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SugarShanep4p
02-22-2008, 01:43 PM
Is it true your not suppost to work your abs every day? Iv been doing 60 crunches 5 days a week since about september, and within the last week iv been getting a bad burning sensation in my lower abs. Any ideas?

P4PKING_2008
02-22-2008, 01:46 PM
If it is hurting now after 5 months. You won;t have anything to worry about if you are doing the same amount of reps as 5 months ago. If they are hurting try just simple cardio work like roadwork and if they hurt after that. Then you really need to rest.

Deeznuts
02-22-2008, 01:46 PM
I dont see why but if I where u I would slow down a bit. Do they hurt whe u do em

Count Patron
02-22-2008, 01:50 PM
Crunches are worthless. Do FULL sit-ups for true core strength.

sukhenkoy
02-22-2008, 02:02 PM
I don't think crunches are worthless, but sit-ups are probably better for you, like CountPatron said. I have been doing ab work for over 7 months now and for me, full-core sit-ups are easier to do than crunches. For instance, I feel it more in my abs when I do 100 crunches as opposed to 100 sit-ups.

That being said, I remember my trainer telling me that the abdominal muscles are actually one of the few muscles in your body that can be worked almost daily (without negative results like overtraining). However, in your case, it seems like your abs need a rest, if you're still feeling pain in them from only 60 crunches in one day (and you've been doing it since September).

Count Patron
02-22-2008, 02:23 PM
I don't think crunches are worthless, but sit-ups are probably better for you, like CountPatron said. I have been doing ab work for over 7 months now and for me, full-core sit-ups are easier to do than crunches. For instance, I feel it more in my abs when I do 100 crunches as opposed to 100 sit-ups.

That being said, I remember my trainer telling me that the abdominal muscles are actually one of the few muscles in your body that can be worked almost daily (without negative results like overtraining). However, in your case, it seems like your abs need a rest, if you're still feeling pain in them from only 60 crunches in one day (and you've been doing it since September).

Really? I can do crunches all day long, but full sit-ups kill me around the 100 mark.

GTL
02-22-2008, 04:40 PM
situps are horrible for your back..

theres a buttload of core exercises to choose from that dont involve the crunching motion

SugarShanep4p
02-22-2008, 05:32 PM
Wow yeah I didn't mean crunches sorry, sit ups, I have one of those ab boards and iv maxed it out so the thing is like completely slanted, but in addition to the situps I also do roadwork, thats my workout when im not at the gym, 2miles of roadwork then 60 situps. I did 20 today to ease back into it, ill keep you posted if anything else happens.

mr tricky
02-22-2008, 05:58 PM
if your stomach muscles are hurting that is good, muscles grow by being damaged and then growing back stronger if i were you i would do sit ups 3 times a week but max out each one with full proper sit ups that hurt your stomach that way you will see improvment

pain is good

GTL
02-22-2008, 06:40 PM
give your muscles time to grow.. rest in b/t the days..
like someone said, work them about 3 times a week, hard... no consecutive days.. wut part of LI are u from?

Ell
02-22-2008, 06:54 PM
If you've been doing 60 crunches 5 days a week for 5 months your abdominals will have adapted to doing that load. You need to increase the amount you're doing so your abdominal muscles keep adapting and getting stronger. I do crunches everyday, usually between 300-500, I use to get saw the day after my crunches so I would rest and take a day off. These days I don't get as saw so I do them pretty much everyday, usually laying off just once a week to make sure I don't get accumalative fatigue. I swear by crunches over situps, you feel the burn more with crunches and they don't cause damage to your lower back. It's just hard to learn how to do a proper crunch, many people think a crunch is just going halfway up to do a situp but it's not. I would suggest going on an ab cradle to get used to the correct form of a proper crunch and how they should feel. It took me a while to get used to doing proper crunches but once you get doing them you feel the benefits. If your abs are saw or hurt the day after then rest them for a day.

sukhenkoy
02-22-2008, 08:31 PM
Really? I can do crunches all day long, but full sit-ups kill me around the 100 mark.

