If you could get rid of a rapper, passed or present, that would make rap better overall with his or her absense..... Who would it be?

I'll start off....

Soulja Boy.

Luther Campbell

Jay Z, Nas, Lil Wayne, Biggie, Pac.....All would make and break this industry...
I can go on but I'll stop here..

Jay Z - If he's taken away, I believe there will be a ton of artist getting more pub..When Jay drops, only a few artist are even mentioned up until the release...BUT, we would lose one of our FULL cd hit makers..

Nas - He goes, so does the entire hip hop is dead ****..Nas is a powerful artist and this movement proved that. BUT we would lose one of the last artist that aint afraid to speak his mind..

Lil Wayne - If he's taken away, i feel people would actually listen to music for what it really is, ENT...Since the MTV ****, this artist has been knocked more than any artist in the history of the game..BUT if you lose him, you lose tons of new artist and old artist as well..His features literally MAKE artist, both new and old..He is that connection between the known & unkown for any artist..

Biggie & Pac - When people say the greatest rappers ever, these two steal the spotlight from a Jay Z and other brillant artist..BUT if we lose their music we lose probably the best music ever made from the East & West coast..

If you could get rid of a rapper, passed or present, that would make rap better overall with his or her absense..... Who would it be?

I'll start off....

Soulja Boy.
Souja Boy is for the kids..Let him make it..

Luther Campbell
Luke is for the FREAKS..he gotta stay...lol

If you could get rid of a rapper, passed or present, that would make rap better overall with his or her absense..... Who would it be?

I'll start off....

Soulja Boy.
Great thread man..This could lead to so serious discussions playa..

Great thread man..This could lead to so serious discussions playa..

Thanks. But about Soulja Boy. Plenty of rappers can be for the kids and not suck. He sucks. He goes.

immortal technique he suckz mang he think he darka. jedi mind trickz buncha white boiz sayin *****. necro slow white boi.

soulja boy, tony yayo......

Jay Z, Nas, Lil Wayne, Biggie, Pac.....All would make and break this industry...
I can go on but I'll stop here..

Jay Z - If he's taken away, I believe there will be a ton of artist getting more pub..When Jay drops, only a few artist are even mentioned up until the release...BUT, we would lose one of our FULL cd hit makers..

Nas - He goes, so does the entire hip hop is dead ****..Nas is a powerful artist and this movement proved that. BUT we would lose one of the last artist that aint afraid to speak his mind..

Lil Wayne - If he's taken away, i feel people would actually listen to music for what it really is, ENT...Since the MTV ****, this artist has been knocked more than any artist in the history of the game..BUT if you lose him, you lose tons of new artist and old artist as well..His features literally MAKE artist, both new and old..He is that connection between the known & unkown for any artist..

Biggie & Pac - When people say the greatest rappers ever, these two steal the spotlight from a Jay Z and other brillant artist..BUT if we lose their music we lose probably the best music ever made from the East & West coast..

That was one of the stupidest posts I've ever read on here. It was well written but without Biggie, Pac, Nas & Jay Hip-Hop as we know it would probably cease to exist. Not to mention all the classic tracks those 4 delivered. Nas' worst album has more classic songs then Wayne does, lawl:owned: And I'm a Wayne fan, but the truth is he is an average emcee and basically a fad that will be over in a year or two unless he reinvents himself and stops jacking everyones style (Clipse, Jigga, etc etc...). Honestly, the only track that some can consider a classic is 'Stuntin' Like My Daddy'..that beat is wicked and the lyrics he spits are sick as hell. Other then that he doesn't have ****.

The fool even said Eminem was scared to work with him....lol. Negroe, Eminem would murder you 10 times over on wax. Anyways, enough of my rant, but without those 4 emcees above, hip hop wouldn't be ****.

As for C-Drone's thread...Yayo and Soulja Boy has already been mentioned. So I now say John Cena...or Lil' Bow Wow. I mean 'Bow Wow'...because he's a 'man' now.

Not feelin these threads. Naturally I'm not a guy that hates something. Because if I don't like something I just disregard it. I don't think anyone deserves to be removd from the game altogether. It's not my decision

That was one of the stupidest posts I've ever read on here. It was well written but without Biggie, Pac, Nas & Jay Hip-Hop as we know it would probably cease to exist. Not to mention all the classic tracks those 4 delivered. Nas' worst album has more classic songs then Wayne does, lawl:owned: And I'm a Wayne fan, but the truth is he is an average emcee and basically a fad that will be over in a year or two unless he reinvents himself and stops jacking everyones style (Clipse, Jigga, etc etc...). Honestly, the only track that some can consider a classic is 'Stuntin' Like My Daddy'..that beat is wicked and the lyrics he spits are sick as hell. Other then that he doesn't have ****.

