Ive just started going to a pro gym and the difference in styles is already obvious. Before when i was going for a straight right id simply twist the back leg, now im being told to step forward with the back leg. do you guys agree with this technique?
also more people fight with only one hand up, and the other midway, in a more relaxed way.
ive been told to train hard for a while and then theyll decide whether i should be seen by a promoter (by a while i mean ages - since im new)
anyway i guess the question is:
is it good to learn a pro style straight off?
is there a big difference between am and pro style?
should i really go to an am gym for a while?

do what you fancy. i started off learning a pro style, and then went to an amatuer gym where they drilled alot of stuff outta me.

You can get away with alot more in a pro ring. They styles are very different.

Do what you think is best, depending what your goal is.

how many am fights have you had?, whats your record?

amateur boxing is a much more safer environment to develop your skills as a boxer, whether or not you want to enter the pro game.

your probably gonna laugh but i havent fought yet.
ive just started recently (a few months ago) and was set to train for my first am fight later this year, but it looks like that wont be happening. i dont mean to toot my own horn so to speak, but alot of people have been impressed and suprised how short a time ive been boxing, and the guy who runs the gym saw me today and said i have more power than most boys my age and size
so yeah i think im gonna carry on at the new gym, its closer to me aswell, which is important for cutting time travelling (as i should be revising for exams).

the difference between pro and am gym was so obvious tonight:
- wasnt overcrowded
- about 4 trainers to 14 of us
- good bags
- good technique support
- strong work ethic

it was tiring but fullfilling

do what you fancy. i started off learning a pro style, and then went to an amatuer gym where they drilled alot of stuff outta me.

You can get away with alot more in a pro ring. They styles are very different.

Do what you think is best, depending what your goal is.

How do you know whats a pro gym and whats an amateur gym? I thought gyms just had amateur and pro fighters in the club ...

How do you know whats a pro gym and whats an amateur gym? I thought gyms just had amateur and pro fighters in the club ...

Some gyms are pro-am where they mix it. Some don't have amatuers at all but have competing fighters and more often unlicensed boxers.

The two styles are very different. On a side note, many Sheffield gyms teach how to box Pro instead of amatuer as a hand-me-down from the Brendan Ingle gyms - which enforce this ethic. Just sayin...

Ive just started going to a pro gym and the difference in styles is already obvious. Before when i was going for a straight right id simply twist the back leg, now im being told to step forward with the back leg. do you guys agree with this technique?
also more people fight with only one hand up, and the other midway, in a more relaxed way.
ive been told to train hard for a while and then theyll decide whether i should be seen by a promoter (by a while i mean ages - since im new)
anyway i guess the question is:
is it good to learn a pro style straight off?
is there a big difference between am and pro style?
should i really go to an am gym for a while?

Take a step with the front foot when throwing the lead right and youll do somethin' with it.

People fight with one hand up until some one sets them on their ass. Keep them both up.

A promoter could honestly give a shit about you. In reality to him you are a fresh piece of meat to feed to his dogs. I mean you have had no amatuer fights, little gym experience to even speak of, compared to the fighters rolling right now.

This is the thing with the amatuers and pro styles. In the ams your learning to get the punches there with out being hit back. The ams are about speed finese and strategy, it goes down real fast. In the pros you are working off of the amatuer style learning to dig rather than to touch, and this goes down even faster and harder. In the amatuers its about learning and growing. In the pros its about damage and learning not only to survive but to thrive. With the pros you gotta be able to fight with the blood running heavily into your eye. As the salt burns from the blood you have to have been in there fighting a million times before to not only keep your composure but to keep you head remaining up there on you shoulders.

If you want to fight pro then I HIGHLY recomend that you spend many years in the amatuers learning how to do it the safe way. Then build off of a solid foundation.

And I again recommend that you do not speak of your near future pro aspirations. You walk into a gym saying that your turning pro soon they will beat on you like a pro, the other pros will.

And with wishing to throw fists with the pros I say be carefull what you wish for. Ofcourse unless youve already paid your many years in the gym. Its blood sweat and tears and from your words I would gather that youve spilled little or any of those. Make sure that when you box you wear green, oh wait, they'll already know.......................Rockin':boxing:

agree with everything here. rockin' knows what he's talking about.

adding something myself, when throwing a lead right, make sure to bring up the back leg after planting the left. in different situations, you can coordinate the punch with the front or back leg. hopefully, my system's basic coordination isn't too much different than how you are being taught so you know what i am talking about.




