View Full Version : who feels let down by joe??


dansapien
04-20-2008, 03:23 AM
i ****ing do.

he fought an awful fight tonight, and only just squeezed out a win in my opinion. hopkins neutralized him BIG TIME throughout the majority of the fight.

I REALLY wanted Joe to put on a stellar performance, but he didn't. Fair enough in some peoples eyes a win is a win, but not in mine.

He was lucky to get that victory, he didn't silence any critics, and is more than likely going to fight RJJ next, who has no business even being in the ring anymore.

Even in victory it appears Joe has lost in terms of the educated british boxing fans opinion.

GMitchell
04-20-2008, 03:39 AM
he had a bad night. He still clearly won the fight, your just looking at it negatively...

branagan
04-20-2008, 04:13 AM
i was not impressed by him

hayZ
04-20-2008, 04:21 AM
hopkins style makes you look ugly

hemichromis
04-20-2008, 05:08 AM
hopkins fought a very good fight! i underestimated him. the big right at the start certainly made calzaghe a little nervous for the next few rounds. still calzaghe one that fight, im suprirsed it as a split decision.

ashthadon
04-20-2008, 07:31 AM
Hopkins had a good fight,i though Calzaghe was a bit too weiry the first few rounds he was just standing in front of him and not throwing much that's why hopkins was getting some right hands and things need a tap more movment,but as the fight went on he was edging rounds,hopkins in the end seem to be gassing out a little age showed then but on another day the fight could of gone hopkins way was a hard one to score:boxing:

hemichromis
04-20-2008, 07:57 AM
Hopkins had a good fight,i though Calzaghe was a bit too weiry the first few rounds he was just standing in front of him and not throwing much that's why hopkins was getting some right hands and things need a tap more movment,but as the fight went on he was edging rounds,hopkins in the end seem to be gassing out a little age showed then but on another day the fight could of gone hopkins way was a hard one to score:boxing:

indeed hopkins was ALOT better than expected!

ophqui
04-20-2008, 08:15 AM
anywhere other than vegas and this would have gone to hopkins i think. If the same fight and result had happened in london yanks would be screaming robbery i think (and they'd be right). Its just the whole 'score on aggression and ignore whos actually landing' thing that judges do in vegas.

.Mik.
04-20-2008, 09:04 AM
Any win over Hopkins is a good win.

TRANSWARP
04-20-2008, 09:24 AM
This wasn't bad calzaghe, it was bad hopkins, and hopkins still won.

James78
04-20-2008, 09:55 AM
This wasn't bad calzaghe, it was bad hopkins, and hopkins still won.
Read the scorecards guy your boy LOST LOST LOST LOST LOST LOST LOST LOST LOST!!! DEAL WITH IT!

sleazyfellow
04-20-2008, 10:16 AM
hopkins style makes you look ugly

TRUTH, hopkins can make anyone look like ****, he knows how to fight his fight against almost any style. I hate UDs though, I hope joe fights again and has a better performance.

The Monk
04-20-2008, 10:18 AM
I don't feel let down by Joe at all, in fact I feel prouder than ever. He was fighting someone who would make Muhammed Ali look bad, but still came through and got the job done. He got himself off the canvas and showed tremendous courage and slowly, but surely boxed his way back into contention. I am seeing a lot of posts bringing up Hopkins age, which I expected, but Hop was in great shape and still a formidable fighter. With last nights win, Joe has cemented his legacy as one of the greatest British fighters of all time IMO.

Sage84
04-20-2008, 10:57 AM
I dont feel let down at all!!

How can anyone look good against the fight Hopkins put on last night...i dont think he made a single forwards step and wouldnt throw a punch unless it was a counter..in the end that lost him the fight..

Joe out worked him in the end, judges like aggression and Hopkins showed NONE.

I had Joe winning by 2...it was close one but NO DOUBT it was Joe's fight.

karlobarlo
04-20-2008, 11:07 AM
This wasn't bad calzaghe, it was bad hopkins, and hopkins still won.

Thats bull**** mate. Hopkins has been a spoiler his whole career and thats why I have always hated watching his fights. He is the most negative fighter in boxing. Its nearly impossible to look good against him. Plus he was far bigger than Calzaghe. Joe couldnt boss the fight. I was happy with Joe because he dealt with Hopkins spoiling tactics well enough and better than most others. I feel Hopkins was the disgraced one for his antics over the 'low blow'. I hope that he disappears now because I think he is bad for the sport. A total mouth and far far too negative.

smokeyjackson
04-20-2008, 11:10 AM
i think you will find it was Joe Calzaghe who won

just wipe your mouths and move on, we had to when Mayweather hammered Hatton, the only fighters that get gifted decisiond in Vegas are Americans

tytan
04-20-2008, 12:12 PM
Yeh Calzaghe didn't perform well, but if you can win on a
bad performance then you're a truly great fighter!! CALZAGHE!!!!!!!!
:boxing: :boxing: :boxing:

Darkstranger
04-20-2008, 01:38 PM
anywhere other than vegas and this would have gone to hopkins i think. If the same fight and result had happened in london yanks would be screaming robbery i think (and they'd be right). Its just the whole 'score on aggression and ignore whos actually landing' thing that judges do in vegas.

