He outboxed me..

I could even tell he was holding a lil back because he just walked in and I was already about to do my countdown and leave...

Trainer asked if i wanted to go.... so I did.

He was just so comfortable.. not scary at all and didnt waste any punches.. lil sturdy white boy... he said he was like 200.. but i dont think he was a pound over 185. and im currently 173... so that fight could be made in the Ams. he's shorter than me..27 years old...and his father owns a gym in Tampa...said he'd been doing it since a child.

Arms didnt look too much bigger than mine so if he wasn't lying the weight must be in his legs.

We went 2 rounds. which the last 20 secs of the 2nd i did alot of clinching.
He said i caught him good with a hook and pivoted out but i dont even remember it.

They said i was overly defensive too.

The experience level i feel was too great for me..but i can do it ebcause his pop wasn't ridiculous.

This VERY MUCH agitates my soul to no ending point. I'm going to go back to my old training and just go all out constantly instead of this watered down follow the gym routine thing.


Question was.. EXPERIENCE..anyone know something that works against it.. since we can't control time. God given Skill can't be the only way... because obviously I don't have that catergory at the moment to beat him.
I'll take any suggestions on improving..


Thanks for the serious comments that follow.

That's just it. Experience. Getting in there and being use to different fighters/styles. I could sit here and tell you in detail how to fight a person but unless you experience it yourself and are use to doing certian things, I minas well talk to the wall.

Like you said its experiance unless you're freakishly gifted you're never gonna make up too much ground on someone with alot more experiance, just spar with as many people as possible, you'll lern to apadt more quickly, from the vids I've seen of you you've obviously got talent its just learning to apply that talent.

These are the types of sessions that you're gonna need Cat. No point boxing people who don't give you a good test. Don't get downbeat on it, just look at improving yourself to that level and beyond. Now, I don't suppose you've got that session recorded?

Exactly, experience is the ultimate equalizer. I spar a guy in my club who is about eight inches shorter than me and gives up about 50 lbs to me as well. He's recently turned pro, though, and has been boxing for 10+ years. Needless to say, I get worked almost every time. But, these are the kinds of guys we need to spar with to better ourselves. I learn so much more from defeat than I do from victory.

White Power!!!

These are the types of sessions that you're gonna need Cat. No point boxing people who don't give you a good test. Don't get downbeat on it, just look at improving yourself to that level and beyond. Now, I don't suppose you've got that session recorded?

Naaa I usually would have.. I didnt even know i was gonna be sparring... he just walked in the gym and my trainer put me in after my routine.

I wasn't trynna not record it or sumthin.. I will get my next one of me and him.. we will be going again maybe next week.

Going into sparring and sparring against people of lower quality then you really gets you no where. You don't learn much from that. However going in the ring against someone with alot more experience and works with you, but pretty much schools you, you will pick up alot and work on your mistakes. Guarentee if you continue to spar with people like him, or him, your game will improve at a much faster rate.

I've sparred with tons of green guys, and months later they have improved greatly just because of the rounds that I give them. Keep at it and don't worry about getting schooled, it happens to all of us.

I wasn't trynna not record it or sumthin.. I will get my next one of me and him.. we will be going again maybe next week.

As you know, there's a lot of peeps on here offering pearls of wisdom from time to time. By recording your next bout maybe these same peeps can shed offer you up some tips once they've seen it.

As you know, there's a lot of peeps on here offering pearls of wisdom from time to time. By recording your next bout maybe these same peeps can shed offer you up some tips once they've seen it.

Yea man exactly...

Bottom line i just need to get better man.. I'm no where near ready for anyone professional...actually shouldn't even have the balls to say im thinking about some day going professional.

lol and i said Some day... not Sunday ;):boxing:

but yea its a lil depressing.

actually shouldn't even have the balls to say im thinking about some day going professional

And why not? We've all got to aim somewhere man, why not aim for the top?

You've gotta get over the not-dominating in sparring bit - jesus. There is always gonna be someone whose better than you. What if your trainer brings Wlad down your gym and mops you up for 2 hours - you can't hate yourself.

Sparring is practice and an area to learn. Every night in sparring, i try new things and perfect my moves in a controlled area. I sometimes get my arse beaten, but its cos i'm not being competative. The way i spar and the way i fight are completely different - you should be more like that. Apparently loads of Ali's sparring partners have stories of dominating in sparring - yet how many men who've fight him have stories like that? You see what i'm saying. Spar to learn and fight to win.

