View Full Version : Randy Couture Vs Fedor Emelianenko
AndersonSilva 03-13-2008, 07:06 PM When this fight happens. Pick who you have winning and explain why.
I have Couture winning this one by Decision. I think he has a good chance He knows how to fight. if it goes to the ground he wont get tapped out like Hong Man Choi. :owned:
Blair_Wells#32 03-13-2008, 07:15 PM Randy Couture, but i think its very possible for him 2 stop Fedor in the Cage by Ground And Pound, if he can pin Fedor against the cage with his head against the cage there is nowhere for Fedor 2 move.
Couture by TKO.
AndersonSilva 03-13-2008, 07:22 PM Randy has some crazy good control standing up. Watch his fight with Gonzaga .... people who dont beleve me
2swell k-wells 03-13-2008, 07:26 PM Randy has some crazy good control standing up. Watch his fight with Gonzaga .... people who dont beleve me
I think everyone here watched that fight already lilD, no need to tell peeps to watch. He's proven his standup against big Tim also.
Nodogoshi 03-13-2008, 08:23 PM I think Fedor would destroy him. Its a big money fight, and definatly a good cap on Randy's career, but I really don't think he'd be able to handle what Fedor brings. Stylistically speaking Randy is not an easy match up for Fedor, but I think he'd end it within a couple rounds. I'd be rooting for Randy though.
Fedor would destroy him, I swear I wish Randy would come back to Nogeiura cud smash him
AndersonSilva 03-14-2008, 12:47 AM haha yeah right Big Nog has a gas tank that will last 2 Minutes then he is done.^^^^^
Biggus Dickus 03-14-2008, 02:39 AM Fedor by submission, quite possibly off his back. Fedor is just too slick for Randy overall, I can't see any area that Randy has an advantage other than wrestling. If Randy could use dirty boxing then maybe but Fedor is so adaptable, I can't see him losing to Randy.
2swell k-wells 03-14-2008, 03:26 AM Somone has to tell Randy that it takes too belly2back suplexes to finish Fedor....Randleman didnt know this and the turd only did one.
number6 03-14-2008, 08:12 AM This is a hard battle, Randy has the tools to take a decision.
But i feel Fedor would secure a submission, maybe in the 2nd round.
haha yeah right Big Nog has a gas tank that will last 2 Minutes then he is done.^^^^^
The only reason Nog ever dropped out of the #1 HW in the world spot is because Fedor showed up on the scene. Show some respect *****, Nog is a warrior....
Silencers 03-14-2008, 11:48 AM Fedor by submission in round 3.
2swell k-wells 03-14-2008, 04:17 PM I dont see Fedor subing Couture...not in a million years. That'd be a heartbreaker right there. I'd be drunk if it happend so its all good.
Palma 03-14-2008, 06:03 PM Fedor is too fast, strong and versatile for Randy to handle. the fight would be over in the second round.
2swell k-wells 03-14-2008, 06:44 PM Fedor is too fast, strong and versatile for Randy to handle. the fight would be over in the second round.
say whaaaat? Couture with that Raslin background would overpower fedor no matter what his age is at the time. Couture would seem....a lil bit more aggressive in the grappling game.
Nodogoshi 03-14-2008, 06:47 PM I dont see Fedor subing Couture...not in a million years. That'd be a heartbreaker right there. I'd be drunk if it happend so its all good.
Well, Randy has been cleanly subbed 3 times, and Fedor has made a habbit of submitting top wrestlers (Mark Coleman x2, Matt Lindland, Kevin Randleman, Kazuyuki Fujita) so I'd say its a very likely senario.
Liaison 03-14-2008, 06:54 PM Standing up, Fedor’s got great in and out speed, controls the ranges really well and throws those unorthodox Naseem Hamed-esq looping punches similar to what Chuck used to catch Randy out.
Fedor should prove sound in the clinch range and if he were to be taken down, he’s shown he can fight well off his back, something Randy still can’t do.
Ok, Fedor does cut easily and the Hunt/Fujita fights prove he’s beatable but Fedor’s combination of unpredictable striking, acceleration/movement and all round grappling skills should give Fedor an easy decision verdict if it were to happen...
Blair_Wells#32 03-14-2008, 07:16 PM really, after randy taking one of the best submission fighters in the world 2 a draw, u think Fedor would catch him???
