Its 19 years today since the Hillsborough disaster were 96 Liverpool fans lost their lives.

The Hillsborough Disaster was a deadly human crush that occurred on April 15, 1989, at Hillsborough, a football stadium in Sheffield, England resulting in the deaths of 96 people (all fans of Liverpool Football Club).

The match was an FA cup semi-final between Liverpool FC and Nottingham Forest FC. It was abandoned six minutes into the first half.

The inquiry into the disaster, the Taylor Report, named the cause as failure of police control, and resulted in the conversion of many football stadiums in the United Kingdom to all-seater and the removal of barriers at the front of stands.


RIP

Rest in peace. Sad.

Rest in peace boys. It was a sad day in the city :nonono:

R.i.p

Ynwa

back in about 93 or 94 i went to watch villa away at grimsby in the fa cup. i was involved in a mini crush there (i was only about 9), and that was pretty dam scary. nobody was hurt I dont think but i remember it till this day

hillsborough was a sad day for football, 96 lives is a lot.

RIP

A tragic and sad event. But it does get my goat a bit when people refuse to acknoledge that the Liverpool fans were also responsible for the deaths of many of their own.

A true tragedy. On a related note, I think it is about time UK authorities got rid of the ridiculous idea that stadiums should be all seater. Terraces are successfully incorporated into major German stadiums and it is widely accepted that if these areas are designed, stewarded and policed properly the safety issues are non-existent. Standing areas at football grounds would improve the atmosphere tenfold.

What justice do you expect exactly?

Its 19 years today since the Hillsborough disaster were 96 Liverpool fans lost their lives.

The Hillsborough Disaster was a deadly human crush that occurred on April 15, 1989, at Hillsborough, a football stadium in Sheffield, England resulting in the deaths of 96 people (all fans of Liverpool Football Club).

The match was an FA cup semi-final between Liverpool FC and Nottingham Forest FC. It was abandoned six minutes into the first half.

The inquiry into the disaster, the Taylor Report, named the cause as failure of police control, and resulted in the conversion of many football stadiums in the United Kingdom to all-seater and the removal of barriers at the front of stands.


RIP
Just seen it on the news, can't believe it's been 19 years.
And the Sun (scum Tory shit) Paper printed those sick stories about the fans.
Police to blame so you will never get justice.

R.I.P. A true tragedy.

I don't get the justice thing though.

**** me this aint Diania, get over it son. What justice do you want exactly? Scousers to acknowledge the blame?

:-)

A tragic and sad event. But it does get my goat a bit when people refuse to acknoledge that the Liverpool fans were also responsible for the deaths of many of their own.

Obviously it was them that pushed, but no-one knew what was happening other than the police.

Obviously it was them that pushed, but no-one knew what was happening other than the police.

It was also them who illegally charged into the ground without tickets.

I don't get the justice thing though.

**** me this aint Diania, get over it son. What justice do you want exactly? Scousers to acknowledge the blame?

:-)

I tell you what you ****in prick, 96 innocent people died because the ground staff directed the fans into the wrong stand whilst others were left empty,Liverpool had been allocated the Leppings Lane End of the ground, and it was outside this end from, about 2.30pm that a large crowd of fans had built up. Fans were also delayed on their way to the game by roadworks on the M62 motorway. Warnings issued as far back as 1927 about the need to prevent a large build-up of supporters were ignored, and a sizeable crowd of thousands of Liverpool fans was allowed to build up outside the Leppings Lane End, leading to increasing congestion and then crushing at the front. Stewarding was also described as poor at this end of the ground.
The police later claimed that fans had been drinking excessively.

The Leppings Lane gates led into a concourse: from this, fans could enter a main tunnel that fed into pens three and four of the terrace. Additionally, there were access points to the left and right of the tunnel that led to the other pens on the Leppings Lane terrace. As the sections immediately behind the goal, pens three and four were the most popular and were already full over twenty minutes before kick-off, a fact noticed by BBC commentators in their build-up to the game, and by match commander Chief Superintendent David Duckinfield watching events from the police control box. Meanwhile, the crowd outside continued to build, with little effort made to prevent the numbers outside the gates swelling any further: the crushing outside was becoming progressively worse, police horses were becoming agitated, and 2.47pm, thirteen minutes before kick-off, police officers outside the Leppings Lane End radioed to Duckinfield (in charge of his first major match), informing him that the crushing was becoming severe, and that people were going to die if the gates were not opened to relieve the pressure. After a brief delay, Duckinfield ordered that Gate C be opened, and close on 2,000 Liverpool fans were directed through the gates into the concourse.

By now however, pens three and four were already over-congested; fans streamed into the tunnel, and then into pens three and four, creating a massive crush and trapping supporters at the front of the pens against the steel perimeter fence. Some estimates claim that there were twice the number of supporters in pens three and four than they were designed to cope with. The resultant crush became unbearable, with the fans at the back unable to see that the pens were already full, and the fans at the front already starting to show signs of distress and asphyxiation.

