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So my gym has a bully and I imagine each one of you guys has one of these as well. Hes about 6ft 220lbs solid muscle, big macho russian navy guy. He seems like a fairly nice guy but all he does it spar with all the little people and when he does he goes balls to the wall hard as he can winging haymakers. The first time i sparred him he came out swinging for the fences and i tried moving and counterng and then he hit me and it became a toe to toe fight which didnt work out to well for me, then at one point we ended up clinching where he tried to put a standing Gillotine on me(wtf??) which apparently hes done to other people. The 2nd time i sparred him i told myself all i was gunna do is stick and move and i tried that and it worked for the first half until he straight up tackled me into the ropes a started unloading shots. and it became a war once again whichi actualy faired better in but i took alot of shots to the back of the head, and decied to call it a night sparring wise. Thats his history with me...
I constantly see him asking to spar people smaller than him or people who just started and then last week one of the other heavies asked if he wanted to work on some slipping drills and such with him so he didnt wear headgear because he wasnt expecting much.....but the guy didnt clue in and went all out and head butted him...multiple times..
Im just asking tho...what do you guys do with people like this in your gym, and who actualy more or less refuse to spar more experienced or people his own size
Stormin' Norman 03-23-2008, 02:58 PM I had a guy like that at my gym. He stopped coming around. I went to an all amateur gym and this guy was a 14-9 professional Tiger Survivor Taylor was his name, hed goto amateur gyms and ask to spar with all the good amateurs ...this guy would go 100pct though and hit hard, butted, etc. One time he butted me square in the nose and I retaliated by punching him square in the nuts, he had no cup, when he grabbed them grimacing in pain I followed up with a right hook on his cheekbone, sent him on queer street. He stopped coming round after that. My advice is to punch the guy in the balls. Use golatas blueprint.
DA1CATAS 03-23-2008, 03:04 PM I had a guy like that at my gym. He stopped coming around. I went to an all amateur gym and this guy was a 14-9 professional Tiger Survivor Taylor was his name, hed goto amateur gyms and ask to spar with all the good amateurs ...this guy would go 100pct though and hit hard, butted, etc. One time he butted me square in the nose and I retaliated by punching him square in the nuts, he had no cup, when he grabbed them grimacing in pain I followed up with a right hook on his cheekbone, sent him on queer street. He stopped coming round after that. My advice is to punch the guy in the balls. Use golatas blueprint.
lol.............:boxing:
msagrain 03-23-2008, 03:09 PM I just twat them in sparing.
JC Warrior 03-23-2008, 05:30 PM At my first gym there was a bully who all but ran the place. He rarely did the teamwork drills for warmups and mostly just slugged at the heavybag during skills practice. One day he's in the ring roughing up a guy when Ice Griffin came in to work out. If you've seen Griffin you know he's not large, not even close to tall, and not very heavy. Compared to Frank he's about 5 inches shorter and 30 pounds lighter, total mismatch right? Long story short Griffin took the bully to school and humiliated him so bad at one point we could hear Frank start to whine! A grown ass man doing cry baby stuff, the mark of a called out bully for sure. Frank settled down after that and was actually enjoyable to work with from time to time.
Obviously not every gym is going to have a Montell Griffin come in to save the day but it does underline one usually ignored tennet of dealing with bullies. They rarely respond to brute force shows of strength, when it comes to dealing with a hardcore push-you-around bully you MUST impose some humiliation and mental dominance. Physical rough house shows of strength may get the bully to leave you alone, but it will do little to help everyone else. Humiliating or humbling a bully in front of the peer group is what it takes to shape those guys up and get them in line.
My only other experience with bully behavior in the gym was taken care of before it had a chance to flourish. Coach Rivas (USAF boxing head coach) told all the competitors that he wouldn't stand for that sh*t right from the gate. If anything remotely close happened you were gone and he wouldn't ask questions, find out facts, etc, that was it you were out of the gym, off the team no BS.
If you don't have an observant coach who is seeing this bully behavior be sure to communicate it up the chain. Few things will destroy the quality of training time and the learning environment more than a bully.
MILE KITIC 03-23-2008, 06:00 PM kick his ass... if you can't or if you're afraid go get some friends, baseball bats and ski masks :)
Clegg 03-23-2008, 06:15 PM Hey Kayo, what do the coaches do while this is going on?
At the two gyms I've been to I cannot remember a time when I've sparred without at least one of the trainers watching.
