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DR. FREECLOUD 10-27-2004, 01:47 PM October 20, 2004
Editorial, “Voter Frauds On The Left,” The Washington Times
Since the 2000 election, it has become an article of faith for the Democratic Party and its allies on the
political left that George W. Bush won by suppressing the black vote in Florida and elsewhere.
John Kerry and Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe have made numerous
speeches declaring that Democrats must remain vigilant against a repeat of such Republican chicanery.
People For the American Way, New York Times columnists Bob Herbert and Paul Krugman and some
members of the Congressional Black Caucus have been recycling a false story suggesting that Florida Gov.
Jeb Bush has dispatched state police to the homes of elderly blacks in an effort to discourage them from
voting. DNC officials have produced a manual urging party members to publicly challenge Republican
efforts to "intimidate" voters even if there is no evidence that intimidation is taking place.
Meanwhile, America Votes, a 32-member coalition of anti-Bush organizations -- led by such groups as
George Soros' MoveOn.org, America Coming Together and the American Federation of State, County
and Municipal Employees -- is spending $100 million on a campaign that voting officials say has resulted
in a massive increase in voters nationwide. The aim of this door-to-door voter-registration drive is to
identify undecided and potential Democratic voters in Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania and 11 other
battleground states.
One member of the coalition, a left-wing activist group known as the Association of Community
Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), claims to have registered 1 million new voters since July 2003.
The problem is that at least some of these were fraudulently registered. ACORN's western regional
director acknowledged in an interview with this newspaper that several hundred of those new registrants in
Colorado were fraudulent, but sought to downplay the problem with the explanation that registration fraud is different from voter fraud: "Just because you register someone 35 times doesn't mean they get to
vote 35 times."
Not everyone finds this reassuring. Authorities in several states are investigating whether thousands of
voter registrations have been fraudulently submitted -- many of them by members of the America Votes
coalition. In Florida, the Justice Department and state authorities are investigating charges by a former
ACORN field director that workers for the organization routinely withheld Republican voter registrations,
while thousands of invalid voter registration cards were submitted in their place.
Regarding the 2000 election, allegations of mass voter intimidation and suppression in Florida were
determined to be unfounded by the U.S. Civil Rights Commission, which spent six months investigating
the charges. In recent months, Messrs. Herbert and Krugman of the New York Times have given
extensive publicity to charges that members of the Florida state police tried to intimidate black voters
while investigating fraud in the Orlando mayoral election this year. After conducting his own investigation
of the charges, Jeffrey Billman, a columnist for the liberal Orlando Weekly newspaper, pronounced them
"bull--." Saying they were part of a legitimate investigation into whether one of the candidates manipulated
absentee ballots.
Thus far, the evidence suggests that the Bush-bashers are the people engaged in political chicanery when it
comes to the question of voting rights.
DR. FREECLOUD 10-27-2004, 01:47 PM October 20, 2004
Jerry Seper, “Soros-Supported Voter-Registration Drive Probed,” The Washington Times
Billionaire currency trader George Soros, in his quest to unseat President Bush, has given millions of
dollars to a coalition of anti-Bush organizations whose nationwide voter-registration drive has been
targeted by state and federal authorities for possible widespread fraud.
Working under an umbrella organization known as America Votes, the coalition's registration drive --
described by election officials as the largest in U.S. history -- focused on potential voters in 14 so-called
battleground states.
America Votes, which represents a collection of labor unions, trial lawyers, environmental groups and
community organizations representing 20 million Americans, describes itself as a "nonpartisan political
organization" that seeks to use the strategic abilities and large membership base of its coalition members to
"break new ground in electoral politics."
Its goal is to "register, educate and mobilize" voters for this year's elections, but some of those efforts are
now being challenged.
Hundreds of questionable voter-registration applications, such as duplicates, and accusations of workers
shredding registrations in favor of one party are under review by local, state and federal law-enforcement
and election authorities in Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada, Missouri, Michigan, Minnesota, West Virginia,
Oregon, Ohio, Arizona, Pennsylvania and Florida.
The coalition spent more than $100 million on its voter-registration campaign, according to financial
records and several people familiar with the member organizations. Despite its nonpartisan claim, its
membership includes 32 groups committed to Mr. Bush's defeat.
Cecile Richards, a veteran labor and political organizer, is the coalition's president. Before coming to
America Votes, she served as deputy chief of staff to House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, California
Democrat.
"The launch of America Votes is a groundbreaking endeavor in American politics," she said. "We look
forward to working together to reach out to voters and to talk about the issues that are important to
Americans. America Votes is going to make an historic impact on the political process in this country."
As a key contributor to the coalition, Mr. Soros, whose estimated net worth is $7 billion, is on a one-month
speaking tour in several battleground states, where he has taken Mr. Bush to task for what he called
"missteps" in the war in Iraq.
Mr. Soros has described the Nov. 2 elections and the defeat of Mr. Bush as "the central focus of my life."
To that end, he has routed millions of dollars to coalition members, key among which are MoveOn.org, an
anti-Bush Internet-based advocacy group, and America Coming Together (ACT), which is dedicated to
get-out-the-vote activities for Democratic candidates, particularly this year.
Coalition members are using thousands of paid workers and volunteers, armed with bar-coded
identification sheets, to target undecided and potential Democratic voters door to door, and at shopping
centers, grocery stores, street festivals, sporting events, naturalization ceremonies and hip-hop concerts
from coast to coast.
The America Votes registration drive has been the beneficiary of millions of Soros dollars, and records
show two coalition members, MoveOn.org and ACT, have accounted for nearly $15 million alone in cash
contributions from Mr. Soros and his business partner, Peter Lewis.
Both MoveOn.org and ACT are 527 tax-exempt organizations, allowed to take part in political campaigns
and register voters.
MoveOn.org, which claims 2.3 million members, received significant financial help from Mr. Soros and
Mr. Lewis, who pledged a $5 million matching grant last November -- a dollar for every two raised by
MoveOn.org members -- to put together a $15 million war chest to defeat Mr. Bush.
The organization was begun in 1998 by Joan Blades and Wes Boyd, two Silicon Valley entrepreneurs, who
organized an Internet-based advocacy group to protest the "waste of tax dollars" in the impeachment of
President Clinton, calling for the country to "move on to more pressing issues facing the nation."
Later, MoveOn.org vigorously opposed U.S. intervention in Iraq, a position that drew the attention of Mr.
Soros.
MoveOn.org ran an ad largely funded by anti-war Democrats that accused Mr. Bush of lying to get the
United States into war with Iraq and blaming him for 1,000 American deaths there as well as a $150 billion
price tag.
The ad included an image of a U.S. soldier sinking in desert sand as he tried to keep his rifle above his
head.
DR. FREECLOUD 10-27-2004, 01:48 PM In 2002, Mr. Boyd and Mrs. Blades hired a computer programmer, Zack Exley, as MoveOn.org's
organizing director. During the 2000 presidential campaign, Mr. Exley had programmed GWBush.com, a
Web page that featured doctored photographs portraying Mr. Bush as a drug addict.
ACT was founded in August 2003 when Mr. Soros announced he was giving $10 million to the
organization to ensure that Mr. Bush was not re-elected. At the time, he called ACT "an effective way to
mobilize civil society, to convince people to go to the polls and vote for candidates who will reassert the
values of the greatest open society in the world."
The District-based organization has since raised more than $50 million to defeat Mr. Bush, and has been
active in the America Votes registration campaign. It hired a staff of about 1,500 canvassers, paying them
$12 an hour to go door to door in battleground states to register voters.
ACT is headed by Ellen R. Malcolm, who also organized Emily's List, a pro-choice political action
network, and Steve Rosenthal, who served as deputy political adviser to the Democratic National
Committee, chief adviser to Labor Secretary Robert Reich during the Clinton administration and political
director at the AFL-CIO.
Mrs. Malcolm told The Washington Post that the Soros donation was "like getting his Good
Housekeeping Seal of Approval."
Mr. Rosenthal also is executive director of Partnership for America's Families (PAF), a political action
committee financed with $20 million from labor unions and as much as $10 million from individual, pro-Democratic
donors. PAF also is a member of the America Votes coalition.
The battleground states -- Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Maine, Minnesota, Missouri, New Hampshire, Nevada,
New Mexico, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, West Virginia and Wisconsin -- can deliver 145 Electoral
College votes, with 270 needed to win.
October 19, 2004
Terrence Scanlon, Op-Ed, “Democratic Deception,” The Washington Times
Newspapers are reporting an incredible surge in new voter registrations this year. Democratic and
Republican activists have sponsored registration drives in the hope that millions of new voters will elect
John Kerry or George W. Bush president. Voter offices are swamped with thousands of last-minute
registrations.
That makes the possibility of voter fraud very real. Increasingly, reports of fake and forged voter
registration cards are surfacing across the nation, and they are prompting official investigations into voter
drives. One group in particular has come under scrutiny. ACORN -- it stands for Association of
Community Organizations for Reform Now -- has received wide attention for claiming to have registered
more than 1 million new voters nationwide. But in state after state, allegations are surfacing that ACORN
activists are padding the registration books.
In Colorado, hundreds of voter registration forms are suspect. On Oct. 12, Denver television station
KUSA reported that one woman admitted to forging three people's names on 40 registration forms to help
her boyfriend earn an extra $50 from ACORN. According to the Associated Press, she also signed herself
up to vote 25 times.
Police in Duluth, Minn., stopped a 19-year-old motorist for running a stop sign and discovered 300 voter
registration cards in the trunk of his car. According an Oct. 8 article in the St. Paul Pioneer Press, the
driver, an ex-ACORN employee, admitted the cards were there for weeks and months. ACORN says it
paid the canvasser $1 per registration and fired him because it suspected he was registering voters twice to
double his fee. The Associated Press reports that ACORN claims to have registered 36,000 new voters in
Minnesota.
