Obviously Kessler is favourite.

But if Choc turns up, who is willing to let his hands go at every possible time. Hes willing to get hit and respond by hitting out. If he is more aggressive and lifts his work rate?

Could he? Could he pull it off?

And what would that mean for Australian boxing? Would we say Kessler was damaged goods after Joe C?

All hyperthetical but please answer.

Obviously Kessler is favourite.

But if Choc turns up, who is willing to let his hands go at every possible time. Hes willing to get hit and respond by hitting out. If he is more aggressive and lifts his work rate?

Could he? Could he pull it off?

And what would that mean for Australian boxing? Would we say Kessler was damaged goods after Joe C?

All hyperthetical but please answer.

Firstly it isn't in Mundine's nature to take risks in fights, that's not an innate characteristic which Mundine possess.

Kessler isn't Damaged goods, for ****'s sake that's almost a stupid thing to say, Kessler wasn't hurt in that fight it wasn't like he was in Gatti vs Ward I,II & III.
If anything the loss would have done him the world of good by making him hungry to get back on top.

Mundine is the one who is at a disadvantage if they fight, he's been in with Cab drivers who barely have a heart beat and hasn't fought anyone near the ability of Kessler.

It would mean nothing for Australian Boxing since Anthony is of low intel and doesn't help promote boxing in a good way in Australia.

Firstly it isn't in Mundine's nature to take risks in fights, that's not an innate characteristic which Mundine possess.

Kessler isn't Damaged goods, for ****'s sake that's almost a stupid thing to say, Kessler wasn't hurt in that fight it wasn't like he was in Gatti vs Ward I,II & III.
If anything the loss would have done him the world of good by making him hungry to get back on top.

Mundine is the one who is at a disadvantage if they fight, he's been in with Cab drivers who barely have a heart beat and hasn't fought anyone near the ability of Kessler.

It would mean nothing for Australian Boxing since Anthony is of low intel and doesn't help promote boxing in a good way in Australia.


the part in bold is so true. this time last year when he'd just beaten soliman i would have given him a really good chance against kessler.. since then he's not only spun his wheels but he's gone backwards..

i have a bad feeling kessler would dominate him more thoroughly than last time

Firstly it isn't in Mundine's nature to take risks in fights, that's not an innate characteristic which Mundine possess.

Kessler isn't Damaged goods, for ****'s sake that's almost a stupid thing to say, Kessler wasn't hurt in that fight it wasn't like he was in Gatti vs Ward I,II & III.
If anything the loss would have done him the world of good by making him hungry to get back on top.

Mundine is the one who is at a disadvantage if they fight, he's been in with Cab drivers who barely have a heart beat and hasn't fought anyone near the ability of Kessler.

It would mean nothing for Australian Boxing since Anthony is of low intel and doesn't help promote boxing in a good way in Australia.

I never said Kessler was damaged goods the guy is awesome. Im just throwing up some shit here.

I just think if Choc turns up 100%, gets geared up for it. Lets his hands go. Lifts his work rate.

He could make it highly competitive.

Even if he looses to Kessler and its close he could get a fight with someone else big after that which would be awesome.

Im happy the WBA have enforced Kessler as the mandatory.

Now Choc has to unify or fight Kess. My instinct tells me he will fight Froch for the WBC title though. :D

Mundine has been fighting bums for so long he probably doesnt even remember what it feels like to be in the ring with a world class fighter like Kessler..

I dont see Mundine winning this fight.. no doubt Mundines looked good lately but so has Kessler and Kessler has looked good in front of solid competition.

it is a simple answer NO

if mundines next fight is aganist kessler than he will lose in clear UD.
but if mundine fights someone like miranda or bika next as a tune up and win. he would beat kessler by SD.

I don't know. i think Mundine's last fight against Kessler was somewhat competitive.
I think kessler's back was 70%, but then again Mundine might have improved significantly since 3 years ago.
I don't know,
I think he has a chance. 50/50 if you ask me. Undecided

I reckon the outcome of this fight depends upon who wins the first 3 rounds.

