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judge_jab
03-01-2008, 01:56 PM
Hi guys,

I've been training in boxing for quite a few months now and have been told I will be ready for a fight soon and that I have a talent and could go a long way so I am certainly motivated.

I changed gyms a few weeks ago and love my new gym. The previous was very tough fitness wise, but very small around 20 boxers and 1 trainer so their was rarely any one-on-one time. It wasn't amateur either, it was white collar, but different from normal white collar, its basically professional but with head guards at 3x3.

The new gym is fantastic, amateur, good equipment, around 10-12 members at a time during the adult sessions and 5 qualified trainers all who are brilliant. I get loads of attention and have learnt so much in just a few sessions compared to months at the old one.

One problem, the old gym was open 4 times a week, mondays, wednesdays, fridays and sundays for 3 hours at a time but like I said mainly fitness no 1-2-1 time.

The new gym is open only 3 times a week, mon, wed and friday and each sessions lasts only around 1 hour and 20 minutes but its with a trainer through out.

I was wondering how often you guys train? And how often are you training with an actual trainer guiding you?

I have equipment at home, heavybag, speedbag, skipping rope, gloves etc so can train on the other days as much as I like, so could be training in boxing 7 days a week if I wanted too, but only 3 days a week with a trainer!? Is that still under average?

I really want to go far in this sport and eventually become a pro, I am 16 so have started late and really want to make up for the lost years, I have been told I could go far and would like to compete at 2012.

I am taking care of fitness, not much conditioning at new gym but I prefer that as I train by my self at a fitness gym 5 times a week. Its the skills I am worrying about!

thanks guys :boxing:

Count Patron
03-01-2008, 10:38 PM
That is plenty of 1 on 1 time. Focus on school, you will not make it as a pro. Work on a career outside of boxing and enjoy it as a sport.

Domey
03-01-2008, 11:17 PM
That is plenty of 1 on 1 time. Focus on school, you will not make it as a pro. Work on a career outside of boxing and enjoy it as a sport.

You will not make it as a pro. Wow, what a confidence booster?

If you train hard and dedicate yourself, anyone can make it as a pro. "Making" it does not mean you will become a world champion, but you can have a decent little career. Learn enough about boxing, participate, and after you are done, there are other options. You could go into training as a couch, or travel around and become a sparring partner.

If you are only able to train 3 days a week, atleast you are getting the one on one attention those three days. Try and do something the other two days during the week. The skip rope, sit-ups, running, shadow boxing, and some speed bag. Throw in some heavy bag practicing what you learn during those three days.

Training yourself can be bad, as you can start to form bad habbits. Make sure you are paying as close attention as possible while you are at the gym and focus on that information.

Best of luck.

Count Patron
03-01-2008, 11:20 PM
You will not make it as a pro. Wow, what a confidence booster?

If you train hard and dedicate yourself, anyone can make it as a pro. "Making" it does not mean you will become a world champion, but you can have a decent little career. Learn enough about boxing, participate, and after you are done, there are other options. You could go into training as a couch, or travel around and become a sparring partner.

If you are only able to train 3 days a week, atleast you are getting the one on one attention those three days. Try and do something the other two days during the week. The skip rope, sit-ups, running, shadow boxing, and some speed bag. Throw in some heavy bag practicing what you learn during those three days.

Training yourself can be bad, as you can start to form bad habbits. Make sure you are paying as close attention as possible while you are at the gym and focus on that information.

Best of luck.

School is always the better option. Not anyone can make it as a pro, some people are not cut out for it.

Domey
03-01-2008, 11:57 PM
School is always the best option. However if that is his desire and he is willing to put in his due's, I don't see why you have to **** on them?

Count Patron
03-02-2008, 12:04 AM
School is always the best option. However if that is his desire and he is willing to put in his due's, I don't see why you have to **** on them?

I'm not trying to **** on his dreams, just being realistic. 3 days is good for starting out as an amateur. He should compete in a bunch of amateur fights and see how he does. If he is an awesome boxer regardless of what keystrokes I hit on a message board he will make it to the pros, but hopefully he won't forget the important stuff.

sterling
03-02-2008, 12:22 AM
count patron rofl why are you saying he wont make it when you have never seen him box? man your just a fat kid on your pc shut it lol.
Man you can make it if you want it simple as.
Im not amatuer yet but im training and im 19 i been compared to miguel cotto because im gd at body punching.
So just stick to it and dont listen to negative stuff but importantly dont ignore it because bad critizism is always gd to build on to.
ALSO TRAIN EVERYDAY
YOU DONT NEED A GYM TO TRAIN GOD DAM IT LOL
I train at the gym 2 days or 3 a week and train the rest at home doing runs and exercises also sometimes going swimming.
Im on a break at the moment im taking a few days of training but im back on it tomoz.
Give urself break sometimes but you should be training more then 3 days if you wana go pro.