An Oct. 8 report in the Cincinnati Inquirer says Hamilton County officials subpoenaed 19 voter
registration cards turned in by ACORN with similar handwriting and false addresses. In Columbus, Ohio,
officials discovered dozens of faked names on voter cards and have indicted one ACORN worker.
ACORN says it has registered 158,000 new voters in Ohio and 26,000 in Cincinnati/Hamilton County.
A Sept. 26 New York Times county-by-county analysis of heavily Democratic areas in Ohio (mainly low-income
and minority neighborhoods) finds that new registrations since January are up by 250 percent
compared to registrations during the same period in 2000. In Florida, the increase over 2000 is 60 percent
in Democratic areas --compared to just 12 percent in heavily Republican areas.
In the battleground state of Florida, ACORN claims to have registered 212,000 voters for the general
election. But one of them was the mayor of St. Petersburg who received a letter telling him he was
ineligible to vote because his registration form was not turned in on time. Mayor Charles Schuh discovered
someone from ACORN had fraudulently submitted his name, reports an Oct. 4 article in the St.
Petersburg Times. The Palm Beach Post reported on Oct. 8 that ACORN is also under state and federal
investigation in Miami-Dade County for unlawfully registering former felons to vote. (In New Orleans,
ACORN registered 700 new voters at the jailhouse by signing up prisoners awaiting trial but not yet found
guilty of a crime.) An ACORN worker registered a 13-year-old to vote in Albuquerque, N.M.
"There's a lot of fraud committed," said former ACORN Miami-Dade field director Mac Stuart in the Oct.
2 Florida Today. He charges that ACORN submitted thousands of invalid registration cards while failing
to turn in cards from registered Republicans.
ACORN's principal activity is not voter registration. With some 150,000 dues-paying members organized
into 65 city chapters, the group is better known for public disruption. For more than 30 years its
"community organizing" has relied on in-your-face confrontation. In 1995, ACORN famously bused in
500 protesters to disrupt a Washington, D.C. speech by House Speaker Newt Gingrich. In 2002, it burst
into the Heritage Foundation to harangue welfare-reform expert Robert Rector. Dozen of city councils
and state legislatures have had to face angry ACORN protesters demanding higher minimum wages and
more welfare entitlements. Banks have been pressured to change their lending practices or face ACORN
charges of discrimination before regulators.
ACORN's founder and chief organizer is one Wade Rathke, a veteran activist who is also president of the
New Orleans-based Local 100 of the Service Employees International Union. More importantly, Mr.
Rathke is chairman of the board of the San Francisco-based Tides Center and a board member of its
affiliated Tides Foundation, the left-wing grantmaker that specializes in helping new political advocacy
groups get organized. Grants from the Heinz Endowments, whose chairman is Teresa Heinz Kerry, to and
from the Tides organizations have been the subject of major news stories recently, which speculate on the
impact Mrs. Heinz Kerry's private philanthropy will have on the policies of a Kerry administration. The
Tides connection to ACORN raises even more questions.
DR. FREECLOUD 10-27-2004, 01:49 PM Clearly, the 2000 election cliffhanger rankles leftist activists. It's no wonder they are determined to change
the results in 2004. But will groups like ACORN play fair, and if they don't will they be caught in time?
October 19, 2004
John O'Sullivan, Op-Ed, “Democrats Prefer Exploiting Voter Fraud,” Chicago Sun-Times
Here's the first question for your U.S. election night fun quiz as you wait impatiently for the early results:
Which candidate would the Sept. 11 terrorists be voting for if they had survived their own attacks on the
Pentagon and the World Trade Center?
You think that an unfair question? Not really. Eight of the 19 hijackers could have registered to vote in
Virginia and Florida while they were planning their attacks. They were not U.S. citizens, admittedly. They
were not even in America legally, having over-stayed their visas. And they certainly did not have the best
interests of the nation at heart.
But they could have turned up at the voting booth on Nov. 2 --and it would have been an offense in 33
states for anyone to ask for evidence either of their identity or of their citizenship. If an election official
had done so, lawyers for the Democratic National Committee, activist groups for the poor, La Raza, and
the media would have been crying ''voter suppression'' and demanding the official be punished. And
nothing unusual would have happened.
In recent years voter fraud has been a major problem. It has got ten steadily worse since President Bill
Clinton signed the ''Motor Voter'' Act that made voter registration virtually automatic while removing
most safeguards against electoral fraud. According to Karen Saranita of the Institute for Fair Elections in
California, people have registered their dogs and cats to vote. Illegal immigrants have cast votes in large
numbers.
But the sheer scale of fraud in recent years has revived interest. Two new books dealing with it -- Stealing
Elections: How Voter Fraud Threatens Our Democracy (Encounter Books) by John Fund of the Wall
Street Journal, and If It's Not Close, They Can't Cheat (Nelson Books) by Hugh Hewitt, the talk show
host -- have been published. And there are several Web sites that are keeping a careful check of reports of
voter fraud around the country. Bill Hobbs of Hobbsonline.com currently lists 54 instances of suspected
voter fraud from Ohio to Colorado.
What emerges from their research is that voter fraud is both easy to commit -- and easy to stop. Voter
fraud consists of several very simple deceptions:
1. Non-citizens or illegal immigrants voting when they are legally ineligible to do so.
2. Eligible voters voting twice or more, some by registering as themselves in several districts, others by
impersonating other voters.
3. Registering nonexistent voters, e.g., the dead, and sending others to the polls in their name.
4. Tampering with the ballot boxes, destroying votes and inserting false votes between the polling and the
counting.
Most of these frauds could be prevented by two simple reforms: requiring all potential voters to present
evidence of their identity and evidence of their citizenship before being given a ballot paper.
But these reforms are not passed -- and ''reforms'' to make fraud easier to commit and harder to prevent
are passed. It is considered poor political etiquette to explain this apparent perversity. But the reason is
that voter fraud disproportionately benefits Democrats and their political allies in left wing activist groups
and ethnic lobbies.
The Democrats believe that illegal immigrants, non-citizens, citizens who lack enough interest in politics to
register, and even convicted felons ineligible to vote are likely to be in their column. So on Election Day
the cry goes out from the local Democrat HQ: ''Round up the usual suspects -- and drive them to the
voting booth.''
Hence, whenever any attempt to expose or halt voter fraud is attempted, someone like Maria Cardona of
the Democratic National Committee will step forward to claim that ''ballot security and preventing voter
fraud are just code words for voter intimidation and suppression.'' A civil rights leader will throw in a
reference to Jim Crow. A spokesman for La Raza will add that asking for evidence of citizenship
discriminates against Hispanic citizens. And a federal judge will rule that any disputed votes should be
counted first and maybe examined later.
Last week the Kerry-Edwards campaign went a step further and suggested that local Democrats should
''launch a preemptive strike'' and allege that the GOP was practicing voter intimidation even if neither
voter fraud nor voter intimidation were being alleged by anyone. This cynicism is a harbinger of things to
come.
The Democrats are said to have 10,000 lawyers already stationed around the nation to handle these battles
over fraud and intimidation. (The Republicans have almost as many.) If Nov. 2 is another cliff-hanger,
then every close state result will be thrown to the courts to decide. And unless Congress passes the simple
reforms suggested above to restore honest elections, that would result not in democracy but simply in a
more sophisticated version of voter fraud.
My first question, incidentally, may have been inaccurately phrased. Given that one of the most common
techniques of voter fraud is to cast votes on behalf of the dead, maybe I should have written: Which
candidate will the Sept. 11 terrorists be voting for on Nov. 2?
And I think I can guess how they will vote.
October 18, 2004
James Dao, “As Election Nears, Parties Begin Another Round Of Legal Battles,”
The New York Times
As the secretary of state of Ohio, J. Kenneth Blackwell, a Republican who is unabashed about his ambition
to be governor, has issued a series of rulings on obscure issues like provisional ballots, voting notices to
parolees and the weight of registration forms.
To Democrats, who say he has repeatedly tried to disenfranchise Democratic voters with those rulings,
Mr. Blackwell is reminiscent of Katherine Harris, the Florida secretary of state who made her name in the chaotic election of 2000. On Friday they challenged him again, filing suit to block a directive they say will
require election workers to reject thousands of registrations by first-time Democratic voters.
But Mr. Blackwell's aides say he has been scrupulously evenhanded in his efforts to guard the integrity of
voting in this crucial swing state. Each of his directives has followed Ohio law, they say, and most have
been guided by one unassailable goal: to prevent fraud. The charges against him, they say, are baseless and
political.
The legal combat in Ohio over the fundamental issue of who can vote is recurring in virtually every
battleground state this year, in what experts say is fast becoming, in its final weeks, the most litigious,
lawyer-fraught election in history.
The two sides have been mobilizing for months, but in recent days the battle has been joined on a number
of fronts. In New Mexico, Republicans unsuccessfully sued the Democratic secretary of state to require
that most new voters show identification at the polls. In Florida, Democrats have filed 10 election lawsuits
against Republican officials. In Pennsylvania, plans by the Democratic governor to have state workers help
monitor the election have stirred Republican suspicions. In Colorado, the Republican secretary of state has
accused the Democratic attorney general of not aggressively investigating registration fraud.
The clashes have followed a familiar script. Republicans, long suspicious of urban political machines and
worried about record levels of new registrations in many swing states, say Democrats have abetted fraud.
Democrats, who cite a bitter history of efforts to deny minority and low-income voters the ballot, contend
that Republicans are trying to suppress the vote. But thanks to the election of 2000, the attacks this year
have been fiercer and the legal mobilization larger than ever, experts say.
''People are determined not to repeat history,'' said Doug Chapin, director of Electionline.org, a
nonpartisan research organization. ''The unofficial theme song of this year's election seems to be the
Who's 'Won't Get Fooled Again.'''
