We have alot of people on these boards who have strong political opinions. Especially a mid 20's group who seem to be big John Kerry supporters. This group is statisticaly apathetic when it comes to actually voting in elections. I would like to honestly know who is going to vote in the upcoming elections. I went to vote in Florida(we can vote early) and there was a huge line so I decided to wait until election day. So, lets hear who is actualy voting in this election, and please be honest.

i hear that kermit the frog is woting for kerry..

and theres a whole bunch of handpuppets up in washington gonna wote for bush..

how exiting, this is gonna make a difference..!!

I will be voting this year. I am 25 and I have voted in every election since I turned 18.

Pdbs, I hope you punched the right hole. J/K :p

I will be voting this year. I am 25 and I have voted in every election since I turned 18.

Pdbs, I hope you punched the right hole. J/K :p




...Yeah, gotta watch those hanging chads!!

I already voted, I went w/ kerry...Although he never really talks about what he is going to do and seems to attack people in his speeches, he still gets my vote...4 years it is time for a change...

I voted for the lesser of the two evils.

I'll vote and then watch the returns come in with great interest.
Whatever the outcome, I will piss and moan for the next four years.
It's what I do.

you are ruled by a mason satanic cult.

do you really think it will make any difference which of the two puppets who come in with the most of your dumbass wotes?!

Yes, it makes a difference.

Yes, it makes a difference.

like in what colour dildo you have up your ass?

you are ruled by a mason satanic cult.

do you really think it will make any difference which of the two puppets who come in with the most of your dumbass wotes?!

Cocentrate on your own Euro pinko commie socialist government and leave ours alone. :D

i once had a norwegen girl.

i once had a norwegen girl.

what happened to her?

does she have a name?

you are ruled by a mason satanic cult.

do you really think it will make any difference which of the two puppets who come in with the most of your dumbass wotes?!

You're just upset cause Europe has become the old age retirement home of the world...a dwindling population living off of government handouts.

S'kddin', of course. I wish I could live in Europe myself. Just be careful what you say about the States. I'm from Canada and slag the place all the time, but it's also full of genuinely nice people who really do care about what's happening there and in the rest of the world.

Having said that, please, please, people, vote for Kerry. I'm no fan of his, really, but Bush and his gang are crooks. They don't care about you...they only care about getting your vote so they can make more money exploiting the world's people and resources. Not that Kerry is all that much better, but there is a fine but distinct line that divides these men.

you are ruled by a mason satanic cult.

do you really think it will make any difference which of the two puppets who come in with the most of your dumbass wotes?!

STFU. You don't deserve to have such a cool avatar you carpet muncher.

what happened to her?

does she have a name?

she had to go back to norway. her name was hilde mitbo

STFU. You don't deserve to have such a cool avatar you carpet muncher.

sonny..

whats the colour of your favourite dildo?

she had to go back to norway. her name was hilde mitbo

im gonna give her a call. then im gonna make a new post, tell everybody what you are like in bed.

im gonna give her a call. then im gonna make a new post, tell everybody what you are like in bed.

Is everyone in Norway like this? No wonder you suck at hockey.

im gonna give her a call. then im gonna make a new post, tell everybody what you are like in bed.

that is just fine by me. are you sure you aren't trying to find out for your own perverted reasons?

Is everyone in Norway like this? No wonder you suck at hockey.
no not everyone in norway is like panzerboy/girl

aaah!

i had you goin there for a while..!

nah, im not gonna make a new post, i was only curious why you called yourself bigpappy..

but im gonna let it go.. i think..

aaah!

i had you goin there for a while..!

nah, im not gonna make a new post, i was only curious why you called yourself bigpappy..

but im gonna let it go.. i think..


Panzerboy gets banned and returns as Panzergirl.

How creative. What's wrong Nazi***, couldn't you come up with anything more original?

cool your temper sonny before things escalte

We have alot of people on these boards who have strong political opinions. Especially a mid 20's group who seem to be big John Kerry supporters. This group is statisticaly apathetic when it comes to actually voting in elections. I would like to honestly know who is going to vote in the upcoming elections. I went to vote in Florida(we can vote early) and there was a huge line so I decided to wait until election day. So, lets hear who is actualy voting in this election, and please be honest.


