Tool and Rage Against the Machine are probably better than anything else you will ever like in your life. Face it, they are simply the best. Honorable mentions goes to Sonata Arctica, Elton John, Queen, Guns n Roses, and the DuckTales theme...you guys tried but you'll never be better than Tool or RATM.

KIDS and Requiem for a Dream are probably two of the coolest movies to ever exist. Clint Eastwood's westerns are overrated along with every other movie he has done, some are good but still overrated. The Rocky saga should have stopped 5 movies sooner than what it did. Sylvester Stallone is a horrible actor and his movies are worse than Arnold's. Terminator was horrible and part 3 will be worse, no movie needs a female antagonist. Maybe Braveheart would have been tolerable if it was 4 hours shorter. Bill and Ted's excellent adventure sucked, so does The Matrix.

Vitor Belfort, Chuck Liddell, and Randy Couture will lose to Tito Ortiz. Claim Tito is scared of Chuck all you like, he will beat all 3. The "old" Vitor isn't coming back, and even if he did it wouldn't matter.. he would still lose. Props to his perm though, that **** rules, but not even hair like that can beat Tito. He is the #1 LHW in the world.

Pride is better than the UFC. I don't care what points you try to make they as to why UFC may be better, it's not true and you know it.

George Carlin isn't funny. He's a disgruntled old man, he makes good points and has lots of good things to say. He's no comedian, he needs to give up.

Jamie Foxx is worse than Carlin when it comes to trying to be funny.

George Costanza was the best character on Seinfeld, everyone knows this. George's dad is second best. Kramer is an idiot.

If you were born in America, you're American. Get over it mother****ers. Just because The Sopranos is a hit TV show about the mafia doesn't mean you are too cool for school because you're "Italian-America". You're American with distant italian descent, or irish descent, african descent. Shut the **** up.

People in America are poor by choice.

Baseball sucks. Football sucks. Hockey sucks. Soccer sucks. Basketball sucks. MMA is the only sport worth watching. K-1 is okay, but it isn't something people should care much about. **** Mirko Cro-Cop Filipovic, he will never be forgiven for what he did to Sakuraba.

Nogueira will beat Fedor in a rematch.

****, **** and ****.

**** my room and **** this computer. I'm leaving the house today. I'm not showering. I brushed my teeth simply to get rid of the bad taste. Yes I will be wearing my chute boxe hoodie, worn out adidas shoes, and the same clothes as yesterday. I don't give a **** what kind of first impression I leave with women. If they like me they like me, if they don't they don't.

Oh, and...

I think everyone should treat each other with kindness and sweetness, regardless of personal differences, race, religion, or anything. Treat people how you would like to be treated in return.

You have no testosterone in your body at all

CESARO RULES

**** RATM.

Tool & RATM = \m/

Rugby doesn't suck. Saved by the bell sucks.

WOW! Cesaro is not holding back today! Tell us what you REALLY think! FIESTY!!!!

I thought Slater was cute

Saved by the bell does suck.

Everything those ****ing morons did was in school. They never had to leave. They were usually the only students to ever attend school, and when they weren't they were the only ones who talked. I hope they ****ing die.

I'm leaving the house right now. I'm actually putting my shoes on as I type and will be making my way towards the door after I hit "Submit Reply". I will return later today.

I want to mention Queen one more time, they are an awesome band. But they are not Tool and they will never been RATM.

cesaro is wise in his tool & ratm picks, wise in his "poor by choice" and ufc vs. pride theories.

otherwise he sucks.

RATM, AKA OPOS (Overrated Pieces of ****)

Originally posted by Cesaro
Tool and Rage Against the Machine are probably better than anything else you will ever like in your life.

Pride is better than the UFC. I don't care what points you try to make they as to why UFC may be better, it's not true and you know it.

George Carlin isn't funny. He's a disgruntled old man, he makes good points and has lots of good things to say. He's no comedian, he needs to give up.