This week was typical. In Milwaukee, the Democratic mayor requested additional ballots to handle a tide
of new voters, but the Republican county executive initially refused, citing concerns about fraud. (The
executive later relented.) But prosecutors in Racine, Wis., are now investigating reports of dubious
registrations.
Black and Hispanic Republicans criticized a Democratic National Committee handbook found in
Colorado. It included a section encouraging Democrats to mount ''pre-emptive strikes'' against
Republicans using press releases raising concerns about potential voter intimidation, even if none was
detected.
''What that means in clear language is, if there is no evidence of intimidation, which we don't expect there
will be because we're not going to engage in it, then make it up and talk about it anyway,'' said Michael
Williams, a Republican railroad commissioner from Texas who is black.
Democrats said the manual simply instructed party workers to publicize the threat of intimidation. And
then, as if following their own advice, they took the offensive on the issue.
''For decades, Republicans have engaged in systematic voter suppression and intimidation, from throwing
minorities off the voter rolls to ripping up Democratic voter registrations,'' said Jano Cabrera, a
spokesman for the Democratic National Committee. ''We make no apologies for fighting these tactics by
exposing the dirty tricks when they happen.''
DR. FREECLOUD 10-27-2004, 01:50 PM Some of the maneuvering is clearly political spin designed to energize party loyalists while assuring fence-sitting
voters that their ballots will count. ''This is as much an organizing tool as a legal tool,'' Mr. Chapin
said.
But the legal preparations are very real -- and very large. With more than two weeks to go before polls
open, lawyers recruited by the two parties and independent groups have begun flooding into Ohio,
Florida, Pennsylvania and other swing states. Already, those lawyers are preparing strategies to challenge
new voters at the polls, to keep polling stations open late if lines are long and to demand recounts if
victory margins are razor-thin.
The unparalleled preparations are being fueled not only by memories of 2000, but also by a huge surge in
voter registration in swing states -- much of it in predominantly Democratic areas. Republicans contend
that many of those new registrations are fraudulent, saying thousands of forms submitted by independent
groups like Acorn and America Coming Together may have been falsified.
Ohio has emerged as an epicenter for the mobilization. Registration in the state has soared to a record 7.8
million voters, an increase of 700,000 since the beginning of the year. Republicans say about 60 percent of
those new registrations are Democratic voters.
With so many new voters, Republicans plan to scrutinize the use of ''provisional ballots,'' which are given
to voters whose names do not appear on the rolls, and challenge people whose registrations seem suspect
or who have not voted in recent elections. Though Democrats say those challenges will be used to frighten
Democrats, Republicans say they will be used judicially.
''How is it intimidating?'' asked Robert T. Bennett, chairman of the Ohio Republican Party. ''Why don't we
call it voter honesty?''
Republicans say they have established the most extensive legal operation in their history, recruiting
thousands of lawyers to help monitor 30,000 precincts in battleground states. The Bush campaign is also
invoking the battle of Florida in 2000 to raise money for potential recount campaigns in swing states.
''This year, I am concerned about similar efforts by those who would try to adjust the outcome of the
election after the polls have closed,'' Tom Josefiak, general counsel to the Bush-Cheney campaign, wrote in
a recent fund-raising letter. ''This year we may face similar fights not just in Florida, but in Ohio, Michigan,
Wisconsin, New Mexico and other critical states.''
Grant Lally, a Republican lawyer from Mineola, N.Y., says he plans to ''deploy'' next week to Ohio, where
he will dispense advice on federal law to local lawyers via cellphone and e-mail from a Bush campaign
command center.
''The level of organization this year is exponentially greater than in 2000,'' Mr. Lally said. ''What you are
seeing this time is both parties organized right down to the precinct level.''
Democrats say they are mobilizing in even greater numbers than the Republicans, having recruited more
than 10,000 lawyers to serve as poll watchers or on legal ''SWAT teams'' in swing states. ''We're talking
about a huge number of interventions to assure that the process works smoothly,'' said Robert Bauer,
national counsel to the Democratic National Committee.
In Ohio, the Democratic legal effort is being run by David Sullivan, on leave from his regular job as
counsel to the Democrats in the Massachusetts State Senate. This week, his team won an important battle
with Mr. Blackwell, the Ohio secretary of state, when a federal judge ruled that voters in the right county
but the wrong precinct could still cast provisional ballots.
Mr. Blackwell has appealed the ruling, saying it will lead to confusion and fraud. Similar Democratic suits
are pending in Colorado, Michigan and Florida.
Mr. Sullivan is also helping to assemble teams of Democratic lawyers who will monitor Republican
activities at hundreds of heavily Democratic polling stations around the state, mainly in urban areas. If
those monitors detect attempts to intimidate voters or slow voting in crowded precincts, they are prepared
to file complaints or to ask judges to keep the polls open late.
Both parties will also be documenting problems that could be used in lawsuits following the election to
dispute results or demand recounts.
Independent groups have also joined the fray. In Cleveland, the president of the local N.A.A.C.P. has
announced plans to recruit 500 lawyers to monitor polling stations in minority neighborhoods.
And a coalition called Election Protection 2004 says it has recruited more than 6,000 lawyers and law
students to monitor Election Day problems nationwide, particularly in minority areas. The group plans to
have a national hot line for election complaints and field offices in 17 states, including one directing 700
lawyers and students in Ohio.
The coalition, started by the People for the American Way Foundation, includes the Lawyers' Committee
for Civil Rights Under Law, the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, the A.F.L.-C.I.O. Voting
Rights Protection Program and an array of minority-rights groups.
Republicans have complained that the coalition is a front organization for the Democrats because the
member groups represent traditionally Democrat constituencies. Coalition members deny that, saying their
work is nonpartisan. The coalition's Web site even advises that donations to its member organizations are
tax-deductible.
''Our concern is communities of color that might be victims of voter disenfranchisement,'' said Sharon
Lettman, the national field director for the coalition. ''One of the atrocities of 2000 was that no one cared
about the millions who were disenfranchised.''
DR. FREECLOUD 10-27-2004, 01:52 PM October 18, 2004
John Fund, Op-Ed, “We May HAVA Problem,” The Wall Street Journal,
http://www.opinionjournal.com/diary/, Accessed 10/18/04
It's a safe bet you will hear more about provisional ballots before Election Day--and a lot more if the
election goes into overtime again. The provisional ballot could become this year's equivalent of Florida's
infamous punch-card ballot, and it could decide who wins the presidency.
This is the first election held under the Help America Vote Act of 2002. One of its key provisions is a
requirement that people in all 50 states whose names aren't on voter registration rolls be given a
provisional, or conditional, ballot that will then be cross-checked with public records after the polls close to see if it is valid. "If I had to pick the one thing that will stir up anger and lawsuits on Election Day, it
will be provisional voting," says Doug Chapin, executive director of the nonpartisan Electionline.org.
With 200,000 polling places nationwide, an average of five provisional votes per precinct would mean a
million such votes. But in a year when manic registration efforts make it likely there will be a flood of first-time
voters, officials expect far more. In Los Angeles County alone more than 100,000 people voted
provisionally in 2000, with about 60% of them ultimately declared valid.
But that's the rub. Democrats are preparing to make aggressive media and legal arguments that almost all
provisional votes must be counted, a reprise of their 2000 Florida rallying cry of "Count every vote."
Yesterday Eric Holder, a top official in Bill Clinton's Justice Department, told "Fox News Sunday" that "if
every vote is allowed to be cast, and if every vote is counted, John Kerry will be president within a day of
that election." Asked how he could guarantee that, Mr. Holder replied "you heard it right here" and
repeated his claim.
This year harried election officials are likely to be overwhelmed by complaining voters. To keep order and
make sure the lines at polling places don't become intolerable, officials will hand anyone not on their lists a
provisional ballot. "All of those will be counted only after everyone's else's ballots have been counted, and
after everyone knows exactly how close the race is," says Mischelle Townsend, a former registrar of
Riverside County, Calif.
It's at that point the lawyers are likely to jump in if there's a close race. DeForest "Buster" Soaries,
chairman of the federal Election Assistance Commission, warns there is a risk poll workers won't be
trained on how to properly handle provisional ballots and that "the manner in which the ballots are
verified could be challenged."
National Journal says the verification process is a potential gold mine for litigators: "Election officials have
to research each provisional ballot to figure out if it's valid. That can take as long as an hour if the voter's
name doesn't quickly turn up--an excruciating amount of time for harried election officials scrambling to
meet tight deadlines." Conny McCormack, the top election official in Los Angeles County, confesses: "It
becomes a competition over what's more important, accuracy or speed." In Florida, state law requires that
provisional ballot certification be completed within two days.
But lawsuits could delay for weeks the final decision in almost any photo-finish race. Take the 35-day delay
in determining the winner of Colorado's Seventh Congressional District in 2002. Republican Bob
Beauprez led Democrat Mike Feeley by only 386 votes on election night, but 3,800 provisional ballots
remained to be examined. Complicating matters further, each of the three counties in the district had
different rules on which ballots should be tossed out and which ones should be counted.
In Colorado, a person voting provisionally had to swear he was qualified to do so and check off a box
indicating a reason for casting a provisional ballot. Clerks in Arapahoe and Adams counties tossed out
ballots in most cases if voters failed to select a reason. Jefferson County printed its own ballot envelopes,
which did not have the same boxes. Officials there counted all qualified provisional ballots, even if the
voter didn't give a reason. Then a state district court judge stepped in and ordered clerks in Arapahoe and
Adams to count every qualified provisional ballot. The legal wrangling didn't end until Dec. 10, 35 days
after the election, when Mr. Beauprez was declared the winner by 121 votes.
Both parties are deploying thousands of lawyers, who will no doubt look at Colorado's experience in
devising their own litigation this year. Postelection suits will no doubt cite U.S. Supreme Court's Bush v. Gore decision, in which the majority of justices ruled it was unfair for Florida counties to apply different
standards during punch card recounts. Expect many more such "equal protection" arguments this time.
