Who wins this one?

im going with my man Dan Henderson by UD:banana:

After watching last nights UFC pre-hype event I am 100% sure The Spider will take Hendo.

Henderson, he can take a shot, hits really hard, and can neutralize Silva's muay thai clinch....

hendo is built for 5 rounds-- silva isnt

I'm obviously picking Hendo, but I see it as really a pick-em fight. I could see it going either way really. Its almost a classic grapler vs striker matchup, except that the grapler (hendo) can strike and the striker (silva) can grapple. I still like Hendo's olympic pedigree, MMA experience, his ability to (perhaps) neutralize the clinch, and his brute strenghth and heart, but I admit that I'm also partially picking him because I'm a fan as well. One thing I've noticed with Hendo is his standing defence is complete ****. I mean, he's one of the hardest punchers in the sport and he can definatly take a shot, but I've noticed that when a fighter is teeing off on him, he has a tendency to stand stationary with his hands in a fixed position and just eat shots. That could be disastorous against a striker as lethal as Silva. That said, I still expect Hendo to dominate the clinch throughout much of the standup, but I can definatly see some trouble spots for him on the feet. It may be a question of how Silva reacts to Hendo's weaknesses. Really, I think either guy has the ability to beat the other depending on how the fight plays out and depending on how each fighter utilizes their opportunities. Hendo has more tools in his bag, but Silva is the one with the ability to end the fight quick (Hendo could probly end it with a big right, but he's not at all the sort of dynamic striker that Silva is).

Sorry to make you guys read, was feeling a bit analytical haha.

I'm picking Silva.

Anderson Silva's got this one in 2.

dan henderson will take silva down or KO silva.

Silva is the complete fighter with no weaknesses.

no weakness??? look back at the tuf 4 finale fight last year, Travis Lutter put Silva on his back and had mount.......
Weakness on the ground.

no weakness??? look back at the tuf 4 finale fight last year, Travis Lutter put Silva on his back and had mount.......
Weakness on the ground.

yes but what was the outcome? Lutter tapped, Making world class JJ guy tap is impressive, so yeah...Silva is complete fighter.

yes Lutter was Dehydrated....try fighting with no water in your body, no energy.....nothing left 2 fight with.....so tell me when u fight an win like that.
an when u do i'll give ya props.
what lutter did was take mount over silva an pound on him til the bell rang...

why didnt he drink water in between rounds? lol, did it end in round 1? I didnt actually watch it, but drinking water between rounds wouldve been smart.

:pat: how did u make the most knowledgable mma poster poll....

I really like both of them and I think Silva is the best in MMA right now but I just have a sneaky feeling Hendo will win. I can't wait for it I am so excited.

ill say it again- silva isnt built for 5 rounds- never was- he will gas around the 2nd/3rd

ill say it again- silva isnt built for 5 rounds- never was- he will gas around the 2nd/3rd

Why do you state that he is not built for a 5 round fight?

Silva by Decission

Why do you state that he is not built for a 5 round fight?

just watch and see- if silva doesnt finish hendo by 2 or 3 round- its going to be all hendo last couple of rounds

man this shows u what type of fights ufc puts on.....a pick'em fight that has even the most knowledgable posters in here torn between the winner of this one...i love it!!!.....im hoping this fight shows us a side of silva that i haven't been able to see yet and that is how will he handle adversity?....will he ball up like my boy tito ortiz and get pounded or pull out a chris leben and lay henderson out while hurt.....i cant wait for this one......silva p4p#1 !!!!

Silva is doing some unbelievable ****. Most recently he's ground and pounded a wrestler, has submitted a brazillian jui jitsu expert and has tko'd rich franklin twice, when rich only lost once before.

The only thing left for him to do is to KO a man who's never been KO'd before in MMA competition.

So who wants to bet I'll put up 3k I got silva.

just watch and see- if silva doesnt finish hendo by 2 or 3 round- its going to be all hendo last couple of rounds

You never answered my question...why do you think he wont last 5 rounds? Just because he never went the distance in UFC before dont mean he cant do it.

