As we speak team Mundine are shitting there panties over the Kessler mandatory and WBA not sanctioning the Soliman fight.

Khoder Nasser, sure this may be disrespectful. But he has stalled Mundines career over the past year and now hes going to run into the guy he wanted to avoid most.

So what are they doing as we speak? There all around a meeting table trying to get on the phone with Winky Wright or Jermain Taylor as soon as possible. Fights with these two will be approved by the WBA and the mandatory will be delayed. Team Mundine are going to have to twinkle a big carrot at Winky or Taylor, a big purse, with Mundine taking next to nothing. Bad management at its best . The question is will Winky or Jermain take it? There gonna have to offer them a $2 million purse bid with Mundine getting a 20-80 split.

Team Mundine have backed themselves into a corner. If he had defended against Bika, Andrade. The WBA would not be putting this pressure on him right now. Well done Team Mundine lol.

Just call me Phil Gould.

:D

The next few days everything will be out in the open.

As we speak team Mundine are shitting there panties over the Kessler mandatory and WBA not sanctioning the Soliman fight.

Khoder Nasser, sure this may be disrespectful. But he has stalled Mundines career over the past year and now hes going to run into the guy he wanted to avoid most.

So what are they doing as we speak? There all around a meeting table trying to get on the phone with Winky Wright or Jermain Taylor as soon as possible. Fights with these two will be approved by the WBA and the mandatory will be delayed. Team Mundine are going to have to twinkle a big carrot at Winky or Taylor, a big purse, with Mundine taking next to nothing. Bad management at its best . The question is will Winky or Jermain take it? There gonna have to offer them a $2 million purse bid with Mundine getting a 20-80 split.

Team Mundine have backed themselves into a corner. If he had defended against Bika, Andrade. The WBA would not be putting this pressure on him right now. Well done Team Mundine lol.

Winky and Jermain are biggers stars by far and they won't do it, even though Winky needs to stop cryin about price and fight somebody while Taylor needs to come back from 2 losses. Mundine's not a bad fighter but **** him for handpicking all this weak opposition and not fightin better fighters. Looks like Kessler's gonna get dibs on his hide so let's hope Mikkel beats him again.

Mikkel Kessler is hungry, and Mundine is running scared.

Kessler is gonna beat his ass again, this time with a better back and give him a bad bad beating.

couldnt this have all gone into the same thread about the same thing?

Mikkel Kessler is hungry, and Mundine is running scared.

Kessler is gonna beat his ass again, this time with a better back and give him a bad bad beating.

Man Kessler is never going to fight again injury free.

He had a broken hand against Calzaghe.

A bad back against Mundine.

A broken toe nail against Beyer.

I can't believe you fall for this shit lol.

Man Kessler is never going to fight again injury free.

He had a broken hand against Calzaghe.

A bad back against Mundine.

A broken toe nail against Beyer.

I can't believe you fall for this shit lol.

I can't believe you believe all this Mundine Bullshit.

I AWTA, Ult, I just can't ever follow where you stand on Mundine, you backflip and chop and change every ten minutes. I find it incredibly hard to take anything you say seriously.

I can't believe you believe all this Mundine Bullshit.

What lol, its Kessler?

I AWTA, Ult, I just can't ever follow where you stand on Mundine, you backflip and chop and change every ten minutes. I find it incredibly hard to take anything you say seriously.

I just say it how it is.

I want this fight to go ahead. If there is someone here who doesn't, then the jokes on them.

Its not like the guys got a choice. No more beating around the bush with these argie cabbies. He has to face his mandatory or a massive name to get out of it. Its very good for aussie boxing. I can't see how im blowing this up?

Its not like the guys got a choice. No more beating around the bush with these argie cabbies. He has to face his mandatory or a massive name to get out of it. Its very good for aussie boxing. I can't see how im blowing this up?

Mundine will find a way out of fighting someone decent you watch, he's done it his whole ****in' career with the exception of Kessler.

Mundine will fight Kessler i have no doubt.

Compare Mundine first 30 fights against Kesslers you will see who has fought bums. It only take s a decent win or two and everyone is on the bandwagon :nonono:

if mundine beats kessler ill give him his props. but ill never be completley on the bandwagon.. lets not forget i was a big mundine man.. but after neivas, clavero, hamdan and than signing for soliman again.. i just cant respect him fully

Mundine will fight Kessler i have no doubt.

Compare Mundine first 30 fights against Kesslers you will see who has fought bums. It only take s a decent win or two and everyone is on the bandwagon :nonono:

So what are you saying their careers are going in the opposite direction. Kessler started off fighting bums and is now fighting World champions, Mundine started fighting off World champions and is now fighting bums :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:.

Anyway its irrelevant because Mundine is a fair bit older than Kessler. He was young enough to have lots of fights to GAIN EXPERIENCE, like most boxers do. Unfortunately for Mundine, he didn't have age on his side because of his rugby career. But maybe he paid for the price by losing his 3 biggest fights. But how can anyone tell if he has improved, if he is now fighting these bums he should of fougt before fighting the likes of Kessler, has his career gone backwards?.

So what are you saying their careers are going in the opposite direction. Kessler started off fighting bums and is now fighting World champions, Mundine started fighting off World champions and is now fighting bums :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:.

Exactly what i am saying. Kessler chewed on bums for a long time and in the space of a short time rose to a level that fans drool over him. For a long period Joe was seen as Joke Calzaghe then wallah he's the man for flogging Lacy and a legend for beating Kessler.

My pt is that Mundine only needs one or 2 good Vs on his record to make ppl forget about the intermediate fights.

Exactly what i am saying. Kessler chewed on bums for a long time and in the space of a short time rose to a level that fans drool over him. For a long period Joe was seen as Joke Calzaghe then wallah he's the man for flogging Lacy and a legend for beating Kessler.

My pt is that Mundine only needs one or 2 good Vs on his record to make ppl forget about the intermediate fights.


To be fair i think its a lot different to the Calzaghe situation and Kessler. Calzaghe has been a champion for nearly 11 years now, he has fought a few taxi drivers, but has still fought numerous champions and is still undefeated. Kessler was a champion for 3 years and fought quite a few champions as well and unified the division. The point is there has been desire from Calzaghe to take on the biggest fights while he can at this stage. But well Mundine is still shifting thousands of tickets and fighting farces on PPV, he doesn't seem to have the desire to take on the best. Mundine doesn't want it imo, because the best to in the division are head and shoulders above the rest, and then there is Bute is a very dangerous fight, or guys like Miranda who can take your head off with one shot. If Mundine loses that paper belt, he has nothing to stand on in terms of boxing, it is essentially his only bargaining chip.

To be fair i think its a lot different to the Calzaghe situation and Kessler. Calzaghe has been a champion for nearly 11 years now, he has fought a few taxi drivers, but has still fought numerous champions and is still undefeated. Kessler was a champion for 3 years and fought quite a few champions as well and unified the division. The point is there has been desire from Calzaghe to take on the biggest fights while he can at this stage. But well Mundine is still shifting thousands of tickets and fighting farces on PPV, he doesn't seem to have the desire to take on the best. Mundine doesn't want it imo, because the best to in the division are head and shoulders above the rest, and then there is Bute is a very dangerous fight, or guys like Miranda who can take your head off with one shot. If Mundine loses that paper belt, he has nothing to stand on in terms of boxing, it is essentially his only bargaining chip.

That was a really good post. I agree 100%. Mundine just doesn't have it in him.

To be fair i think its a lot different to the Calzaghe situation and Kessler. Calzaghe has been a champion for nearly 11 years now, he has fought a few taxi drivers, but has still fought numerous champions and is still undefeated. Kessler was a champion for 3 years and fought quite a few champions as well and unified the division. The point is there has been desire from Calzaghe to take on the biggest fights while he can at this stage. But well Mundine is still shifting thousands of tickets and fighting farces on PPV, he doesn't seem to have the desire to take on the best. Mundine doesn't want it imo, because the best to in the division are head and shoulders above the rest, and then there is Bute is a very dangerous fight, or guys like Miranda who can take your head off with one shot. If Mundine loses that paper belt, he has nothing to stand on in terms of boxing, it is essentially his only bargaining chip.

yea good point.

Strong indication is that the rematch will be around late Oct.

Great to see :banana:

good to hear. kessler will need a keep busy fight.. pity we still have to see the soliman circus

Strong indication is that the rematch will be around late Oct.

Great to see :banana:

The fight against Soliman will likely be Mundines last fight as a SMW.

From what im hearing there trying to get a title fight at MW. Sturm probably comes into the picture.

Im just waiting for an announcement.

I hope this fight goes ahead also!!! The 1st fight was awesome and showed how easy choc would beat that chump danny green!!! Mundine is much better then he was last time they jumped in the ring and so is kessler which will make for an even better fight then the 1st!!!

I hope this fight goes ahead also!!! The 1st fight was awesome and showed how easy choc would beat that chump danny green!!! Mundine is much better then he was last time they jumped in the ring and so is kessler which will make for an even better fight then the 1st!!!

Right now i can't see this fight going ahead.

Mundine drops down to MW to avoid him.

Just be patient. Should be an announcement soon.

