down on introduction due to the huge difference in mass and metabolic rate, between a horse and a man.

if you actually want to educate yourself about the matter then read:

www.vmd.gov.uk/espcsite/Documents/104228.DOC

and..

vfdergi.yyu.edu.tr/2007_1/pdf/11.pdf

also look into ketamin being used as an anti-depresant for humans.

THEN,,,,

go to uni for a few years,

educate yourself,

after that come back to the boxing scene limey lounge and voice your opinion.

:lol1: :lol1: now that was funny

Like a few others I was reading Hurricanes post, thinking he was doing a really good job, but I think I can add to that slightly with a few stories of my own. When I was just tuyrned 17, in my first year of college, I became friendly with a kid in my physics class who enjoyed the odd spliff. We started going out on the piss on weekends and I started smoking cigs after a few beers, even though the taste made me ill when I was sober. Started smoking the odd spliff with my mate now and then, but although he would always offer it to me, I never felt under any pressure to say yes, and did it all of my own accord, which is something I really respect him for. That's the best bit of advice anyone can give to you, if you fancy gioving it a go, then by all means do it, but make sure you're doing it because YOU want to, not because somebody else wants you to. Anyways, back to the story now. After a while smoking weed I began to try other things, mainly speed, E's and coke, although I never really fell into these very much, and for a very good reason. I was out with my friend from college who I first started smoking weed with, and it was his mates birthday. They were all going camping that night, but I already had plans and was unable to go. The next day I find out that while they were there, they took some really ****ed up shit, mixtures of coke and crushed up pills and all kinds of shit. It was coming to the end of the night and my friend was offered a tab of acid. He said no at first because he had a bad trip off one before, but his mates talked him round, something which in my eyes is totally unforgivable, especially considering what happened next. They all go to sleep, believing all is fine. The next day when they wake up, they realise my friend was missing. After searching for about 2 hours, they can't find him anywhere. I get a phone call asking if I've heard from him, as he has disappeared. Then, while I am still on the phone explaining I hadn't spoken to him since the day before, I hear a girl scream on the other end of the phone. It turned out that my friend had another bad trip and couldn't sleep. While everyone else was asleep and unaware, he walked out into the forest and hung himself, my best friend, dead. I went to the funeral, and in all honesty I was a wreck. Had too much to drink afterwards and went on a right mad one, which ended up with me taking 4 grams of coke and 3 E's, before kicking off in front of everyone, all his family and his friends. I was having a right go at the kid who talked him into taking the acid, and the night ended with me breaking his nose and spending a very bad night in the cells. Worst comedown I have ever had and I have not touched anything other than weed since that night, about a year ago now. Saw the kid who talked him into taking the acid a few weeks ago. He's homeless now and I happen to know, due to knowing his dealer, that he spends any money he gets on heroin. To think I lost my best friend because of this worthless piece of shit still upsets me to this day. Kids, don't do drugs, but if you do, do it with a good group of friends and only do it because you want to. Peer pressure kills.

Ok, my turn then.

My first experience of drugs was a few drags from a dog-end bit of spliff that was left in my bro's ashtray. It didn't do much as it was only about 3-4 drags worth, but I was 11, and it was my first time, so the dosage was just about right to give a nice feeling. After that I started practicing skin up using herbs and broken cigs, once I'd got that down I started nicking weed from bro. This was easy enough as he was dealing about 2-3 nine bars a week, which as you may or may not know is a shit load. Soon enough I was robbing up to an ounce of weed a week from him and smoking it with my pals. Then I started to sell it myself, only for me to get grassed up by some ****er in school to the teachers. I was 15 now, and got cuffed in school and put in a police car in front of the whole school. I thought "yeah, I look pretty gangsta in front of everyone". I didn't look cool at all though, and at the end of it all, I nearly got sent to a youth detention centre (Limb Lane, you may know it Mickey). That really ****ed up that period of my life, I got expelled, my Mum had a hard time dealing with all the worry, and I developed a serious anger and feeling of revenge for the ****er that grassed me up. A feeling which has never gone away unfortunately.
Now I don't touch weed much at all, it makes me paranoid. I can't do pills cos they started to make me agressive (the opposite of what they should do!), and I never really got into acid, it's weird shit really, not for me. The last time I did mushrooms, I tried to hang myself, not good, especially as I wasn't even depressed, but the madness of the drug makes sane people do crazy things.
Nowadays I dabble only with alcohol and the odd gram of coke.

My conclusion is this, drugs are fun at first, but evrentually I think it's inevitable that they do **** your head up in time. I'll never discourage anyone, cos I think it's your own right to decide, but just be careful.

Oh, and Luke, thats ****ed up mate, there aint nothing worse than peer pressure, it makes my blood boil, and I'm glad that ****er is a smack head now, he deserves it.

Oh, and Luke, thats ****ed up mate, there aint nothing worse than peer pressure, it makes my blood boil, and I'm glad that ****er is a smack head now, he deserves it.