The fool even said Eminem was scared to work with him....lol. Negroe, Eminem would murder you 10 times over on wax. Anyways, enough of my rant, but without those 4 emcees above, hip hop wouldn't be ****.

As for C-Drone's thread...Yayo and Soulja Boy has already been mentioned. So I now say John Cena...or Lil' Bow Wow. I mean 'Bow Wow'...because he's a 'man' now.
Did your stupid ass not see the "BUT" within every artist...Read again and re-post dumb ****..I didn't say **** about classic songs....

Gotta say Lil Wayne. He has taken the spotlight, he's turned cheesy gimmicks and lame similies to an all time high as to where I can't even go to school without hearing someone recite a lame similie from Wayne and claim he is the best rapper ever.

Not feelin these threads. Naturally I'm not a guy that hates something. Because if I don't like something I just disregard it. I don't think anyone deserves to be removd from the game altogether. It's not my decision

Actually, it is. I was speaking hypothetically, so the decision IS yours. It's not about hating someone it's about loving a culture and genre of music. Some people don't help the genre or culture, they hurt it or set it back or just ALLOW and HELP it stay stagnate. Therefore, they SHOULD be removed. Soulja Boy, in my opinion is that kind of artist.

You don't like the thread, you don't have to contribute.

Actually, it is. I was speaking hypothetically, so the decision IS yours. It's not about hating someone it's about loving a culture and genre of music. Some people don't help the genre or culture, they hurt it or set it back or just ALLOW and HELP it stay stagnate. Therefore, they SHOULD be removed. Soulja Boy, in my opinion is that kind of artist.

You don't like the thread, you don't have to contribute.
Drone, I honestly don't see how Souja Boy has hurt the genre..No different than a "Doin the Butt" or some "2 Legit to quit" some 10+ years ago...That young boy turned the game upside with that dance..I'm will to bet the farm you tried to do it at one point..Whether bull****in or not..you tried it..That boy made all races, age groups and etc. SUPERMAN THAT HOE...Even my lil 3 year old nephew love that joint..

Gotta say Lil Wayne. He has taken the spotlight, he's turned cheesy gimmicks and lame similies to an all time high as to where I can't even go to school without hearing someone recite a lame similie from Wayne and claim he is the best rapper ever.
Without Wayne many artist would never be found..see Playa Circle....

"I hate Soulja Boy," 12 year-old Arrested For Throwing Rock at Rapper's Tour Bus

In Bloomington, IL a 12-year-old boy was arrested and accused of throwing a rock through Soulja Boy's tour bus windshield Thursday night, police told The Pantagraph.

According to Lt. Pete Avery, the young boy told the officers that he hated Soulja Boy.

Soulja Boy was in town and had performed Wednesday at the U.S. Cellular Coliseum. At around 7:40 PM Thursday outside of the Hampton Inn West, the 12 year-old allegedly threw the rock.

Department spokesman Dave White stated that the only other incident reported was a single fight between two women outside the Coliseum the night of the concert. At that time no one was arrested.

Lt. Joe Butcher stated there were only minor problems which were related to patrons having too much to drink, which could happen at similar venues.

The department used a supervisor and five officers on overtime for security for the concert to control the flow with more officers located near the venue as the patrons left, according to Butcher.

In other news, Soulja Boy will be touring with Lil Mama for the "21 & Under" tour starting April 11th - May 11th.

Without Wayne many artist would never be found..see Playa Circle....

Artists who aren't worth my time, most likley talent-less artists who are only on the tracks due to their catchy swagger and prolly simple-minded lyrics for simple-minded people. There are plenty of MC's who have put other MC's on the map, Wayne has done little compared to others.

Without Wayne many artist would never be found..see Playa Circle....

Who gives a **** about Playaz Circle? They've contributed one good track to hip hop.

Camron.

He's so ****. I've got no interest at all in listening to anything he's ever made.

Camron.

He's so ****. I've got no interest at all in listening to anything he's ever made.

That's a little unfair. He has made probably 5-10 nice, nice tracks, although he is a **** emcee.

Who gives a **** about Playaz Circle? They've contributed one good track to hip hop.
That one track had either your ass or someone close to you screamin Duffle Bag Boy....

That one track had either your ass or someone close to you screamin Duffle Bag Boy....
Camron aint did ****..If you say Wayne sucks then Camron should be at the top of your list..He is horrible with his bubble gum lyrics..

Camron aint did ****..If you say Wayne sucks then Camron should be at the top of your list..He is horrible with his bubble gum lyrics..