You never answered my question...why do you think he wont last 5 rounds? Just because he never went the distance in UFC before dont mean he cant do it.

i don't think its possible for someone like Silva to fight at the pace that he does for 5 rounds- i just don't see its happening- i don't think he works out a much as lets just say hendo/rampage- if hendo goes by his game plan and just constantly applies pressure (in the clinch, standing, constant grappling), he will eventually gas and be much more easier to hit/control! hendo/linland aren't some mma newbies, they for sure game up with the best possible plan to beat Anderson Silva- its just a matter of not getting caught before all this happens LOL

i don't think its possible for someone like Silva to fight at the pace that he does for 5 rounds- i just don't see its happening- i don't think he works out a much as lets just say hendo/rampage- if hendo goes by his game plan and just constantly applies pressure (in the clinch, standing, constant grappling), he will eventually gas and be much more easier to hit/control! hendo/linland aren't some mma newbies, they for sure game up with the best possible plan to beat Anderson Silva- its just a matter of not getting caught before all this happens LOL

haha at the last part.

Silva seems to do alot of running, cardio but dont really see him do muscle endurance. Silva will finish this in round 2.

In reply to Silva not being able to keep his fighting style up, watch his fight against Jeremy Horn.

I actually think that if the fight went the distance that Anderson Silva has the better chance to win because he is so technical and smart and that he can pick up a lot of points picking Dan apart while staying out of trouble.

The more time they're in the cage, the more time Dan Henderson has to make a crucial mistake. Though, on the other hand, they don't call him decision Dan for nothing. He's famous for taking fights the distance, but with someone as accurate and dangerous as Silva, I think he would fail if it went the distance.

The only way I see Henderson winning is by grounding and pounding Silva. A submission for Henderson is likely, but Silva is a very good BJJ guy and he can also submit Henderson and has shown that he can wiggle his way out of trouble on the ground.

I see Silva winnign this by Unanimous Decision.

haha at the last part.

Silva seems to do alot of running, cardio but dont really see him do muscle endurance. Silva will finish this in round 2.

why does everyone think i dislike silva- he has a good chance of winning the fight- all im saying is i dont see hendo getting put away quickly- if it doesnt end before 3 round, hendo is gonna win it

Silva is doing some unbelievable ****. Most recently he's ground and pounded a wrestler, has submitted a brazillian jui jitsu expert and has tko'd rich franklin twice, when rich only lost once before.

The only thing left for him to do is to KO a man who's never been KO'd before in MMA competition.

"Submissions" due to strikes don't count. Silva has had 3 submission wins, all due to strikes. On the other hand, 2 of his 4 losses have come via submission so Silva is really not a proven submissions fighter at all.

i like both fighters a lot but i think SIlva will take this

how bout those clown over at sherdog saying oh ill take hendo on this one. I watched the countdown last nite hendo is pretty damn slow. i think silva will out speed him. and win by KO.

"Submissions" due to strikes don't count. Silva has had 3 submission wins, all due to strikes. On the other hand, 2 of his 4 losses have come via submission so Silva is really not a proven submissions fighter at all.

His submission against Lutter was not due to strikes.

:fing02: i like both fighters as well, but i had 2 pick a side for my fantasy picks an chose Henerson :lol1: and i'm gonna stick by it til the fight an hope for the best.
if Henderson can't beat Silva then i don't think anyone else will for a long time.

from mmaweekly.com

Dan Henderson is one of the most seasoned fighters in mixed martial arts. The two-time Olympic Greco-Roman wrestling team member has been wrestling since the age of five and has fought in the most prominent mixed martial arts promotions in the world, obtaining both the Pride middleweight and welterweight championships.



At UFC 82: Pride of a Champion, Henderson will get the opportunity to add another belt to his collection when he takes on reigning UFC middleweight titleholder Anderson Silva.



Here is a breakdown of what Henderson brings to the Octagon against Silva.



STRIKING:

Henderson may come from a wrestling background, but he likes to let his hands go. He possesses knockout power as shown in his fights with Wanderlei Silva, Akihiro Gono and Ryo Chonan in recent years.



His grappling ability allows him to plant on his punches with no fear of being taken down. Henderson isn’t the most technical of strikers, bringing more of a brawling style to the ring, but he only needs one punch to finish a fight.



GRAPPLING:

Henderson is a two-time Olympian in Greco-Roman wrestling. What more really needs to be said? He has 31 years of wrestling experience. There is nary a fighter in MMA that is going to be able to out-wrestler him.