It takes everything in me not to beat the guy to death when I see him in the street. He actually asks me for money and doesn't even know who I am, even though all this happened about a year ago......

Terrible story that mate...

While we are on this subject what a great song this is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4XCGeckA-E

Terrible story that mate...

While we are on this subject what a great song this is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4XCGeckA-E

Props on the song, one of the best ever written.

Still makes me a little teary eyed now when I think about him though, never thought I'd admit to crying now I'm nearly 21 but I feel no shame in saying that occassionally I just burst into tears, mostly when I'm smoking a spliff on my own, I just long for him to be here to speak to and share a spliff with.

Anybody seen that episode of Skins from the first series, where Chris puts half a spliff on his brothers tombstone? The day after seeing that I went out to his grave and got as stoned as I think I've ever been. I just stayed there all day talking to him, and although he couldn't answer me, it just made it feel better to be able to speak to him, tell him what's going on like, catch up. I would also have left a spliff there, but he'd have kicked my ass for wasting it! :puppy_dog

Thanks for the kind words on the post lads, and Luke I'm sorry you lost your best friend and I too know how this feels, although with my friend it was in slightly different circumstances.

First off I can really understand the anger and hostility you hold towards that person that talked your friend into it, but it's not his fault. He was probably off his head at the time and just wanted another friend to join in the fun and had no idea it was gonna happen.

You said you was glad he's a smackhead, but despite your anger towards him I'm sure deep down you don't mean this, maybe you just don't realise it yet.
No one deserves this and I'm pretty sure that his downfall is the result of what happened and he feels racked with guilt, more than anyone realises.

One thing that irritates me is (not saying you do this) but a lot of people that dabble, or do a fair bit of any drug always look down on heroin users and say dirty ****ing smackheads, when IMO we are all the same, whether you smoke puff, do coke, acid or heroin. All are drugs and just because we don't do heroin it doesn't make us any better or different.


I still feel guilt for my friend dying, even though it was not my fault and once when he was round my house I actually thought I had killed him myself.

I met him at college and we became best mates right from the start, both with a zest for life and a childish sense of humour, back then neither of us did anything except for drinking and about 5-10 cigs a week.

Anyways a good 8 years later, I was best man at his wedding, and its where I met my wife, she was his cousin and at this stage I was heavily into pretty much everything. And I knew he had the odd-spliff but didn't realise he did much of anything else. Sure he talked about it, but I though it was just to impress me.

Ever since I knew him he had a form of epilepsy called pettimal which is where you just blank out for about 10 seconds and not fit and then come round and you don't realise what's happened and carry on what you were doing.

I at this point was at a really low point in my life, doing plenty of drugs and having no job and just coped with my first death, my nan. I was about to try and get into the taxi business but couldn't afford jack shit and was heavily into debt. He offered to give me the money to buy a cab and set myself up and said I don't have to pay him back. (He was genuine and meant it and one of the nicest people I've ever met and will ever meet).

I declined and got the money elsewhere, and a couple of months later he was round mine, he had split from his wife and wasn't allowed to see the kids and had developed full blown epilepsy from the stress of it all. (At least that's what I thought at the time). I hadn't seen him fit before, and offered him a bong, and I could bong more and better than anyone (thought I was big for this at the time) and loaded him up in my double barrell 2-litre bong. I told him to crouch down and hyper ventilate then light the bong and rise slowly and hold it in for as long as possible before exhaling. He did this and just as he exhaled in then seemed to gasp for air and fell face first on the floor having big convulsions, blood coming from his nose. I ****ing shit myself and thought I'd killed him, and it's something I'll never ever forget for as long as I live.

2 months later he had an epileptic fit in the bath and drown, at his place where he was lodging. Part of me still thinks it's my own fault for getting him into it, but he had his own mind and knew the dangers especially with his condition. After this and then having to put my dog down, I came so close to ending it all and thought I was worthless.

Anyways I have gotten over it and still think of my best mate all the time and remember the good times, I've even forgiven his wife that split with him, as at the time I blamed her as well for bringing on the epilepsy, when I now find out he wasn't taking his medication, and wasn't allowed to see his girls because he fitted infront of them and scared them and they were only very young girls at the time. I see his ex, as I live quite close and see his girls who are now 12 and 15 and we all talk about him and remember him, he will never be forgotten.

I've spilled my ****ing guts again, but it's on a serious subject and sometimes it's good to get things off your chest, even with strangers.

Luke, I know it's hard but don't be too hard on this lad, he's probably hurting more than you'll ever know and more than he'd admit.

Thanks for the kind words on the post lads, and Luke I'm sorry you lost your best friend and I too know how this feels, although with my friend it was in slightly different circumstances.

First off I can really understand the anger and hostility you hold towards that person that talked your friend into it, but it's not his fault. He was probably off his head at the time and just wanted another friend to join in the fun and had no idea it was gonna happen.