Jamie Foxx is worse than Carlin when it comes to trying to be funny.

If you were born in America, you're American. Get over it mother****ers.

People in America are poor by choice.


Marry me.

Tool is good, Ratm is good but gets repetative.

problem with RATM - they are anti-capitalist band BUT they are on sony record label and make videos and MILLIONS OF MILLIONS of dollars.

thats not to anti-capitalist if you ask me.

as for poor by choice, i definately did not choose to be poor.

**** You.

OH and GWAR = STOMPS THE **** OUT OF RATM AND TOOL.

HAIL TO THE BEST BANG EVER GWAR!

Originally posted by Crystalline Dream
Marry me.

People listen up don't stand to near I've got somthin' that you all should hear all lies all the lies all the lies
told to me make a little part of history, well...
I was always taught that boy meets girl, fall in love get married and forget the world. Nine months later sweet
baby's on the way, kiss 'em on the cheek and life's okay
I don't feel no pain I don't have no time to listen to conflicting points of view, oh. It's a crazy world to live
alone. A ball and chain I call my home; a ba na na na na whooo
People listen up don't stand to close, I've got somethin' that you all should know: Holy Matrimony's not
for me, rather die alone in misery because
I was always taught boy meets girl, fall in love get married and forget the world, nine months later sweet
baby's on the way. Isn't that what they used to say?
Well the girl you knew, and the bonds that we grew, turned into a ball and chain, ohh.
I step into the great unknown. and a ball and chain I call my home; a-ba-na-na-na-na, whooo
crazy world to live alone

(ba-na-na-na-nanana-na...........)
Well the girl that you knew and the bonds that we grew turned into a ball and chain, ohh
I step into the great unknown, and a ball and cahin I call my own, because marriage doesn't work in the
world today, It's an institution that is in decay and if I have love I wish to portray, I will surley find
another way because
I was always taught that boy meets girl, fall in love get married and forget the world nine months
later the sweet baby's on the way kiss him on the cheek and life's okay
I don't feel no pain I don't have no time to listen to conflicting points of view whoa I step into the great
unknown with a ball and chain I call my own; a-ba-na-na-na-na whoooo

Originally posted by Cesaro
Honorable mentions goes to Sonata Arctica, Elton John, Queen, Guns n Roses,
KIDS and Requiem for a Dream are probably two of the coolest movies to ever exist. Clint Eastwood's westerns are overrated along with every other movie he has done, some are good but still overrated. The Rocky saga should have stopped 5 movies sooner than what it did. Sylvester Stallone is a horrible actor and his movies are worse than Arnold's. Terminator was horrible and part 3 will be worse, no movie needs a female antagonist. sucked, so does The Matrix.

Vitor Belfort, Chuck Liddell, and Randy Couture will lose to Tito Ortiz. Claim Tito is scared of Chuck all you like, he will beat all 3. The "old" Vitor isn't coming back, and even if he did it wouldn't matter.. he would still lose. Props to his perm though, that **** rules, but not even hair like that can beat Tito. He is the #1 LHW in the world.

George Costanza was the best character on Seinfeld, everyone knows this. George's dad is second best. Kramer is an idiot.

If you were born in America, you're American. Get over it mother****ers. Just because The Sopranos is a hit TV show about the mafia doesn't mean you are too cool for school because you're "Italian-America". You're American with distant italian descent, or irish descent, african descent. Shut the **** up.

People in America are poor by choice.

Baseball sucks. Football sucks. Hockey sucks. Soccer sucks. Basketball sucks. MMA is the only sport worth watching. K-1 is okay, but it isn't something people should care much about. **** Mirko Cro-Cop Filipovic, he will never be forgiven for what he did to Sakuraba.

Nogueira will beat Fedor in a rematch.