TheGreatA 03-14-2008, 07:27 PM "Jacare" is 30-40 lbs smaller though...
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Blair_Wells#32 03-14-2008, 07:33 PM yes, but his ground game is lightyears ahead of Fedor's.
AndersonSilva 03-14-2008, 08:39 PM The only reason Nog ever dropped out of the #1 HW in the world spot is because Fedor showed up on the scene. Show some respect *****, Nog is a warrior....
Ehh fuk u cretino:owned:
2swell k-wells 03-14-2008, 11:02 PM You aint owning anybody with comments like that lild.
AndersonSilva 03-14-2008, 11:12 PM lilld lol fuk man i havent dissed u for while how bout we keep it cool.lol
Palma 03-15-2008, 02:35 PM say whaaaat? Couture with that Raslin background would overpower fedor no matter what his age is at the time. Couture would seem....a lil bit more aggressive in the grappling game.
Fedor is the King of Sambo in his country and Sambo (having trained in it myself for 6 years in Warsaw, Poland) has just as much upper body grappling involved in it as Roman Greco (Randy's bread and butter) so I don't really see Randy's "rasslin" background being a factor here.
.Mik. 03-15-2008, 03:48 PM Ok, Fedor does cut easily and the Hunt/Fujita fights prove he’s beatable but Fedor’s combination of unpredictable striking, acceleration/movement and all round grappling skills should give Fedor an easy decision verdict if it were to happen...
See to me, those fights more showed that when Fedor is in a position where it almost seems he will inevitably lose (I think that most people would've lost if they'd had what he took in that fight), he will somehow find a way to win. His resilience is incredible.
yes, but his ground game is lightyears ahead of Fedor's.
At times, strength at application is more important than skill.
phallus 03-17-2008, 10:10 PM fedor is good against wrestlers, but randy's style of rasslin is a little unsual, i've never seen anybody else in MMA that reminds me of randy. i could see either man winning this one
jackmcmanus21 03-18-2008, 11:22 AM If everything was neutral, I'd say Fedor by decision. There are so many variables though like where the fight will take place (Russia, USA, Neutral) and if its going to be in a cage or ring. Cage definitely favors Couture's ground control.
2swell k-wells 03-18-2008, 06:19 PM If everything was neutral, I'd say Fedor by decision. There are so many variables though like where the fight will take place (Russia, USA, Neutral) and if its going to be in a cage or ring. Cage definitely favors Couture's ground control.
It should take place in canada:canada:
Blair_Wells#32 03-18-2008, 09:53 PM Speaking to MFC M-1, Randy Couture reiterated his confidence that he will face Fedor Emelianenko in the near future; though he specified in no uncertain terms that he will not be facing the consensus number 1 heavyweight inside of a UFC octagon.
"I care at this point that it's not in the UFC," Couture said. "But outside of that, I don't care where it happens so long as it happens."
It is uncertain where the fight could end up taking place at this time; but according to sources close to the situation, the newly formed DREAM promotion appears to be the most likely destination for the super fight to take place if it happens outside of the UFC, which remains a viable destination. Couture appears open to fighting abroad mentioning the U.S. as the second strongest MMA market outside of Tokyo.
"I prefer to fight here in the U.S.," Couture said. "It's where I'm comfortable. For all the marketing reasons, this is the strongest market for the sport probably outside of Tokyo... but wherever it happens, it happens."
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This fight looks like its goin2 happen under Fedor and his managers terms in japan an in a ring.
:nonono: don't like the ring, or the yellow card system. goin 2 b hard for Randy 2 get his ground an pound in.
$ LegenD $ 03-18-2008, 10:34 PM im going with randy.....i see him landing that crushing right that put big robot down and will pound away on fedor until big john stops it.......can not freakin wait for this one.....
Blair_Wells#32 03-18-2008, 11:28 PM Couture by Decision in the ring, TKO in the Cage.
Atnan 03-19-2008, 10:07 AM you guys are crazy if you think couture is going to take this by decision...lol fedor get dominated??? LOL...you guys havent honestly watched any of his fights! fedor never lost 1 single round to any of the fighters hes faced in mma-
randy thinks his clinch is going to win him this fight, lol hes wrong....fedor is going to hiptoss randy right into the Old Home! randy gets taken down, pounded out untill he gives up position and submitted! fedor will not be beaten by the Randy!
i will literally bet all my points on fedor if anyone wants to take it?