Take a step with the front foot when throwing the lead right and youll do somethin' with it.

People fight with one hand up until some one sets them on their ass. Keep them both up.

A promoter could honestly give a shit about you. In reality to him you are a fresh piece of meat to feed to his dogs. I mean you have had no amatuer fights, little gym experience to even speak of, compared to the fighters rolling right now.

This is the thing with the amatuers and pro styles. In the ams your learning to get the punches there with out being hit back. The ams are about speed finese and strategy, it goes down real fast. In the pros you are working off of the amatuer style learning to dig rather than to touch, and this goes down even faster and harder. In the amatuers its about learning and growing. In the pros its about damage and learning not only to survive but to thrive. With the pros you gotta be able to fight with the blood running heavily into your eye. As the salt burns from the blood you have to have been in there fighting a million times before to not only keep your composure but to keep you head remaining up there on you shoulders.

If you want to fight pro then I HIGHLY recomend that you spend many years in the amatuers learning how to do it the safe way. Then build off of a solid foundation.

And I again recommend that you do not speak of your near future pro aspirations. You walk into a gym saying that your turning pro soon they will beat on you like a pro, the other pros will.

And with wishing to throw fists with the pros I say be carefull what you wish for. Ofcourse unless youve already paid your many years in the gym. Its blood sweat and tears and from your words I would gather that youve spilled little or any of those. Make sure that when you box you wear green, oh wait, they'll already know.......................Rockin':boxing:

Learning the proffesionals way will not help your amateur carreer because how they score amateur and proffesional fights is different. pro's take there time, picking and landing accurate shots, preserving energy by not doing much in early rounds to increase longevity throughout the 12 rounds.

Judges in the pro game score on style, accuracy etc. for example floyd maywether is pound for pound king (which i think is a very true statement). reason being is he throws half as many punches, uses half of his energy and still wins fights, you could never do that in the amateur game because its all scored on how many punches land, regardless of anything else.

thats why amateur fights look fast and scrappy because judges are simply counting and scoring punches landed within a very short amount of time (less rounds), so amateurs feel the need and urgency to wild out on their opponents.

I hate amateur boxing for that reason, but everyone needs to prove themself before going pro

It depends... if you fight like a Pro and don't get the K.O. an AM fighter that throws alot of punches will beat you everytime.

All they gotta do is land on the white part in the AMs..

Unless you fight like Calzaghe which is sorta an AM style of Pro fighting..

Throw alot and get the points. Understand where I'm getting at?

man i hate the amateur style.. if some guy tickles me 4 times and i sit him on his ass 3 times.. he wins the fight? doesnt suit me

It depends... if you fight like a Pro and don't get the K.O. an AM fighter that throws alot of punches will beat you everytime.

All they gotta do is land on the white part in the AMs..

Unless you fight like Calzaghe which is sorta an AM style of Pro fighting..

Throw alot and get the points. Understand where I'm getting at?

In my opinion that depends on what you mean by "style." The only thing Calzaghe's style has in common with amateur boxing is that he keeps a high pace. As far as technique, the way he throws his punches, the sort of hits he's aiming for, footwork, tactics etc., it is far different than amateurs. The top international level ones at least, and since they're the best at that style, they're the ones you should compare to.

Thats a good point about the knockout but knockouts come rarely in amateur ranks which again is why pro styles dont really work.

I knew a response like that was coming... lol thats why i shouldn't have used calzaghe when I was really only referring to hiw workrate of a good Am Fighter.

I knew a response like that was coming... lol thats why i shouldn't have used calzaghe when I was really only referring to hiw workrate of a good Am Fighter.

I know what you're saying, I just felt like clarifying that actually looking at good amateur fighters to understand what makes a succesful am fighter is the best way to go. Oh, and that Calzaghe's "style" is a lot less technically proficient than most top ams. :)

There were some brutal brutal fights in this years NYC Golden gloves and quite a few nasty knockouts.

thanks this has all been helpful
i spoke to my coach the other day and he said that he doesnt even enter the serious guys at his gym for am fights, only pro ones when/if theyre good enough. i spoke to the trainer whos only 18 and he said he had to get am fights secretly, its better than the other gym i was at and closer but im beginning to have wished there was an alternative.
also, wats the youngest age you can fight pro? (not trying to imply im good enough)

i spoke to the trainer whos only 18....