If Mundine starts fast and gets a few rounds to his credit quickly, his confidence will grow and the fight will be very competitive. Mundine is a great frontrunner.

If Kessler gets off to a good start, look for Mundine to get discouraged and just be happy not to get knocked out and lose a clear cut UD.

if mundines next fight is aganist kessler than he will lose in clear UD.
but if mundine fights someone like miranda or bika next as a tune up and win. he would beat kessler by SD.

I don't think Mundine really needs tune up fights. I mean look at who he fought before Green and Soliman. Those guys make Nievas look world class.

As days continue to go past. If Mundine does fight Kessler, im thinking he wins a close decision. He will need to up his workrate big time.

But if you want to know what i honestly think. Mundine will fight Winky. There is always Froch. But a fight with Winky will be less of a risk and the WBA will allow him to keep his belt after fighting such a credentialled opponent.

Wait for Khoder Nasser to throw out this suprise in the near future.

Choc couldn't have got the fight with Kessler at a worst time! The guy suffered his first loss to Calza and would be looking at KOing Mundine this time round after not doing it first time they met in 2005.

On the other hand it would take someone like Kessler to bring the best out of Mundine. There's no denying his talent 'but' the guy has been fighting cabbies for the last 3 years which isn't letting him learn his craft the correct and hard way. Mundine likes to fight to the level of the cabbies he chooses but once he faces a guy like Kessler who is more seasoned and coming off a schooling to Calza he'll be looking to KO Mundine no doubt.

I'll believe this fight is on once the bell rings for the first round!

So do you guys think with Mundine fighting non quality opponents, that would make him learn less or more? would that make him a better fighter because his confidence grows and can practice his style or does it make him worse because he is adapting to crappy fighters?

So do you guys think with Mundine fighting non quality opponents, that would make him learn less or more? would that make him a better fighter because his confidence grows and can practice his style or does it make him worse because he is adapting to crappy fighters?

definitely definitely worse.

if you're a reserve grade standard footballer.. and you're playing the under 7s every week.. you're going to be in a world of hurt if you have to have a run against the A graders

Choc couldn't have got the fight with Kessler at a worst time! The guy suffered his first loss to Calza and would be looking at KOing Mundine this time round after not doing it first time they met in 2005.

On the other hand it would take someone like Kessler to bring the best out of Mundine. There's no denying his talent 'but' the guy has been fighting cabbies for the last 3 years which isn't letting him learn his craft the correct and hard way. Mundine likes to fight to the level of the cabbies he chooses but once he faces a guy like Kessler who is more seasoned and coming off a schooling to Calza he'll be looking to KO Mundine no doubt.

I'll believe this fight is on once the bell rings for the first round!

Mundine won't fight Kessler.

Just wait for Khoder Nasser to do something here.

He has 1 option to save his fighter : Offer a massive name some big money, so the WBA allow him to hold off on his mandatory for a little while longer. You will see, that big name will be Winky Wright. Or 2 Jermain Taylor.

He needs one of them and the WBA will allow him to avoid Kessler. Then he will most likely go after another big name to continue to avoid Kessler.

No way Choc fights Kessler again until 2010.

Mundine won't fight Kessler.

Just wait for Khoder Nasser to do something here.

He has 1 option to save his fighter : Offer a massive name some big money, so the WBA allow him to hold off on his mandatory for a little while longer. You will see, that big name will be Winky Wright. Or 2 Jermain Taylor.

He needs one of them and the WBA will allow him to avoid Kessler. Then he will most likely go after another big name to continue to avoid Kessler.

No way Choc fights Kessler again until 2010.

Remember Mundine being cocky with Kessler first time they went at it and reckons he can handle any fighter in the world so why doesn't go on TV and call Kessler out??? His pathetic attitude at his press conferences is woeful to say the least! I was reading in Boxing Monthly newspaper how Mundine is saying that once he makes his US debut the fans will be saying they just witnessed the greatest athlete on the planet step into the ring (laughing hysterially!) This kind of comments reiterate what a D@*# Wad Choc really is! LOL LOL

The thing is Choc's really proud to have beaten a Cabbie in Nader!!!LOL

If Kessler comes out looking to destroy Mundine early with a vicious knock out and happens to land nothing for the first 3 or 4, then Mundine should win with a late TKO.