Yeah man. I don't really feel it in my abs when I'm doing full sit-ups by the 120 mark (more in my legs than anything), but crunches I start to feel by around 70-80. To each his own body I suppose.

Count Patron
02-22-2008, 09:14 PM
situps are horrible for your back..

theres a buttload of core exercises to choose from that dont involve the crunching motion

Sit-ups help build your lower back.

SugarShanep4p
02-22-2008, 09:28 PM
yeah mabye thats a good idea then, ill do my roadwork everyday and then do the situps and the roadwork only 3 days a week......and im from cold spring harbor, LI

TexasTitan
02-22-2008, 09:56 PM
Key to recovery is nutrition. Eat lots of lean proteins and a balanced diet for that matter.

Count Patron
02-22-2008, 10:13 PM
yeah mabye thats a good idea then, ill do my roadwork everyday and then do the situps and the roadwork only 3 days a week......and im from cold spring harbor, LI

Name of the chick in your signature? I would very much like to fap to her.

SugarShanep4p
02-22-2008, 10:42 PM
hahaha I have no idea what her name is, I found the photo awile back and iv had it ever since....you can try searching italian girls on google images or something lol

Salty
02-23-2008, 03:46 AM
You can work your abs every day, but vary the exercises as like with any muscle they become accustumed to the cunches and situps. Mix things up and shock them.

Abs are mainly slow twitch muscle fibres due to their nature of being stabiliser muscles to maintain posture (forgotten their classification). So work tthem every day as long as they aren't sore and vary it up and you will notice much better improvements.

Ell
02-23-2008, 08:08 AM
Sit-ups don't much or anything at all for your back, they put a lot of stress on your lower back and your spine. You can minimise stress with sit-ups by doing them on a soft/cushioned surface but I would still recommend crunches over sit-ups every day of the week. For doing you lower back do back hyperextensions or the rowing machine. I've done sit-ups in the past and crunches and I've found crunches to be far more effective, it's just learning the correct form.

Rob Pilger
02-23-2008, 12:47 PM
Sit ups are the worst ab exercise to do. Becuase of the amount of pressure elicited on the lumbar spine ( low back ) Dr. Stuart McGill who is the worlds TOP expert on back pain and performance has written about this in his great book Ultimate Back Fitness and Performance.

Understand that the abdominals are made mostly of phasic fast twitch muscle fibers so they need rest like your legs and back etc. What would happen if you squatted with resistance everyday? To work the abs like they are meant to be worked you MUST use resistance and when you do this you must rest OR perform lower abbs Day 1, Day 2 Rotational, oblique work, then repeat. Still you can over train them by working then 4 or more times a week.

For elite performance you're FAR better off performing rotational core work, ( boxing is a rotation sport ) in standing, wood chops for example than doing excessive floor ab exercises like crunches, Reverse crunches are great though and an exception for improving performance and posture.

Everyone is different, listen to your body, you can't train everyone like a herd of cattle or train like everyone else in the herd, I mean individualize your training to what you can recover from and needs.

Perform more rotation and reverse crunch work.

Rob Pilger
http://www.boxingperformance.com
http://www.theultimateboxingworkout.com/fighters.html

Domain
02-23-2008, 01:38 PM
dont work abs everyday to failure.

if you work them everyday for fat burning do a moderate amount never intense, but if you want your abs to be strong an grow then you gotta do them 2-3 times a week only cause like all other muscles they need rest and food to grow if you overtrain them they wont grow.

BennyST
02-23-2008, 11:00 PM
Sit-ups help build your lower back.

No offense mate but thats really not the best advice to give people. Sit ups absolutely do not help build your lower back. It is proven now that they can do some prolonged and permanent damage to your lower back. If you don't do them with correct form or arch your lower back it can screw it up pretty bad and put you out of action.

There are many exercises you can do as a substitute for sit ups that work the area just as well, if not better actually. Take Pilgers great advice and find the best substitute exercises and get stuck into those. Just remember to keep resting your muscles otherwise they cannot rebuild themselves bigger and stronger. Keep pushing and advancing as well to keep your muscles from stagnating.