Blair_Wells#32 03-19-2008, 12:37 PM 31K hmm if i still have my points by the time this fight happens your on.
and yes i have seen all of Fedor's fights and i believe Randy could beat him, his stand up is better then Fedors, better head movement works his jabs an i think he can drop Fedor like he did Sylvia.
Randy's wrestling is better an can take Fedor down.
and his sub defence is better then alot of the fighters that Fedor's fought b4 so yeah if Randy don't put Fedor away with Ground And Pound then i think he can Dominate Fedor for a Decision.
Savino 03-19-2008, 01:03 PM I have only ever seen Fedor fight twice and he really impressed me but I seriously think Randy would win in the cage. I hope this fight does come off and it is in the UFC.
Atnan 03-19-2008, 01:08 PM 31K hmm if i still have my points by the time this fight happens your on.
and yes i have seen all of Fedor's fights and i believe Randy could beat him, his stand up is better then Fedors, better head movement works his jabs an i think he can drop Fedor like he did Sylvia.
Randy's wrestling is better an can take Fedor down.
and his sub defence is better then alot of the fighters that Fedor's fought b4 so yeah if Randy don't put Fedor away with Ground And Pound then i think he can Dominate Fedor for a Decision.
randy having better stand up? Randy GnP`ing Fedor? Randy better wrestling? LOLOLOLOLOL
wow...they said the same thing about Mark Coleman (except for the sub defense)....im not going to even try anymore- were going to have to wait and see!
Blair_Wells#32 03-19-2008, 01:50 PM name one person Fedors hurt on his feet.. and u can't compare coleman 2 Randy, couture is a hell of alot better in mma.
Nodogoshi 03-19-2008, 03:45 PM you guys are crazy if you think couture is going to take this by decision...lol fedor get dominated??? LOL...you guys havent honestly watched any of his fights! fedor never lost 1 single round to any of the fighters hes faced in mma-
randy thinks his clinch is going to win him this fight, lol hes wrong....fedor is going to hiptoss randy right into the Old Home! randy gets taken down, pounded out untill he gives up position and submitted! fedor will not be beaten by the Randy!
i will literally bet all my points on fedor if anyone wants to take it?
I mostly agree, except I have to say Randy is without question the superior wrestler. Randy was an olympic alternate in Grecco, and I vbelieve an NCAA champ as well, plus he's coached on D-1 staffs as well. Fedor is the better all around fighter and may be better in virtually every area except wrestling, but if there is one thing Randy does have in this fight it's his clinch, superior takedowns, and ground control. Will it be enough? I doubt it, but Couture will have his moments.
And as for your last comment about Coleman, Coleman clearly showed superior wrestling in both of their fights, but was unable to deal with Fedor's submissions from his back. Even the smaller Matt Lindland took Fedor down (and so did Kevin Randleman). These fights have shown that Fedor cannot stop takedowns from elite wrestlers.. they've also shown that elite wrestlers have not been able to deal with Fedor's submission prowess.
One more thing, myself and others have commented on Randy's age as being a detriment come fight time. I believe this to be valid, but its also important to realize that by the time this fight comes, Randy will have been training to fight Fedor for over a year, meaning he will have time to completly breakdown Fedor's style, bring in former Fedor opponents/training partners, etc. This could possibly be the edge which would give Randy the victory (I've still got Fedor, for the record).
2swell k-wells 03-19-2008, 05:26 PM **** Fedor, im getting sick of this guy not fighting and when he does he doesnt fight a top 10 HW. I used to like the guy when he was in Pride, heard alot about him then decided to watch and he was one of the best I've seen. But as you all know I lost respect for him awhile ago when he started fighting tomato cans. This guy aint with M-1 anymore, he wants too much money...whatever happend to fighters just wanting to fight for the love of the sport...so much for that since our so-called best is only interested in the ****ing money. This is my list for Top 5 HW's in the world at the moment.
Randy Couture (wants and has fought the best)
Big Nog (current UFC HW Champ)
Fedor (will move back up when he fights someone other than tomato can)
Andre Arlovski (3 fight win streak..underrated)
Tim Sylvia (hurts to write this)
Go on and hate, i dont give a ****...just telling it how it is.