While you're out please get hit by a bus...thank you

Originally posted by Cesaro
I want to mention Queen one more time, they are an awesome band. But they are not Tool and they will never been RATM.

nor will they ever be:
led zepplin
rolling stones
black sabbath
lynard skynard
the beatles
the doors
hendrix
pink floyd
aerosmith
van halen
nirvana
pearl jam

OR GWAR!

Originally posted by Purity
nor will they ever be:
led zepplin
rolling stones
black sabbath
lynard skynard
the beatles
the doors
hendrix
pink floyd
aerosmith
van halen
nirvana
pearl jam


I think I am in love

Originally posted by Lei Tong
RATM, AKA OPOS (Overrated Pieces of ****)

please state why so i can explain why you're wrong.
thank you :)

Originally posted by VulgarTheClown
Tool is good, Ratm is good but gets repetative.

problem with RATM - they are anti-capitalist band BUT they are on sony record label and make videos and MILLIONS OF MILLIONS of dollars.

thats not to anti-capitalist if you ask me.

as for poor by choice, i definately did not choose to be poor.

**** You.

you are correct.



Tool and Rage Against the Machine are probably better than anything else you will ever like in your life.

you are half-right. see post above for which half.


KIDS and Requiem for a Dream are probably two of the coolest movies to ever exist. Clint Eastwood's westerns are overrated along with every other movie he has done, some are good but still overrated. The Rocky saga should have stopped 5 movies sooner than what it did. Sylvester Stallone is a horrible actor and his movies are worse than Arnold's. Terminator was horrible and part 3 will be worse, no movie needs a female antagonist. Maybe Braveheart would have been tolerable if it was 4 hours shorter.

Requim for a dream would have been alright had it not copped off on what Irvin Welsh already did. KIDS blew as well as anything that closet case pedophile Larry Clark directs. just see BULLY, its KIDS added with a murder theme.

Braveheart, just plain good.


George Carlin isn't funny. He's a disgruntled old man, he makes good points and has lots of good things to say. He's no comedian, he needs to give up.


yet you like the anal,*****y and whining character George Castanza? sad part is he is based off Larry David who's HBO show is as painful to watch as a man masterbating with a cheese grater.

Originally posted by Aaron Bizarre
you are correct.





you are half-right. see post above for which half.




Requim for a dream would have been alright had it not copped off on what Irvin Welsh already did. KIDS blew as well as anything that closet case pedophile Larry Clark directs. just see BULLY, its KIDS added with a murder theme.

Braveheart, just plain good.





yet you like the anal,*****y and whining character George Castanza? sad part is he is based off Larry David who's HBO show is as painful to watch as a man masterbating with a cheese grater.


so right!

Originally posted by VulgarTheClown
problem with RATM - they are anti-capitalist band BUT they are on sony record label and make videos and MILLIONS OF MILLIONS of dollars.

problem with your theory- they are anti-capitalist in the sense that they recognize a problem with capitalism because it allows it's patrons to get greedy.
once they become greedy then they begin to give up common morals and ethics for the sake of earning a higher paycheck. RATM may come off extreme at times but the whole goal is to get your attention.
as far as the claim of them being hypocrates by making millions of dollars on a record label you can also site the fact that they have DONATED millions to various organizations such as Unite Organization, Women Alive, The National Committee for Democracy in Mexico, and dozens of others.
so think about it.....if YOU want to spread your message are YOU going to spread it to a 100 people a night in some rinky-dink club or are you going to sign a label and let the ENTIRE WORLD hear what you have to say within months???? i thought so.

Originally posted by VulgarTheClown

as for poor by choice, i definately did not choose to be poor.

**** You.
ok so who chose for you then?? or was it just God peeing on you?

LMAO@masurbating with a cheese grater! OUCH!!! That makes me think of of bloody, stingy, hamburger!!!

I am going to ignore this and walk away....I am not going to debate this..I will just go about my buisness and make some more poop jokes

Originally posted by Aaron Bizarre
just see BULLY, its KIDS added with a murder theme.