You ain't ever gonna learn anything, if you spar people who you are better than all the time. If you want to go to that next stage, you gotta spar a better class of fighter. My main sparring partner is a 17 year old whose about to make the national team. You think he beats the **** outta me? Hell yes.

You think i've boxed better since sparring with someone like this? Definitely.

Don't let it get you down. Just go back and try again and don't try knocking his head off next week cos' he got you last time. It ain't his fault.

You've gotta get over the not-dominating in sparring bit - jesus. There is always gonna be someone whose better than you. What if your trainer brings Wlad down your gym and mops you up for 2 hours - you can't hate yourself.

Sparring is practice and an area to learn. Every night in sparring, i try new things and perfect my moves in a controlled area. I sometimes get my arse beaten, but its cos i'm not being competative. The way i spar and the way i fight are completely different - you should be more like that. Apparently loads of Ali's sparring partners have stories of dominating in sparring - yet how many men who've fight him have stories like that? You see what i'm saying. Spar to learn and fight to win.

You ain't ever gonna learn anything, if you spar people who you are better than all the time. If you want to go to that next stage, you gotta spar a better class of fighter. My main sparring partner is a 17 year old whose about to make the national team. You think he beats the **** outta me? Hell yes.

You think i've boxed better since sparring with someone like this? Definitely.

Don't let it get you down. Just go back and try again and don't try knocking his head off next week cos' he got you last time. It ain't his fault.


Everything is true that you said...

Thing is that I'm just Supremely competitive..

I won't try to knock his head off.. i can control myself... But I do want to do better than him.. and I love improving quickly.. and if i don't i must find a way to do so.

So I will go back to having my goal Juan Diaz stamina because i know it starts there...then I will try to learn a few other styles so i can switch.

Everything is true that you said...

Thing is that I'm just Supremely competitive..

I won't try to knock his head off.. i can control myself... But I do want to do better than him.. and I love improving quickly.. and if i don't i must find a way to do so.

So I will go back to having my goal Juan Diaz stamina because i know it starts there...then I will try to learn a few other styles so i can switch.

Just keep going at the pace you're doing. Make sure you learn something new every day and remember that Rome wasn't built in a day. You won't learn anything from beating people up all the time.

When I spar, i throw counter punches all the time mainly. Work on my moves. Any one can punch.

Practice your defence and perfect your techniques.

I know how you feel. I'm not even remotely as good of a boxer as you, but we have some killers in our gym. And there's one dude who's been boxing for 30 years, probably 50 years old with salt-and-pepper stubbly hair, who comes in every so often and just whips everyone's ass. I posted about him, before.

What our coach said about fighting a more experienced boxer is, "That's why you have a cornerman."

Right?

Da1,

you should always talk like that son.

Having quiet confidence and working on your skills is better then being below average (which is the level you are at now most likely) and being a cocky prick, ya dig?

Anyway, keep sparring guys better then you. THat's the only way you get better and learn. Can't learn without trying.

You've gotta get over the not-dominating in sparring bit - jesus. There is always gonna be someone whose better than you. What if your trainer brings Wlad down your gym and mops you up for 2 hours - you can't hate yourself.

Sparring is practice and an area to learn. Every night in sparring, i try new things and perfect my moves in a controlled area. I sometimes get my arse beaten, but its cos i'm not being competative. The way i spar and the way i fight are completely different - you should be more like that. Apparently loads of Ali's sparring partners have stories of dominating in sparring - yet how many men who've fight him have stories like that? You see what i'm saying. Spar to learn and fight to win.

You ain't ever gonna learn anything, if you spar people who you are better than all the time. If you want to go to that next stage, you gotta spar a better class of fighter. My main sparring partner is a 17 year old whose about to make the national team. You think he beats the **** outta me? Hell yes.

You think i've boxed better since sparring with someone like this? Definitely.

Don't let it get you down. Just go back and try again and don't try knocking his head off next week cos' he got you last time. It ain't his fault.

the bolded is so key but stated incredibly simple and accurately .

I know how you feel. I'm not even remotely as good of a boxer as you, but we have some killers in our gym. And there's one dude who's been boxing for 30 years, probably 50 years old with salt-and-pepper stubbly hair, who comes in every so often and just whips everyone's ass. I posted about him, before.

What our coach said about fighting a more experienced boxer is, "That's why you have a cornerman."