Im voting and I will be voting for Kerry.

No one still has gave me a clear answer as to why Kerry should win. The best Kerry supporters say is, "Anything but Bush." I guarantee you if Kerry wins, with the state of the economy right now...He will do nothing for it. I'm not a Bush supporter, I'm a democrat, but I don't think Kerry can do a better job than Bush, I don't even think he's on par with Bush..

No one still has gave me a clear answer as to why Kerry should win. The best Kerry supporters say is, "Anything but Bush." I guarantee you if Kerry wins, with the state of the economy right now...He will do nothing for it. I'm not a Bush supporter, I'm a democrat, but I don't think Kerry can do a better job than Bush, I don't even think he's on par with Bush..


Kerry wont do much for it and bush will only make it worst...

We are in lose-lose situations here, They are both going to **** us either way....Bush will screw up healthcare while Kerry will screw up pharmacueticals.....

It is a sad day to be an american.....


I think kerry will pull us out of war without finishing what we started and that will leave other countries bitter, while Bush will keep us over their longer and longer and longer and still try to get other countries to ally with us and be over their for about 5-7 more years and that will turn countries backs on us, I dont think we are doing any good by having any man as president...

Sure it doesnt effect me much, because im still a kid in college but if bush goes and ****s up our healthcare that is something longterm which isnt good especially for people who will retire in the next few years (which will be my father)

One thing I would like to hear the presidents talk about is the oil fiasco, I dont know about you but I am sick and tired of paying 2.24 a gallon and having to refill every 4-5 days...I want to hear how that is going to be solved...

Im onto their little ploy, they will drop the gas down to 1.84 and everyone will scramble and be like "Holy **** gas is cheap 1.84" and raise it slowly and it is $2.24 now they will drop it down to like $2.00 and people will be like "ohh **** its cheap"...They will keep doing that because we will get accustomed to the higher prices, it is sad a year ago was $1.48 and people still complained about that but if it went that low everyone would have a heart attack....

This is horrible for u.s. citizens to be paying this much and to me (because it effects me the most) is what I want to hear about getting this fiasco fixed and I have yet to hear either president speak on it and the only thing I have heard was in a commercial saying kerry wants to raise it 50 cents, as if it wasnt getting that high now.

Also, Kerry is pulling the HUGE young demographic between 18-24 (myself) and that is going to win voters, especially since younger people are sour over Bush....Plus kerry is promising cheaper schooling *rollseyes*




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I vote the republican ticket almost always. I know you all probably hate me now. :D

I vote the republican ticket almost always. I know you all probably hate me now. :D


I agree with some republicans and some have done well, just not the one in office right now.

One thing I completely disagree with as far as Kerry goes is his views on Gay rights and partial birth abortion. Only thing I don't like about Bush is that he actually thinks things are going well, and he's doing a good job. But I agree with you, Spinks, neither of them will make a good president...with the country being in the present state it is in right now, not too many past presidents in U.S. history would have a good next four years, either.

One thing I completely disagree with as far as Kerry goes is his views on Gay rights and partial birth abortion. Only thing I don't like about Bush is that he actually thinks things are going well, and he's doing a good job. But I agree with you, Spinks, neither of them will make a good president...with the country being in the present state it is in right now, not too many past presidents in U.S. history would have a good next four years, either.

Im all for stem cell research and abortions, but that is another epidemic....Im not against gays in any manner, I would have never thought gays would be getting married, but marriage is bond between 2 individuals and hey if 2 guys or 2 women have it let it be....The "GAY WAY" is just our culture and society changing, it evolves everyday some things you agree with some you do not. I dont approve of the whole gay thing but hey if people want to do it that is their choice and im not going to hate on them for it....Their sexuality preference and lifestyle effects me in any manner so I "shrug" my shoulders to gay...

Abortion and Gay rights is an individuals choice and im not about to go out and change theirs when I wont let people change mine.....