Fans started to try and climb the fences to escape the pens, and some were lifted out of the pens by supporters in the tier above the terrace, but the crushing was becoming fatal as the game kicked off. Fans tried to attract the attention of police officers, but were unable to do so, and later complained that some supporters trying to escape the pens had been pushed back into the crowd by officers who seemed to think they were dealing with an attempted pitch invasion. Other fans reported shouting to police officers to open the gates, but simply being ignored. By 3.05pm, fans managed to alert
Liverpool goalkeeper Bruce Grobbelaar, who in turn pointed out the problem to the referee, as fans were already making their way over the fences before collapsing on the side of the pitch.
The players were taken off at 3.06, and the emergency operation began, with Liverpool fans ripping up advertising hoardings to use as stretchers. It was becoming clear that this was going to be a major disaster, and there was later criticism of police officers who stood in a line across the half-way line,apparently to prevent any "charge" by Liverpool fans against the Forest supporters at the other end of the ground. Other junior officers climbed from pen two into pen three in an effort to help the victims by now piled up everywhere inside the pen, while others desperately tried to pull down the perimeter fence.

The subsequent Taylor report highlighted that the Police were the guilty party yet no officer senior or junior was ever charged in relation to this.

Thats the Justice we desire.

And them that pick-pocketed the dying/dead.
that cant be true surely?!

It was also them who illegally charged into the ground without tickets.

**** off and get your facts straight, were did you get this the Sun?

Read this.

http://www.liv.ac.uk/footballindustry/hborough.html

that cant be true surely?!

Of course not, the Sun newspaper printed this and was successfully sued, it was born out of one fan attempting to get his friends inhaler becuase he was asthmatic.

I don't get the justice thing though.

**** me this aint Diania, get over it son. What justice do you want exactly? Scousers to acknowledge the blame?

:-)

Do me a favour mate PM me a place we can meet anywhere in the UK so we can discuss this further.

And them that pick-pocketed the dying/dead.

Where in Cheshire do you live?

I don't get the justice thing though.

**** me this aint Diania, get over it son. What justice do you want exactly? Scousers to acknowledge the blame?

:-)

It was also them who illegally charged into the ground without tickets.

And them that pick-pocketed the dying/dead.

Un ****ing believable, firstly you cunts need to know your ****in history before you comment secondly, innocent women, children and men died watching a football match you complete ****ing animals.

Its 19 years today since the Hillsborough disaster were 96 Liverpool fans lost their lives.

The Hillsborough Disaster was a deadly human crush that occurred on April 15, 1989, at Hillsborough, a football stadium in Sheffield, England resulting in the deaths of 96 people (all fans of Liverpool Football Club).

The match was an FA cup semi-final between Liverpool FC and Nottingham Forest FC. It was abandoned six minutes into the first half.

The inquiry into the disaster, the Taylor Report, named the cause as failure of police control, and resulted in the conversion of many football stadiums in the United Kingdom to all-seater and the removal of barriers at the front of stands.


RIP


Sad for you Micky and your family.

I don't get the justice thing though.

**** me this aint Diania, get over it son. What justice do you want exactly? Scousers to acknowledge the blame?

:-)

WTF

You ****ing cock, ****in internet hardman are we?

Prick.

It was also them who illegally charged into the ground without tickets.

If that were true, which it isn't (proven Taylor enquiry) then why did the police allow them in? Also why didn't the police stop them (plenty of time) and why didn't they open the gates (plenty of warning)


Cock.

And them that pick-pocketed the dying/dead.

Oh my god you can read 'the Sun newspaper'

Knob.

You forget Heysel, when so called Liverpool fans breached a fence to tear at Juventus fans causing a wall to collapse killing 39?

Then you'd think Liverpool fans learnt about Hillsborough but when it came to Athens a few years ago, the scousers rushed the turnstiles without tickets got through causing those many without tickets locked out of the game.

Then they ask for justice, I feel for the 96 I do, it was a horrible time in football, but the police and the fans did themselves over that day.

You forget Heysel, when so called Liverpool fans breached a fence to tear at Juventus fans causing a wall to collapse killing 39?

Then you'd think Liverpool fans learnt about Hillsborough but when it came to Athens a few years ago, the scousers rushed the turnstiles without tickets got through causing those many without tickets locked out of the game.

Then they ask for justice, I feel for the 96 I do, it was a horrible time in football, but the police and the fans did themselves over that day.

Heysel is completely different, I was there I dont need a lecture from someone who wasn't.

If you have **** all to say then just **** off, Heysel was two sets of fans attacking each other and a wall collapsed (too sad to mention), Hillsborough was terrible organisation and control that led to children being crushed to death.