A total of 26 states and the District of Columbia require that a provisional ballot be cast in the voter's local
precinct. They include the battleground states of Florida, Michigan and Missouri. Other states, such as
Pennsylvania and Arkansas, will count a voter's choice for president and other national offices even if he
casts his ballot at a different polling station.
Ohio, the most heavily contested swing state in the country, is naturally in the middle of pre-election
litigation over provisional ballots, Last Thursday, federal district judge James Carr overturned longstanding
state law and ruled that Ohio voters may cast provisional ballots even if they are in the wrong precinct. "If
the provisional voting right created by the Help America Vote Act saves but a single vote its purposes will
have been accomplished, and its adoption justified," Judge Carr wrote in a classic example of judicial
activism. "If even a single vote is lost due to the failure to implement HAVA, that loss alone is
irreparable."
Ohio's Secretary of State Ken Blackwell, a Republican, realizes that Democrats are trying to cast him as the
villain for defending the state's provisional voting restriction. "They are trying to make me into a black
version of Katherine Harris, but it won't work," he told me last month. He says that allowing voters to cast
ballots outside their precincts would lead to chaos and invite "stop and shop" multiple voting. He points
out that Mr. Soaries of the Election Assistance Commission has said HAVA allows states to determine
their own rules on how to count provisional ballots. He also notes that a federal judge in Missouri last
week ruled that state's requirement that provisional ballots only be counted in a voter's precinct does not
violate federal law as long as that voter is directed to the correct precinct.
Mr. Blackwell is appealing Judge Carr's ruling. But even if he wins, the controversy won't go away. Before
Judge Carr's ruling, election officials in heavily Democratic Cuyahoga County, which includes Cleveland,
had said they would defy the state law requiring provisional ballots only be handed out in the correct
precinct. "We err on the side of the voter," said Michael Vu, director of the county's Board of Elections.
"Nobody is going to be turned away at the polling location."
You can also expect bitter criticism of the U.S. Justice Department's efforts to both prevent voting rights
abuses and combat voter fraud. Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., an Illinois Democrat, told Salon magazine last
month there has been "a lack of federal enforcement" of voting rights laws. "It's almost as if the Ashcroft
Justice Department has ignored the history of voter intimidation. They have sanctioned voter terrorism."
Evidence of such "terrorism" is thin or nonexistent, but that won't prevent ugly charges from being traded
as Election Day grows nearer. Last week, a 66-page Election Day manual produced by the Kerry campaign
and the Democratic National Committee urged political operatives to "launch a 'pre-emptive strike' " in
case "no signs of intimidation techniques have emerged."
If the election is close--meaning the leading candidate isn't ahead by more than the "margin of litigation,"
look for the battles over provisional ballots to be the centerpiece of the postelection campaign.
SonnyG8R 10-27-2004, 01:53 PM Give it a rest. Gore won the election, Bush stole it.
End of discussion.
DR. FREECLOUD 10-27-2004, 01:54 PM October 17, 2004
Moni Basu, Julia Malone, “Last Election's Crisis Raises Stress In 2004,” The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
The presidential election is still more than two weeks away, but on a number of electoral fronts voters
across America fear a repeat of the 2000 aftermath. Courtrooms across the country are hearing challenges of election procedures. In some states, ballot
glitches have surfaced. In others, allegations of voter intimidation and fraud multiply. There are even
headlines about party trickery and "Watergate-style" break-ins at campaign headquarters.
All of it, say some voters, is a perfect storm in the making. The paranoia is compounded this year, they say,
by hyper-partisan passions, record numbers of newly registered voters and now, a neck-and-neck
presidential race.
"I am extremely nervous about the election," said Jennifer Isaacs, 35, of Smyrna. "I am afraid. And I feel
helpless because I hear about what's happening, and I don't know what I could do about it."
Isaacs is planning an election party at her Smyrna home. But she tells her guests to bring their pajamas
because she is sure the wait for results will spill over at least into the next day.
"It can't be good if people are mounting challenges before the first vote is even counted," Isaacs said.
"You look at a country like Afghanistan, and you see them carrying ballot boxes up the mountain and a
helicopter crashing on them. I'm not sure we are much better off than that."
The spotlight is focused on the electoral process in part because of the Florida fiasco of 2000.
"This is really nothing new. Voting irregularities and disenfranchisement have a long history in this
country," said Alia Malek, a civil rights lawyer who trains poll monitors. "But after 2000, the innocence is
gone."
Malek pointed to problems in Georgia --- there were 94,000 undervotes here in 2000, according to the
secretary of state's office --- that did not get as much attention as they did in Florida because the race was
not close here. The tossed votes are why Georgia is among 14 "top priority" states targeted by Election
Protection, a legal coalition launched to "protect the sanctity of the electoral process."
Kathleen Hall Jamieson, director of the Annenberg Public Policy Center, a research center at the
University of Pennsylvania, called the heightened scrutiny "a healthy thing."
"The reality is that everyone's vote is never counted in our elections," said Jamieson, co-author of a book
on the 2000 elections. "But things that happened in the past are more likely to make it into the news now
because there's a new peg to hang them on."
Even before ballots have been cast, courtrooms from Miami to Tallahassee are hearing challenges of
Florida's election laws, rewritten after 2000. Issues raised include the use of absentee and provisional
ballots, the lack of paper trails for electronic voting machines and improperly filled out voter registration
forms.
To add to the confusion, Florida voters have questions about where to vote after hurricanes left many
polling places too damaged to be used.
Civil rights activists charged intimidation after law enforcement officers showed up at the homes of elderly
African-Americans to investigate allegations of voter fraud in an Orlando mayoral election. Bush-Cheney campaign workers in three Florida cities said they were intimidated by chanting labor union
activists who showed up uninvited at their offices to protest White House-supported changes on overtime
pay. The Republicans filed a criminal complaint after a field director was injured in the scuffle.
Ongoing shenanigans
In Colorado, the state's top election official accused the attorney general --- a Democrat who is running for
U.S. Senate --- of not doing enough to prosecute potential ballot crimes. The secretary of state confirmed
recently that 6,000 felons are registered to vote statewide, even though they are barred from voting by state
law. And a Denver woman told a TV station she had registered to vote 25 times and signed up several
friends up to 40 times to help her boyfriend, a paid staffer for a community group registering voters.
In Nevada, Democrats said Voters Outreach of America, a Republican-funded registration group,
destroyed Democratic voter registration forms. A former employee of the group told a Nevada TV station
that registrations collected from Democrats had been destroyed instead of filed at the local election office.
National Democratic Party Chairman Terry McAuliffe pointed to Oregon, where the secretary of state
announced an investigation into allegations that a paid canvasser had been told to register only
Republicans.
Both accusations involve voter outreach operations run by Sproul & Associates of Chandler, Ariz., which
has contracts with the Republican National Committee to register voters in as many as 10 states.
Nathan Sproul, a former chairman of the Arizona Republican Party and the company's owner, said in a
telephone interview that the charge of destroying forms is "100 percent false."
RNC spokesman Jim Dyke fired back at "our Democratic counterparts whose selective outrage does not
apply to Democrat-aligned groups," including America Coming Together and Associated Community
Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN). Both groups have registered vast numbers of voters in the past
year.
Republicans have assembled news reports in states from North Carolina to New Mexico describing
irregularities, including forms filled out for 13- or 15-year-olds or with fictitious addresses or with
suspiciously similar handwriting.
A former ACORN employee who was arrested earlier this month for running a stop sign in Minneapolis
had 300 voter registration cards, some of them months old, in his trunk, according to police reports. State
law requires that they be submitted to the secretary of state within 10 days.
Officials in eight swing states were prevented from mailing absentee ballots by the Sept. 20 deadline
because of legal disputes involving independent candidate Ralph Nader and late primary elections. In
Pennsylvania, officials are still wrangling over whether to extend the deadline and approve other methods
for receiving ballots in the vein of Georgia, which began using fax and e-mail to transmit overseas
absentee ballots.
And even after the future of the nation hung on a few hanging chads in Florida, most Ohioans will see the
same outdated punch-card machines Nov. 2 because of potential security flaws in electronic voting
machines. This despite the fact that Ohio, this year's battleground of battlegrounds, had 94,000 votes
scrapped last time because the ballots were unreadable.
DR. FREECLOUD 10-27-2004, 01:54 PM Party politics got downright dirty in Washington state when three computers loaded with confidential
campaign information were stolen from the Bush-Cheney headquarters in a Seattle suburb.
In Toledo, Ohio, it was the Democrats whose computers containing crucial get-out-the-vote plans were
stolen from party headquarters.
The chairman of the Elections Assistance Commission, a new federal agency created to help smooth
electoral woes, said America must be prepared to hold two elections Nov. 2: one that will decide who will
occupy the White House, and the other to determine whether the process has the integrity that democracy
demands.
"I won't feel a sense of crisis if we don't know who won the race in time for the 'Today' show," DeForest
Soaries Jr. said. "But we have to ensure that every vote gets counted with integrity."
DR. FREECLOUD 10-27-2004, 01:55 PM By Jerry Seper and Donald Lambro, “Anti-Bush Registration Drive Stirs Fraud Concerns,” The
Washington Times
A coalition of liberal groups committed to defeating President Bush has spent more than $100 million
orchestrating the largest voter-registration drive in U.S. history, raising concerns of widespread voter fraud
in 14 battleground states.
At the same time, Democratic Party officials are gearing up to challenge unfavorable Election Day results
in a number of states through "pre-emptive strikes," charging that Republicans prevented minorities from
voting even before any such incidents are confirmed.
Working under the banner "America Votes," the 32-member coalition -- led by the anti-Bush America
Coming Together (ACT), the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), the American Federation of
State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME) and MoveOn.org -- has played a key role in what
election officials have called a massive increase in registered voters nationwide.