The chances of that happening are slim, If Kessler comes out and lands one big shot within the first three, Mundine will shit himself. Also if Kessler just goes out and is looking to box the full 12 and see what happens I feel he will school Mundine and win by a comfortable UD.

If Kessler comes out looking to destroy Mundine early with a vicious knock out and happens to land nothing for the first 3 or 4, then Mundine should win with a late TKO.

The chances of that happening are slim, If Kessler comes out and lands one big shot within the first three, Mundine will shit himself. Also if Kessler just goes out and is looking to box the full 12 and see what happens I feel he will school Mundine and win by a comfortable UD.
Has Kessler even been down in his career? I don't think he has.

He has a very tight guard, I don't seem him getting stopped anytime soon.

totally agree with your second paragraph though.

Remember Mundine being cocky with Kessler first time they went at it and reckons he can handle any fighter in the world so why doesn't go on TV and call Kessler out??? His pathetic attitude at his press conferences is woeful to say the least! I was reading in Boxing Monthly newspaper how Mundine is saying that once he makes his US debut the fans will be saying they just witnessed the greatest athlete on the planet step into the ring (laughing hysterially!) This kind of comments reiterate what a D@*# Wad Choc really is! LOL LOL

The thing is Choc's really proud to have beaten a Cabbie in Nader!!!LOL

But Mundine didn't dis Kessler, because he didn't want to piss him off. It was the only time Mundine didn't act will a cocksucker leading up to a fight.

But Mundine didn't dis Kessler, because he didn't want to piss him off. It was the only time Mundine didn't act will a cocksucker leading up to a fight.

Mundine was giving Kessler pathetic hand signals and showboating when Kessler him a few times???? Haven't seen fight for a while but am sure he was being a tit!

How was Mundine once the fight with Echols was anounced? From air-raiding every time he had the chance and telling anyone that could be bothered listening he was the greatest this, greatest that... When Choc went on NRL Footy Show 'fatty' Vaughan asked him why he wasn't his usual confident self? Mundine answered nervously that he was OK and that he was focused on the fight! It was funny stuff seeing Mundine's true colours shine thru.

So do you guys think with Mundine fighting non quality opponents, that would make him learn less or more? would that make him a better fighter because his confidence grows and can practice his style or does it make him worse because he is adapting to crappy fighters?

What are you smoking dude? That question is laughable. We've all seen what happens when fighters take a dramatic step up in class. It never works out well for them.

What are you smoking dude? That question is laughable. We've all seen what happens when fighters take a dramatic step up in class. It never works out well for them.

In a few exceptions it does. But not in Mundines case. E.G Pavlik fighting Lockett will work well for him, after 2 wars. Allows his preparation to be easier and less of a beating. In chocs case it will definetely work against him, and he has pretty much thrown away/ is throwing away his best years with pointless and absolutely rediculous defences. He has been sparring with RJJ however, but i think it will be negative all the bad fights.

I've answered this question millions of times.

Training is where you improve, fight time is where you show it.

You dont go into a rugby league match without predetermined drills that you have worked on during the week/month/year. If someone is getting good hard sparring working on areas of defence or attack that prepares him for a opponent then how can that be detrimental to him? it cant.

28 professional rounds vs 150 odd sparring rds, where do you think the improvement is most likely to come from?

it's a fair point mate, but im sure he's not sparring people of kessler's calibre in teh gym.

in footy you talk about getting fit through training but then you talk about match fitness too.. i think the concept crosses over. there's no substitute for time in the ring

(teke im 7/7 in the tipping this week!)

it's a fair point mate, but im sure he's not sparring people of kessler's calibre in teh gym.

in footy you talk about getting fit through training but then you talk about match fitness too.. i think the concept crosses over. there's no substitute for time in the ring

(teke im 7/7 in the tipping this week!)Im pretty sure the term match fitness relates to someone coming back from an injury of some sort or long layoff in both training and game play.

Panthers will get up over the tigers tomorrow night. My man Wesser will see to that.