But the good thing is if he does drop down to MW. He is going to have to fight a big name to keep his legitimacy in tact.

He's never had any legitimacy, made Green come down to him, suited mundine perfectly. Then he fights janitors, cabbies and even a dog washer, I hope he fights someone who will beat him or test him, otherwise he will lose the fans who actually still have some respect for him and aren't just fat cunts at the pub shouting "kill him choc".

So he's going to run to MW so the WBA doesn't make him fight someone who hase a chance in hell of beating him?
The really funny thing is whenever he's on camera he gives us the old I'm number 1 catch cry.

I'm afraid he isn't fooling us anymore in fact he hasn't for ages.

He's never had any legitimacy, made Green come down to him, suited mundine perfectly. Then he fights janitors, cabbies and even a dog washer, I hope he fights someone who will beat him or test him, otherwise he will lose the fans who actually still have some respect for him and aren't just fat cunts at the pub shouting "kill him choc".

Green was always a SMW so don't start with that.

He's never had any legitimacy, made Green come down to him, suited mundine perfectly. Then he fights janitors, cabbies and even a dog washer, I hope he fights someone who will beat him or test him, otherwise he will lose the fans who actually still have some respect for him and aren't just fat cunts at the pub shouting "kill him choc".

Are you saying that choc made green drop weight from his normal weight division SMW to SMW!!!

Green got his arse beat then made up bullshit about not making weight!!! Your a bigger ****wit then i thought if you fell for that old one!!!

As for the fat cunts yelling shit that was you cock boy!!!

That argument makes me laugh.

As for Mundine at MW.

If he brings his speed and power down with him, what do you think he is capable of?

i dont think he can bring them down with him. i heard he was as low as 2% bodyfat for one of his smw fights. that's outright dangerous. he's going to have to lose muscle and come in weight drained.

That argument makes me laugh.

As for Mundine at MW.

If he brings his speed and power down with him, what do you think he is capable of?

**** all because the pussy cunt wouldn't fight anyone with a heart beat above lightweight.

Are you saying that choc made green drop weight from his normal weight division SMW to SMW!!!

Green got his arse beat then made up bullshit about not making weight!!! Your a bigger ****wit then i thought if you fell for that old one!!!

As for the fat cunts yelling shit that was you cock boy!!!
when did Green make up anything?

I've only ever heard him say Choc was the better man that night.

And yes he must have been making it up about having weight issues, considering he never fought another bout at SMW ever again huh?

**** all because the pussy cunt wouldn't fight anyone with a heart beat above lightweight.

As you would know. Going down a weight division gives you a lot of confidence.

Are you saying that choc made green drop weight from his normal weight division SMW to SMW!!!

Green got his arse beat then made up bullshit about not making weight!!! Your a bigger ****wit then i thought if you fell for that old one!!!

As for the fat cunts yelling shit that was you cock boy!!!

He never competed at SMW again, he was defently having trouble making weight.

How about removing your lips from around choc's cock then, maybe you wont have to leave !!! points after every ****ing sentence then.

If you respect him for fighting people not close to his skill level well then you'd be one of those fat cunts talking about what world class opposition he fights. Hey I got an idea for his next bout, why not just go down the the train station and just try beat up a transit guard? I'm sure that would be good to watch on CCTV.

As you would know. Going down a weight division gives you a lot of confidence.

Mundine isn't fighting anyone. Give up on Mundine.

He never competed at SMW again, he was defently having trouble making weight.

How about removing your lips from around choc's cock then, maybe you wont have to leave !!! points after every ****ing sentence then.

If you respect him for fighting people not close to his skill level well then you'd be one of those fat cunts talking about what world class opposition he fights. Hey I got an idea for his next bout, why not just go down the the train station and just try beat up a transit guard? I'm sure that would be good to watch on CCTV.

They could fight at Heavyweight, Danny still would have lost. They could fight at featherweight, it would have been the same result.

Stop living a dream. The skill difference between both fighters was major. If you coulnd't see that, maybe this post is a waste.

Mundine isn't fighting anyone. Give up on Mundine.

Im probably more focused on Calzaghe at the moment.

What are ur thoughts on Margarito?

They could fight at Heavyweight, Danny still would have lost. They could fight at featherweight, it would have been the same result.

Stop living a dream. The skill difference between both fighters was major. If you coulnd't see that, maybe this post is a waste.

I agree, I thought he had a chance going in, but after the first 2 rounds it was pretty evident that he didn't. Green seemed past his prime at that point , but was never a skillful boxer in the first place.

But at least green chased big names, Mundine waited until green had no chance of beating him before he fought him. And now he's going to try to avoid kessler because he would get murdered.

I agree, I thought he had a chance going in, but after the first 2 rounds it was pretty evident that he didn't. Green seemed past his prime at that point , but was never a skillful boxer in the first place.

But at least green chased big names, Mundine waited until green had no chance of beating him before he fought him. And now he's going to try to avoid kessler because he would get murdered.

Green didn't take any chances in that fight against Mundine. Green fought just as many bums as Mundine has and continues to fight.

I agree, I thought he had a chance going in, but after the first 2 rounds it was pretty evident that he didn't. Green seemed past his prime at that point , but was never a skillful boxer in the first place.

But at least green chased big names, Mundine waited until green had no chance of beating him before he fought him. And now he's going to try to avoid kessler because he would get murdered.

Just wait on man. Im sure by the time the guy retires he would have made up for it.

Hes dodged Kessler right, thats obvious.

But the only reason he would have done this is for a title fight at MW. There is nothing at SMW other than risks and European fighters who bring nothing in regards to fighting in the US. Just hold the phone on this one.

Mundine is a confident person. He has suffered from to much and to little throughout his career. The Soliman fight even though its a joke, is about getting more rounds in before the bigger fights.

If Mundine fought Danny and Kessler, 2 guys he was a raging outsider against, he will take on the best at MW. Knowing that hes gone 12 with Kessler, will keep him in a good mental place, because i can't see him being stopped by any MW.

And if his power and speed move down with him, he will be a handful. He will pick off Sturm and Abraham all night. Pavlik, well i think he could do it.

Just hold the phone on this, and wait for an announcement on his next fight. The way i see it, could be Winky, Abraham or Sturm. There is nothing else that Mundine will realistically get, or that interests him in the MW division other than these 3, at this stage.

(Brently will say keep living the dream. Its not really a dream. As with any elite athlete there comes a time of inevitability in there careers, and for Mundine after Soliman, his time has come).

Green didn't take any chances in that fight against Mundine. Green fought just as many bums as Mundine has and continues to fight.

Pavlik fights Lockett, than Antonio.

?

Is that not the same thing?

Just wait on man. Im sure by the time the guy retires he would have made up for it.

Hes dodged Kessler right, thats obvious.

But the only reason he would have done this is for a title fight at MW. There is nothing at SMW other than risks and European fighters who bring nothing in regards to fighting in the US. Just hold the phone on this one.

Mundine is a confident person. He has suffered from to much and to little throughout his career. The Soliman fight even though its a joke, is about getting more rounds in before the bigger fights.

If Mundine fought Danny and Kessler, 2 guys he was a raging outsider against, he will take on the best at MW. Knowing that hes gone 12 with Kessler, will keep him in a good mental place, because i can't see him being stopped by any MW.

And if his power and speed move down with him, he will be a handful. He will pick off Sturm and Abraham all night. Pavlik, well i think he could do it.

Just hold the phone on this, and wait for an announcement on his next fight. The way i see it, could be Winky, Abraham or Sturm. There is nothing else that Mundine will realistically get, or that interests him in the MW division other than these 3, at this stage.

(Brently will say keep living the dream. Its not really a dream. As with any elite athlete there comes a time of inevitability in there careers, and for Mundine after Soliman, his time has come).

Wake up to yourself.

Wake up to yourself.

Your such a hypocrit. There is nothing to wake up to here. Sure fighting Nievas, Clavero and Hamden is bad. But everyone is doing it. Look at Bute. Look at Pavlik. Look at Sturm, Look at Abraham.

This is the dark side of our sport. Every champion is making money fighting lesser opponents most of the time. Sure Mundine is doing that now, but do you honestly think that hes not going to step it up, because from a financial point of view and ability point of view that is total nonsense.

Who are you kidding though Brently? When he announces Winky or Sturm, in his next fight, your gonna still hate him. Saying its to late, hes gonna get knocked out.

Your such a hypocrit. There is nothing to wake up to here. Sure fighting Nievas, Clavero and Hamden is bad. But everyone is doing it. Look at Bute. Look at Pavlik. Look at Sturm, Look at Abraham.

This is the dark side of our sport. Every champion is making money fighting lesser opponents most of the time. Sure Mundine is doing that now, but do you honestly think that hes not going to step it up, because from a financial point of view and ability point of view that is total nonsense.

Who are you kidding though Brently? When he announces Winky or Sturm, in his next fight, your gonna still hate him. Saying its to late, hes gonna get knocked out.
The difference here is Pavlik just had two hard fights and fought Miranda before Taylor, he deserves a couple of easy paydays before he looks for another tough fight.

Lets look at Mundine's last 3 opponents:

Hamden
Clavero
Nievas

All ****ing shit.