Anthens was a cluster **** and we have plenty of pricks who call themselves supporters, but its **** all to do with Hillsborough.

WTF

You ****ing cock, ****in internet hardman are we?

Prick.

Right, cunt face I'm going to let you off as the Libertines are a top band.

Me the hardman, look who asked to meet me at any location in the UK to discuss this further?

Pottle calling the kettle black, that.

But you'd think with Hillsborough being so close to home in the minds of many Liverpool fans such as yourself, they'd maybe have 2nd thoughts about turnstile rushing.

I don't get the justice thing though.

**** me this aint Diania, get over it son. What justice do you want exactly? Scousers to acknowledge the blame?

:-)

I apologise for the joke the attempt at some banter, it obviously didn't go down too well. Future warning, :-) = light hearted, joke comment.

I still stand by my point though, what do you hope to achieve with this justice?

Right, cunt face I'm going to let you off as the Libertines are a top band.

Me the hardman, look who asked to meet me at any location in the UK to discuss this further?

Pottle calling the kettle black, that.

Lol, the difference is, he is ****in serious, I know him well and he is a good guy, I'm a big lad who has boxed in the Army and I certainly wouldn't upset the bastard but I suppose from behind a keyboard you can be has hard as you want.

I accept you may have thought it was a joke but some things just are not funny.

As for your justice comment, lets say one of your family members had died due to the incompetence of others would you want some form of justice, especially if the said person was a child?

But you'd think with Hillsborough being so close to home in the minds of many Liverpool fans such as yourself, they'd maybe have 2nd thoughts about turnstile rushing.

Maybe it was a ****in stupid decision, maybe the media blew it up out of all proportion, maybe most just didn't think.

**** all to do with today, **** me I live in Salford but understand that, why dont you?

Really sad day for Liverpool FC and the whole of merseyside. I know Everton fans sing about the Heysel, but the Hilsborough thing is totally different and some of the comments people have made are wrong. R.I.P. to the 96 that lost their lives. I honestly don't think you will get the "Justice" that you are after, which is a shame.

Lol, the difference is, he is ****in serious, I know him well and he is a good guy, I'm a big lad who has boxed in the Army and I certainly wouldn't upset the bastard but I suppose from behind a keyboard you can be has hard as you want.


You really are a toss pot. :-)

Why you being such a spoon to people Likely Lad. It's not appreciated.

Why you being such a spoon to people Likely Lad. It's not appreciated.

Me ??? Read the posts Mickey, its obvious.

Surprised by that comment, thought you were one of good guys in here?

Maybe I should have added yes, he probably is a nice guy, I'm sorry for the ill-educated attempt at banter. I need to adjust to this forum, and think of the consequences before typing.
I mean Mark Speight's family could read this forum. Right that was a joke, still I'm sorry.


I still think you should reread what you just wrote likelylad from a neutral's perspective, and see how much of a div you think that person is Summary: Me and him are hard.

*Note you're probably a nice guy as well.

Did your name originate from the libertines or not?

If you look back you'll see I've deleted the offending comment, and I've apologised to Micky privately.

Maybe I should have added yes, he probably is a nice guy, I'm sorry for the ill-educated attempt at banter. I need to adjust to this forum, and think of the consequences before typing.
I mean Mark Speight's family could read this forum. Right that was a joke, still I'm sorry.


I still think you should reread what you just wrote likelylad from a neutral's perspective, and see how much of a div you think that person is Summary: Me and him are hard.

*Note you're probably a nice guy as well.

Did your name originate from the libertines or not?

Maybe, although that was not my intention. Lets be honest about this, its late and you and others intentionally or not have stirred up a rats nest with this so If I type thoughtlessly its due to emotion not lack of tact.

And yes your guess about my name is correct.

Me ??? Read the posts Mickey, its obvious.

Surprised by that comment, thought you were one of good guys in here?

I am, but mistakes are made. Comments are made light-heartedly without knowing that certain members might have connections to events, people. etc.

I'm sure if they knew, they wouldn't have said it. We all make jokes about shitty things like this - hell, i got good K for making fun of Corrales getting catapaulted off his motorbike from MickeyHatton the other day, so i know he's done it before.

Just everyone stay cool. We're all good lads here.

Well done Pot Noodle. I've made a feeble attempt, I hope he accepts it ('cause I hear he's hard.)

:-)

Joking. Cause I made a few cuntly comments.

Mickey, sorry. There's no way I would say anything to someone about a deeply traumatic/personal event if I knew about it, and how sensitive they were about it.

Doherty is a dick head, I've stopped following him since about 2006. It's great. I think the last thing I purchase was That Beg, Steal and Borrow Ep and it was pretty lame. Heard Delivery, and decided **** Shotters Nation and everything else.

I'm getting confused between Mickey's now.

They're both fridge freezer's though.