In the past several months, coalition members have flooded minority neighborhoods in an extensive door-to-
door voter-registration drive, using bar-coded sheets to identify undecided and potential Democratic
voters in Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Maine, Minnesota, Missouri, New Hampshire, Nevada, New Mexico,
Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, West Virginia and Wisconsin.
Colorado Gov. Bill Owens this week accused the groups of trying to undermine the election process and
demanded an investigation by his state attorney of hundreds of questionable voter-registration
applications.
"I am very concerned that such groups have registered people who are not qualified to vote," said Mr.
Owens, a Republican.
Democrats quickly blasted Mr. Owens, insisting that he was trying to scare people away from the polls.
"This is the classic move by Republican tacticians: create an environment of fear that discourages voters
from showing up on Election Day, for this is the only way they know how to win," said Susan Casey, state
director of Sen. John Kerry's presidential campaign. She said Republicans were panicked over polls showing Mr. Kerry in a virtual tie with President Bush.
Studies have shown that high voter turnout tends to favor Democrats.
According to a 66-page Democratic National Committee (DNC) manual, first disclosed yesterday on the
Drudge Report, Democrats already are planning to challenge election results.
"If no signs of intimidation have emerged yet, launch a pre-emptive strike," the manual said.
The manual, dated November 2004, also said Democrats should rely on party officials, minority
organizations and civil rights leaders to denounce Republican tactics to discourage people from voting. It
also said Democratic Party officials should assist in placing stories in the press by providing "talking
points."
Republican National Committee (RNC) Chairman Ed Gillespie said the manual "proves the Kerry
campaign and the DNC are more interested in scaring minority voters than in working to reach out to
them on Election Day, even if it means completely making things up.
"Republicans have worked hard to reach out and bring the president's message of hope and optimism to
all Americans, including minority voters around the country," Mr. Gillespie said.
"John Kerry sees these efforts, is concerned by them and is now working to scare those voters with lies
and wholesale fabrications."
Texas Railroad Commissioner Michael Williams, a black Republican and prominent speaker during the
Republican National Convention in New York, denounced the manual as "truly outrageous, careless and
shameful."
"For some time now, Democratic operatives have been suggesting that Republicans would engage in voter
intimidation. The allegation is not new, but very untrue," Mr. Williams said.
"As I look at this 66-page guide, it says, 'If no signs of intimidation occur, launch a pre-emptive strike.'
"What that means is if there is no evidence, and I don't expect there will be, just make it up and talk about
it anyway," he said. "The problem is John Kerry hasn't connected with African-American voters, and he's
trying to gin up his base. He should talk about what's important instead of scaring the voters."
Democratic spokesman Jano Cabrera, responding to reports of the DNC's aggressive Election Day battle
plan, said, "We make no apologies for fighting these tactics by exposing the dirty tricks when they happen
and helping educate local officials and activists about past Republican tactics so they can prevent them
from occurring this year."
A Democratic Party official, who also confirmed the manual's existence, denied that it suggests Democrats
make up stories about Republican intimidation of would-be voters. The official, who asked not to be
named, said it explains how to spot voter intimidation before and on Election Day, how to combat it if it
is occurring and what to do if it is not, "but you suspect it will."
The official also acknowledged that the manual suggests a pre-emptive strike if no signs of intimidation
can be shown, but said that section related to states in which intimidation tactics had been a problem in
the past.
DR. FREECLOUD 10-27-2004, 01:56 PM Several Democratic activist organizations were sending out statements yesterday that detailed instances of
what they said were attempts to prevent minorities from voting, but officials of these groups said they
were not doing so as a result of the DNC's initiative.
In Arizona, for example, Debbie Lopez, state director of the Arizona Project Vote, sent out a three-page
release warning of what she described as potentially intimidating practices at polling places.
"We have heard that there may be an organized effort of individuals that are encouraged to work polls
wearing their sidearms asking all brown voters in the southern border counties for identification as they
are waiting to vote," Ms. Lopez said, adding that she expects to have 700 volunteers across the state on
Election Day passing out information to minority voters to apprise them of their rights.
In Pennsylvania, the administration of Gov. Edward G. Rendell, a Democrat, plans to put state workers at
county election offices on Nov. 2, including one lawyer per office, to watch for any problems, raising
suspicions among Republican leaders.
The 14 battleground states can deliver 145 Electoral College votes, with 270 needed to win. Voter
registration totals in all 14 states are up significantly, according to election officials, who said more than
twice as many new voters have been registered in some states compared with 2000 totals.
But the rush to register has not been without problems or challenges.
Many think that voter-registration fraud, particularly in the battleground states, has been rampant, with
those looking to sign up huge numbers of new voters neglecting to obtain correct information or falsifying
documents with bogus names, addresses and Social Security numbers.
Authorities in several states are investigating whether thousands of voter registrations have been
fraudulently submitted, many by members of the America Votes coalition.
In Florida, for example, the Justice Department is working with state authorities to determine whether
voter-registration applications filled out by Republicans and taken by the Association of Community
Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), a coalition member, purposely were not submitted to state
election officials as part of a Democrats-only voter-registration drive.
Mac Stuart, a former ACORN field director, told investigators that workers for the organization routinely
withheld Republican voter registrations, while "thousands of invalid voter-registration cards" were
submitted in their place. He said he was ordered by ACORN officials to generate 103,000 voter
registrations from Dade County.
ACORN has said it has registered 1 million new voters since July 2003, adding that its members and staff
knocked on the doors of hundreds of thousands of low-income and working families and contacted
potential voters at shopping centers, grocery stores, street festivals, sporting events, naturalization
ceremonies and hip-hop concerts.
It said it registered 187,510 voters in Florida, 158,036 in Ohio and 120,862 in Pennsylvania.
In Colorado, Mr. Owens demanded an investigation this week into accusations of widespread fraud after
his secretary of state, Donetta Davidson, complained that state officials had not done enough to pursue
suspected offenders. Mrs. Davidson said her office had questionable registration applications from county clerks since April,
including forms with suspected forged signatures and others with similar signatures, but only one person
had been charged and no other investigations were under way.
Jim Fleischmann, ACORN's western regional director, said the group was cooperating with Colorado
authorities to track down several hundred fraudulent applications collected by his organization, but he
downplayed the severity of the problem. He described registration fraud as different than voter fraud,
adding, "Just because you register someone 35 times doesn't mean they get to vote 35 times."
In Ohio yesterday, U.S. District Judge James Carr overruled Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell and
ordered that voters who show up at the wrong polling place on Election Day still can cast ballots as long
as they are in the county where they are registered.
Meanwhile, two senior Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee yesterday asked for a Justice
Department investigation into accusations that "hundreds or even thousands" of voter-registration forms
submitted by Democrats in Nevada and Oregon were destroyed by a company under contract to the RNC.
Sens. Patrick J. Leahy of Vermont and Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts charged in a letter to
Attorney General John Ashcroft that the forms were destroyed by Voters Outreach of America, a private
company owned by Nathan Sproul, former head of the Arizona Republican Party.
They said the company also has run registration drives in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio, Minnesota, West
Virginia and Florida, "leading to fears that similar illegal activity may be occurring or may already have
occurred in those states."
Justice Department officials said they would look into the matter.
The Government Accountability Office, Congress' independent investigative arm, yesterday released a
106-page report that said the Justice Department has not established procedures for documenting voting
irregularities or voter intimidation and has no clear-cut policy for responding to such accusations.
Other members of the America Votes coalition include the American Federation of Teachers, Brady
Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, Democracy for America, Emily's List, Moving America Forward,
National Association for the Advancement of Colored People National Voter Fund, NARAL/Pro-Choice
America, National Education Association, Partnership for America's Families, People for the American
Way, Planned Parenthood Action Fund and the Sierra Club.
Media Fund and ACT have raised $60 million in anti-Bush dollars. SEIU and AFSCME put up $30 million
to defeat Mr. Bush. Moveon.org used a $10 million donation from billionaire financier George Soros to
attack the president.
DR. FREECLOUD 10-27-2004, 01:57 PM Julia Malone, “Political Parties Are Claiming Voter Registration Fraud In Several States,” Cox
News Service
WASHINGTON - With an unprecedented drive to register voters for this year’s presidential election now
in its final weeks, both sides are crying foul. Democrats, citing news reports that a Republican-funded registration group destroyed Democratic voter
registration forms, accused the Republican National Committee of engaging in voter fraud in at least two
states.
National Democratic Party Chairman Terry McAuliffe made the charges in a letter this week, after a
former employee of Voters Outreach of America told a Nevada TV station that registrations collected
from Democrats had been ripped up instead of filed at the local election office.
McAuliffe also pointed to Oregon, where the secretary of state announced an investigation into allegations
that a paid canvasser had been told to register only Republicans.
Both accusations involve voter outreach operations run by Sproul & Associates of Chandler, Ariz., which
has contracts with the Republican National Committee to register voters in as many as 10 states.
Nathan Sproul, a former chairman of the Arizona Republican Party and the company’s owner, said in a
telephone interview that the charge of destroying forms is “100 percent false.”
Sproul said his canvassers had been instructed “they were legally obligated to turn in every voter
registration” to local election authorities, and he blamed the Nevada allegation on a “disgruntled”
employee.
The RNC responded by announcing a “zero-tolerance policy for anything that smacks of impropriety in
registering voters.”
In a statement, RNC spokesman Jim Dyke said, “Anyone who engages in fraudulent voter registration
activities should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.”
At the same time, Dyke fired back at “our Democratic counterparts whose selective outrage does not
apply to Democrat aligned groups,” including America Coming Together and ACORN, or Associated
Community Organizations for Reform Now. Both groups have registered vast numbers of voters in the
past year.
Republicans have assembled news reports in states from North Carolina to New Mexico describing
irregularities, including forms filled out for 13-or 15-year-olds or with fictitious addresses or with
suspiciously similar handwriting.