At least the other guys fight good guys in between, Mundine just keeps fighting absolute garbage and I agree with Brently you need to wake up to yourself, he is not looking to fight anyone good soon.

When he announces Winky or Sturm? He can't afford Winky and would have to go to Germany to face Sturm. Seriously, it aint happening.

The difference here is Pavlik just had two hard fights and fought Miranda before Taylor, he deserves a couple of easy paydays before he looks for another tough fight.

Lets look at Mundine's last 3 opponents:

Hamden
Clavero
Nievas

All ****ing shit.

At least the other guys fight good guys in between, Mundine just keeps fighting absolute garbage and I agree with Brently you need to wake up to yourself, he is not looking to fight anyone good soon.

When he announces Winky or Sturm? He can't afford Winky and would have to go to Germany to face Sturm. Seriously, it aint happening.

Does your logic make sense?

Your taking no notice of Pavliks easy 2 fights. And your bagging Mundines 3 fights. ? Pavliks easy 2 fights are back to back, Lockett than Antonio.

Mundine doesn't have the money? Are you kidding?

Why go to Germany to fight Sturm? He will fight in the USA. Abraham is the same.

Just wait for an announcement.

Until then you guys can keep hating. But if your gonna go by fact, hes our best fighter.

It seems to me you guys are ignoring the major problem which is right through the sport and blaming it on 1 fighter.

The logic also is pretty terrible. Sure its okay to be pissed at his last 3 fights and Soliman. But he will eventually step it up?

Why is he getting up early every morning to run at Darling Harbour?

Why is he training every day?

Why is he eating healthy?

Answer: He has ambitions. He will leave it late. but he will definetely step it up. And if you think he couldn't beat the top MW's, than i think its hate thats blinding you more than anything.


Also if your wondering how this fight happens? Its pretty simple. Winky vs Mundine to be the mandatory to Abraham. Don't shock yourself to think Winky will wait until next year to fight again, because Pavlik sure as hell aint going near him.

the announcement of mundine going to middleweight has been on espn btw

i see what you're saying ultimate.. everyone takes easy fights from time to time.. i think the lads understand that..

but when it goes KO9 over soliman..

then neivas.. then clavero.. then hamdan.. then he signs for soliman again..

well no one is going to write that off as tune ups.. or getting in ring time.. it's just too much.

i know you honestly believe he's going to make everything right with his stint at MW but you have to admit that it's more than fair for others to be ultra skeptical.

have faith in your belief mate but for now you're just going to have to wait to be proven right before people jump back on the bandwagon .. maybe in 12months time you'll be saying i told you so. ;)

the announcement of mundine going to middleweight has been on espn btw

i see what you're saying ultimate.. everyone takes easy fights from time to time.. i think the lads understand that..

but when it goes KO9 over soliman..

then neivas.. then clavero.. then hamdan.. then he signs for soliman again..

well no one is going to write that off as tune ups.. or getting in ring time.. it's just too much.

i know you honestly believe he's going to make everything right with his stint at MW but you have to admit that it's more than fair for others to be ultra skeptical.

have faith in your belief mate but for now you're just going to have to wait to be proven right before people jump back on the bandwagon .. maybe in 12months time you'll be saying i told you so. ;)

Sure mate, everyone has every right to be skeptical.

I just have a belief at the end of Mundines career, we won't have any complaints.

He may leave it late, but he will step it up.

Sure mate, everyone has every right to be skeptical.

I just have a belief at the end of Mundines career, we won't have any complaints.

He may leave it late, but he will step it up.

Next week you'll be off the band wagon and complaining about the guy.

Next week you'll be off the band wagon and complaining about the guy.

No im just over talking about it. The guy brought boxing back onto the papers. And all we do is bag the guy out.

No im just over talking about it. The guy brought boxing back onto the papers. And all we do is bag the guy out.

For all the wrong reasons. He's done nothing for Aussie Boxing except put on Terrible circus like undercards on PPV.

He could have done a lot for the fight game, but is just self serving.

For all the wrong reasons. He's done nothing for Aussie Boxing except put on Terrible circus like undercards on PPV.

He could have done a lot for the fight game, but is just self serving.

Like i said before. You could say that.

But without him, boxing in this country would be no where near where it was today.

Green would never have made PPV's.

Katsidis would have never had a short clip on the news.

Like i said before. You could say that.

But without him, boxing in this country would be no where near where it was today.

Green would never have made PPV's.

Katsidis would have never had a short clip on the news.

That's not true at all. Any Aussie fighting for a world Title gets a clip on the news, especially if it's been on US TV.

Kostya was still fighting until 05, you have no idea on what your talking about.

Green did make a lot of money of Mundines name, that i'll give you.

Does your logic make sense?

Your taking no notice of Pavliks easy 2 fights. And your bagging Mundines 3 fights. ? Pavliks easy 2 fights are back to back, Lockett than Antonio.

Mundine doesn't have the money? Are you kidding?

Why go to Germany to fight Sturm? He will fight in the USA. Abraham is the same.

Just wait for an announcement.

Until then you guys can keep hating. But if your gonna go by fact, hes our best fighter.
My logic makes sense if you read my whole post and not parts of it.

Pavlik has had hards fights, so he can take an easy couple of paydays before he takes another hard fight, he is fighting good guys in between shit guys. But he is actually fighting the good guys.

Mundine is fighting shit guys all the time, no hard fights at all.

That is the difference.

I'd put Sturm & Abraham in the same boat as Mundine, that much we can agree on. But we aren't German, we are Aussies, so we give a **** about what Aussie fighters do.

If Sturm and Abraham want to fight bums in Germany forever then I don't give a shit. Mundine on the other hand is supposed to representing Australia so I do care when he fights scrubs constantly.

My logic makes sense if you read my whole post and not parts of it.

Pavlik has had hards fights, so he can take an easy couple of paydays before he takes another hard fight, he is fighting good guys in between shit guys. But he is actually fighting the good guys.

Mundine is fighting shit guys all the time, no hard fights at all.

That is the difference.

I'd put Sturm & Abraham in the same boat as Mundine, that much we can agree on. But we aren't German, we are Aussies, so we give a **** about what Aussie fighters do.

If Sturm and Abraham want to fight bums in Germany forever then I don't give a shit. Mundine on the other hand is supposed to representing Australia so I do care when he fights scrubs constantly.


I agree 100% with this post. Who gives a shit what Sturm etc do.

Pavlik fights on a totally different level of Competition than Mundine.

Kelly has proven himself on the world Scene. Mundine hasn't even come close.

That's not true at all. Any Aussie fighting for a world Title gets a clip on the news, especially if it's been on US TV.

Kostya was still fighting until 05, you have no idea on what your talking about.

Green did make a lot of money of Mundines name, that i'll give you.

Katsidis was a little boy on Mundines undercards.

My logic makes sense if you read my whole post and not parts of it.

Pavlik has had hards fights, so he can take an easy couple of paydays before he takes another hard fight, he is fighting good guys in between shit guys. But he is actually fighting the good guys.

Mundine is fighting shit guys all the time, no hard fights at all.

That is the difference.

I'd put Sturm & Abraham in the same boat as Mundine, that much we can agree on. But we aren't German, we are Aussies, so we give a **** about what Aussie fighters do.

If Sturm and Abraham want to fight bums in Germany forever then I don't give a shit. Mundine on the other hand is supposed to representing Australia so I do care when he fights scrubs constantly.

Like i said. Its fine to bag him now. I have no problem with that. But when he does step it up, win or lose, than don't bag him.

My logic makes sense if you read my whole post and not parts of it.

Pavlik has had hards fights, so he can take an easy couple of paydays before he takes another hard fight, he is fighting good guys in between shit guys. But he is actually fighting the good guys.

Mundine is fighting shit guys all the time, no hard fights at all.

That is the difference.

I'd put Sturm & Abraham in the same boat as Mundine, that much we can agree on. But we aren't German, we are Aussies, so we give a **** about what Aussie fighters do.

If Sturm and Abraham want to fight bums in Germany forever then I don't give a shit. Mundine on the other hand is supposed to representing Australia so I do care when he fights scrubs constantly.


I think i may have responded twice to the same post.

But you can see my logic that he will eventually step it up right? Any fighter has ambitions. Surely hes not satisfied training hard for a fight he knows he can enter the ring at 60% and still win, Hamden, Soliman, Nievas etc.

He will eventually up his level of competition.

Katsidis was a little boy on Mundines undercards.

meaning what exactly? :thinking:

Exactly, everyone has to start on someone undercard. I will wait for his next fight to call judgement. Although I hope he has to fight kessler.

meaning what exactly? :thinking:

He may not be where he is now, without fighting on those undercards.

Katsidis was a little boy on Mundines undercards.

That's 3 years ago and Kats didn't get paid for that fight, Michael said that after the fight. I was there.

I think i may have responded twice to the same post.

But you can see my logic that he will eventually step it up right? Any fighter has ambitions. Surely hes not satisfied training hard for a fight he knows he can enter the ring at 60% and still win, Hamden, Soliman, Nievas etc.

He will eventually up his level of competition.

He better hurry the **** up because he's not aging backwards.

Mundine isn't an innate fighter like Katsidis etc. Which pushes them to fight better fighters and take risks in the ring.