I thought the stats showed that Calzaghe outlanded Bernard Hopkins anyway!

Swellbo
04-20-2008, 01:42 PM
i was not impressed by Joe at all. It was B Hops fight. Joe only got in flurry's of slaps when he could.

Alonzo Harris
04-20-2008, 02:20 PM
I don't I exspected a slow and cagey and scrappy fight and I got it.

I also exspected to see Joe calzaghe beat B hop on points... And I got it.

You got to remember everyone looks **** against hopkins thats what he does and thats what happened now calzaghe should fight pavlik.

T-97
04-20-2008, 02:49 PM
I don't I exspected a slow and cagey and scrappy fight and I got it.

I also exspected to see Joe calzaghe beat B hop on points... And I got it.

You got to remember everyone looks **** against hopkins thats what he does and thats what happened now calzaghe should fight pavlik.

I think it would be pretty similar to Calzaghe-Kessler tbh..

CardioMonster
04-20-2008, 03:17 PM
i thought Calzaghe did very well, he fought hopkins in his own back yard, under his rules and still beat him.

Hopkins' whole style is to make the fight into a ****fest. He is simply horrible to watch.

Calzaghe fought okay, wasn`t great but did enough to scrap a win. Hopkins was just Hopkins, boring from beginning to end and ultimately he got what he deserved for his negative tactics.

cazzoduro1
04-20-2008, 03:55 PM
Joe did not have his best night last night. That being said, I can't believe that there are people out there who actually think that Hopkins somehow won that fight, unbelievable! Hopkins would have made anyone look bad last
night. All he did was grab and hold, grab and hold the entire fight, he wouldn't allow Calzaghe to fight. What about the 5 minute rest he took on the punch to his upper abdomen? What B.S.
Do you know what impresses me most about Joe? Everything that he has accomplished in the ring his entire career he did on NATURAL ABILITY ALONE.
Why do I say that? He's been trained his whole life by his father,
A jazz musician, who understands f**k all about the fight game.
Imagine, just imagine how good a fighter he would been had he been trained
the past 10 years or so
by a top notch trainer like Floyd Mayweather Sr., Emanuel Steward or even
Buddy McGirt, someone who would have really taught him how to fight and maximize his talents? A good strength and conditioning coach like Hopkin's has wouldn't hurt either. Emanuel Steward was pointing out minor adjustments that he could have made last night which would have led to his winning the fight more decisively than he did. I think that it's a shame that Calzaghe never had the benefit of a top trainer. You can blame his father for that.

fasman
04-20-2008, 03:58 PM
i thought hopkins had that, calzaghe was bollocks.....

boxchmpn
04-20-2008, 04:32 PM
Calzaghe got a win whoopy doo, Hopkins is 43 years old. Just by Calzaghe edging by doesn't mean anything. Calzaghe still has to fight 3 more american fights to prove he's something. If i was Calzaghe i wouldn't be celebrating too hard over this fight with Hopkins like he accomplished much. The fight last night was all about what Hopkins was unable to do than what Calzaghe was able to. Calzaghe fought a shell of Hopkins and couldn't do much, which give testimony on how great a fighter Hopkins was. 7 years ago Hopkins would have crushed Calzaghe and theres' no doubt about it. Hopkins is a living legend and should retire as such. Everyone wants to start calling Calzaghe pound 4 pound shows how weak and unimportant it is to be on the pound 4 pound list.

elgaringo
04-20-2008, 04:54 PM
i ****ing do.

he fought an awful fight tonight, and only just squeezed out a win in my opinion. hopkins neutralized him BIG TIME throughout the majority of the fight.

I REALLY wanted Joe to put on a stellar performance, but he didn't. Fair enough in some peoples eyes a win is a win, but not in mine.

He was lucky to get that victory, he didn't silence any critics, and is more than likely going to fight RJJ next, who has no business even being in the ring anymore.

Even in victory it appears Joe has lost in terms of the educated british boxing fans opinion.

its more down to how hopkins made him look:boxing: :boxing:

CardioMonster
04-23-2008, 01:04 PM
I really believe that had the referee been more rigourous with Hopkins incessant holding tactics, it would have been a different fight.

You cant seriously be allowed to clinch every time soemone moves onto the inside, its ridiculous.

All Hopkins did was grab Calzaghe at every opportunity and fire a right hand on the way in. He ran for the whole fight and looked like he ran out of steam by round 9.

If the fight was fought under queensbury rules, which Cortez should try reading, Hopkins would have been out of there on exhaustion alone.

He gets through 12 round fights because he spends 2 minutes of every round hugging his opponent.

Someone needs to do something, its a joke.

luv3s2sp00g3
04-28-2008, 08:01 AM
I was hugely disappointed in Joe and scared as hell of the decision when it was over. If anything, the result of the fight only made Hopkins look better and Joe look worse. Joe was SUPPOSED to win, yet a 43 year old Hopkins gave joe the toughest fight of his life and hit him more accurately and flush than kessler did. Hopkins might not have won but he really did have the moral victory in the end.