Count Patron
03-02-2008, 12:35 AM
count patron rofl why are you saying he wont make it when you have never seen him box? man your just a fat kid on your pc shut it lol.
Man you can make it if you want it simple as.
Im not amatuer yet but im training and im 19 i been compared to miguel cotto because im gd at body punching.
So just stick to it and dont listen to negative stuff but importantly dont ignore it because bad critizism is always gd to build on to.
ALSO TRAIN EVERYDAY
YOU DONT NEED A GYM TO TRAIN GOD DAM IT LOL
I train at the gym 2 days or 3 a week and train the rest at home doing runs and exercises also sometimes going swimming.
Im on a break at the moment im taking a few days of training but im back on it tomoz.
Give urself break sometimes but you should be training more then 3 days if you wana go pro.

Says the guy who has never stepped in the ring but compares himself to Cotto. You are a clown.

Mickey Gomez
03-02-2008, 12:54 AM
That is plenty of 1 on 1 time. Focus on school, you will not make it as a pro. Work on a career outside of boxing and enjoy it as a sport.

You're quite an idiot, all of your posts are garbage. You haven't seen him box.
You obviously don't box OR you make a very poor attempt at it.
You even know what the word motivation means?

Judge Jab I train 5-6 days a week.

Weekdays 2 hour 30 minute sessions (including warm up). I have 1 on 1 time for most of it.

On Saturdays I usually do a 3-4 hour session (including warm up) and again I have 1 on 1 time for most of it.

3 days a week with a trainer is not all that bad. Just make sure when training by yourself, you do everything you practised with your trainer.

Yes school is important, you can train adequately and your studies won't suffer, make a training schedule that leaves room for study. Disregard all that troll said about not making it as a pro. 90% of sport is psychological, you need a clear goal (in your case, turning pro), always be positive that you will reach that goal. Don't hope, believe.

sterling
03-02-2008, 08:17 AM
Says the guy who has never stepped in the ring but compares himself to Cotto. You are a clown.

why wud i compare myself? ive said ive been compared and ive sparred numerous times and someone watched my vid of me body sparring then made the comparison so stop assuming things you weak minded newb you could never make amatuer.

judge_jab
03-02-2008, 10:38 AM
well I don't need to worry about my studies. I am doing a full time sports and exercise science course, I am top of the class and get top marks in all units, my plan is to go to university in my last year I will be 21. The same year as 2012.

Because of my course, sport and training for it is of high importance so that is no problem.

On top of my boxing skill sessions with a trainer 3 times per week. (sparring, pad work, drills, heavy bag, shadowboxing all with trainer)

I train at home on tuesday, thursday and saturday in boxing.

I generally do this:

3x3 shadow boxing
3x3 heavy bag (working on technique)
4 x 1 power boxing (pure power shots)
5x 30 seconds punch out drills (all out for 30 seconds)
3x3 speed bag
5x3 jump rope

I do that 3 times a week on the days I do not go to the boxing gym, I do this at home. In the evening

And on top of all this I have one max strength workout a week, one explosive strength workout a week, one interval training session, one GPP session (circuit training),

I also train my neck every other day and train my core every day

I am not concerned with my fitness whatsoever, I was just wondering if I am spending enough time with my trainer. I learn from the trainer then practice the next day. the following I show how I have improved

thanks a lot

thoughts?

sterling
03-02-2008, 11:48 AM
TBH in the amatuer game its mostly yourself that needs to do the work but your trainer obviously needs to guide you.
But dont worry you wil be alright but i do think you should train more often evne if its just 1 hour i mean come on you can make time 1 hour a day to train also running is the most important thing so do more running.

kbpoetree
03-02-2008, 12:01 PM
TBH in the amatuer game its mostly yourself that needs to do the work but your trainer obviously needs to guide you.
But dont worry you wil be alright but i do think you should train more often evne if its just 1 hour i mean come on you can make time 1 hour a day to train also running is the most important thing so do more running.
DO NOT TRAIN EVERYDAY... thats just dumb..if anyone argues..they dumb also..your body must have recover time...sure u can get away w training everyday..long as a totally diff muscle is trained..with adequate rest time..their is a such thing as overtraining in wich case ur muscles start to deteriorate instead of gettin stronger...one on one is fine twice or so a week as long as u go home and work on those skills over the next few dayz...practice exactly what he taught and get those fundamentals down pact...ur core should b worked on everyother day as well

judge_jab
03-02-2008, 02:01 PM
sterling - train more??? I don't see how it's possible for me to train much more! Did you see my last post??? I train for around 3-4 hours every day except sunday. It's only the time with the trainer I am concerned about!

kbpoetree- I have sundays off too recover so that's alright, also as far as strength and conditioning are concerned, I have scheduled it so I am not training max strength on consecutive days etc.