The only risk Mundine has ever taken is Kessler and Mundine didn't push that fight because he knew he was in with a real fighter.

Even Jeff Fenech had the innate fighter and that showed in his fights. Jeff Harding had it and with good boxing ability.

Mundine has all the boxing ability in the world, but he lacks the innate fighter.

I think i may have responded twice to the same post.

But you can see my logic that he will eventually step it up right? Any fighter has ambitions. Surely hes not satisfied training hard for a fight he knows he can enter the ring at 60% and still win, Hamden, Soliman, Nievas etc.

He will eventually up his level of competition.
I can see what you are saying, I just can't support him until i see him across the ring against someone decent, this garbage has gone on for too long.

If he does eventually fight someone good I'll be behind him 100% and am pretty sure every Aussie that posts here will be as well.

He may not be where he is now, without fighting on those undercards.

Kats is where he is now because he comes to fight and puts himself on the line.
It gave him some exposure locally but that's it. Climbing the WBO rankings got Michael at title shot against Earl and that got him exposure overseas.

I can see what you are saying, I just can't support him until i see him across the ring against someone decent, this garbage has gone on for too long.

If he does eventually fight someone good I'll be behind him 100% and am pretty sure every Aussie that posts here will be as well.

I agree with you here. If he starts fighting guys with a heart beat I'd give him all the credit in the world, until that day comes defending the guy is simply unjustified, because the circus has gone on for too ****ing long. Robbing the Australian Public with these appalling PPV's.
If anything Mundines level of opposition has declined over the last couple of years since Kessler.

Kats is where he is now because he comes to fight and puts himself on the line.
It gave him some exposure locally but that's it. Climbing the WBO rankings got Michael at title shot against Earl and that got him exposure overseas.

exactly. what katsidis has achieved can in no way be attributed to anything mundine's done. :nono:

I agree with you here. If he starts fighting guys with a heart beat I'd give him all the credit in the world, until that day comes defending the guy is simply unjustified, because the circus has gone on for too ****ing long. Robbing the Australian Public with these appalling PPV's.
If anything Mundines level of opposition has declined over the last couple of years since Kessler.

Mundines PPVs are a joke. But who are we kidding. We have to pay $40 for Calz- Hops, $40 for Cintron-Marg, and they were free to air in the US. correct me if im wrong. Its not just him taking out money. Main event does it with every card.

exactly. what katsidis has achieved can in no way be attributed to anything mundine's done. :nono:

Thank you MG. If Mundine had the same desire has Kats, Mundine would be a different story.
Katsidis has only be on the world scene for just over a year. After beating Earl he could have fought some bum in Qld but chased after bigger things in the USA.

Mundine could have had big fights by now, be he doesn't want them clearly.

If he ever steps it up he'll tell us all he was passed his prime, you watch.

Mundines PPVs are a joke. But who are we kidding. We have to pay $40 for Calz- Hops, $40 for Cintron-Marg, and they were free to air in the US. correct me if im wrong. Its not just him taking out money. Main event does it with every card.


Both fights are free in the states. I'd rather they **** off those Fox Sports cards and put that money toward having Free Live fights from the states.

Because Fox would have to pay something to our local promoters and then it wouldn't be all that cheap setting up an outside broadcast.

I agree with you there, I'm sure Mundine doesn't really say if it's going to be a PPV or not, it's Fox Sports being greedy cunts as usual.

His last two fights should have been on Fox Sports, but Main Event will milk the public for every ****ing cent.

Both fights are free in the states. I'd rather they **** off those Fox Sports cards and put that money toward having Free Live fights from the states.

Because Fox would have to pay something to our local promoters and then it wouldn't be all that cheap setting up an outside broadcast.

I agree with you there, I'm sure Mundine doesn't really say if it's going to be a PPV or not, it's Fox Sports being greedy cunts as usual.

His last two fights should have been on Fox Sports, but Main Event will milk the public for every ****ing cent.

Its past a joke. I think i spent around $600 on PPV's last year. Im pretty sure this is a lot more than anyone else in the States is paying to see these fighters.

Im not to sure who are the bigger jokes, the promoters putting there name to Bika fighting a guy with 18 losses, and the undercard mismatches, or fox sports themselves. Both are totally unprofessional.

Its past a joke. I think i spent around $600 on PPV's last year. Im pretty sure this is a lot more than anyone else in the States is paying to see these fighters.

Im not to sure who are the bigger jokes, the promoters putting there name to Bika fighting a guy with 18 losses, and the undercard mismatches, or fox sports themselves. Both are totally unprofessional.

Shit $600.00 on PPV, that's ****ed up. I only got DLH vs Mayweather, Morales vs Diaz, Mosley vs Cotto, Pac vs Barrera & Hatton vs Mayweather.

I wouldn't buy a Mundine or Green PPV, simply because there not worth the money.

I usually only get PPV if their PPV in the states just on principal.

Its past a joke. I think i spent around $600 on PPV's last year. Im pretty sure this is a lot more than anyone else in the States is paying to see these fighters.

Im not to sure who are the bigger jokes, the promoters putting there name to Bika fighting a guy with 18 losses, and the undercard mismatches, or fox sports themselves. Both are totally unprofessional.
Did you know Bika's last opponent has a win over Jose Clavero?

Did you know Bika's last opponent has a win over Jose Clavero?

9 out of 10 fighters on this board could beat Clavero.

Did you know Bika's last opponent has a win over Jose Clavero?

Not exactly something to shout out from the rooftops about.

HE BOASTS of never having dieted before a fight, but Anthony Mundine will have to replace the hamburgers with health shakes for his planned drop to the middleweight ranks.

The WBA super-middleweight champion fights Sam Soliman for the third time next month, and has been ordered to defend his title against Mikkel Kessler three months later.

However, Mundine is contemplating a move down to the middleweight division where American stars Kelly Pavlik, Winky Wright and Jermain Taylor make for tantalising big-money fights. Mundine needs exposure to the American audience in order to further his appeal and pulling power; one of those names on his list of victims would make Mundine a genuine global star.

"I've never had to diet for a fight, I love my fried chicken and my hamburgers too much," Mundine, 32, said. "But you look at the top guys I have fought in the super-middleweight division: Mikkel Kessler was much bigger than me, Danny Green was much bigger than me, Manny Siaca was much bigger than me.

"[Roy Jones snr] believes I will be a monster down in middleweight. I believe I will be faster, I will be lighter, I will hold my strength, my power down there, and I'll be a lot more dangerous. And the fighters I will be fighting won't be as big."

The super-middleweight division is dominated by Europeans, with Welshman Joe Calzaghe the undisputed ruler of the class - although he could forfeit three belts if he defeats Bernard Hopkins in a light-heavyweight contest this weekend. While Mundine would ideally love a shot at Calzaghe, he admits the obscurity of his name in American boxing circles puts him down the pecking order on the champion's wish list.

"[The WBA] mandated Kessler to fight me after Soliman, so we have to look at that and see whether it is a financially viable and good business choice to fight, or do we go to middleweight and look for a big opportunity," Mundine said.

He returned to Sydney on Tuesday from a month-long training sojourn in the United States with Roy Jones jnr and his father, Roy Jones snr. Yesterday, he gave boxing tips to Home and Away actor, Mark Furze, in his Redfern gym as part of the National Careers Development Week campaign (ncdw.com.au). While he is excited by the prospect of becoming a multi-division champion, Mundine said he was not overlooking his May 28 bout against Soliman in Melbourne.

"I want to bring an axe to a mosquito. I will win, that's in no doubt. It's just a matter of how I win. I want to be destructive, I want to be as dominant as I can."

Meanwhile, Nader Hamdan has followed Danny Green into retirement, weeks before a scheduled bout against British light-heavyweight Gareth Hogg.

A shoulder injury played a role in his decision, although Hamdan, 34, said no future bout would be able to match the intensity and emotional reward of his failed world title bid against Mundine in February, in front of thousands of cheering home fans.

"I know I will never be able to top the emotional high from my fight against Mundine. All I ever wanted was a title shot, and I finally got it," he said. "I can sleep happy knowing that was my last fight and I gave it my all."

This thread is ****ing brilliant, love ULT's opinions on Mundine. Normally starts every day optimistic, and then at the end all optimism is gone :lol1:, only to be optimistic again the next day.

This thread is ****ing brilliant, love ULT's opinions on Mundine. Normally starts every day optimistic, and then at the end all optimism is gone :lol1:, only to be optimistic again the next day.
:D :D :D

So true.

Well at least Mundine has an excuse when he gets KO or beaten down at Middleweight, he can just say he was weight drained.

You da Man.

Well at least Mundine has an excuse when he gets KO or beaten down at Middleweight, he can just say he was weight drained.

You da Man.

Do you think someone at MW could KO him? I mean if hes gone 12 with Kessler. I think Pavlik could, but only if Mundine fights stupidly.

Apart from that, this could be a successful move if he can make the weight. His first goal should be Sturm, but i doubt he will get that. So hes probably going to be left with trying to call out Winky for a fight.

The sad thing is he may find a new breed of Argentinians at MW. But i doubt it very much. I think he will make his move. Fingers cross.