Why you being such a spoon to people Likely Lad. It's not appreciated.

Me ??? Read the posts Mickey, its obvious.

Surprised by that comment, thought you were one of good guys in here?

If you look back you'll see I've deleted the offending comment, and I've apologised to Micky privately.

I am, but mistakes are made. Comments are made light-heartedly without knowing that certain members might have connections to events, people. etc.

I'm sure if they knew, they wouldn't have said it. We all make jokes about shitty things like this - hell, i got good K for making fun of Corrales getting catapaulted off his motorbike from MickeyHatton the other day, so i know he's done it before.

Just everyone stay cool. We're all good lads here.

[QUOTE=Nicky_Hatton;3362266]Well done Pot Noodle. I've made a feeble attempt, I hope he accepts it ('cause I hear he's hard.)

:-)

Joking. Cause I made a few cuntly comments.

Guys,

Lets leave it here, its been a long day, Likely_Lad knows me so......

I can take the piss with the best of them but its personal plus there were kids involved, Mickey your comment about Corrales was funny but he was an adult who died from his unfortunate recklessness and I didn't post it on a public board.

I suppose there are unwritten rules and I thought this was one of them or at least a taboo subject hence I posted it on the Limey board, everyone is entitled to an opinion but you must understand there is nothing I do not know about this subject I have lived with it for almost 20 years.

Anyway Pot Noodle, cheers for the apology, Nicky no hard feelings mate.

I'm shattered, later guys.

R.I.P to the 96

Yep, a tragedy. :nonono:

R.I.P to the 96

And RIP to the 39.

An event that seems to get brushed under the carpet too much IMO.

Un ****ing believable, firstly you cunts need to know your ****in history before you comment secondly, innocent women, children and men died watching a football match you complete ****ing animals.


Get your self ****ed off holier than thou.

Not once have I tried to play down the tragic loss of life that occurred. I was simply stating that there were other circumstances which led to the tragedy, alongside the failings of the police. It's called a DISCUSSION. Obviously you aren't very good at them tho.

Not the response I was expecting in this thread.

It is indeed a tragedy, R.I.P.

**** off and get your facts straight, were did you get this the Sun?

Read this.

http://www.liv.ac.uk/footballindustry/hborough.html

Are you saying that all the Liverpool fans in the crowd had tickets? Cos by telling me to **** off for suggesting this tells me that you think they all did, which would make you thick as ****.

Look pal, you start an emotive topic like this on a forum like this, then you have to be able to listen to all sides without telling people to "**** off", or making pathetic veiled threats to meet up with someone in person. Stop acting the internet hardman, it's embarrasing to watch.

At no point have I placed all blame on the scousers, and I acknowledge the police's failings, I was only highlighting one of the contributing factors.

Tough guy.

The only good thing, is that I have a signature. Probably get asked to remove it though.

Are you saying that all the Liverpool fans in the crowd had tickets? Cos by telling me to **** off for suggesting this tells me that you think they all did, which would make you thick as ****.

Look pal, you start an emotive topic like this on a forum like this, then you have to be able to listen to all sides without telling people to "**** off", or making pathetic veiled threats to meet up with someone in person. Stop acting the internet hardman, it's embarrasing to watch.

At no point have I placed all blame on the scousers, and I acknowledge the police's failings, I was only highlighting one of the contributing factors.

Tough guy.

1st point, the fans were absolved of blame during the inquest therefore your point has no bearing becuase had the ground been policed and organised properly then no one would have gotten in when they shouldn't, the facts are that the fans with or without tickets were allowed to 'herd' into the wrong area.

2nd point, this was a memorial thread dedicated to the 96 who died on the 19th Anniversary of their death, I placed it becuase my cousin Tom died aged 14 in this tragedy, it was never supposed to be a point for discussion.

3rd point, the 'threats' you mention have been discussed with the relevant posters and had nothing to do with you, there are regrettable however anyone who 'knows' me on here knows that its not my style however as you said its an emotive subject especially for me therefore its not an excuse but it is a reason.

So whether you think I'm an internet hardman or as thick as **** is irrelevant, I stand by my convictions and still maintain that yours and other posts on here were argumentative and unneeded but thats the price you pay for offering this on an internet forum.

Get your self ****ed off holier than thou.

Not once have I tried to play down the tragic loss of life that occurred. I was simply stating that there were other circumstances which led to the tragedy, alongside the failings of the police. It's called a DISCUSSION. Obviously you aren't very good at them tho.

OK, you should pick your moments better though my friend.

RIP.

My dad went to the game...he couldn't believe nothing was done sooner. He said there was so much comotion from midway first half that the game should have been stopped way before.

Celtic fans displyed this banner at celtic park a few seasons ago JUSTICE FOR THE 96

http://i28.tinypic.com/ffabf4.png

R.i.p........