Hmmm! 18 sounds a bit too young for me to be a trainer. I mean, what real experience can you muster in the game by that age to be able to train new boxers to the art of boxing?

"man i hate the amateur style.. if some guy tickles me 4 times and i sit him on his ass 3 times.. he wins the fight? doesnt suit me"

Then win VIA TKO. Whats your record?

its my sort of mini trainer (who sort of watches out for me as i train) whos 18. my main guy is in his 40s and is an ex-pro heavyweight

If you're 15 I would stick to fighting amatuer fights for a while before even considering going pro, training with pros etc. You need to build experience in the ring and the only way you'll get that is by fighting amatuer fights. Most countries require you to be 18 before going pro. Just about every sucessful pro goes through the amatuer circut for a long time before going pro. Most of those guys have almost 100 or more am fights.

im not doubting that i need exp before fighting pro (if im ever good enough), i just dont know what to do exactly. my coach is saying he doesnt enter people for am fights. ive spoken to my sort of mini trainer and he said that under the same guy he just took the initiative to set up his own fights, with other decent boxers but with no official am record. he also entered for a tournament or two.
i do find it odd that he doesnt do am training.
oh well, i have no real alternative at the moment

hmmm well in my gym we got both so i guess i have a advantage

yeah, it would be nice to have best of both worlds, but i guess you cant win em all

Learning the proffesionals way will not help your amateur carreer because how they score amateur and proffesional fights is different. pro's take there time, picking and landing accurate shots, preserving energy by not doing much in early rounds to increase longevity throughout the 12 rounds.

Judges in the pro game score on style, accuracy etc. for example floyd maywether is pound for pound king (which i think is a very true statement). reason being is he throws half as many punches, uses half of his energy and still wins fights, you could never do that in the amateur game because its all scored on how many punches land, regardless of anything else.

thats why amateur fights look fast and scrappy because judges are simply counting and scoring punches landed within a very short amount of time (less rounds), so amateurs feel the need and urgency to wild out on their opponents.

I hate amateur boxing for that reason, but everyone needs to prove themself before going pro

yea thats why i hate amateur boxing, its kina ugly, and its full of people just brawling with no skill. i like to take my time, and pick my shots, and try and outsmart my opponent, thats where the beauty of the sport comes in, not just fkn head bashing.

yeah, it would be nice to have best of both worlds, but i guess you cant win em all

u know to tell u the truth when i was reading this i was wtf 'there 2 styles' lol the amateurs that compite we get trained the same way but of corse the professinal go for longer time

You cannot spar with pros unless your are a liensed professional. otherwise they can shut down your gym if you are in the US.

im not sparring with pros, and i live in england.
ive basically found out something different now.
there are a few pros, but there are practicing novices. however, they dont enter people for am fights, only pro. or something along those lines

You cannot spar with pros unless your are a liensed professional. otherwise they can shut down your gym if you are in the US.

lol we spar with them all the time LOL, i never heard of that

i think technically perhaps in the us you cant spar them for insurance reasons, but tbh as long as noone gets really hurt, noone cares/finds out

i think the am scoring system is bullshit, i lost my first fight on A points decision and i was ripping him hard in the body and putting him on the backfoot and wobbling him with shots and he was just tapping me, it doesnt reward a better boxer, its just who can throw the most slaps basically. i think they should go back to the round by round scoring system where they just award a round to either fighter based on aggression accuracy of punches, power shots, defence and overall dominance. and they should ditch the headgear (which doesnt even protect you that much) and the 2 min rounds, make it 3x3. like im still gonna box because i love to fight and i love the sport, but i like to pace myself and im a natural power puncher so i know im going to lose a few points decisions but i think im still a good enough boxer to achieve something in the ams, alot of people have said so, and i have been upping my workrate and learning some am tricks etc so yeah but i just hate the scoring system

^^ i guess you have to make a decision:
stay stylish, punch hard, go for dominance
or play the game, save power, speed punch, get as many taps as possible
im about power as well so am doesnt suit me that much

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Yeh I saw amateur fights on utube though where one goes for the tap, tap, tap and the other takes it easy, waits, counters with great combos, steps out, waits, etc, etc

It looked alot more appealing