Waiting for an announcement.

lol aslong as he stays away from ottkes return and all his power.....

Do you think someone at MW could KO him? I mean if hes gone 12 with Kessler. I think Pavlik could, but only if Mundine fights stupidly.

Apart from that, this could be a successful move if he can make the weight. His first goal should be Sturm, but i doubt he will get that. So hes probably going to be left with trying to call out Winky for a fight.

The sad thing is he may find a new breed of Argentinians at MW. But i doubt it very much. I think he will make his move. Fingers cross.

Waiting for an announcement.

He didn't mix it up with Kessler in that fight as much as he thinks he did. Mundine was way too cautious in that fight to get the nod from the judges. Guys like Pavlik don't die wondering they'll throw punches with intent.

He didn't mix it up with Kessler in that fight as much as he thinks he did. Mundine was way too cautious in that fight to get the nod from the judges. Guys like Pavlik don't die wondering they'll throw punches with intent.

Pavlik will throw them for sure. Thats why he is entertaining.

Heres my logic : Mundine won't likely fight the best but this is how they would go at MW.

Sturm : Complete destruction. Mundine would TKO this guy within 8. Power difference would be massive. Hes a completely better fighter. Sturm has looked bad for a while now.

Abraham: a wide loopy puncher. Choc is an accurate counter puncher. Could win a UD if he stays around from King Arthurs bombs.

Pavlik : It depends. I can see Pavlik stopping him though. In the late rounds.

Anyway im just waiting for an announcement.

Pavlik will throw them for sure. Thats why he is entertaining.

Heres my logic : Mundine won't likely fight the best but this is how they would go at MW.

Sturm : Complete destruction. Mundine would TKO this guy within 8. Power difference would be massive. Hes a completely better fighter. Sturm has looked bad for a while now.

Abraham: a wide loopy puncher. Choc is an accurate counter puncher. Could win a UD if he stays around from King Arthurs bombs.

Pavlik : It depends. I can see Pavlik stopping him though. In the late rounds.

Anyway im just waiting for an announcement.

I hope your not hanging by the neck waiting for it.

I hope your not hanging by the neck waiting for it.

Nah.

Im just getting excited about Sundays fight. Joe C all the way.

Nah.

Im just getting excited about Sundays fight. Joe C all the way.

I hope he beats one of the most boring fighters of all time and shuts hopkins the **** up.

I hope he beats one of the most boring fighters of all time and shuts hopkins the **** up.

Same. Im actually thinking he stops him. A big class difference were going to see here.

yeh. hopkins "white boy" jibe has no place in boxing. all boxers are putting their courage on the line no matter what their colour. i hate missmatches no matter what nationality is fighting. but i hope hopkins gets his arse kicked in a missmatch that wasnt supposed to be.

yeh. hopkins "white boy" jibe has no place in boxing. all boxers are putting their courage on the line no matter what their colour. i hate missmatches no matter what nationality is fighting. but i hope hopkins gets his arse kicked in a missmatch that wasnt supposed to be.

Agree. Im sick of the holding.

Joe C is full of action however.

yeh. hopkins "white boy" jibe has no place in boxing. all boxers are putting their courage on the line no matter what their colour. i hate missmatches no matter what nationality is fighting. but i hope hopkins gets his arse kicked in a missmatch that wasnt supposed to be.

I agree with you. Hopkins is a racist cunt. Who will tell us all after he's tried to put as all to sleep during the fight that it was just to help sell the fight.

No offence - but this fight was always going to be a snooze fest. I can't stand watching either of them. Regardless of their records I just find their fights boring. I'm not dissing either of them, they just aren't my cuppa tea as far as action goes. The fact that there both about 90 not out, says a lot about the quality of fighters coming through too.

No offence - but this fight was always going to be a snooze fest. I can't stand watching either of them. Regardless of their records I just find their fights boring. I'm not dissing either of them, they just aren't my cuppa tea as far as action goes. The fact that there both about 90 not out, says a lot about the quality of fighters coming through too.

i should have listened to you mate. not much of a fight. their styles certainly never complemented eachother. glad joe got the win. one for the "white boys" eh, bernard...?

No offence - but this fight was always going to be a snooze fest. I can't stand watching either of them. Regardless of their records I just find their fights boring. I'm not dissing either of them, they just aren't my cuppa tea as far as action goes. The fact that there both about 90 not out, says a lot about the quality of fighters coming through too.

Kessler vs Calzageh was highly entertaining.

Kessler vs Calzageh was highly entertaining.

I beg to differ mate. I thought it failed to live up to the hype big time.

I beg to differ mate. I thought it failed to live up to the hype big time.

Well it was probably the best SMW fight of the last 5 years.

No offence - but this fight was always going to be a snooze fest. I can't stand watching either of them. Regardless of their records I just find their fights boring. I'm not dissing either of them, they just aren't my cuppa tea as far as action goes. The fact that there both about 90 not out, says a lot about the quality of fighters coming through too.

I agree with you 100% that's why I couldn't even be bothered ordering it, Hopkins is the most boring high profile fighter out there. I'm stoked he didn't get the nod.

Kessler vs Calzageh was highly entertaining.

yea i agree with u , it was very entertaining, unlike today's fight, complete snooze fest, all thanks to hopkins,
calzaghe is interesting to watch, unlike hopkins

In today undercard Audley Harrison was fighting. And the fight was like a sparring session. Some guy from the crowd screamed out "Are you guys friends?".

LMAO when it happened.

Well it was probably the best SMW fight of the last 5 years.

What about Mundine vs Ellis???

Well it was probably the best SMW fight of the last 5 years.

Well the division is in real trouble then.

Well the division is in real trouble then.

I agree if that was the case, but I thought the Biaka fight in the contender final was pretty entertaining.

What about Mundine vs Ellis???

Not seen this fight what happened?.

Not seen this fight what happened?.

Mundine knocked out an amateur. :D

I agree if that was the case, but I thought the Biaka fight in the contender final was pretty entertaining.

Probably because there was good commentary and atmosphere. When Kessler or Mundine fight they get rediculous commentors. Even the fight on the weekend had shitty commentators.

I would love to see Phil Gould commentating. :D

Does anyone know what Mundine is doing at the moment. There is a guy called "ajay" from ESB who claims hes like his manager lol.

Im just confused. The guy is having his best years right now. Instead of testing his metal hes barely training and eating hamburgers because he knows he can beat Soliman at 20%.

I can't believe you believe all this Mundine Bullshit.


You mean the 'I got blind from a dirty contact lens but can still fight'?

Not seen this fight what happened?.

mundine had a great win over a former world champion..

unfortunately he was a world champion at junior lightweight.. and hadnt fought in a decade.. and was an alcoholic who was half cut on the night..

no disrespect to ellis though.. he was a good champion in his day and he's been through alot.

Not seen this fight what happened?.

Ellis got hit like once and decided the didn't want to fighting anymore.

Ellis got hit like once and decided the didn't want to fighting anymore.

What about Shannon Taylor vs Choc for his debut at middleweight? Anyone?

Khoder Nasser will want this. :D

or... our very own koolwillie?

although he did win his first fight on a knockout so maybe mundine will stear clear.

or... our very own koolwillie?

although he did win his first fight on a knockout so maybe mundine will stear clear.

Yeh. Hes an unknown quantity. But then again Choc, is willing to fight guys like that. E.G Nievas. So he might get his chance.

But that knockout surely would stop Choc from sleeping well.

if mundine does go down in weight he will definately fight some1 like shannon taylor or jamie pittman first. Or some1 like daniel geale/dawson. He wont go for a big name because he has prooven over and over again his only interested in fighting over here against limited competition. Seriously... besides kessler he has never fought ANY1 world class.

And trust me, the more his stupid head flaps the less likely he is going overseas, i dont care how many times he says he will. I trust mundines word about as much as i trust city rails train timetable.

if mundine does go down in weight he will definately fight some1 like shannon taylor or jamie pittman first. Or some1 like daniel geale/dawson. He wont go for a big name because he has prooven over and over again his only interested in fighting over here against limited competition. Seriously... besides kessler he has never fought ANY1 world class.

And trust me, the more his stupid head flaps the less likely he is going overseas, i dont care how many times he says he will. I trust mundines word about as much as i trust city rails train timetable.

Couldn't agree more. Infesta sums it up here.

mundine had a great win over a former world champion..

unfortunately he was a world champion at junior lightweight.. and hadnt fought in a decade.. and was an alcoholic who was half cut on the night..

no disrespect to ellis though.. he was a good champion in his day and he's been through alot.

Ellis got hit like once and decided the didn't want to fighting anymore.


:lol1: :lol1: :lol1: LMAO, i take it this fella was no Roy Jones then.

if mundine does go down in weight he will definately fight some1 like shannon taylor or jamie pittman first. Or some1 like daniel geale/dawson.
Dawson or Geale? I really don't think Mundine could make the weight if he amputated a leg at this point.

if mundine does go down in weight he will definately fight some1 like shannon taylor or jamie pittman first. Or some1 like daniel geale/dawson. He wont go for a big name because he has prooven over and over again his only interested in fighting over here against limited competition. Seriously... besides kessler he has never fought ANY1 world class.