I've said many times, I am a fan of Wayne, most notably the album he did with Birdman and Tha Carter II. But some of the **** that spews out of his mouth is awful...and it looks like Carter III is headed in that direction.

And Cam has had nicer tracks then Wayne, believe it or not:
Welcome To New York (hotter then anything Wayne has done)
Adrenaline Rush (same as above)
On Fire Tonight

...etc etc

That one track had either your ass or someone close to you screamin Duffle Bag Boy....

I loved that track...but it screams one hit wonder and I guarantee it will be.

Drone, I honestly don't see how Souja Boy has hurt the genre..No different than a "Doin the Butt" or some "2 Legit to quit" some 10+ years ago...That young boy turned the game upside with that dance..I'm will to bet the farm you tried to do it at one point..Whether bull****in or not..you tried it..That boy made all races, age groups and etc. SUPERMAN THAT HOE...Even my lil 3 year old nephew love that joint..

Your three year old cousin is being sold a song by a teenager with lyrics that try to make "Superman that hoe" an appealing reference. That alone, one might say, could HURT the genre. Nonetheless, I didn't say he HURT it, he did however allow and help it stay the same. Reliant on ringtones and stagnate with redundant songs that add no real substance.

And by the way, I've never tried to do that dance...... Ever.

The difference between this song and a song like 2 Legit To Quit, is that at that time, song ideas like that were fresh. CDs were also still being a bit more censored at the time. Now, we have a bit more freedom, if given the right circumstances and he chooses to do tired, old trends. It's a bit sad. Make money, do whatever you want. But don't expect me to respect someone for it.

Im not a huge hip hop fan... but i recently heard Lil wayne, his voice sounds like ****, even though people will say its not all about his voice...dammmn :ugh:

Good thread. I'd remove Wayne before Cam. Cam has more personality on his best tracks, more flavor. I haven't bought into the evolution of Wayne. He went from being an artist with average mic skills and something to prove, to a budding talent who stepped his game up considerably, to proclaiming (along with several of his fans) he's some excellent lyricist (I don't see it), to this almost comedic emcee who likes to put quantity ahead of quality.

Cam really never pretended to be anything he's not. At least that's the vibe I have gotten. He showed pretty solid mic skills in his COC days, but he developed into being more of a humorous, material emcee later on. Here is a good take on him from Flash Juon:

"That's Cam's basic steelo in a nutshell. He alternates between being a street drama narrator, a pharmaceutical entrepeneur, and a straight up hustler looking for bigger and better whips to floss and tits to grab. There's nothing particularly profound or redeeming about it, but there's also nothing overtly offensive about it either. Cam is not the funniest or most gifted rapper in the game, so he relies more on his smooth (almost monotone) vocals and calmly focused lyrical delivery to do the job for him. Provided the beats are tight he can pull it off most of the time."

I think that's a good take on him. Personally, Purple Haze was a better listen than any Wayne album I own (Lights Out, Tha Carter) or have heard (Carter II, 500 Degrees).

Lil Wayne. ALthough, his music has allowed me to hate people before meeting them if I hear them listening to his music, so I know they suck ahead of time.

Good thread. I'd remove Wayne before Cam. Cam has more personality on his best tracks, more flavor. I haven't bought into the evolution of Wayne. He went from being an artist with average mic skills and something to prove, to a budding talent who stepped his game up considerably, to proclaiming (along with several of his fans) he's some excellent lyricist (I don't see it), to this almost comedic emcee who likes to put quantity ahead of quality.

Cam really never pretended to be anything he's not. At least that's the vibe I have gotten. He showed pretty solid mic skills in his COC days, but he developed into being more of a humorous, material emcee later on. Here is a good take on him from Flash Juon:

"That's Cam's basic steelo in a nutshell. He alternates between being a street drama narrator, a pharmaceutical entrepeneur, and a straight up hustler looking for bigger and better whips to floss and tits to grab. There's nothing particularly profound or redeeming about it, but there's also nothing overtly offensive about it either. Cam is not the funniest or most gifted rapper in the game, so he relies more on his smooth (almost monotone) vocals and calmly focused lyrical delivery to do the job for him. Provided the beats are tight he can pull it off most of the time."

I think that's a good take on him. Personally, Purple Haze was a better listen than any Wayne album I own (Lights Out, Tha Carter) or have heard (Carter II, 500 Degrees).

You're absolutely right. No one is disputing Wayne on Carter II...most of that CD was fresh as hell and was musically very good and most of the lyrics were on point. But the man is now claiming he is the best rapper alive strictly because of the amount of songs he is featured on. If that was actually the case then Snoop Dogg was the best rapper for about 3 years plus.