I also train my core everyday except sunday. I alternate between heavy (weighted) and light (just bodyweight)

judge_jab
03-02-2008, 02:03 PM
and no, I disagree with the running, interval sprints and work capacity training is much better, more and more fighters train like this now, a boxing fight is a sprint not a marathon, especially in the amateurs.

MMA fighters train like this and more and more boxers are starting to

sterling
03-02-2008, 02:44 PM
DO NOT TRAIN EVERYDAY... thats just dumb..if anyone argues..they dumb also..your body must have recover time...sure u can get away w training everyday..long as a totally diff muscle is trained..with adequate rest time..their is a such thing as overtraining in wich case ur muscles start to deteriorate instead of gettin stronger...one on one is fine twice or so a week as long as u go home and work on those skills over the next few dayz...practice exactly what he taught and get those fundamentals down pact...ur core should b worked on everyother day as well

hey i did say that he shud give himself time of also and running is very important if you cant do that then you wont go far.
Anyways dont listen to what other people do just do what u feel is working.

judge_jab
03-02-2008, 03:07 PM
I run intervals once a week like 4x 400 metres etc. running 6 miles a day is pointless for a 3x2minute fight. You'd be surprised at the number of boxing opting to run intervals and do other forms of conditioning such as burpees rather than running.

punchDrUnK MONK
03-02-2008, 03:08 PM
I was wondering how often you guys train? And how often are you training with an actual trainer guiding you?

could be training in boxing 7 days a week if I wanted too, but only 3 days a week with a trainer!? Is that still under average?



i train 4-7 days a week.. depending how sore the body gets from the workouts.. too many days off in a row is never good, making a routine weekly helps... but ya, 4-7 days a week in the gym normal training, spar 2 times a week on average. 4 rounds each time minimal...

then as for with a trainer guiding me.. my gym kinda worked like ur old one.. one trainer and a TON of members.. only like 20-30 actual amatuers.. and like maybe 50 ppl who spar... but tons of ppl just to get in shape. my trainer sells his 1 on 1 time.. he is great with one on ones, at faIR prices, and also has clases multiple times a day that his members can take for free... just pad work is rare unless u get the 1 on 1's, then its mainly padwork...

but to answer that i train randomly with the trainer, but he will always be giving me advice n getting me to do certain things in the gym... i make an effort each time to work WITH my trainer, i never just come in the gym and do my own thing ignoring him, its his gym i roll with him...


and to be honest i think your a lil under average for training, depending how many hours per day u put in... hourwise.. a solid 10 hours a week in the gym is a minimal

judge_jab
03-02-2008, 03:14 PM
well I train around 12 hours a week boxing with 7.5 coming from home: heavy bag, skipping, shadow boxing, speed bag and 4.5 coming from working with a trainer. I also spar 3 times a week the same session with the trainer.

punchDrUnK MONK
03-02-2008, 03:21 PM
ya thats solid man

JF91
03-02-2008, 05:54 PM
Don't mean to sound rude but If I were training as much as you I wouldn't give a damn what people thought I was upto and their concerns on it, I'd be making sure I was slamming everything I possibly could into boxing. You definately seem to be able to talk us into thinking your good enough to become a pro, but we cant do anything about it, only you can, so basically what I'm saying is go for it son, the skys the limit and the way your training you can't go wrong. Good luck. (Y)

judge_jab
03-02-2008, 07:25 PM
lol, i know I'm nowhere near ready to go pro YET! I havent even had an amateur fight yet! But I am determined enough and have been told I have the potential to go very far. But we'll see, all I can do at the moment is train and fight and see how it goes.:boxing:

sterling
03-02-2008, 07:44 PM
same here i havent had a amatuer fight yet man which sucks lol

JF91
03-03-2008, 03:19 PM
I think I'm exactly the same as you pal coz I've only just been introduced to boxing and I'm willing to put everything into getting as good as I can possibly be and I'm also the same age as you, so I know what you mean by wanting to know exactly were to aim your training.