And trust me, the more his stupid head flaps the less likely he is going overseas, i dont care how many times he says he will. I trust mundines word about as much as i trust city rails train timetable.

Spot on. I think that's exactly what will happen.

if mundine does go down in weight he will definately fight some1 like shannon taylor or jamie pittman first. Or some1 like daniel geale/dawson. He wont go for a big name because he has prooven over and over again his only interested in fighting over here against limited competition. Seriously... besides kessler he has never fought ANY1 world class.

And trust me, the more his stupid head flaps the less likely he is going overseas, i dont care how many times he says he will. I trust mundines word about as much as i trust city rails train timetable.

Dawson or Geale? I really don't think Mundine could make the weight if he amputated a leg at this point.

yep yep agree with both of those :fing02:

if mundine does go down in weight he will definately fight some1 like shannon taylor or jamie pittman first. Or some1 like daniel geale/dawson. He wont go for a big name because he has prooven over and over again his only interested in fighting over here against limited competition. Seriously... besides kessler he has never fought ANY1 world class.

And trust me, the more his stupid head flaps the less likely he is going overseas, i dont care how many times he says he will. I trust mundines word about as much as i trust city rails train timetable.

ahahhahaha. soo true

ahahhahaha. soo true

Its pretty sad , hes lost the respect of his closest fans.

But as i have said.

Wait for it. By the end of his career i think we will be very happy with who he has fought.

All hyperthetical but my views, none the less.

Its pretty sad , hes lost the respect of his closest fans.

But as i have said.

Wait for it. By the end of his career i think we will be very happy with who he has fought.

All hyperthetical but my views, none the less.


lol. yea it is pretty sad. ive lost a lot of respect for him, but hey, i still love seeing him fight. but i have basically given up hope that he will fight a good fighter when he's in his prime. i know he'll eventually fight an other good figher, but by then like u said, it'll probably be at the end of his career, which would be pointless.

in sayin this, ill still support him, but also see him as a joke at the same time.

Mundine is a Joke and by the end of his Career he would have proven that by not fighting decent fighters.

Mundine is a Joke and by the end of his Career he would have proven that by not fighting decent fighters.

I really hope not.

Even though logic says your right and my banner is ludicrous.

But for Aussie boxings sake im going to continue living the dream. Because Calzaghe aint fighting again till November damm it.

:D

His next fight will make or break him (My eyes- Fans). If he names a big name, like all these twats in his camp are saying, then fine im on the bandwagon and so are a lot of others. If he doesn't , he goes with Taylor, Geale or Dawson. Then its time we view him for what he is currently in boxing. "A heart the size of a peanut".

Deep down, im pretty much convinced he lures Winky somehow.

I really hope not.

Even though logic says your right and my banner is ludicrous.

But for Aussie boxings sake im going to continue living the dream. Because Calzaghe aint fighting again till November damm it.

:D

His next fight will make or break him (My eyes- Fans). If he names a big name, like all these twats in his camp are saying, then fine im on the bandwagon and so are a lot of others. If he doesn't , he goes with Taylor, Geale or Dawson. Then its time we view him for what he is currently in boxing. "A heart the size of a peanut".

Deep down, im pretty much convinced he lures Winky somehow.

Mundine has done nothing helpful with Aussie boxing with the exception of milking it for every cent.

Mundine has done nothing helpful with Aussie boxing with the exception of milking it for every cent.

True, Briggs and Katsidis have done more than both Mundine and Green ever had.

Green did a lot for boxing in perth, getting fights here which we would have never gotten otherwise.

Green did a lot for boxing in perth, getting fights here which we would have never gotten otherwise.

Delisle? Sean Sullivan?

hahahaah nice banner. LMAO

Just any fights in perth, we never get anything here, so it is a welcomed change.

haha thanks, quite skilled at making them ;)

Just any fights in perth, we never get anything here, so it is a welcomed change.

haha thanks, quite skilled at making them ;)

Could you make us one with Mundine having a cab uniform on, driving a cab lol.

?

I will give you 10 000 points.

How the hell can Australians support people like Mundine bewilders me! This guy disrepects Australians by choosing not to come into the ring with the Australian flag! He insults everybody that was affected by 9/11 with derogatory comments that America brought this upon themselves and made that pathetic song insulting Australians and burning the flag.

The only way Mundine can get attention is by making a fool of himself. If you or any of your representatives read this Anthony you and your crew are not welcome to Melbourne for your meaningless fight with Soliman. I remember your comments about Melbourne at SolimanII presser and wasn't impressed. Look at the slums where you came from! Redfern pbbbffffttttt!

I wish your father would slap you around and try and knock some sense into your head Choc. I do have respect for Tony Snr who I reckon shakes his head behind the scenes with Mundine's moronic lunacy.

Mundane 'Out'!

How the hell can Australians support people like Mundine bewilders me! This guy disrepects Australians by choosing not to come into the ring with the Australian flag! He insults everybody that was affected by 9/11 with derogatory comments that America brought this upon themselves and made that pathetic song insulting Australians and burning the flag.

The only way Mundine can get attention is by making a fool of himself. If you or any of your representatives read this Anthony you and your crew are not welcome to Melbourne for your meaningless fight with Soliman. I remember your comments about Melbourne at SolimanII presser and wasn't impressed. Look at the slums where you came from! Redfern pbbbffffttttt!

I wish your father would slap you around and try and knock some sense into your head Choc. I do have respect for Tony Snr who I reckon shakes his head behind the scenes with Mundine's moronic lunacy.

Mundane 'Out'!

I think we can say you were previously a Mundine fan. But now your not. Kind of like whats happening to me. Im giving him one chance to name someone decent. Or he will never get mentioned in my boxing blog, forum, from me ever again.

The guy seriously needs to step it up.

I struggle to see how he can train so hard, fighting easy beats, knowing he won't be pushed. Maybe he is just seriously really dumb!

How the hell can Australians support people like Mundine bewilders me! This guy disrepects Australians by choosing not to come into the ring with the Australian flag! He insults everybody that was affected by 9/11 with derogatory comments that America brought this upon themselves and made that pathetic song insulting Australians and burning the flag.

The only way Mundine can get attention is by making a fool of himself. If you or any of your representatives read this Anthony you and your crew are not welcome to Melbourne for your meaningless fight with Soliman. I remember your comments about Melbourne at SolimanII presser and wasn't impressed. Look at the slums where you came from! Redfern pbbbffffttttt!

I wish your father would slap you around and try and knock some sense into your head Choc. I do have respect for Tony Snr who I reckon shakes his head behind the scenes with Mundine's moronic lunacy.

Mundane 'Out'!

Seconded, well written.

How the hell can Australians support people like Mundine bewilders me! This guy disrepects Australians by choosing not to come into the ring with the Australian flag! He insults everybody that was affected by 9/11 with derogatory comments that America brought this upon themselves and made that pathetic song insulting Australians and burning the flag.

The only way Mundine can get attention is by making a fool of himself. If you or any of your representatives read this Anthony you and your crew are not welcome to Melbourne for your meaningless fight with Soliman. I remember your comments about Melbourne at SolimanII presser and wasn't impressed. Look at the slums where you came from! Redfern pbbbffffttttt!

I wish your father would slap you around and try and knock some sense into your head Choc. I do have respect for Tony Snr who I reckon shakes his head behind the scenes with Mundine's moronic lunacy.

Mundane 'Out'!


Good Post.
I agree with this, except Anthony wasn't brought up in Redfern. His fathers earnings as a fighter got them out of Redfern, Anthony grew up down south way.
He was in the same class as a friend of mine.

Anthony has never done it tough like he claims.

Good Post.
I agree with this, except Anthony wasn't brought up in Redfern. His fathers earnings as a fighter got them out of Redfern, Anthony grew up down south way.
He was in the same class as a friend of mine.

Anthony has never done it tough like he claims.

This explains why he supports South Sydney Rabbitohs who haven't won a game yet! Same as Mundine who's record shows he hasn't won a 'Real' fight either. Cab drivers excluded!

I think we can say you were previously a Mundine fan. But now your not. Kind of like whats happening to me. Im giving him one chance to name someone decent. Or he will never get mentioned in my boxing blog, forum, from me ever again.

The guy seriously needs to step it up.

I struggle to see how he can train so hard, fighting easy beats, knowing he won't be pushed. Maybe he is just seriously really dumb!

Mundine got offside with me after Echols fight in 2003. In 5 years he's fought ONE World rated fighter in Kessler (Green was a shell of man compared to his prime 2003/2004) who was injured and bought his World Title to defend against Anthony in 2005 and soundly outpointed Choc.

Mundine Cabby should have taken another big fight after Echols fight and who knows how good Mundine would have been had he jumped straight back into the frying pan fight after fight??? He's not an active champion like the old school fighters.

Todays World champs like Pavlik, Calzaghe, Mayweather etc only fight twice a year! WTF is that??? All the champions should be fighting at least every second week to a month. You've forgotten these guys even exist then you see them fighting for or defending their world title.

Choc is one of the worst paper champs in the history of the sport fighting bum cabbies and fighting twice a year. How do you expect to learn your craft and become seasoned/hardened when you're not an active champion???