A former ACORN employee who was arrested last week for running a stop sign in Minneapolis had 300
voter registration cards, some of them months old, in his trunk. State law requires that they be submitted
to the secretary of state within 10 days.
Steve Kest, the New York-based executive director of ACORN, said his group’s 2,000 employees have
registered 1.1 million new voters, mostly low income blacks and Latinos.
“There’s a few bad apples working for us,” he said, but he added that only an “infinitesimal number” of
the registrations have been faulty and that these have been caught by his group or by registrars.
“We think the same people who are calling attention to all of this just don’t like the idea that 1.1 million
new voters who are low-income, African-American and Latino are going to have a chance to vote in this
election.” Sarah Leonard, spokeswoman for the coalition America Votes, which includes ACORN and America
Coming Together, echoed that sentiment. The Republican complaints are coming largely “because the
Republican Party is getting beat on registration” and is resorting to “suppression techniques,” she said.
In other election action yesterday:
A federal judge ruled yesterday in Toledo that Ohio voters who show up at the wrong polling place on
Election Day can still cast ballots as long as they are in the county where they are registered.
U.S. District Judge James Carr blocked a directive from Ohio Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell, a
Republican, who recently announced that poll workers must send voters to their correct precinct.
Blackwell quickly filed an appeal.
The judge said voters who show up at the wrong polling place after moving without notifying the elections
board, and those whose names cannot be found on the registration rolls, should be able to cast provisional
ballots there.
The administration of Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell plans to put state workers at county election offices
on Nov. 2 to watch for any problems in the battleground state.
The plan has raised suspicions among Republican leaders.
The volunteers, including one lawyer to be sent to each office, will be given cell phones and ordered to call
state officials if they see a problem.
September 22, 2004
John H. Fund, “The Man With The Most Lawyers Wins,” Wall Street Journal
The Bush and Kerry campaigns are spending unprecedented millions on TV ads. But the real battle that
could decide this election may be fought by the squadrons of lawyers both sides have hired to prepare
Florida-style challenges to the results in any close state. Once again, America's sloppy, fraud-prone voting
system could turn Election Day into an Election Month of court challenges.
"If you think of election problems as akin to forest fires, the woods are no drier than they were in 2000,
but many more people have matches," says Doug Chapin, director of the nonpartisan Election Reform
Information Project.
Certainly, a lot of incendiary rhetoric is being tossed around. "Don't tell us that disenfranchising a million
African-Americans and stealing their votes is the best we can do in America," John Kerry told a black
church audience in Indianapolis in July as he promised to deploy "SWAT teams" of 10,000 volunteer
lawyers to police the polls for possible voter disenfranchisement.
The Kerry campaign has already spammed its supporters with an e-mail saying it is "considering our
options should John Kerry or George Bush pursue a recount like the famous Florida ballot dispute" and
soliciting funds to do so. The Federal Election Commission will hold a hearing this month on a Kerry
request to use its legal and accounting funds to pay for recount expenses. Republicans are forming their
own network of lawyers to guard against possible voter fraud, citing what they say has been a flood of
questionable new voter registrations submitted by liberal activist groups.
DR. FREECLOUD 10-27-2004, 01:58 PM Election lawsuits are already piling up. Democrats have sued in Missouri, demanding the city of St. Louis,
a Democratic stronghold, be the only jurisdiction permitted to allow early voting at government offices.
For the first time, a federal mandate will require that all voters be allowed to cast a provisional ballot if
their names don't appear on registration lists.
In Florida, liberal groups sued to have such ballots counted even if they are cast in precincts where the
voter doesn't live -- even though state law disqualifies votes cast in the wrong precinct. If the number of
provisional ballots exceeds the margin of victory in the Senate race, you can bet lawyers will argue that
"every vote must count," regardless of eligibility. Candidates may have to hope their vote totals are beyond
the "margin of litigation."
But the hottest spot for pre-election litigation this year is New Mexico, a state Al Gore carried by only 366
votes. On Monday, a Democratic judge tossed Ralph Nader off the ballot after another judge rescinded a
similar order she'd issued because she'd contributed $1,000 to the Kerry campaign. Nader forces have
accused Democratic Secretary of State Rebecca Vigil-Giron of railroading their man using legal pretexts
that have never been applied in New Mexico.
Earlier this year, Ms. Vigil-Giron issued guidelines saying that a new state law -- which mandates that
voters who register without an election official present must show a photo ID at the polls -- doesn't apply
to registrations collected by groups like the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now
(Acorn), but only to those people who sign up to vote by mail. So far, such groups have helped collect
112,000 new registrations, or one out of nine of the state's voters.
Mary Herrera, the clerk in Bernalillo County, which includes Albuquerque, says her office has received
over 3,000 suspicious registration forms. A 13-year-old boy received a voter card in the mail. Acorn
organizers admitted that registration was submitted by one of their employees, who has since been fired.
But in a court case this month, Acorn director Matt Henderson invoked his Fifth Amendment rights and
refused to answer whether his group illegally copies voter registration cards before turning them in to
election officials. Previously, he had admitted to the Albuquerque Tribune that it did so.
All this has prompted U.S. Attorney David Iglesias to form a statewide criminal task force. "Mischief is
afoot and questions are lurking in the shadows," he told reporters. But Ms. Vigil-Giron, whom Mr. Iglesias
named to his task force, told me that "the U.S. attorney is the last person in line who should look at vote
fraud. It's seen as Big Brother getting involved and won't help anything." Citing the burden on local
election officials, a local judge has declined to overrule her decree that most new voters don't have to show
ID -- even though he acknowledged the law is "clear" and "unambiguous."
The issue of photo ID has become symbolic of the clash of values on election standards between the two
parties. Supporters say it is bizarre that 33 states don't require a photo ID to vote, at a time when one is
needed to buy an airline ticket, rent a video or cash a check. A Rasmussen Research poll in June found
82% of Americans believed voters should show photo ID, including 75% of Kerry voters. But liberal
groups insist that even laws that allow voters to use a paycheck or utility bill as ID discriminate against
minority voters and could lead to "profiling."
When San Diego County Supervisor Bill Horn announced last week that he would petition Congress for a
bill requiring photo ID, he was denounced by the local League of Women Voters. Jesse Durfee, chairman
of the San Diego Democratic Party, says photo ID requirements "target specific communities and are
discriminatory." He calls them "a racist mechanism." Similar charges are being hurled at supporters of a November ballot initiative in Arizona that would require proof of citizenship to register to vote and apply
for welfare.
But the reason photo ID and similar laws command such broad support is that citizens instinctively realize
that in a highly charged election, some people will be tempted to violate the honor system on which our
election rules are based. Should "anything goes" continue to be our ballot catch phrase, the nation may
wake up to a crisis even bigger than the 2000 Florida folly. Perhaps then it will demand to know why more
wasn't done to fix the system before it failed again. That's why officials need to enforce whatever
safeguards we have this year -- and then lobby hard for better voter education and protections against
fraud in the future.
SonnyG8R 10-27-2004, 02:00 PM Anyone planning on reading all that ****?
DR. FREECLOUD 10-27-2004, 02:08 PM i was challenged to post evidence of the lefties practicing voter fraud. i actually have over 200 separate pages. i could go on till the election if i need to. if you don't read it thats fine.
Explosivo 10-27-2004, 02:09 PM Give it a rest. Gore won the election, Bush stole it.
End of discussion.
LOL! Yea right.
Bubba Chunday 10-27-2004, 02:15 PM Can u get points for posting on a thread you started?
SonnyG8R 10-27-2004, 02:16 PM Can u get points for posting on a thread you started?
yes, you get around 15 points per post.
Bubba Chunday 10-27-2004, 02:18 PM yes, you get around 15 points per post.
oh, ok. So at least this thread has a purpose. :rolleyes:
DR. FREECLOUD 10-27-2004, 02:27 PM oh, ok. So at least this thread has a purpose. :rolleyes:
yeah it has a purpose and fortunately you are not included in that purpose.
SonnyG8R 10-27-2004, 02:32 PM oh, ok. So at least this thread has a purpose. :rolleyes:
No, not really, except to give big pappy a place to masterbate.
DR. FREECLOUD 10-27-2004, 02:40 PM No, not really, except to give big pappy a place to masterbate.
hey sonny wanna put some points on this weekends game?
SonnyG8R 10-27-2004, 02:45 PM hey sonny wanna put some points on this weekends game?
You mean Florida - Georgia?
DR. FREECLOUD 10-27-2004, 02:51 PM You mean Florida - Georgia?
yeah they both have been suckin so it should be a good game
dbacksdude1z 10-27-2004, 02:55 PM Quit posting jezz
SonnyG8R 10-27-2004, 02:58 PM yeah they both have been suckin so it should be a good game
Ok, UF is a 7 point dog so if you give me the points I'll bet.
DR. FREECLOUD 10-27-2004, 03:00 PM if anyone is interested in the rest of this report please let me know. i can email the whole thing.
BiggestBoxingFanEver 10-27-2004, 03:06 PM http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/sucks10.gif
I am a witness to voter fraud by the desperate republicans, not to mention the sh*t that is happening here in PA with the amish
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5613947/
Republicans are getting them registered, getting them absentee ballots or picking them up in pickups by the droves to take them to vote. They support him for his pro-life, ant-gay stands and that's it. The economy, jobs,things like that don't matter to them.....why? Because they really don't participate in society...our society that is. No need to worry about Iraq or terrorism, under law they are protected by thier regilion from participating in the service and they don't travel abroad.
Should they be allowed to vote? Resident aliens are more involved in american society then amish are and they may not vote.