**** yeah! that movie's brutal. lots of tits too :)

RATM may come off extreme at times but the whole goal is to get your attention.
as far as the claim of them being hypocrates by making millions of dollars on a record label you can also site the fact that they have DONATED millions to various organizations such as Unite Organization, Women Alive, The National Committee for Democracy in Mexico, and dozens of others.
so think about it.....if YOU want to spread your message are YOU going to spread it to a 100 people a night in some rinky-dink club or are you going to sign a label and let the ENTIRE WORLD hear what you have to say within months???? i thought so.

as people the donating of money to charity can only be applauded. They have made a world of differance for alot of organizations. though I tend to frown on funding revolutionaries because of thier inability to be monitered.

as for the message, going mainstream is reaching out to deaf ears. Since half these people dotn care and the other 49% are self rightous blow hards who pretend to give a **** but do nothing anyway. The open-minded will find these things, just like everyone here found MMA and sees it for what it is and often we go out of are way to gain info. I dont think Mainstremism will help carry the message but they use the mass amounts of its money for charity so rock on.

im still not really down with the music part though, I think very few rock/rap styles work.

The only way that Gwar are the best band in the world is if we live in the bizarro world where it's cool to watch 7th Heaven.

Gwar ****ing suck.

I think RATM gets a lot of credit for being servicable in a genre full of crap. Yes, servicable: DLR is an okay rapper/ nothing special singer and/or screamer; Morello is NOT the great guitar player he's made out to be (I'll give him innovative);etc.

I won't bother getting into their political stances as to avoid the hornet's nest.

On a personal basis, it'd be nice to meet a band w/o having to share their beliefs or be converted lest ye want to be told how wrong you are; DLR was a straight up prick; Wilk's a cool enough guy.

I was never big on their music (and especially not on their politics; heard the same **** before only better), and meeting them in person did little to make me appreciate them or their message anymore than I do(n't).

Originally posted by Aaron Bizarre
as for the message, going mainstream is reaching out to deaf ears. Since half these people dotn care and the other 49% are self rightous blow hards who pretend to give a **** but do nothing anyway. The open-minded will find these things, just like everyone here found MMA and sees it for what it is and often we go out of are way to gain info. I dont think Mainstremism will help carry the message but they use the mass amounts of its money for charity so rock on.


i don't really see any other alternative than mainstremism. it's all a numbers game. let's be fair and admit that most people are mindless ****s who buy services and products based on catchy tv adds and bright colors on the package. even most "educated" people in politics are just simply relaying **** that was fed down their throats by opinionated books, pamphlets, websites, or other people.

so it's not really a matter of WHO hears the message but more along the lines of WHAT an individual does to carry it on.

in regards to the mainstream. people are people. it's a numbers game. 2 million dumb****s here it, 1,500 do something about it, 50 of them actually do something intelligent about it. i don't see any better way to get your word out (regardless of who agrees with your message).

have you guys heard the Berkeley Based band known as FIFTEEN? I dont think they are that musically inclined but have like 8 friends who do so if you like Rage or at least music with a message you should probably try them.

Originally posted by Lei Tong
I think RATM gets a lot of credit for being servicable in a genre full of crap. Yes, servicable: DLR is an okay rapper/ nothing special singer and/or screamer; Morello is NOT the great guitar player he's made out to be (I'll give him innovative);etc.

I won't bother getting into their political stances as to avoid the hornet's nest.

On a personal basis, it'd be nice to meet a band w/o having to share their beliefs or be converted lest ye want to be told how wrong you are; DLR was a straight up prick; Wilk's a cool enough guy.