Spare Moody 03-19-2008, 11:01 PM Fedor's latest response:
Numerous times have I read mister White’s statements on Internet concerning myself. In my opinion, allowing yourself to say those things is not a sign of a gentleman or a grown man at all! If he candidly wants to prove himself right then let my fight with Randy happen or let me face the reigning UFC champion Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira. In the future I wouldn’t want to hear those statements in my address ever again and I won’t tolerate that.
My last fight in Japan proved that I’m ready to fight anybody with any height advantage, skillset or experience. I have fought and still wish to fight the best athletes. The Randy fight is my goal number one right now, he’s a great fighter and this is a very unfortunate situation when too strict and one-sided UFC contracts don’t let this fight happen.
The whole world is eager to see me fight your champions, people don’t want to listen to your press-conferences. I’m signed with M-1 Global and this promotion is ready to organize such fights under our banner or in co-promoted events.
Atnan 03-20-2008, 01:05 PM I mostly agree, except I have to say Randy is without question the superior wrestler. Randy was an Olympic alternate in Grecian, and I believe an NCAA champ as well, plus he's coached on D-1 staffs as well. Fedor is the better all around fighter and may be better in virtually every area except wrestling, but if there is one thing Randy does have in this fight it's his clinch, superior take downs, and ground control. Will it be enough? I doubt it, but Couture will have his moments.
And as for your last comment about Coleman, Coleman clearly showed superior wrestling in both of their fights, but was unable to deal with Fedor's submissions from his back. Even the smaller Matt Lindland took Fedor down (and so did Kevin Randleman). These fights have shown that Fedor cannot stop take downs from elite wrestlers.. they've also shown that elite wrestlers have not been able to deal with Fedor's submission prowess.
One more thing, myself and others have commented on Randy's age as being a detriment come fight time. I believe this to be valid, but its also important to realize that by the time this fight comes, Randy will have been training to fight Fedor for over a year, meaning he will have time to completely breakdown Fedor's style, bring in former Fedor opponents/training partners, etc. This could possibly be the edge which would give Randy the victory (I've still got Fedor, for the record).
i agree with everything you said- i just didn't want to go too into detail because most people here doesn't listen to reasoning- let alone watch any mma outside wec/ufc! You had a few holes in your statement that ill address!
My only issue with Fedor and wrestlers is that i don't think fedor NEEDS to keep it standing- getting taken down doesn't mean much when you think about it (in Fedor`s case)...where ever the fight goes, fedor is prepared and always prevails....you cant hide from him!
Greco is all about upper body take downs, Fedor is a Judo/Sambo Champion which is primarily clinch/upper body grappling! Lindland is just as good/if not better than randy at greco and he COULDN'T take Fedor down ( I don't no why you said lindland took down fedor when he clearly didnt..fedor reversed his hips and landed on top of him)....more traditional wrestlers such as coleman/randleman took him down with single shots- also with randleman, he sweeped - got side moutn and then submitted which proves hes insanely dangerous from the top or the bottom (he also sweeped the number rated BJJ heavyweight in mma, Nog, the ufc champ himself quite easily last time he was on top....also sweeped hunt who had a HUGE HUGE weight advantage and put him in an arm bar)
Randy really has a slight chance of winning this fight! Hes never faced anyone like Fedor, let along any real top 5-10 HW ( i never considered timmy a top 10 HW)...i feel sorry because Randy is such a great guy and inspiration to everyone!
the traveler 03-24-2008, 01:03 PM I'm going to call this right now: Fedor will sign with the UFC and lose his first fight.
Submission.
madskills 03-24-2008, 04:10 PM Fedor will destroy anybody in the UFC, really. The only guy who might give him problems is Frank Mir thats it.
2swell k-wells 03-24-2008, 06:38 PM I'm going to call this right now: Fedor will sign with the UFC and lose his first fight.
Submission.
I like the way you think
AndersonSilva 03-24-2008, 10:46 PM Fedor will destroy anybody in the UFC, really. The only guy who might give him problems is Frank Mir thats it.
haha yeah rite frank mir is horrible standing up shyt. he got wrecked by brock lesnar standin n u think he wud give fedor probs standin get off the crack:owned:
2swell k-wells 03-25-2008, 12:03 AM haha yeah rite frank mir is horrible standing up shyt. he got wrecked by brock lesnar standin n u think he wud give fedor probs standin get off the crack:owned:
He never mentioned anything about Mir beating him in standup did he? No
Get off the ****.:blowjob:
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