DR. FREECLOUD 10-27-2004, 03:13 PM I am a witness to voter fraud by the desperate republicans, not to mention the sh*t that is happening here in PA with the amish
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5613947/
Republicans are getting them registered, getting them absentee ballots or picking them up in pickups by the droves to take them to vote. They support him for his pro-life, ant-gay stands and that's it. The economy, jobs,things like that don't matter to them.....why? Because they really don't participate in society...our society that is. No need to worry about Iraq or terrorism, under law they are protected by thier regilion from participating in the service and they don't travel abroad.
Should they be allowed to vote? Resident aliens are more involved in american society then amish are and they may not vote.
the truth hurts doesn't it. i guess i'll post a little more since you still don't get it. and at least they are living people unlike the dead folks the dems are registering.
September 20, 2004
Jo Becker and Dan Eggen, “Voter Probes Raise Partisan Suspicions,” The Washington Post
Earlier this month, U.S. Attorney David Iglesias in New Mexico launched a statewide criminal task force
to investigate allegations of voter fraud in the upcoming presidential election. The probe came after a
sheriff who co-chairs President Bush's campaign in the state's largest county complained about thousands
of questionable registrations turned in by Democratic-leaning groups.
"It appears that mischief is afoot and questions are lurking in the shadows," Iglesias told local reporters.
But Democratic Secretary of State Rebecca Vigil-Giron, named to the task force to allay concerns that the
probe was politically motivated, said the investigation is unnecessary.
"This is just an attempt to let people know that Big Brother is watching," Vigil-Giron, New Mexico's chief
elections official, said in an interview. "It may well be aimed at trying to keep people away from the polls."
The probe is one of several criminal inquiries into alleged voter fraud launched in recent weeks in key
presidential battlegrounds, including Ohio and West Virginia, as part of a broader initiative by U.S.
Attorney General John D. Ashcroft targeting bogus registrations and other election crimes. The Justice
Department has asked U.S. attorneys across the country to meet with local elections officials and launch
publicity campaigns aimed at getting people to report irregularities.
The focus on registration problems comes amid a fiercely contested presidential race and at a time when
many Democrats are still angry over the 2000 election, in which ballot irregularities in Florida prompted
the U.S. Supreme Court to declare the winner. And it puts the Justice Department in the middle of a
charged and partisan debate over when aggressive fraud enforcement becomes intimidation.
Justice officials say it is the department's duty to prosecute illegal activities at the polls, and stress that civil
rights lawyers are also working to ensure that legitimate voters can cast their ballots without interference.
Justice Department spokesman Bryan Sierra said that "the department must strike a proper balance and we
cannot be deterred from investigating allegations of criminal voter fraud."
Civil rights advocates and many Democrats, however, complain that the department is putting too much
emphasis on investigating new voter registrations in poor and minority communities -- which tend to favor
Democrats -- and not enough on ensuring that those voters do not face discrimination at the polls. More
attention should be given to potential fraud in the use of absentee ballots, which tend to favor
Republicans, the critics say. They also charge that announcing criminal investigations within weeks of an election -- as was done in
New Mexico on Sept. 7 -- is likely to scare legitimate voters away from the polls.
"I'm concerned that the Justice Department is being overtly political," said Nancy Zirkin, deputy director
of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights. "Bells are going off for me because searching for voter
fraud has often been a proxy for intimidating voters."
The Justice Department's guidelines say prosecutors "must refrain from any conduct which has the
possibility of affecting the election itself."
"A criminal investigation by armed, badged federal agents runs the obvious risk of chilling legitimate
voting and campaign activities," the department's manual on elections crime says. "Federal prosecutors and
investigators should be extremely careful to not conduct overt investigations during the pre-election period
or while the election is underway."
Experts on both sides acknowledge that faulty or bogus voter registrations are a persistent problem. For
example, one study found that 5,400 dead people cast votes over a 20-year period in Georgia. But experts
question whether the phenomenon is widespread, and elections officials say they are most concerned
about absentee ballot fraud.
"The problem is, you don't know if the voter is being coerced, misled or bribed, because it all happens
away from public scrutiny," said Denise Lamb, New Mexico's election director.
Still, in recent months, elections officials in swing states have reported thousands of problematic
registrations, including addresses that do not exist, duplicate names, the names of deceased voters and
names that appear to be copied out of a phone book by the same person. Republicans have pointed to
such registrations as evidence of possible widespread election fraud.
"Violations of voter registration laws, registering dead or nonexistent people to vote, creates the
opportunity for Democrats to disenfranchise legitimate voters on Election Day, which on any scale is
something that should concern all voters," said Republican National Committee spokeswoman Christine
Iverson.
Elections officials of both parties, however, say that bad registrations do not necessarily translate into
Election Day fraud. New identification laws, as well as signature checks, make ballot-box stuffing
extremely difficult, they say.
Gary Stoff, the GOP director of elections in St. Louis, said that registration irregularities experienced there
are "not an attempt to commit fraud," but rather the result of greedy workers who get paid for every new
voter they sign up or already-registered voters who forget and register again.
In Ohio, Summit County Board of Elections Director Bryan Williams said the local sheriff and the U.S.
attorney's office are investigating irregularities in about 1,500 registrations sent to his office, including a
batch mailed by the AFL-CIO. But, he said, he sees no evidence that the purpose is to "bloat the ballot
box," in part because of the logistical difficulty of signing a fake person up to vote and then finding a body
to vote in that name.
The Justice Department points to its success in rooting out vote-buying problems in local elections in
Appalachia. Two men were convicted last week of buying votes during a 2002 judicial election in Kentucky, and several West Virginia residents were recently charged in a vote-buying probe by a U.S.
attorney in that state.
But many Democrats are suspicious of the prosecutors' motives in the most recent cases -- most of which
involve GOP complaints and alleged wrongdoing on behalf of Democratic candidates -- and are uneasy
with Ashcroft's role in overseeing such probes. Ashcroft, a former Missouri governor and senator, came
under fire during his 2001 confirmation for vetoing bills that would have promoted voter registration in St.
Louis, a heavily African American Democratic stronghold.
John Hickey is the executive director of the Missouri Progressive Vote Coalition. The validity of the
group's minority voter registration drive has been challenged by a conservative group whose directors have
close ties to Ashcroft. "Look at his history," Hickey said. "I think it's chilling that all these old Ashcroft
associates are trying to attack voter registrations instead of saying, 'Great, we want everyone to turn out.' "
Justice officials, while not commenting directly on criticism of Ashcroft, said the attorney general's Voting
Access and Integrity Initiative, begun in October 2002, is largely a compendium of policies already on the
books. In a statement, the department defended its voting rights record, saying that since 2001, it has filed
22 civil rights lawsuits to protect access to the polls, and in November expects to deploy "more voting
rights observers than in any other time in recent history" to protect against discrimination. Sierra, the
Justice spokesman, also stressed that prosecutors and FBI agents will not be monitoring polling places on
Nov. 2.
But civil rights advocates worry that, in the case of criminal investigations such as the one in New Mexico,
investigators will have to go door-to-door to question new registrants before balloting. In the 2002 South
Dakota elections, state and federal agents questioned hundreds of newly registered Native Americans, a
key constituency for Democrats in that state. The probe resulted in charges against one woman, which
were subsequently dropped.
"Often there's no real basis for these fraud allegations," said Jonah Goldman of the Lawyers Committee
for Civil Rights Under Law. The New Mexico probe was launched in part at the request of Bernalillo
County Sheriff Darren White, who chairs the county's Bush-Cheney campaign. The announcement came
after a district court judge ruled against plaintiffs in a Republican-led lawsuit that sought at-the-poll
identification requirements for new voters registered through drives. As proof that change is needed, the
plaintiffs listed a number of questionable registrations in their lawsuit, including one from a 13-year-old.
DR. FREECLOUD 10-27-2004, 03:13 PM But several women whose registration cards were attached to the lawsuit testified they registered twice by
mistake and that no fraud was involved.
Democratic groups have been pushing to register new voters in New Mexico, which Bush lost by 366
votes in 2000. The Democratic Party has testified that changing ID rules would disenfranchise some
voters, and spokesman Matt Farrauto called the criminal probe "worrisome."
Iglesias's spokesman, Norman Cairns, said the FBI is investigating "questionable voter registrations." But
he added: "Our objective is not in any way to influence this election."
DR. FREECLOUD 10-27-2004, 03:17 PM Ok, UF is a 7 point dog so if you give me the points I'll bet.
hmm lemme think about it. just so you know i am a dawg fan. i think what they did by anouncing zook getting fired mid season was ****ty. they should have waited til the end of the season. on the upside spurrier might be coming back huh.
SonnyG8R 10-27-2004, 03:27 PM hmm lemme think about it. just so you know i am a dawg fan. i think what they did by anouncing zook getting fired mid season was ****ty. they should have waited til the end of the season. on the upside spurrier might be coming back huh.
My feeling about it is if you are going to fire him, fire him. Don't fire him but let him finish the season. Get rid of him immediately and let an assistant be interim HC the rest of the way.
DR. FREECLOUD 10-27-2004, 03:35 PM My feeling about it is if you are going to fire him, fire him. Don't fire him but let him finish the season. Get rid of him immediately and let an assistant be interim HC the rest of the way.
i can agree with that.
BiggestBoxingFanEver 10-27-2004, 04:04 PM http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6346293/
Fresh off the presses. 60,000 mail-in votes missing from a highly populated democratic area.
neils7147933 10-27-2004, 04:14 PM you are naive if you don't think both sides have tampered with the results of every election since it became possible to do so, which was probably the first one.
DR. FREECLOUD 10-27-2004, 04:20 PM http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6346293/
Fresh off the presses. 60,000 mail-in votes missing from a highly populated democratic area.
lol...those were just absentee ballots. those fools can still vote. they can go do the early vote.
neils7147933 10-27-2004, 04:23 PM Now it's your people doing it
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/14/politics/main649380.shtml
Voter Fraud Charges Out West
TEMPE, Ariz., Oct. 14, 2004
Voter Registration Fraud
(Photo: AP)
"... there is no better way to disenfranchise a voter than to say you are registered and then throw away a voter registration form."