Right?

how can a 50 year old whoop everyone's ass? Must be a small ass ring that doesent require that much foot movement or hes just a freak of nature cause even i can handle very experienced ppl who are that age. maybe i just havn't sparred one of the ones that are still sharp

Keep fighting guys better and soon you will be the guy that quietly dismantles and confuses the "other" guy.

the bolded is so key but stated incredibly simple and accurately .

I have so much ****ing wisdom it seems untrue. :banana:

doing a sports psyc course at the moment and there's all this research that proves that people who are task orientated in sports learn quicker and better than people who are ego orientated..

ego orientated being your motivation for improvement is beating others.. and improving in comparison to others

task orientated being your motivation is for attaining self made goals.. improving in comparison to yourself..

its the way to go man

(the tests i did showed i was ego orientated too)

doing a sports psyc course at the moment and there's all this research that proves that people who are task orientated in sports learn quicker and better than people who are ego orientated..

ego orientated being your motivation for improvement is beating others.. and improving in comparison to others

task orientated being your motivation is for attaining self made goals.. improving in comparison to yourself..

its the way to go man

(the tests i did showed i was ego orientated too)

no suprise there. I always had you down as some kind of egotistical aussie monster!

haha it just means id rather come first in a race than run a personal best

who'd have thought those internally motivated cunts would be the ones who get the success

I always thought i wasn't as competative as others to be honest Liam.

It might sound strange, but coming first in everything doesn't bother me. I do sports not to win, but to enjoy myself. Of cause alot of enjoyment is found in winning, so that's why i probably strive to be sucessfull at boxing.

I do things for myself I guess, not to impress others.

I always thought I was just odd for being like this, but it seems i'm one of the other types of people.

I always thought i wasn't as competative as others to be honest Liam.

It might sound strange, but coming first in everything doesn't bother me. I do sports not to win, but to enjoy myself. Of cause alot of enjoyment is found in winning, so that's why i probably strive to be sucessfull at boxing.

I do things for myself I guess, not to impress others.

I always thought I was just odd for being like this, but it seems i'm one of the other types of people.

Neither am I. I've even taken my foot off the gas a few times in competitions, just so as not to hurt some egotistical cunt too badly

Neither am I. I've even taken my foot off the gas a few times in competitions, just so as not to hurt some egotistical cunt too badly

I see where you're coming from entirely. I always feel that this is some kind of weakness.

It's made me think more about which professionals are task orientated or ego orientated.... is one less sucessful than the other?

I mean.. take an upcoming fight - the first one i think with those specifications... possibly Cotto vs. Gomez? I think Gomez is task orientated... where Cotto is ego orientated?

I don't know... are all champions ego orientated MG? Tell us more about what you were lectured.

Well I must be a complex person.. because wanting to be the dominating factor is the reason I have built to give out.. along with the money,fame, and power that comes along with it.

I'm gonna sound crazy But I'll tell you part of my real reason...

I need a huge house..that is kept at very low tempetures for me to live in...The cost of this place will be ridiculous as it will have everything I need... It won't be "lifestyle flashy" but it will be big. Then I could possibly live in peace.

Well I must be a complex person.. because wanting to be the dominating factor is the reason I have built to give out.. along with the money,fame, and power that comes along with it.

I'm gonna sound crazy But I'll tell you part of my real reason...

I need a huge house..that is kept at very low tempetures for me to live in...The cost of this place will be ridiculous as it will have everything I need... It won't be "lifestyle flashy" but it will be big. Then I could possibly live in peace.

You're boxing to become rich and have stuff?!! Eeh... that is complex.

You know when you've got that house, you'll want something else...right?

I don't even think Mr.Flashy Pretty Boy Floyd started boxing for money. I think he did it, just to box.

You're boxing to become rich and have stuff?!! Eeh... that is complex.

You know when you've got that house, you'll want something else...right?

I don't even think Mr.Flashy Pretty Boy Floyd started boxing for money. I think he did it, just to box.

I'm doing it for health. I need more medicine... I take some everyday... And I actually just put some on.
An alternative to my medicine is when Its winter time.

I don't have money to move away from summer...I don't even have money to visit my nieces... And I refuse to just have a 3-5 month period of suffering every year...When my body is old it wont be able to take that.

If someone would give me a House with those heating specifications I'd be Great. But thats not happening. So I box to for my health. If you had what I have you'd understand the severity of the affect weather has on me.