You said you was glad he's a smackhead, but despite your anger towards him I'm sure deep down you don't mean this, maybe you just don't realise it yet.
No one deserves this and I'm pretty sure that his downfall is the result of what happened and he feels racked with guilt, more than anyone realises.

One thing that irritates me is (not saying you do this) but a lot of people that dabble, or do a fair bit of any drug always look down on heroin users and say dirty ****ing smackheads, when IMO we are all the same, whether you smoke puff, do coke, acid or heroin. All are drugs and just because we don't do heroin it doesn't make us any better or different.


I still feel guilt for my friend dying, even though it was not my fault and once when he was round my house I actually thought I had killed him myself.

I met him at college and we became best mates right from the start, both with a zest for life and a childish sense of humour, back then neither of us did anything except for drinking and about 5-10 cigs a week.

Anyways a good 8 years later, I was best man at his wedding, and its where I met my wife, she was his cousin and at this stage I was heavily into pretty much everything. And I knew he had the odd-spliff but didn't realise he did much of anything else. Sure he talked about it, but I though it was just to impress me.

Ever since I knew him he had a form of epilepsy called pettimal which is where you just blank out for about 10 seconds and not fit and then come round and you don't realise what's happened and carry on what you were doing.

I at this point was at a really low point in my life, doing plenty of drugs and having no job and just coped with my first death, my nan. I was about to try and get into the taxi business but couldn't afford jack shit and was heavily into debt. He offered to give me the money to buy a cab and set myself up and said I don't have to pay him back. (He was genuine and meant it and one of the nicest people I've ever met and will ever meet).

I declined and got the money elsewhere, and a couple of months later he was round mine, he had split from his wife and wasn't allowed to see the kids and had developed full blown epilepsy from the stress of it all. (At least that's what I thought at the time). I hadn't seen him fit before, and offered him a bong, and I could bong more and better than anyone (thought I was big for this at the time) and loaded him up in my double barrell 2-litre bong. I told him to crouch down and hyper ventilate then light the bong and rise slowly and hold it in for as long as possible before exhaling. He did this and just as he exhaled in then seemed to gasp for air and fell face first on the floor having big convulsions, blood coming from his nose. I ****ing shit myself and thought I'd killed him, and it's something I'll never ever forget for as long as I live.

2 months later he had an epileptic fit in the bath and drown, at his place where he was lodging. Part of me still thinks it's my own fault for getting him into it, but he had his own mind and knew the dangers especially with his condition. After this and then having to put my dog down, I came so close to ending it all and thought I was worthless.

Anyways I have gotten over it and still think of my best mate all the time and remember the good times, I've even forgiven his wife that split with him, as at the time I blamed her as well for bringing on the epilepsy, when I now find out he wasn't taking his medication, and wasn't allowed to see his girls because he fitted infront of them and scared them and they were only very young girls at the time. I see his ex, as I live quite close and see his girls who are now 12 and 15 and we all talk about him and remember him, he will never be forgotten.

I've spilled my ****ing guts again, but it's on a serious subject and sometimes it's good to get things off your chest, even with strangers.

Luke, I know it's hard but don't be too hard on this lad, he's probably hurting more than you'll ever know and more than he'd admit.

your one deep fella hurricane. sorry about your mate, my uncle died in an epileptic fit so i appreciate how horrible that shit can be. your right about not placing blame on someone also. if one of my mates had died off a pill i had sorted them i would never of forgiven myself. in many ways that is punishment enough

Shit sorry to hear your stories lads.
I was gonna tell some funny bong stories but i think they'll be inapropriate

Luke, I know it's hard but don't be too hard on this lad, he's probably hurting more than you'll ever know and more than he'd admit.

I don't blame him now, and in all honesty I never have. It's like you said, he knew what he was doing, whether he was talked round or not. I know I was out of order when I lost it with him, but I couldn't control myself at the time. I've had a really shitty day at work, so I'm not in the mood to read my post again, but I don't think I did refer to him as a smackhead, not sure though, apologies if I did. :luvbed:

I don't blame him now, and in all honesty I never have. It's like you said, he knew what he was doing, whether he was talked round or not. I know I was out of order when I lost it with him, but I couldn't control myself at the time. I've had a really shitty day at work, so I'm not in the mood to read my post again, but I don't think I did refer to him as a smackhead, not sure though, apologies if I did. :luvbed:

No, I got that bit wrong it was Naps. When your angry it's easy to shift blame onto someone else, rather than admitting the friend you lost was just as much to blame. I've done it myself and carried a grudge for years, now I'm older and a little wiser.

Ive done weed(make's me just chill when im on it), coke(I don't shut up when im on it), Mushrooms(made me see crazy stuff), Triple C's( also made me see crazy stuff, that I would try to reach out and touch) Ectasy( love drug my ass, kicked some guys ass in the club while on it, then went out and danced the whole rest of the night) I think that about sums up my drug history. I dont do anything now BTW, just drink beer.