I just want to express my appreciation to Muhammed Ali, for everything he has done for the sport, and the world. Not only was he a fighter in the ring but also outside. He fought the government even when it cost him the prime years of his career, and is still regarded as the best. He overcame the odds many times, and even now years after he has retired he is fighting this syndrome, not letting it keep him down he carries on how he wants. Lik ehe is standing up to the illness saying '**** You'. A man that never backed down in the ring, never gave up on his beliefs, would fight anyone. Wether its the big puching George Foreman or the tank like Joe Frazier, or even the US government he have the world everything he had.

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So from me, thank you Muhammed Ali.

In a lifetime there are not many true heroes and one should cherish the few heroes that be.

To me there a only 2. Ali and Nelson Mandela. Both of them took a stand against autorities knowing they would have to pay a very hefty price and in the end became widely recognized and beloved figures transcending life.

The price they paid:
Ali 50% of prime boxing career
Mandela 50% of a work-life.

Salute.

In a lifetime there are not many true heroes and one should cherish the few heroes that be.

To me there a only 2. Ali and Nelson Mandela. Both of them took a stand against autorities knowing they would have to pay a very hefty price and in the end became widely recognized and beloved figures transcending life.

The price they paid:
Ali 50% of prime boxing career
Mandela 50% of a work-life.

Salute.


Indeed, it takes an even more special man to look back and say:
'I wouldn't change a thing' like he did..

I don't think it is really possible to put into words how much they have done for the world

Ali is the greatest sports figure of all-time and the greatest hw champ of all time period.

Ali is the greatest sports figure of all-time and the greatest hw champ of all time period.

Yeah, that sums it up. I don't have much more to add.

I think it's about time. Lately people have been hating on Ali a lot and not giving credit where it's due. I'm tired of people hating on him for their personal dislike of the man, or argue that other Heavyweights were greater by giving redicilous reasons.

Most people dont know much about the history of boxing lol no offense, if you think Joe Louis was better than Ali then theres a problem, no one is close.

He was a great fighter but above all he is a great man. Best heavyweight of all time in my book and an inspirational figure to millions across the world.

I watched some of the Holmes fight on youtube and the way Ali bowed his head in the corner when Dundee said to stop it, i swear it almost brought tears to my eyes the way the greatest had fallen.

The Greatest Ali highlight vid:

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Yeah, that sums it up. I don't have much more to add.

I think it's about time. Lately people have been hating on Ali a lot and not giving credit where it's due. I'm tired of people hating on him for their personal dislike of the man, or argue that other Heavyweights were greater by giving redicilous reasons.

Thats why i made this thread. A lot of people seem to forget that Ali was an underdog very often, 7-1 underdog against liston the frist time, not sure the exact odds but he wasnt favoured in the liston rematch. And Forman, a lot of experts thought Big George was gunna kill him!

A True Legend....

Great topic, great posts, and very much needed.

Alan

Bump for you Abos

:alien::alien::alien::alien:

Cheers to the best HW to ever set foot in the ring..

Ali was the man, Respect!!!!

Thats why i made this thread. A lot of people seem to forget that Ali was an underdog very often, 7-1 underdog against liston the frist time, not sure the exact odds but he wasnt favoured in the liston rematch. And Forman, a lot of experts thought Big George was gunna kill him!

The biggest reason I think Ali was underdogged and also the reason for the disrespect he gets today is he didn't fit the mold of what people thought a Heavyweight Champion should be. He was a slick "pretty boy" and people expected the Heavyweight Champions to be destroyers. Still true! I remember reading not that long ago a boxing writer who decried one of the belt holders for winning a fight by decision (I think he was writing about Lewis). He said what HE wanted was a Heavyweight that finished fights standing over the prone bodies of his opponents. In light of that kind of attitude is it any wonder Ali gets the dissrespect he does? That he would be underdogged to that very same kind of destroyer back when he fought? I personally don't share that kind of attitude: I appreciate all styles of fighters (except those that have "John Ruiz" attached to them. It's a shame, but what can you do?

PS. To the gentleman who that Ali was lightyears ahead of Louis. I seriously think you really haven't watched much footage of Louis fight. While I agree with you that Ali was ultimately the greatest Heavyweight ever, ahead of Louis, I don't believe the gap between them is anywhere near as great as you make out.

Poet

The biggest reason I think Ali was underdogged and also the reason for the disrespect he gets today is he didn't fit the mold of what people thought a Heavyweight Champion should be. He was a slick "pretty boy" and people expected the Heavyweight Champions to be destroyers. Still true! I remember reading not that long ago a boxing writer who decried one of the belt holders for winning a fight by decision (I think he was writing about Lewis). He said what HE wanted was a Heavyweight that finished fights standing over the prone bodies of his opponents. In light of that kind of attitude is it any wonder Ali gets the dissrespect he does? That he would be underdogged to that very same kind of destroyer back when he fought? I personally don't share that kind of attitude: I appreciate all styles of fighters (except those that have "John Ruiz" attached to them. It's a shame, but what can you do?

PS. To the gentleman who that Ali was lightyears ahead of Louis. I seriously think you really haven't watched much footage of Louis fight. While I agree with you that Ali was ultimately the greatest Heavyweight ever, ahead of Louis, I don't believe the gap between them is anywhere near as great as you make out.

Poet

Agreed. No way Ali is way ahead of Louis. Personally I would have Joe slightly ahead but I can live with it either way.

a great fighter and a great, great man

i used to think joe louis was the best HW of all time but now.....ive come to regard ali as the best HW


not the best fighter of all time though, that goes to SRR

Agreed. No way Ali is way ahead of Louis. Personally I would have Joe slightly ahead but I can live with it either way.

I have Ali number 1, But I agree it is close. Louis was a great, great fighter and champion.

Ali is my favorite :boxing: of all time. He was an inspiration inside & outside the ring.

The first fight against Liston The fight against George The fight against Frazier 3 Shavers and many other great names. What he done outside the sport was truly amazing?

I have Ali number 1, But I agree it is close. Louis was a great, great fighter and champion.

In terms of fighting I favor Louis, but have no problem with Ali in the one spot. Outside the ring, these men are equals. Both were great men who did great things in the name of equality. As a Louis fan I wish he would get the recognition Ali gets for this, but realize they were from different eras with a different set of standards and rules. Truth be told though, we may have never gotten to see Ali if it weren't for the roads paved by Joe Louis and the doors he opened. Ask Jackie Robinson.
That said, I can't think of another person I would want to meet before Ali. His charisma and worldliness are off the charts. His celebrity and personality are something to be amazed by. I would love to shake his hand some day. God bless him.

Truth be told though, we may have never gotten to see Ali if it weren't for the roads paved by Joe Louis and the doors he opened. Ask Jackie Robinson.

Very true,

As I said. Both Louis and Ali were great fighters, great champions and on top of that great people.

tell me exactly what can't this man do?
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Very true,

As I said. Both Louis and Ali were great fighters, great champions and on top of that great people.

100% agree!!

Between these 2, the only difference that can be made between these 2 legends is that one was knocked out in his prime, and redeemed himself sevenfold, and the other regained the title 3 times and never took a 10 count. Ali the best heavy and fighter ever. It's not even close imo.

The only difference that can be made between these 2 legends is that one was knocked out in his prime, and redeemed himself sevenfold, and the other regained the title 3 times and never took a 10 count. Ali the best heavy and fighter ever. It's not even close imo.