I see where you're coming from entirely. I always feel that this is some kind of weakness.

It's made me think more about which professionals are task orientated or ego orientated.... is one less sucessful than the other?

I mean.. take an upcoming fight - the first one i think with those specifications... possibly Cotto vs. Gomez? I think Gomez is task orientated... where Cotto is ego orientated?

I don't know... are all champions ego orientated MG? Tell us more about what you were lectured.

yeah im the same.. i dont need to grind someone into the dirt for a kick..

i havent got too much info actually on this.. i was sick as a dog and i missed the lecture on motivation but caught up a bit in the tute...

i think the gist of it was.. its not definitive.. like not all losers are this and not all winners are that.. you can succeed with either and fail with either.. but as a general statement..

people with task orientation improve and learn much better than people with ego orientation.. so i guess the greater majority of champs would be task orientated.. this may differ in boxing as it's such a one on one beat or be beat type of sport.

just looking at some notes now.. definitely better to be task orientated


research on ego orientation has shown..

Higher anxiety, lower self-efficacy
Decreased effort
High ego + low perceived competence => poor motivation
Success is due to ability
Feeling incompetent
Increased drop outs
Increased chance of failure


task orientation research has shown...

Long term participation
Performance benefits
greater Confidence & perception of competence
Success due to effort
Less likely to cheat
“flow” state
Quality of training enhanced

so you're probably in a good place being task orientated mick :fing02:

that's interesting, thanks mg. good readin.

May i add though.. that you missed the lecture on "motivation" hahahahaha. How bad is that! Talk about a lecture u should have gone to, you lazy student bastard!

It reminds me of my housemate who slept through his 9 oclock lecture every week for a semester. Only to get an interview with the course leader who was concerned about his attendance. Only to sleep through that too. haha.

I'm doing it for health. I need more medicine... I take some everyday... And I actually just put some on.
An alternative to my medicine is when Its winter time.

I don't have money to move away from summer...I don't even have money to visit my nieces... And I refuse to just have a 3-5 month period of suffering every year...When my body is old it wont be able to take that.

If someone would give me a House with those heating specifications I'd be Great. But thats not happening. So I box to for my health. If you had what I have you'd understand the severity of the affect weather has on me.

Why, watcha got?

that's interesting, thanks mg. good readin.

May i add though.. that you missed the lecture on "motivation" hahahahaha. How bad is that! Talk about a lecture u should have gone to, you lazy student bastard!

It reminds me of my housemate who slept through his 9 oclock lecture every week for a semester. Only to get an interview with the course leader who was concerned about his attendance. Only to sleep through that too. haha.

haha i never even thought about that.. skipping the lecture on motivation.. i think making racist jokes about the lecturer in my 'intercultural awareness' subject tops it for irony though

haha in the bold that's classic uni student lifestyle. my sleeping patterns say it all 4am till 2pm.. ive only got 13 contact hours a week but i still miss at least 3..

the real world is going to hit me hard

haha i never even thought about that.. skipping the lecture on motivation.. i think making racist jokes about the lecturer in my 'intercultural awareness' subject tops it for irony though

haha in the bold that's classic uni student lifestyle. my sleeping patterns say it all 4am till 2pm.. ive only got 13 contact hours a week but i still miss at least 3..

the real world is going to hit me hard

Don't worry mate. You'll do just fine. I never turned up to half my lectures and i was only meant to be in for 5 hours a week! haha. Disgraceful eh?

lol piss poor. good times. who'd be a tradey

Cut the ring of try and corner him then pound him to the body?

Well I must be a complex person.. because wanting to be the dominating factor is the reason I have built to give out.. along with the money,fame, and power that comes along with it.

I'm gonna sound crazy But I'll tell you part of my real reason...

I need a huge house..that is kept at very low tempetures for me to live in...The cost of this place will be ridiculous as it will have everything I need... It won't be "lifestyle flashy" but it will be big. Then I could possibly live in peace.

I understand wanting to work to get what you want/need in life. But boxing is among the harder ways to earn money.

There are so many better ways, I won't try to tell you about them here

It's a psycological game, boxing.

You Can learn from loosing a fight , And from winning a fight.

If you can learn from both, you are on your way to become a good fighter!
Just by fighting a guy who's better than you are, isnt all that!

And learn to loose!!!!

Fight to win!

I understand wanting to work to get what you want/need in life. But boxing is among the harder ways to earn money.