This is why I'm very happy to watch DVDs of the Old School warriors fight real fights instead of chumps like Cab-dine fighting nurses and firefighters until he's 40.

nice posts brunswick. to be fair though green was #5 on the ring mag list of SMWs and almost even money to win

Mundine got offside with me after Echols fight in 2003. In 5 years he's fought ONE World rated fighter in Kessler (Green was a shell of man compared to his prime 2003/2004) who was injured and bought his World Title to defend against Anthony in 2005 and soundly outpointed Choc.

Mundine Cabby should have taken another big fight after Echols fight and who knows how good Mundine would have been had he jumped straight back into the frying pan fight after fight??? He's not an active champion like the old school fighters.

Todays World champs like Pavlik, Calzaghe, Mayweather etc only fight twice a year! WTF is that??? All the champions should be fighting at least every second week to a month. You've forgotten these guys even exist then you see them fighting for or defending their world title.

Choc is one of the worst paper champs in the history of the sport fighting bum cabbies and fighting twice a year. How do you expect to learn your craft and become seasoned/hardened when you're not an active champion???

This is why I'm very happy to watch DVDs of the Old School warriors fight real fights instead of chumps like Cab-dine fighting nurses and firefighters until he's 40.

If fighters fought that much, they'd be lucky if they could still talk at the end of their careers. I agree twice a year is too little but what you've stated is way too much.

WTF the **** Ult has a pic in his Avatar slagging Mundine and in his sig he's telling us he's going to be the greatest Middleweight of all time. Strange if you ask me.

WTF the **** Ult has a pic in his Avatar slagging Mundine and in his sig he's telling us he's going to be the greatest Middleweight of all time. Strange if you ask me.

Fence sitter, he's got all his bases covered.

Fence sitter, he's got all his bases covered.

LOL. Like i said im waiting for the announcement of his next fight.

If he names some cabby. Wait until you see the ones i am getting ready. Coutesy of Salty the banner maker lol.

haha well for my sake i hope he fights another retard, as I can't make pro mundine banners, too difficult haha

Mundine can be great but i think he has no heart, you notice when the big fights come he folds, he doesnt unload enough he keeps backing up when kessler fought him he was like a puncing bag, he never hit back enough... having said that there where some really good signs in that fight that might help team mundine's game plan if he was too fight kessler again

Mundine can be great but i think he has no heart, you notice when the big fights come he folds, he doesnt unload enough he keeps backing up when kessler fought him he was like a puncing bag, he never hit back enough... having said that there where some really good signs in that fight that might help team mundine's game plan if he was too fight kessler again

That's pretty much true. Good to have you back on board, nice to see you made it back from the Perth trip in one piece. LOL.

If fighters fought that much, they'd be lucky if they could still talk at the end of their careers. I agree twice a year is too little but what you've stated is way too much.

Dude! These guys are professionals so all they do is train everyday and fight. They should be fighting minimum twice a month. Current World Champs having non title defence fight is virtually non existent these days, hence todays World champs making their two mandatory defences each year.

There aren't too many day fighters who boast records such as Julio Cesar Chavez 107 fights; Marco Antonio Barrera 70 fights; James Toney 70 fights; Marvin Hagler 67 fights and Thomas Hearns 67fights.

Dude! These guys are professionals so all they do is train everyday and fight. They should be fighting minimum twice a month. Current World Champs having non title defence fight is virtually non existent these days, hence todays World champs making their two mandatory defences each year.

There aren't too many day fighters who boast records such as Julio Cesar Chavez 107 fights; Marco Antonio Barrera 70 fights; James Toney 70 fights; Marvin Hagler 67 fights and Thomas Hearns 67fights.

Your on the right track, but your stats are right off.

I think 4 times a year, the standard rate. Maximum and minimum. Fighters have to fight this much. But if your Tyson and winning Ko's 1st round, then 10 times a year is fine.

To much head contact, our fighters will end up being vegetables.

Dude! These guys are professionals so all they do is train everyday and fight. They should be fighting minimum twice a month. Current World Champs having non title defence fight is virtually non existent these days, hence todays World champs making their two mandatory defences each year.

There aren't too many day fighters who boast records such as Julio Cesar Chavez 107 fights; Marco Antonio Barrera 70 fights; James Toney 70 fights; Marvin Hagler 67 fights and Thomas Hearns 67fights.

That would be great if they didn't want to be able to remember their names. Dude your living in the past.

Dude! These guys are professionals so all they do is train everyday and fight. They should be fighting minimum twice a month. Current World Champs having non title defence fight is virtually non existent these days, hence todays World champs making their two mandatory defences each year.

There aren't too many day fighters who boast records such as Julio Cesar Chavez 107 fights; Marco Antonio Barrera 70 fights; James Toney 70 fights; Marvin Hagler 67 fights and Thomas Hearns 67fights.

LOL Morales hears bells ringing in his head now.

Thats not healthy.

I do think though all fighters must fight 2 months after there previous fight if they win by TKO/KO in the first 3 rounds. And 3 months after if they win by decision.

4 fights a year is not crazy. I would be happy with that.

That would be great if they didn't want to be able to remember their names. Dude your living in the past.

Is two fights a month really excessive??? Pros have thrice daily workouts so why couldn't they handle a couple of fights a month??? Harry Greb had in excess of 300 fights and lost only 8. Greb was fighting weekly at some point excluding bar-room brawls! Moore had 240 odd fights.

One thing is certain dude, they don't make them like they used to! New School fighters don't have longevity like the old timers!!!

How old did these "old timers" live to be and at what mental capacity filled their final years? These guys aren't here to make you happy champ, they are out there to make a living and enjoy life, not to fight every seconds week and have the ends of their lives riddled with brain trauma injuries.

Is two fights a month really excessive??? Pros have thrice daily workouts so why couldn't they handle a couple of fights a month??? Harry Greb had in excess of 300 fights and lost only 8. Greb was fighting weekly at some point excluding bar-room brawls! Moore had 240 odd fights.

One thing is certain dude, they don't make them like they used to! New School fighters don't have longevity like the old timers!!!

the old school fighters used to die alot sooner so it didn't matter, they'd be dead before the brain damage caught up to them, harry greb was seriously ****ed up by the time he was 32, almost blind, his body was in such bad shape he went to the hospital for minor surgery and died. look at gatti, he's like the old school guys and his face looks beat up, he's punchy, or frazier, by the time smokin joe was 34 years old he was half blind, shot, slurs his speech, etc.

there has to be a balance.. obviously 24 times a year just wont happen in this day and age.. but its pretty ****ing frustrating only getting to watch your fighter twice a year or three is he's particularly active.

think it shits the boxers a bit too..

yeah two a year is way too little, i think we all agree on that

How old did these "old timers" live to be and at what mental capacity filled their final years? These guys aren't here to make you happy champ, they are out there to make a living and enjoy life, not to fight every seconds week and have the ends of their lives riddled with brain trauma injuries.

Exactly. I think the Pros should fight 3 to 4 times a year.

haha i shake my head when i look at how many views this thread has

I view it everyday, tis like the bloody Jerry Springer Show, quality stuff!!!.

How old did these "old timers" live to be and at what mental capacity filled their final years? These guys aren't here to make you happy champ, they are out there to make a living and enjoy life, not to fight every seconds week and have the ends of their lives riddled with brain trauma injuries.

Dude! It's not about making me happy, it's about seeing the best fighting out there. The top dogs in each division should be fighting each other all the time and not making meaningless defences against lowly opposition. A World Champion defending twice a year is just ridiculous!

Todays World Champs seem to be spending 70% of their time doing pressers and other media commitments instead of fighting. Joe Louis defended his Heavyweight Title every month for a couple of years straight once he won it. Todays Heavies should take a leaf out of Louis' book and not defend their every month because that won't happen with TV etc. But at least defend at least every two months.

I AWTA, Ult, I just can't ever follow where you stand on Mundine, you backflip and chop and change every ten minutes. I find it incredibly hard to take anything you say seriously.

you owe me points, and you seem to be avoiding me.

Exactly. I think the Pros should fight 3 to 4 times a year.

4 times a year should be set rate for champions. World title holders. For those who win there last fight they should be expected to fight within 3 months or loose there title.

Anything under than 4 times is not enough. Anything over it is to much.

I mean Calzaghe has a fkn 2 month holiday after every fight. Maybe 2 weeks is good enough for a holiday.

The fact is, maybe these guys don't love the sport at all. They are just doing it for the money.

I view it everyday, tis like the bloody Jerry Springer Show, quality stuff!!!.

Good to read your PM.

Yeh its sick as.

there has to be a balance.. obviously 24 times a year just wont happen in this day and age.. but its pretty ****ing frustrating only getting to watch your fighter twice a year or three is he's particularly active.

think it shits the boxers a bit too..

If they fight 24 times a year. Mayweather and Calzaghe will be in worse shape than Dulog within 12 months.

Dude! It's not about making me happy, it's about seeing the best fighting out there. The top dogs in each division should be fighting each other all the time and not making meaningless defences against lowly opposition. A World Champion defending twice a year is just ridiculous!