Henderson utilizes his strikes to close the distance and get to the clinch position to drop for a single-leg takedown, execute a trip or simply power his opponents to the mat.



From the top position Henderson unleashes an onslaught of ground-and-pound. From the bottom, he is very difficult to keep on his back and has excellent reversals.



SUBMISSIONS:

Henderson's submission game is more defensive than a threat of catching someone in a submission. In fact, over his 11-year, 28-bout career, Henderson has never submitted an opponent and isn’t likely to start with Anderson Silva, a Brazilian Jiu-jitsu black belt.



He is listed as having one submission victory in 1999 over Bakouri Gogitidze in the Rings promotion, but it was due a well-placed knee.



The two times Henderson has ever been finished in his career have been via submission, but the Team Quest fighter hasn't lost by submission in nearly three years.



OCTAGON CONTROL:

Henderson has the ability to control the pace of a fight with effective clinch work and grappling. His wrestling pedigree accompanied with his punching power makes for a difficult match-up for almost anyone.



If he doesn’t set the distance to land the big overhand right for the knockout, clinching and controlling the pace of the fight is Henderson’s forte. Like many fighters with a Greco-Roman base, he is good at grinding down his opponent, wearing them out.



CONDITIONING:

Henderson is coming off a five-round fight that went the distance against UFC light heavyweight champion Quinton "Rampage" Jackson. He’s been through the wars and half of his 22 wins are by decision.



For this fight, Henderson traveled to Big Bear to prepare in isolation and at elevation. He has stepped up his conditioning and is expected to be in excellent shape. Conditioning shouldn't be a factor in this fight.



THE "X" FACTOR:

Henderson changed training camp locations for this fight and whether or not it pays off will be seen when the Octagon door closes on Saturday night.



Both Henderson and Silva have been in big fights. Both have been in main events and both have been in five-round bouts. Nerves will not be a factor, but Silva has competed in a cage more often recently than Henderson and the Brazilian could be more comfortable competing in that environment.



This fight should be won or lost in the clinch. Henderson's Greco-Roman clinch eliminates space, something Anderson Silva's Muay Thai clinch needs to inflict the most damage. Which fighter is able to impose their clinch style on the other will most likely be the one with his hand raised.



If Henderson isn't able to get to the clinch position or secure takedowns, he could be in for a long night, or a short one. If forced to stand and trade with Silva, Henderson could be picked apart and become frustrated. Frustrated and over committing with strikes against Anderson Silva is the absolute worst-case scenario for anyone.



KEYS TO SUCCESS:

For Dan Henderson to defeat Anderson Silva, the Pride Champion needs to eliminate space. Silva is most effective when he has the space to display his craft. Without distance, Henderson could nullify Silva's strikes.



Even from the clinch position, Silva needs distance to throw his trademark knees. Establishing the Greco-Roman clinch will reduce Silva's ability to deliver the devastating knees.



From the clinch, Henderson needs to get this fight to the ground and work ground-and-pound, while avoiding submission attempts and working to pass Silva's guard. Side control is where Henderson will have his best opportunity to finish Silva, unleashing an array of punches, forearms and elbows.

His submission against Lutter was not due to strikes.

It was listed as elbows on Sherdog but I read a recap (couldn't find a vid) and i remember the fight now.. Silva had him in a triangle and was throwing elbows to the head. I think it was a combination of the striking and the hold. I'm sure Silva can submit a guy when he has the opportunity but it hasnt been a big part of his game.

Anderson is training with people that are able to push him. His training camp is full of world-class training partners that pushes him day in and day out. Henderson on the other hand is falling into the the "Chuck Liddel" trap where he is the top dog inside his camp and none of his sparring partners are pushing him out of his comfort zone.

This is why I believe he will loose.

It was listed as elbows on Sherdog but I read a recap (couldn't find a vid) and i remember the fight now.. Silva had him in a triangle and was throwing elbows to the head. I think it was a combination of the striking and the hold. I'm sure Silva can submit a guy when he has the opportunity but it hasnt been a big part of his game.

i also think it was a combination of the triangle choke and the strikes. but i think his tap was more from the strikes. if and when you watch the fight, it looks like the strikes were on the top of the head from the camera angle but im not sure. lutter was protecting his neck correctly, using his elbow as leverage so as to reduce the pressure from silva's legs.