There are so many better ways, I won't try to tell you about them here

Ain't it the truth. In life you haven't got to break your back to get them money.

He outboxed me..

I could even tell he was holding a lil back because he just walked in and I was already about to do my countdown and leave...

Trainer asked if i wanted to go.... so I did.

He was just so comfortable.. not scary at all and didnt waste any punches.. lil sturdy white boy... he said he was like 200.. but i dont think he was a pound over 185. and im currently 173... so that fight could be made in the Ams. he's shorter than me..27 years old...and his father owns a gym in Tampa...said he'd been doing it since a child.

Arms didnt look too much bigger than mine so if he wasn't lying the weight must be in his legs.

We went 2 rounds. which the last 20 secs of the 2nd i did alot of clinching.
He said i caught him good with a hook and pivoted out but i dont even remember it.

They said i was overly defensive too.

The experience level i feel was too great for me..but i can do it ebcause his pop wasn't ridiculous.

This VERY MUCH agitates my soul to no ending point. I'm going to go back to my old training and just go all out constantly instead of this watered down follow the gym routine thing.


Question was.. EXPERIENCE..anyone know something that works against it.. since we can't control time. God given Skill can't be the only way... because obviously I don't have that catergory at the moment to beat him.
I'll take any suggestions on improving..


Thanks for the serious comments that follow.#

Simple, I believe anybody can beat anybody so long as they do everything right. How did he fight? Nobody has an all over fighting skill, so what was his way? Remember, which arm did he punch with? What type of punch? How did he duck? Straight down or to the side? Did he make small jumps when he moved or smooth on his feet?

It's kind of hard to tell you how you can beat him without knowing how he fights. However, here's the most fundamental key - do not stop. By this I mean keep hitting, don't stop to "pose" as they say. This doesn't mean actually pose, it means when you hit him forget it, treat it as if you haven't hit him and don't think "that was a good hook" or whatever, not even for a second. Once you've got him trapped in that he's yours. Amateur is about points and not body damage but my philosophy is body damage means he is less likely to rack the points. A great little tactics is when he comes with a right jab, instead of blocking it or ducking it, hook it. You use your glove to pull his down and out, this will open up the left side of his head and entire body. You then right hook him (opposite this if you're left handed). Once you've got that hook, use a left hook, then a right and so on. Either he'll move back or crouch down. If he moves back and covers his face, guard yours and then go for the body shots, if he is slightly crouched so his elbows are to protect his body, side step (smoothly) and get the kidney. This will hopefully force him to open his face again. If he bent down then step back and uppercut, move to the side and uppercut the body to if need be. Just one tactics, can't be sharing all of my magic though.

A video might help... Hard to give advice beating a fighter we haven't seen... Having said that, I think it's quite obvious that someone with a lot of experience would be able to beat you quite easily. I've seen a bunch of your stuff, including the latest sparring video, and I honestly think your inexperience shines through. You're very raw and make a lot of beginner mistakes still. Patience, humility and hard work will get you a long way, cause you've got the physical tool needed. Just hang in there and take your time.

A video might help... Hard to give advice beating a fighter we haven't seen... Having said that, I think it's quite obvious that someone with a lot of experience would be able to beat you quite easily. I've seen a bunch of your stuff, including the latest sparring video, and I honestly think your inexperience shines through. You're very raw and make a lot of beginner mistakes still. Patience, humility and hard work will get you a long way, cause you've got the physical tool needed. Just hang in there and take your time.

hey if ya have the time could you name a few of them?

I know i drop my right hand sometimes when i jab/hook..Not as much as I use to.. but i still find myself doing it.

I know you could probably find alot.. but can ya name a few for me to think of?

Thanks in advance if you get the chance.

hey if ya have the time could you name a few of them?

I know i drop my right hand sometimes when i jab/hook..Not as much as I use to.. but i still find myself doing it.

I know you could probably find alot.. but can ya name a few for me to think of?

Thanks in advance if you get the chance.

Sure. Just remember, I'm not shooting you down, so don't get defensive. If you want to be a better fighter, don't come back with an answer for each thing I mention, just take it to heart and work on it.