Todays World Champs seem to be spending 70% of their time doing pressers and other media commitments instead of fighting. Joe Louis defended his Heavyweight Title every month for a couple of years straight once he won it. Todays Heavies should take a leaf out of Louis' book and not defend their every month because that won't happen with TV etc. But at least defend at least every two months.

Gotta get with the times dude. That's old school that your talking about, the fight game is different these days, commissions wouldn't let them fight that frequently for good reason.

Look at Mickey Ward after those wars with Gatti, he's paying for it now.

Gotta get with the times dude. That's old school that your talking about, the fight game is different these days, commissions wouldn't let them fight that frequently for good reason.

Look at Mickey Ward after those wars with Gatti, he's paying for it now.

So i think we all agree on 4 fights a year?

Only for champions (well those who have won there last fight have to fight again within 3 months, barring medical exemption for cuts or something else)

Leading to 4 times a year.

So i think we all agree on 4 fights a year?

Only for champions (well those who have won there last fight have to fight again within 3 months, barring medical exemption for cuts or something else)

Leading to 4 times a year.

I agree. i'd even take 3 fights. Fighting every two weeks is just a ****in' stupid idea for many reasons.

Interesting developments on Mundine-Kessler 2.

Which are? But seriously who cares about Mundine, I just want to have confirmed reports of Zelenoff v Hartley and a youtube vid

Which are? But seriously who cares about Mundine, I just want to have confirmed reports of Zelenoff v Hartley and a youtube vid

I agree, I couldn't care less what Mundine does anymore, the window is shut for him.

you owe me points, and you seem to be avoiding me.

I hadn't been on here for a solid 3 weeks, plus it's not as if we ever actually conversed.

I agree, I couldn't care less what Mundine does anymore, the window is shut for him.

Yeh Probably but i just want to keep the thread going.

Zelenoff lost, couldn't believe he could have gotten beaten by that retard, if anyones interested in the vid here it is...

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Zelenoff lost, couldn't believe he could have gotten beaten by that retard, if anyones interested in the vid here it is...

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LOL how embarassing was that fight.

Do any of the fighters post on this forum?

Zelenoff used to, don't know if he does anymore he was shithouse...

Don't know why that link didn't work, but im off to training so i'll fix it when i get back

Interesting developments on Mundine-Kessler 2.

That's a 'killer' of a Mundine pic Ulti! LOL Mundine organised that 'Cab' rally which also doubled as his Melbourne press conference for fight with Soliman! Those cabbies next to him have been his main sparring partners.

Is his fight with Soliman still on???, i heard the WBA refused to sanction it.

Is his fight with Soliman still on???, i heard the WBA refused to sanction it.

It sure is still on:

http://www.mainevent.com.au/event.asp?id=483

Whats weirder is that Kesslers management came out today to say hes fighting for the title WBA on June 21st.

They must have some knowledge that Mundine has signed to fight someone at MW already. Otherwise the title simply wouldn't be vacant by then.

Good news, but weird news. Because the fights in Denmark so it simply won't be Choc.

Whats weirder is that Kesslers management came out today to say hes fighting for the title WBA on June 21st.

They must have some knowledge that Mundine has signed to fight someone at MW already. Otherwise the title simply wouldn't be vacant by then.

Good news, but weird news. Because the fights in Denmark so it simply won't be Choc.

Keep Dreaming Ult. Mundine would only fight some bum at middle even if he drops down to Middle weight.

And remember the WBA have a few different versions of each belt, Super & Regular. LOL.

Keep Dreaming Ult. Mundine would only fight some bum at middle even if he drops down to Middle weight.

And remember the WBA have a few different versions of each belt, Super & Regular. LOL.

LOL, even if he does drop down, if he manages to find the middleweight version of Clavero it will be very funny.

Just wait on man. Im sure by the time the guy retires he would have made up for it.

Hes dodged Kessler right, thats obvious.

But the only reason he would have done this is for a title fight at MW. There is nothing at SMW other than risks and European fighters who bring nothing in regards to fighting in the US. Just hold the phone on this one.

Mundine is a confident person. He has suffered from to much and to little throughout his career. The Soliman fight even though its a joke, is about getting more rounds in before the bigger fights.

If Mundine fought Danny and Kessler, 2 guys he was a raging outsider against, he will take on the best at MW. Knowing that hes gone 12 with Kessler, will keep him in a good mental place, because i can't see him being stopped by any MW.

And if his power and speed move down with him, he will be a handful. He will pick off Sturm and Abraham all night. Pavlik, well i think he could do it.

Just hold the phone on this, and wait for an announcement on his next fight. The way i see it, could be Winky, Abraham or Sturm. There is nothing else that Mundine will realistically get, or that interests him in the MW division other than these 3, at this stage.

(Brently will say keep living the dream. Its not really a dream. As with any elite athlete there comes a time of inevitability in there careers, and for Mundine after Soliman, his time has come).

Great post mate...are you an Aussie???
I think you are right for sure he would be good at middleweight...how many kg would he have to lose though like 3 or 4?! can you see him doing it? I mean the guys so lean as it is.
He needs to step up though for sure or just retire...im getting sick of it now...I dont resent the guy for fighting boring journeymen but nows the time to step up or step off.

Great post mate...are you an Aussie???
I think you are right for sure he would be good at middleweight...how many kg would he have to lose though like 3 or 4?! can you see him doing it? I mean the guys so lean as it is.
He needs to step up though for sure or just retire...im getting sick of it now...I dont resent the guy for fighting boring journeymen but nows the time to step up or step off.

Well he eats hamburgers each. I can't see a problem with him making the weight.

As i have said, hes got all the ability you need to be successful at MW. Handspeed, power, good defence. Im 100% sure he could stop Sturm, he could score a wide UD over Abrahams loopy punches. And if he fights the right game plan he can beat Pavlik.

But the problem is, this guy isn't hungry. Hes all talk, and he won't walk the walk. Most likely he will fight Shannon Taylor. Mundine sounds dumb when he talks and by looking at his career decisions he is also dumb in person. In saying that it seems his manager just wants as much money as possible.

Wasting everyones time.

What about Shannon Taylor vs Choc for his debut at middleweight? Anyone?

Khoder Nasser will want this. :D

Taylor is a joke...mundine would KO him within a few rounds or if Taylor was lucky a UD.

Taylor is a joke...mundine would KO him within a few rounds or if Taylor was lucky a UD.

Doubt it. Mundine hasn't fought this level of competition since Kessler.

Mundine vs Sturm is on paper now.

Time to drop these display pictures and avatars!

Really? is this signed?

Mundine vs Sturm is on paper now.

Time to drop these display pictures and avatars!

That's still a dud fight, Sturm is a feather fisted fighter.

What about this big name you've talking about???

That's still a dud fight, Sturm is a feather fisted fighter.

What about this big name you've talking about???

Come on mate. Be happy now.

Mundine is going to stop Sturm. Its in Germany.

Then what happens? He gets an immediate shot at Abraham. Even with just beating Sturm he can lure in Pavlik

This is big news, and its great.

Really? is this signed?

Yep. Known through a journalist friend.

Take it to the bank.

August. In Germany (don't worry about judges, Mundine will choose them, he has more pull over the WBA), he will choose ref aswell.

Come on mate. Be happy now.

Mundine is going to stop Sturm. Its in Germany.

Then what happens? He gets an immediate shot at Abraham. Even with just beating Sturm he can lure in Pavlik

This is big news, and its great.

Just because he can doesn't mean he will, and thats assuming he wins. After training with all his friends in the melbourne rally the other week a hit from a pro might hurt him no matter who it is.

Just because he can doesn't mean he will, and thats assuming he wins. After training with all his friends in the melbourne rally the other week a hit from a pro might hurt him no matter who it is.

LOL, not to sure why he and his friends were taking there shirts off in winter lol. Totally agree.

Come on mate. Be happy now.

Mundine is going to stop Sturm. Its in Germany.

Then what happens? He gets an immediate shot at Abraham. Even with just beating Sturm he can lure in Pavlik

This is big news, and its great.

Your crack addiction is really effecting your way of thinking.

I think Sturm wins this one.

Your crack addiction is really effecting your way of thinking.

I think Sturm wins this one.

From what? He has been poor in his last 5 fights.

Hes technically correct. But his speed or power isn't the same as choc's.

It will be close going into it, but i can see him being stopped. Especially if Castellejo could do it.

P.S you just said he was feather fisted and not a big name. And then you said he should win. Contradiction.

Doubt it. Mundine hasn't fought this level of competition since Kessler.

Thats Shannon Taylor...not Jermain wiseguy lol

Mundine vs Sturm is on paper now.

Time to drop these display pictures and avatars!

no shit????!!!
for real man...how did you find out???...what title does strum hold again???

no shit????!!!
for real man...how did you find out???...what title does strum hold again???

WBA MW. August. Germany.

Its not the same guy that told me shit before. This guy is a journo and he reckons its pretty safe.

I dropped the sig pic.

Cheers

What are you thoughts on him dropping down a division from a division that is currently hot to one that is currently not?. Don't see Mundine fighting Pavlik at all, after that the only other guy is Abraham.

What are you thoughts on him dropping down a division from a division that is currently hot to one that is currently not?. Don't see Mundine fighting Pa