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mgkirkpatrick
04-09-2008, 04:26 AM
im doing a history of the olympics course and im thinking of doing my paper on the robbery of RJJ at the 88 olympics. any articles on the subject? any thoughts? all help appreciated.

BattlingNelson
04-09-2008, 10:16 AM
im doing a history of the olympics course and im thinking of doing my paper on the robbery of RJJ at the 88 olympics. any articles on the subject? any thoughts? all help appreciated.
At the time there was a lot of talk about corruption. I believe some documentary was made of it later and that it showed the top of AIBA and the judges being treated to the best hotels and getting expensive watches from the Coreans.

And BTW. The decision with RJJ was very bad, but as I recall the semifinal between the corean and an italian (Vicenzo Nardiello or something) was even worse. Nardiello went completely boncus pointing at officials and crying.

reedickyaluss
04-09-2008, 10:28 AM
I do know they did an investigation.. two of the judges were found proven to be wine and dined by officials, and were banned from the sport forever.

Park Si Hun himself admitted to Jones that he lost the bout.

They gave Jones Fighter of the Games, to make up for it... which really doesnt make up for a Gold Medal.

If you watch the fight... Park Si Hun, didnt touch Roy.

TiptonFC
04-09-2008, 11:12 AM
there is a documentary of it on youtube, i watched it the other day

defianetely for me the worst robbery ive ever seen in boxing

mgkirkpatrick
04-10-2008, 12:18 AM
another doco besides the stuff in beyond the glory?

yeah ive got information of park si who didnt win a fight fairly the whole way through the tournament..

ive got a quote from one of the judges saying he thought roy won so clearly he voted for the korean thinking it would be 4-1 and the host nation wouldnt be totally embarassed...

really looking for sources.. if anyone has a link to that doco it'd be much appreciated.

mcentepede
04-10-2008, 03:07 PM
At the time, Some boxing old guy(historian) said that the Roy Jones-Park Si Hun gold medal bout was the "greatest robbery since the great train robbery". I'm surprised the koreans can actually live with themselves after that Olympics which had the most controversies I think. Ben johnson, powerlifters, Flo-Jo (still the fastest woman by the way) and korean boxers. "If you can't beat 'em....cheat 'em"

big paulie
04-10-2008, 05:15 PM
worst decision in the sport of boxing pro or am that ive ever seen, blatantly a political statement

mcentepede
04-11-2008, 03:08 PM
There has to come a point in any fighter's life where he thinks of honor and being a man. The Koreans showed the world that time in 1988 that they have little of either...Politics aside, they accepted all those gold medal controversies without batting an eye. I'm surprised that they didn't re-watch the classic movie "Best of The Best" where they gave Eric Roberts back the gold medals after getting stomped by Tommy Rhee and Roberts, that was Hollywood I know...but it looked good.

mgkirkpatrick
04-14-2008, 12:49 PM
hopefully ill be able to dig up some more information and will post the paper in here in a couple of months if you guys are interested.

titoi
04-14-2008, 02:58 PM
It's not just boxing. Just ask Spain or Italy how much they enjoyed their time at the world cup in S. Korea in 2002... :nonono:

BattlingNelson
04-14-2008, 03:30 PM
hopefully ill be able to dig up some more information and will post the paper in here in a couple of months if you guys are interested.
That would be cool!

Southpaw16BF
10-18-2008, 12:08 AM
Yeah in the end it did come out that the judges were fixed, and a investiagtion was launched. One of the biggest robbires if not the biggest robbery ever in amature boxing.

Kid McCoy
10-18-2008, 01:13 AM
im doing a history of the olympics course and im thinking of doing my paper on the robbery of RJJ at the 88 olympics. any articles on the subject? any thoughts? all help appreciated.

You may want to consider some of the wider circumstances behind what happened to Jones, dating back to the '84 Olympics in Los Angeles. At that Olympics there was a lot of outrage at the apparent pro-American bias of the judges in the boxing competition. Among the most controversial decisions was the one which went to American Jerry Page at the expense of the Korean Kim Dong-Kil, who had appeared to dominate the bout. The Koreans were so aggrieved at that and another decision which one of theirs lost to an American they threatened to withdraw from the boxing tournament altogether.

And it wasn't just the Koreans who were pissed. Henry Tillman, Frank Tate, Mark Breland and Tyrell Biggs all won controversial decisions against foreign fighters at the same Olympics. Howard Cosell called the bias towards Americans in the scoring "embarassing". Several of those decisions saw the American crowd boo their own guys. When Evander Holyfield was harshly DQ'd in his fight, it was viewed in the media as a belated attempt to even things up after all the accusations of bias.

So the Koreans (among others) go home seriously hacked off, and whaddya know, in four years time it's their turn to host the games. So you get what happened to Jones.

Don't get me wrong. What happened to Jones was a disgrace, but people often overlook the wider reasons behind it. Just because Kim Dong-Kil wasn't from the most powerful country on the planet and didn't go on to become one of the most famous boxers on the planet doesn't make what happened to him any less unjust.

riera
10-18-2008, 02:56 PM
Good topic to choose and alot of things you can talk about. Why not do history of olympic boxing