And seriously, Cam never has acted as if he is the best rapper alive. And his top 5 tracks > Wayne's.

CamRon, Tony Yayo, Yukmouth, D4L, Dem Franchise Boyz, Bow Wow, Jermain Dupri,

wayne
birdman
Souljah Boy
and every water'd down rapper in the game now

we need more Artists like
Lupe Fiasco
Talib
Common
Kayne(from collage dropout)
and of course Jigga, Nas, and maybe even cassidy

this is an phase of glamor and look at my cars,ho's,and money
WE NEED THE TIME OF THE LYRICS TO COME BACK TO HIP HOP

CamRon, Tony Yayo, Yukmouth, D4L, Dem Franchise Boyz, Bow Wow, Jermain Dupri,

as well as of these Ni99as
o DJ UNK as well

If you could get rid of a rapper, passed or present, that would make rap better overall with his or her absense..... Who would it be?

I'll start off....

Soulja Boy.

good choice. young wayne

Good thread. I'd remove Wayne before Cam. Cam has more personality on his best tracks, more flavor. I haven't bought into the evolution of Wayne. He went from being an artist with average mic skills and something to prove, to a budding talent who stepped his game up considerably, to proclaiming (along with several of his fans) he's some excellent lyricist (I don't see it), to this almost comedic emcee who likes to put quantity ahead of quality.

Cam really never pretended to be anything he's not. At least that's the vibe I have gotten. He showed pretty solid mic skills in his COC days, but he developed into being more of a humorous, material emcee later on. Here is a good take on him from Flash Juon:

"That's Cam's basic steelo in a nutshell. He alternates between being a street drama narrator, a pharmaceutical entrepeneur, and a straight up hustler looking for bigger and better whips to floss and tits to grab. There's nothing particularly profound or redeeming about it, but there's also nothing overtly offensive about it either. Cam is not the funniest or most gifted rapper in the game, so he relies more on his smooth (almost monotone) vocals and calmly focused lyrical delivery to do the job for him. Provided the beats are tight he can pull it off most of the time."

I think that's a good take on him. Personally, Purple Haze was a better listen than any Wayne album I own (Lights Out, Tha Carter) or have heard (Carter II, 500 Degrees).
Before the fall of Dipset/Roc-a-fella, this clown PRETENDED to be a different crayon every year..Cam sucks..He will never get any play in my deck..

Why?????Do yall want to remove this/these artist???...List and explain.....Its easy to say who and not explain WHY..

I loved that track...but it screams one hit wonder and I guarantee it will be.
But they're here!!!!!!! Its up to them to keep the fire going..Wayne done his part..feel me..

I've said many times, I am a fan of Wayne, most notably the album he did with Birdman and Tha Carter II. But some of the **** that spews out of his mouth is awful...and it looks like Carter III is headed in that direction.

And Cam has had nicer tracks then Wayne, believe it or not:
Welcome To New York (hotter then anything Wayne has done)
Adrenaline Rush (same as above)
On Fire Tonight

...etc etc
Nothing about Camron comes close to touchin Weezy F. Baby,,,,please say the baby..

Cam is a pre-school rapper.."Papa lapa tapa dapa, I a take her home and slapa and crapa"....lol...If I'm lying I'm dying...Santana is/was Dipset..

wayne
birdman
Souljah Boy
and every water'd down rapper in the game now

we need more Artists like
Lupe Fiasco
Talib
Common
Kayne(from collage dropout)
and of course Jigga, Nas, and maybe even cassidy

this is an phase of glamor and look at my cars,ho's,and money
WE NEED THE TIME OF THE LYRICS TO COME BACK TO HIP HOP
Why do we need more artist like them??..I love Gansta/Street Rap and a Common, Lupe nor Kanye can give me that..

Hip Hop never left...Stop listening to Nas, KRS One, Rakim and the rest of them washed up fools..

Nothing about Camron comes close to touchin Weezy F. Baby,,,,please say the baby..

Cam is a pre-school rapper.."Papa lapa tapa dapa, I a take her home and slapa and crapa"....lol...If I'm lying I'm dying...Santana is/was Dipset..

and I'm sure the rap game needs Wayne and his metaphors that make no sense:owned:

and I'm sure the rap game needs Wayne and his metaphors that make no sense:owned:
Today, the rap game needs Wayne..

And playa, you killin yourself with the owned signs...4real..

Off subject, but forget a rapper, I'd much rather get rid of an entire race....



...White pieces of **** similar to those on this forum.
You'll be banned before the days out..