One thing I would like to say though is, dont let this end up in some big argument of hate lets be civilized. I know a lot of people who get all worked up when it comes to politics and the best thing one can do is listen to ones opinions and then forget about it, when it comes to politics you are not going to change an individuals mind.

But partial birth abortion is murder. They take the baby out, stick a tube in the back of his it's head, suck out it's brains, and mind you the baby feels this pain during the whole time, and they just discard the body. That's murder. What's so hard about putting the baby up for adoption if you don't want it? Humans weren't created to be homosexuals. If they were, two males would be able to reproduce, but what they want to do is go ahead and adopt the straight children and poison their minds and confuse them. No, I don't think it's okay to be gay. If everyone was gay, it would be death of human kind as we know it. I personally don't care if they get married, but I don't want their marriage to be recognized as an official union between two as would a man and woman's wedding be. I also don't believe in letting homosexuals adopt children. This is because lot's of homos talk about how they were born gay and stupid stuff like that (which I think is a bunch of baloney) I think they can influence children they adopt to become homosexuals just like them, children are very impressionable.

it sounds to me like youre a republican but african american leadership in this country has made you feel guilty so you align yourself with the democrats (sorry about the assumption)

people say bush is a racist but then why does he have 3 afro americans in important leadership positions in this country

i think its time for more african americans to explore their political beliefs and stop believing the propaganda that republican dont care for minorities and they will lose their rights if they for conservative

But partial birth abortion is murder. They take the baby out, stick a tube in the back of his it's head, suck out it's brains, and mind you the baby feels this pain during the whole time, and they just discard the body. That's murder. What's so hard about putting the baby up for adoption if you don't want it? Humans weren't created to be homosexuals. If they were, two males would be able to reproduce, but what they want to do is go ahead and adopt the straight children and poison their minds and confuse them. No, I don't think it's okay to be gay. If everyone was gay, it would be death of human kind as we know it. I personally don't care if they get married, but I don't want their marriage to be recognized as an official union between two as would a man and woman's wedding be. I also don't believe in letting homosexuals adopt children. This is because lot's of homos talk about how they were born gay and stupid stuff like that (which I think is a bunch of baloney) I think they can influence children they adopt to become homosexuals just like them, children are very impressionable.


Ohh yeah, I dont agree with that right their, now the normal abortion procedure as an embryo and such isnt a big deal to me.......



Unrelated to the topic at hand, but in New Guineas culture they have the younger men perform oral sex on older men and drink their semen to make them more masculine as well as another countries culture the men their think you are weak if you are straight...Weird

That's nasty stuff...Well I believe in a strong middle class that too has to deal with the fact that I'm a democrat.

But partial birth abortion is murder. They take the baby out, stick a tube in the back of his it's head, suck out it's brains, and mind you the baby feels this pain during the whole time, and they just discard the body. That's murder. What's so hard about putting the baby up for adoption if you don't want it? Humans weren't created to be homosexuals. If they were, two males would be able to reproduce, but what they want to do is go ahead and adopt the straight children and poison their minds and confuse them. No, I don't think it's okay to be gay. If everyone was gay, it would be death of human kind as we know it. I personally don't care if they get married, but I don't want their marriage to be recognized as an official union between two as would a man and woman's wedding be. I also don't believe in letting homosexuals adopt children. This is because lot's of homos talk about how they were born gay and stupid stuff like that (which I think is a bunch of baloney) I think they can influence children they adopt to become homosexuals just like them, children are very impressionable.

Too bad you weren't aborted :D :p

Jack...

You are a total moron. Here, I thought you were just a boxing moron !


Children can be "influenced" into being gay ?

LMFAO !

One of the dumbest, lamest beliefs I can think of.

You mean to tell me.....a young man's natural desire to GET *****, can be altered because of someone else's influence ?

" Hmmmm....I'd really like to **** that chick...but my super-cool neighbor Bruce....he loves dick, & I want him to think I'm cool too !"

Anyone who thinks gays aren't born...but made/influenced...is thinking like a Mid-Western podunk....or a stupid-ass kid !