I was never big on their music (and especially not on their politics; heard the same **** before only better), and meeting them in person did little to make me appreciate them or their message anymore than I do(n't).

in regards to how good of a vocalist zach is or how good a guitar player tom is:
it's strictly opinionated and, therefore, tough to get conclusive with. all i can say is that you ARE 1 out of 100 who feels that way. i've never ever heard anyone say that tommy morello isn't an astounding guitar player. most of the very technical praise that i've heard has been from guitar players themselves.....a lot who thought that the last true guitar riffing band to hit the scene was van halen. you can say "innovative" in the sense that he HAS pattoned various equipment that makes it literally impossible for anyone to create the exact same sound but you can't simply look at that muther****er wailing insane licks on the live footage and sit back and go "holy **** man!!".
and that last time i checked, originality is the most important aspect of ANY type of art. it's one thing to play someone else's cords, it's another thing to create you're own tunes, but to create a WHOLE NEW STYLE of playing should definetely put you somewhere higher up on the totem pole. whether the listener actually enjoys hearing them is strictly opinions. if you know the guitar then you know it takes a tremendous amount of talent to pull off some of the **** that morello has.

politics:
means nothing to how good a band is, whether you agree or disagree. if there's anything to judge then it's the effectiveness on HOW the band gets the message out (like what me and aaron are debating) because the whole purpose of music is expression.

your personal encounter:
lol. dude eddie van halen is one of the biggest *******s around. last time i checked, it didn't stop him from tearing up the gee-tar. who cares how they acted towards ya! how does that affect the actual musical talent within the band. you might as well say that led zepplin is a ****ty band because you don't like jon bonham's ****in mustache!
maybe you caught them on a bad day. if some stranger walks up to you and starts talking to you and you're having a bad day then i doubt you're gonna be too friendly either. i know i wouldn't.

Tool sucks...
Kids is a good movie, Braveheart is good too....
UFC is better than Pride...
George Costanza was the best character on Seinfeld....
Football, Basketball, and Hockey do not suck....

TOOL owns
KIDS sucked ( and so does larry clark )
Rocky the first one was good.
RATM ( eeh )
Clint Eastwood=Brilliant
George Carlin=funniest stand up comedian
Pride better than UFC? ( I dont know )
FIFTEEN is a good listen
AC Slater= cute as hell
Braveheart owns

Aaron= 99% right

Its time for you to change your fun fact.

Teenage angst is a wonderful thing

Led Zeppelin, Metallica, Black Sabbath, Lynard Skynard, Pink Floyd, Iron Maiden, Pearl Jam... Tool is a piece of ****, as is RATM.

Clint Eastwood is ****? Clearly you have NOT watched enough of "Unforgiven"...

Braveheart was amazing. Both of the movies you mentioned were mediocre at best... Nothing in this thread compares with Taxi Driver, Full Metal Jacket, and Unforgiven.

UCC will pwn all someday.

The Simpsons is the best show EVER on TV.

Kramer was definitely not nearly as funny as any of the Costanza's.

South Park is the single greatest invention/creation/discovery in the history of Man. Yes, SP is superior to mere wheels and fire.

in case you all did not know this

but seinfeld was possibly the worst show ever made.

only morons watched that **** it was horrible.

and i know tons of people watched it and you know what they were mostly americans and they were morons.

It was simple, it was funny.

What did I do?

You ate poo

Curly, I have testosterone. Although having not masturbated in a week and not feeling the desire to has me worried. I did not get hit by a bus, sorry.

Crystalline Dream, I do.

Purity, I don't suck and you know it.

Gman, I don't know much about rugby but I'm sure I would not like it.

Mr. Beelzebub, thank you. Likewise.

Seinfeld is an okay show for awhile.

I don't remember who, George Costanza is awesome. Larry David=#1=Curb Your Enthusiasm. KRAZY EYEZ KILLAAAAH.

I didn't feel like reading all of that about RATM blahblahblah capitalism whatever. I'm sure you all made good points but RATM and Tool are still the best.

the best compaired to being analy raped in prisson

Come on!
Uggh!