1. When you jab, you tend to drop your right hand. Especially when you throw double jabs, which is also the time where it is the most dangerous. If the opponent taps away your first jab, and your right is low, you have no way of blocking a counter right. So get you right hand up, ready to block, when you throw double jabs. (being tired is no excuse to be doing this by the way, because keeping your hands in close, and thereby your movements smaller actually takes less energy)EDIT: ARH, forgot you mentioned that one yourself! :*(

2. You tend to stand still on your feet, and wait for the other guy. Even if you want to counter the guy, and feel you're faster than him, you need to move your feet, shifting around, finding a position where you're better off than him. If you stand still, you're giving away initiative, and he'll be the one finding the better position for punching. Standing still only works when you're in there with someone so much worse than you that he shouldn't be in there. Never stand still, it's a bad, bad habit.

3. You sometimes push your punches. I understand that the guy in that video is heavier, and therefore you want to keep him off, but all you're doing is tiring yourself, and leaving yourself open for him to counter. Your punches should go back in as fast as you put them out there.

4. You tend to get on your back foot and lean to the right when you get rushed. This is a big mistake, because there's nowhere to go, but back into his right hand. Keep your weight over your front foot, and either slip his punches coming in, by which you get close enough to counter with hooks or uppercuts, or move backwards/sideways, which allows you to control the distance and throw straight counters when his punches fall short.

I'd also like to see you using more feints to set up your offence, instead of just standing there and picking a random moment to charge in with a bunch of shots. Work the guy with movement and feints until he makes a mistake or positions himself wrong, and then attack. This is something your coach will have to work on with you though, because it's very hard to pick up on your own...

these are just a few things, based on looking at one round, there's tons more to improve, which is the beauty of boxing. The more you learn about it, the more you realize you don't know.

Edit: I realize you're getting away with a lot of this in the video. Just remember that the other guy is also inexperienced, and makes just as many mistakes. That will not always be the case. :)

I'm gonna print ya response.. thanks alot...


And lol I wouldn't have asked if i thought I'd have a answer for everything..

But yea all jokes aside thanks..i'm gonna beat this into my head.

I don't know if it has been said, but experience is nothing more then reaction vs. thinking. The more you spar, and train, the more you react and think less. Speed has alot to with reacting, as well, being able to put punches together instinctivly. Practice is the key, keep challenging yourself.

I don't know if it has been said, but experience is nothing more then reaction vs. thinking. The more you spar, and train, the more you react and think less. Speed has alot to with reacting, as well, being able to put punches together instinctivly. Practice is the key, keep challenging yourself.

The thing is that if you spar without working on certain things, and just go in there to try and win the round, you're just repeating your mistakes and the things you already know how to do. Therefore it is extremely important to have specific things you want to do in there, and work on them even if that means losing the round. I don't see many people doing that...

I'm gonna print ya response.. thanks alot...


And lol I wouldn't have asked if i thought I'd have a answer for everything..

But yea all jokes aside thanks..i'm gonna beat this into my head.

Hehe, I wasn't sure which you Iwould be responding to; the cocky knowitall, or the student of the game. Thankfully it was the latter ;)

Hehe, I wasn't sure which you Iwould be responding to; the cocky knowitall, or the student of the game. Thankfully it was the latter ;)

lol. yea that guys on vacation for a while.:boxing:

just wanted to say that I respect DA1CITAS for coming online and posting about a defeat in sparring.

most guys wouldn't do that.

respek.


I have been a fan of the sport for about ten years and training to be a professional for a pretty short amount of time, I'm 25 years old.

a guy like you're talking about, to beat, you gotta fight dirty man. I'd do stuff like clinch, push him off, try to get a hook in. clinch, hit that ****er behind the head. he's probably smart after you do that and will just duck low low and spin behind you if he's more agile than you which is what it sounds like. perfect a liver blow. guys who are difficult to touch upstairs are always vulnerable to the body ive found. try to corner him before you do this, if he keeps stepping away and using straight shots, put both gloves in front of your face and walk forward,(dont dash) he'll have to throw a hook at some point in time...exchange with him when he does, get in a left hook to his mid section and hope it lands on the sweet spot. after you land it, or miss it, clinch and do it all over again. tie that ****er up over and over again. sounds like you're shorter and he's taller. so you need to be controlling the tempo via clinches and working within the clinch to land punches if he's adept at straight shots,staying away, and guarding his chin.

stormin norman shouldn't be encoraging you to cheat..

but like Freddy Roach says.. "**** it, this is a fight!!!"

Sometimes you've gotta BEAT the man, to be the man. No matter what it takes. Get ****ing nasty.