You'll be banned before the days out..

Yeah, but I only speak the words echoing in your heart.

Rosewood, that post was disturbing.

...wasn't me, though.

Yeah, but I only speak the words echoing in your heart.
I'm offended by what you say...move around playa

I'm offended by what you say...move around playa

Son, this is the internet.
This is why they made this ****, son.
I don't know about you, but I live for this ****...
I'm confined to a wheelchair, got no parents, no friends, and just about everything you take for granted in your world...I ain't got.
So if I want to express some hate while I smoking my rock. Don't trip.
I don't mean any of it.

Son, this is the internet.
This is why they made this ****, son.
I don't know about you, but I live for this ****...
I'm confined to a wheelchair, got no parents, no friends, and just about everything you take for granted in your world...I ain't got.
So if I want to express some hate while I smoking my rock. Don't trip.
I don't mean any of it.
That's sad if you ask me playa...just sad...But if that floats your boat, then have fun playa..

Now advise which rapper you'd get rid of...

That's sad if you ask me playa...just sad...But if that floats your boat, then have fun playa..

Now advise which rapper you'd get rid of...

2pac.
I'd replace him with Makaveli.

Snoop Dogg too.

All them conscious rappers too.

Except maybe Common.

All them conscious rappers too.

Except maybe Common.
Now WHY would you replace them??

Now WHY would you replace them??

They don't inspire me.
Common doesn't really either, but something about his **** I like.
I don't know.
He can say the same thing over and over in many different ways.

They don't inspire me.
Common doesn't really either, but something about his **** I like.
I don't know.
He can say the same thing over and over in many different ways.
True........Thanks playa

The only bone I have to pick with the mother-earth guys (common, talib kweli) is when they say the 'real hip hop'. Hip Hop isn't just about a soulful sample or a positive spin on life.

Nothing about Camron comes close to touchin Weezy F. Baby,,,,please say the baby..

Cam is a pre-school rapper.."Papa lapa tapa dapa, I a take her home and slapa and crapa"....lol...If I'm lying I'm dying...Santana is/was Dipset..
Cam and Wayne are both very similar. Both throw out some wack metaphors that don't make sense. The difference between the two is Cam doesn't call himself the best rapper alive and you're boy does...name one track Wayne has done that is nicer then this:

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Why do we need more artist like them??..I love Gansta/Street Rap and a Common, Lupe nor Kanye can give me that..

Hip Hop never left...Stop listening to Nas, KRS One, Rakim and the rest of them washed up fools..
Cause they make sense in rhymes and it's somewhat of poetry, Lupe fiasco is one of the most underrated artists in the game right now, Groups like Tha Product don't get any radio play and they come with it the hardest imo, artists like Lil wayne, Souljah boy, and this southern snapping and popping **** is a phase.
WASHED UP???? LMAO
why would i stop listening to the pioneers of hip hop?
would u like me to listen to a whole album about money, cars,clothes,ho's?
c'mon man, why stop the classics? today is nothing but the saaaammmmee thing over and over again, i can't begin on the horrible words that are spilling out of these"rappers" mouth, they are more like pop stars with the dancing and ****. Nuff said
your a fool

I've said many times, I am a fan of Wayne, most notably the album he did with Birdman and Tha Carter II. But some of the **** that spews out of his mouth is awful...and it looks like Carter III is headed in that direction.

And Cam has had nicer tracks then Wayne, believe it or not:
Welcome To New York (hotter then anything Wayne has done)
Adrenaline Rush (same as above)
On Fire Tonight

...etc etc

I forgot about those two. Welcome to NYC was INSANE. That's probably the best lyrics I've heard CamRon spit.

Cause they make sense in rhymes and it's somewhat of poetry, Lupe fiasco is one of the most underrated artists in the game right now, Groups like Tha Product don't get any radio play and they come with it the hardest imo, artists like Lil wayne, Souljah boy, and this southern snapping and popping **** is a phase.
WASHED UP???? LMAO
why would i stop listening to the pioneers of hip hop?
would u like me to listen to a whole album about money, cars,clothes,ho's?
c'mon man, why stop the classics? today is nothing but the saaaammmmee thing over and over again, i can't begin on the horrible words that are spilling out of these"rappers" mouth, they are more like pop stars with the dancing and ****. Nuff said
your a fool

Check this video out. Imagine rap with Nas, KRS-One, & Rakim:

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hands down get rida soulja boy. whoever says wayne an cam'ron, download 'tha carter II' and 'purple haze'...i garuntee ud wanna keep them *****z around >>>>>>soulja boy an other ringtone rappers (except chamillionaire) who got no real lyrical talent