Oregon Secretary of State Bill Bradbury
(CBS) By CBSNews.com Chief Political Writer David Paul Kuhn
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Officials in Oregon have launched a criminal investigation after receiving numerous complaints that a Republican-affiliated group was destroying registration forms filed by Democratic voters statewide, Oregon Secretary of State Bill Bradbury told CBSNews.com.
Meanwhile, CBS affiliate KLAS-TV is reporting accusations of similar malfeasance in Nevada.
Both state's allegations are linked to a Phoenix political consulting firm called Sproul & Associates run by Nathan Sproul, former head of the Arizona Republican Party. Sproul & Associates has received nearly $500,000 from the Republican National Committee this election cycle, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.
Calls from CBSNews.com to Sproul were not returned.
Late Thursday afternoon, two Democratic senators, Patrick Leahy of Vermont and Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts, sent a letter to Attorney General John Ashcroft asking the Justice Department to "launch an immediate investigation into the activities of Mr. Sproul and his firm."
According to KLAS-TV, a former employee claimed hundreds, if not thousands, of Democratic registration forms were destroyed by a Sproul & Associates group called Voters Outreach of America.
The former employee first told local Nevada reporters that he had personally witnessed his boss shredding eight to ten voter registration forms, according to Steve George, a spokesman for the Nevada Secretary of State.
KLAS-TV quotes the chair of the Nevada Republican Committee, Earlene Forsythe, as saying, "The Republican National Party would never intentionally hire any staff people to come into the state to intentionally do voter fraud."
While Nevada is considering an investigation, Oregon's is well underway. Bradbury expects to have more than 200,000 new registered voters in Oregon by Election Day, when all the forms are tallied and verified. He said that they are now paying particular attention to issues of improper registration.
"We’ve had three [voter registration] complaints filed and we forwarded them to the attorney general who’s doing the criminal investigation," Bradbury, a Democrat, said in an interview. "The complaints specifically name Sproul."
In Nevada and Oregon, Sproul allegedly canvassed voters for which candidate they intend to support. If voters were leaning Republican, the group is said to have assisted in their registration. If they leaned Democratic, the group allegedly ignored them or later destroyed the form.
It is illegal to destroy voting registration material.
"I’ve never seen this before. The allegations that are being made just totally offend me, not only because they are illegal," Bradbury said. "Regardless of whether it is a Democratic, Republican or Independent form, there is no better way to disenfranchise a voter than to say you are registered and then throw away a voter registration form."
Both Oregon and Nevada are considered battleground states in the presidential election. Though polls show Oregon likely to go to Democrat John Kerry, Nevada remains a dead heat between Kerry and President Bush.
Concerns over Sproul’s practices were initially raised in early September when a Medford, Oregon, county librarian, Meghan O’Flaherty, received a fax from Sproul requesting to hold a voter registration drive at the local library on behalf of a nonpartisan group called America Votes. As a precaution, O’Flaherty did her own research on Sproul.
"I was just being a good reference librarian and checking the facts. We want to be sure someone who claims to be nonpartisan is nonpartisan," O’Flaherty said. "I didn’t want anything going on here in the library that would call into question our neutrality."
The fax from Sproul was also received by three other Oregon libraries. CBSNews.com obtained a copy of the fax, as well.
In part, the fax reads: "Our firm has been contracted to help coordinate a national nonpartisan voter registration drive, America Votes!, in several states across the nation." The one-page fax also claims, "We will equally register all those who wish to register to vote."
However, Cecile Richards, the president of America Votes, said in a letter to Sproul that he "had never even heard of Sproul & Associates," and asked that "he refrain from using the name 'America Votes' in any of your activities from this point forward."
Part of the problem, said Bradbury, the Oregon secretary of state, is the "bounty system" where people are "paid by the signature for circulating petitions and that led to significant fraud."
"I have not seen a bounty system for voter registration before," Bradbury continued. "It’s not illegal but I’ve never seen that before."
In Nevada, the allegations of voter registration malfeasance have irked local election officials. The Nevada Secretary of State’s office has contacted the Department of Justice in Washington. An investigation is not yet underway.
"The allegations are that there was a group that was doing voter outreach in Las Vegas – Voters Outreach of America – allegedly made by one of its former workers that the group would destroy Democratic voter registration forms," said George, the spokesman for the Nevada Secretary of State’s office.
In Las Vegas, the Clark County registrar’s office has in the last month alone received more than 100,000 new registrations. Though it has only five electoral votes, the possibility that Nevada could go for either Bush or Kerry has brought the state to the forefront of the presidential race.
"If the allegations are true," George said "it could" involve hundreds if not thousands of voter registration forms. "We are looking at what state and federal laws may have been broken."
neils7147933 10-27-2004, 04:26 PM ...and doing it some more. I don't think there's any doubt that the result, whatever it turns out to be, won't be genuine.
http://www.news8austin.com/content/election_2004/election_stories/?SecID=409&ArID=122743
Voter oversight causing problems in Travis County
10/22/2004 9:41 PM
By: James Keith
Voter oversight is causing some Central Texas Democrats to cast their ballots for Republican President George Bush, rather than the straight ticket they think they're selecting, according to the Travis County Clerk's Office.
The confusion stems from a referendum for a $60 million commuter line that is at the end of the ballot. Straight party voters must scroll down to find the referendum.
Libby Sykora, the executive assistant at the clerk's office, said voters should check the final summary sheet before casting their ballots.
At least a dozen straight party voters have reported problems with the eSlate voting machines.
Some Democrats complain their ballots mistakenly voted for Republican President George Bush.
Election officials have tested the eSlate machines more than 3,000 times since receiving the complaints. They believe people are hitting the enter button instead of the next page button.
"If someone casts a Democratic ticket, they're seeing that the change switches from the first position on the ballot, which is a Bush/Cheney ticket. If they cast a Republican straight party ticket, what they see is that first position in the presidential contest switches back to a ‘no’ selection," Elections Division Manager Gail Fisher said.
Whether voting straight ticket or for the candidates individually, each person will receive a ballot summary page that pops up on the screen before the ballot can be cast. This is the final chance for voters to see who they're voting for and to make sure it's who they want.
"The complaints we have so far, 100 percent of what he have reported to us are people who've caught it on their summary screen," Fisher said.
The machines in question have been pulled and officials plan to study the matter the elections. They encourage anyone having problems at the poll to contact an election judge before casting your ballot.
Election officials say eSlate machines are reliable only if voters pay attention.
BiggestBoxingFanEver 10-27-2004, 04:32 PM lol...those were just absentee ballots. those fools can still vote. they can go do the early vote.
Just absentee ballots????????
Why do you think they filled them out.....BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABSENT!
The voters may be out of the country already or out of town on business. I know of a dozen people who do "absentees" because they are old or have a physical alement. They can barely even get in a car, let alone stand in a line. Since it too late to absentee if a second chance if one were permitted, its a choice between their health or to vote.
SonnyG8R 10-27-2004, 04:34 PM Republicans are evil and will resort to any means to win.
It's disgraceful and makes our great nation look bad.
BiggestBoxingFanEver 10-27-2004, 05:02 PM Sonny, you said what I was thinking. But......its in the name of god.
Anyway, your state NH from what I understand could go either way.
4 e votes if i'm not mistaken. Get the word out!
vB Martin 10-27-2004, 05:35 PM That's all fne and well. Both sides do this crap when it comes to registration. They also selectively register, passing themselves off as pollsters and only offering registration to the people who support their candidate.
While you've posted tons of anecdotal "evidence" I don't see any articles citing reliable sources with claims of Dems under investigation for registering Repugnicans, then tearing up their cards rather than turning them in, as the RNC backed Nathan Sproul is under investigation for in 2 different states.
I also don't see any materials relating to elections committees in Dem governed states sending the Kerry campaign headquarters lists of "questionable" voters to challenge at the polling places on election day, or anything where the Dems are ADMITTING that they were involved in activities to defraud people by convincing them they are signing a petition when underneath lies a new voter registration charge they use to change the person's address, thus invalidating their vote on election day.
Can you come up with this, or just the partisan, anectdotal crap you're posting now?
DR. FREECLOUD 10-28-2004, 09:09 AM http://tinypic.com/eodnn
sounds famliar to me.
Panzergirl 10-28-2004, 10:18 AM so.. are you saying the whole us democrazy thing is riddicolous dream and something the satanist **** are feeding you, while poking malicious fun at you at the same time..?
LuKahnLi 10-28-2004, 10:21 AM The Bush team lawyers ARE waiting in front of polling places to contest votes. Even CNN is talking about it. This isn't left propaganda.
LuKahnLi 10-28-2004, 10:23 AM On a community college in Chicago, a petition was passed around to students CLAIMING to be a petition for legalizing Marijuana. A week later, the students found out they were registered republicans.
LuKahnLi 10-28-2004, 10:25 AM The CEO of Diebold, the company that makes the voting machines contributes HEAVILY to the Bush campaign, appears at GW Bush fundraisers, and makes speeches saying he will do all he can to get GW elected.
SonnyG8R 10-28-2004, 10:25 AM A vote for Bush and the Republicans is a vote for continued reliance on foriegn oil.
And really that is what all the trouble in the Middle East is about.
Bush and all his cronies should be analy raped by 2x4's with rusty nails in them.
Panzergirl 10-28-2004, 10:28 AM A vote for Bush and the Republicans is a vote for continued reliance on foriegn oil.
And really that is what all the trouble in the Middle East is about.
Bush and all his cronies should be analy raped by 2x4's with rusty nails in them.
can you beam them up and do that to them, dildoman?
LuKahnLi 10-28-2004, 10:43 AM Would be nice if he could.
SonnyG8R 10-28-2004, 10:46 AM can you beam them up
You're thinking of Scottie.
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