This guy sounds like a cunt. Targetting those smaller than you isn't on. And anyone who heatbutts during training should be kicked out of the place. If ****ting in his shoes isn't a realistic possibility you should have a word with your coach (about having him removed/reigned in a bit, not about ****ting in his shoes. Unless you think you coach might be up for it)
potatoes 03-23-2008, 06:35 PM There always has been and always will be bullies in the gym. Whoever the head coach is should be keeping track of it and making sure they can't do their worst. But sooner or later you have to learn how to deal with guys who are bigger and stronger. The coach should be teaching you how to do that too.
sterling 03-23-2008, 07:48 PM well there was one guy who use to talk smack to people he sparred he was rearly annoying and he banged me on my first spar but to be fair i was being over aggressive but it was my first spar anyway but yeh he doesnt come around anymore i duno why but he was sorta bullying guys when sparring tellin them what to do and crap it was annoying.
jberg 03-23-2008, 07:54 PM just steer clear, refuse to spar with him and tell the coach
2swell k-wells 03-23-2008, 10:51 PM yeah, just tell on him.
Yeah i dont want to be a rat...thats just not me. The sad part is is he litteraly refuses to spar the experienced guys his size
fraidycat 03-23-2008, 11:37 PM Yeah i dont want to be a rat...thats just not me. The sad part is is he litteraly refuses to spar the experienced guys his size
That sucks. At our gym we have a guy I'll just call "The Equalizer." He's 6'4", 230 lbs, about 6 years in the ring, and he hands out concussions the way other people hand out sticks of gum. Legend has it he can make you **** blood. He looks out for the new guys and the little guys. Whenever we get a bully, he always manages to end up in the ring with The Equalizer. You don't have to "tell" on anybody, just bring it up with The Equalizer: "Hey, man. You need to spar this guy. Like, really spar him."
In my next life I'm gonna be big. :boxing:
That sucks. At our gym we have a guy I'll just call "The Equalizer." He's 6'4", 230 lbs, about 6 years in the ring, and he hands out concussions the way other people hand out sticks of gum. Legend has it he can make you **** blood. He looks out for the new guys and the little guys. Whenever we get a bully, he always manages to end up in the ring with The Equalizer. You don't have to "tell" on anybody, just bring it up with The Equalizer: "Hey, man. You need to spar this guy. Like, really spar him."
In my next life I'm gonna be big. :boxing:
haha we have a guy like that, the heavy that got headbutted last week was saying hes gunna spar him this comin week and get back at him
fraidycat 03-23-2008, 11:59 PM haha we have a guy like that, the heavy that got headbutted last week was saying hes gunna spar him this comin week and get back at him
Let us know how that turns out. :boxing:
Let us know how that turns out. :boxing:
it should be good, "mr bully" asked me to spar for this coming week too. i'l make sure i spar him first instead of him being C when going three different people
!! Shawn 03-24-2008, 12:45 AM There is a really easy solution. Tell him to stop hitting so hard. Honestly, people need to learn to swallow their pride to preserve their health.
If I am sparring with someone bigger than me, and they are hitting harder than I want, I stop the action and ask them to tone down the power.
Its never failed me yet.
Most these people aren't bullies, they just don't realize they are hitting as hard as they are.
ERI104 03-24-2008, 07:22 AM i remember this one guy who always tried to impress coach with big power shots. He's a little shorter than me but he lifts weights so he has power... but no speed. So when we get into the ring he tries to drop bombs and all i did was jab and back out. one time he caught me with one of those bombs and my coach stopped the sparring session and told him to cool it. We went back to jabbing and him trying to kill me and when he caught me again my coach stopped it and said he must have had a bad day so he should just go to the punchin bag.
Lesson of this story. Spar when your coach is around.
Now when i'm with my new coach i never spar without his permission adn without him watchin.
makaveli_uk 03-24-2008, 04:59 PM My gyms acatually really friendly.. Theres no bullies.. Everyones real nice.
There is a really easy solution. Tell him to stop hitting so hard. Honestly, people need to learn to swallow their pride to preserve their health.
If I am sparring with someone bigger than me, and they are hitting harder than I want, I stop the action and ask them to tone down the power.
Its never failed me yet.
Most these people aren't bullies, they just don't realize they are hitting as hard as they are.
Believe me, alot of people have i think its the language barrier or something because he doesnt seem to understand
JEDIX79 03-24-2008, 07:13 PM yeah, just tell on him.
lol How old are you?
Ironbar 03-24-2008, 09:28 PM Your learning how to box then box with him. Thats what boxing is all about. He can be big but Im sure he has some holes you can touch him,the first thing you need is a plan then and this is the most important H.E.A.R.T. Make his big butt work.
aussieboxer2320 03-25-2008, 03:24 AM if theres someone whos pushin you around just get aggressive,stand up to em, dont take that **** to sparring, sparring is to learn,not to settle petty disputes. if it starts to lead to a physical confrontation, just tell them you simply want to train and lets stop arguing, if they keep at it after that, theyre a complete dick and u have every right to punch there lights out
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