Who the **** would decide to follow a lifestyle which is discrimated against by society AND will probably cause them to have the **** beat out of them a few times (no I am not talking being a boxing fan).

I don't see how it is a choice. But bible thumpers are working back from what the good book says.

Oh yeah, and the ****s who seem to care so much about unborn babies are the same ones who don't give two ****s about keeping the water and air clean so that the same babies aren't born with birth defects and autism. These are the same ****s who are allowing the few manufacturing companies that remain in the states to lower workplace safety standards. These are the same ****s who want to allow HMOs to play god and Doctors to get away with medical malpractice. And these are the ****s who call themselves 'pro life' but cheer when Guvner Bush sent a retard to the electric chair. **** right pro-lifers and their hypocrisy.

LuKahnLi, I can assure you, I'm not one of those people. So Jabs, you mean to tell me that if a gay couple adopts a baby and this kid grows up thinking that having two dads is right and he grows up acting just like his two dads...he won't be a queer? Becoming gay is a decision one makes. I know alot of females who "turned" into ***es. You can't be born gay, you aren't born with the sense of what sex you like...You make the choice.

Like I said before...Being gay is unnatural. If it were natural two males or two females would be able to reproduce..

jack

What about humans IS natural? I mean if sex were a matter of what is natural, we wouldn't be using contraceptives. Hell, if we wanted human sex to be more natural then us as guys would be jumping on every woman that we encounter. The hell with small talk. If any other guy got in our way, we would KILL them. It would also be more natural to leave children with birth defects out in the wild to die. That is what happens in NATURE.

What is natural? What a silly arguement.

With all that said, are you going to say you have never seen a male dog jump on another male dog. Hell, I saw once saw a hump train consisting of 3 pugs all male. The one in the lead was the father and the 2 behind him were his OWN offspring. Not everything in nature makes sense to humans.

Oh yeah, and the ****s who seem to care so much about unborn babies are the same ones who don't give two ****s about keeping the water and air clean so that the same babies aren't born with birth defects and autism. These are the same ****s who are allowing the few manufacturing companies that remain in the states to lower workplace safety standards. These are the same ****s who want to allow HMOs to play god and Doctors to get away with medical malpractice. And these are the ****s who call themselves 'pro life' but cheer when Guvner Bush sent a retard to the electric chair. **** right pro-lifers and their hypocrisy.

Yeah, they cheer when abortion doctors are murdered as well.

I'm not saying that we should live like animals, when I say natural, I don't mean it like that. Human unlike animals are proven to be able to have feelings, and make choices outside of what nature or the natural calls for. The choice, however, of being gay, is an unnatural choice.

Yeah, they cheer when abortion doctors are murdered as well.

I'd like to comment on that too. I don't think two wrongs make a right, because the doctor performing the procedure is just as bad as the person who is getting it done. I don't think doctors should be killed because of that, because the person who kills them is a murderer, that's something else I see as wrong.

Like I said before...Being gay is unnatural. If it were natural two males or two females would be able to reproduce..

Male dogs f*ck male dogs, moron.
Do you know this ?

What's their "influence" ?

I'm not saying that we should live like animals, when I say natural, I don't mean it like that. Human unlike animals are proven to be able to have feelings, and make choices outside of what nature or the natural calls for. The choice, however, of being gay, is an unnatural choice.

But animals who have no reason or feelings do it sometimes.....all they have is nature yet we do see it happen in nature.

Maybe it is not so unnatural after all. As humans we shouldn't be concerned about what is natural any longer. Hell, when I have sex (with a woman) at this point it ain't for reproductive purposes. It is purely recreational. THIS is unnatural too.

im voting for kermit the frog, atleast this guy admits hes a handpuppet..

Male dogs try to "****" the leg of people sometimes. It's just that they're horny and there isn't another female dog around. You mean to tell me that if you see two male dogs having sex and you bring in a female dog who is in heat that they won't get off of each other and have sex with the female instead (no, I don't mean both of them, either..)The point I'm making is that dogs are just animals.

jack

Is masturbation natural? Is lubing up a sweatsock and beating off to "Cum Gargling Sluts" natural?