Come on, although ya try to discredit
Ya still never edit
The needle, I'll thread it
Radically poetic
Standin' with the fury that they had in '66
And like E-Double I'm mad
Still knee-deep in the system's ****
Hoover, he was a body remover
I'll give ya a dose
But it'll never come close
To the rage built up inside of me
Fist in the air, in the land of hypocrisy

Movements come and movements go
Leaders speak, movements cease
When their heads are flown
'Cause all these punks
Got bullets in their heads
Departments of police, the judges, the feds
Networks at work, keepin' people calm
You know they went after King
When he spoke out on Vietnam
He turned the power to the have-nots
And then came the shot

Yeah!
Yeah, back in this...
Wit' poetry, my mind I flex
Flip like Wilson, vocals never lackin' dat finesse
Whadda I got to, whadda I got to do to wake ya up
To shake ya up, to break the structure up
'Cause blood still flows in the gutter
I'm like takin' photos
Mad boy kicks open the shutter
Set the groove
Then stick and move like I was Cassius
Rep the stutter step
Then bomb a left upon the fascists
Yea, the several federal men
Who pulled schemes on the dream
And put it to an end
Ya better beware
Of retribution with mind war
20/20 visions and murals with metaphors
Networks at work, keepin' people calm
Ya know they murdered X
And tried to blame it on Islam
He turned the power to the have-nots
And then came the shot

Uggh!
What was the price on his head?
What was the price on his head!


I think I heard a shot
I think I heard a shot
I think I heard a shot
I think I heard a shot
I think I heard a shot
I think I heard, I think I heard a shot

'He may be a real contender for this position should he
abandon his supposed obediance to white liberal doctrine
of non-violence...and embrace black nationalism'
'Through counter-intelligence it should be possible to
pinpoint potential trouble-makers...And neutralize them,
neutralize them, neutralize them'

Wake up! Wake up! Wake up! Wake up!
Wake up! Wake up! Wake up! Wake up!

How long? Not long, cause what you reap is what you sow

opinions.

you have to love them!!

opinions are like *******s everyone has em

and so far nobody has **** to discredit what i say so refuse to stand corrected.

- your ****y REemployed psychotic admin

i said i don't suck, then i told you that you know i don't. that discredits what you had to say about me.

i told you that you did. you didn't give reason. we're not playing army here so you give your reasons and then i'll take a shot at shooting you down.
if i don't then you win. if i do then.......well i'll drink a beer to ya :)

*raises her glass*

I'm drinking in a government building. I wonder if that makes it a federal offense

Originally posted by Purity
and so far nobody has **** to discredit what i say so refuse to stand corrected.

- your ****y REemployed psychotic admin

Purity, you back where you had that bull**** happen about the weed charge? How'd all that work out?

that's too much work, i decline your challenge.

i'll just stick with being an attention whore who may or may not suck.

Originally posted by LukeDothSucketh
Purity, you back where you had that bull**** happen about the weed charge? How'd all that work out?

after a lot of legal drama that i care not to share i am happy to report that i just got rehired and am (according to the ncmc v.p.) the first employee to ever be hired, fired, and re-hired within the week timeframe that it happend. it was quite a ride this afternoon.
it is now on like donkey kong :cool:

Originally posted by Purity
after a lot of legal drama that i care not to share i am happy to report that i just got rehired and am (according to the ncmc v.p.) the first employee to ever be hired, fired, and re-hired within the week timeframe that it happend. it was quite a ride this afternoon.
it is now on like donkey kong :cool:

Good job man, glad to hear it.

Originally posted by Purity
it is now on like donkey kong :cool:

Is that a promise? :noangel:

That is good to hear Purity...it is good to be known as being the first in something.

Originally posted by Cesaro
I don't remember who, George Costanza is awesome. Larry David=#1=Curb Your Enthusiasm. KRAZY EYEZ KILLAAAAH.


are you my caucasian?

My penis will be in your mouth by choice.

Originally posted by casp3r
are you my caucasian?

in here we got some floor ****....yeah, floor ****.

Reptiles are tasty...