OH by the way. Female primates DO use sticks and the like as masturbatory tools. So yeah, masturbation is natural.

Jack

BTW, thanks for not pussing out of this debate and whining "Stop attacking my opinions" like some others.

C'mon...You really look towards animals to determine what is natural or not? Animals are beneath humans. Humans are the superior race, why are you looking towards animals to dictate what you can believe as natural or not?

Okay Jack. Can you please explain what NATURAL does mean, if not what is "found in nature"?

Natural is defined as being in accordance with nature. I disagree with that definition to a certain extent, because something natural gives out a result what in most cases is also viewed as natural. Sex was created for two reaons..pleasure, and a means of reproduction..I know this because when a man a woman have sex they both feel pleasure, and their body's adjust in a way to make a means for reproduction to be possible. Homosexuality is the unnatural way of having male/female sex. When it comes to males they replace oral sex or anal sex for vaginal sex, and when it comes to females they use oral sex or props in the place of a penis. They're using another way to achieve the pleasure what is achieved through male/female sex...thus making it unnatural.

Natural is defined as being in accordance with nature. I disagree with that definition to a certain extent, because something natural gives out a result what in most cases is also viewed as natural. Sex was created for two reaons..pleasure, and a means of reproduction..I know this because when a man a woman have sex they both feel pleasure, and their body's adjust in a way to make a means for reproduction to be possible. Homosexuality is the unnatural way of having male/female sex. When it comes to males they replace oral sex or anal sex for vaginal sex, and when it comes to females they use oral sex or props in the place of a penis. They're using another way to achieve the pleasure what is achieved through male/female sex...thus making it unnatural.

Okay, so you are against masturbation too? Cuz in the case of guys, we are replacing a woman with a lubed up sock and a video tape. And women are replacing us guys with a piece of rubber.

Masturbation is unnatural as well, but it doesn't impact society as much as gay people impact society...

Masturbation is unnatural as well, but it doesn't impact society as much as gay people impact society...

Again, that comes down to whether you think homo-sexuality is a choice. I happen to think it is not, you happen to think it is. Only homosexuals know the real answer and most I have heard from say that it is NOT a choice.

I must say, your fear that them adopting kids and turning them gay is irrational. It is not like they IMPOSE their lifestyle on their kids.

The point is we don't know that. Alot of things are imposed on kids whether it's direct or indirect from their parents.

My parents tried to impose Christianity on me. It didn't take. Why? Because I truly could not get into it. It went against my nature.

If it is truly against your nature then they can try all they want. It will never take hold.

Well..not all parents are the same. Just like there are some straight parents who reject their kids for becoming gay, there can be some gay parents who reject their kids for being straight...and when that happens, what's a kid a to do?

Well..not all parents are the same. Just like there are some straight parents who reject their kids for becoming gay, there can be some gay parents who reject their kids for being straight...and when that happens, what's a kid a to do?

I have heard of straight parents rejecting their kids for being gay. But I honest to god have NEVER heard of Gay Parents rejecting their children for being straight. Honestly, can you find ONE instance of this ever happening? If you can I will be shocked.

Again, that comes down to whether you think homo-sexuality is a choice. I happen to think it is not, you happen to think it is. Only homosexuals know the real answer and most I have heard from say that it is NOT a choice.

I must say, your fear that them adopting kids and turning them gay is irrational. It is not like they IMPOSE their lifestyle on their kids.

this is why they are for gay marriage


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or it could be thier third wheel. http://strangecosmos.com/images/content/101809.jpg

Who the **** would decide to follow a lifestyle which is discrimated against by society AND will probably cause them to have the **** beat out of them a few times (no I am not talking being a boxing fan).

I don't see how it is a choice. But bible thumpers are working back from what the good book says.

same thing can be said about stupid liberal tree hugger hippies or people that molest little kids

OWNED!

Tech...

Those people you described....are bible nuts ?

explain your reply.

they are people hated by most normal people because of what they choose to do

if gayness is in ones DNA then how is it passed on to offspring considering it would have to be a recessive trait

Tech

What governs human behavior is not divisible only by choice or genetics.

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