When has he ever acted like he's a bad ass? when has he ever talked **** to anyone? where are you getting this **** that he's a bad ass? This dude seems very down to earth and cool guy people are tripping saying all this bull**** that he thinks he's the **** and would woop anybodys ass and this and that. He might not be the best MMA fighter or you might not even consider him as one but you gotta respect this dude and if you've seen his training recently he's working on pretty much everything from his ground game to his standup. He throws better punches then brock lesner,brock looked like it was his first time fighting somebody foreals lol. heres a couple of vids of him talking and at no point does he talk **** or say anything about him being a the bad ass that people make him out to be.

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This guy was just presented with an opportunity and took advantage of it, so if your hating on a 35yr old dude and making up **** then you cannot be taken serious.

So stop all this bull**** about him saying or thinking he's a bad ass and would woop everybody!

i dont hate kimbo i just think hes a hype job and will get KTFO as soon as he fights someone whos is in there prime and knows how to fight

Definatly a hype job, I bet Lesnar wishes he was getting to have his first few MMA fights against bums and one guy who appeared to take a dive.

When has he ever acted like he's a bad ass? when has he ever talked **** to anyone? where are you getting this **** that he's a bad ass? This dude seems very down to earth and cool guy people are tripping saying all this bull**** that he thinks he's the **** and would woop anybodys ass and this and that. He might not be the best MMA fighter or you might not even consider him as one but you gotta respect this dude and if you've seen his training recently he's working on pretty much everything from his ground game to his standup. He throws better punches then brock lesner,brock looked like it was his first time fighting somebody foreals lol. heres a couple of vids of him talking and at no point does he talk **** or say anything about him being a the bad ass that people make him out to be.

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This guy was just presented with an opportunity and took advantage of it, so if your hating on a 35yr old dude and making up **** then you cannot be taken serious.

So stop all this bull**** about him saying or thinking he's a bad ass and would woop everybody!

:bottle: :bottle: :bottle: :bottle: Brocks punches didnt look that bad at all, he knocked down Mir couple times, punches looked solid and quick.



PS: Stop *****ing about people *****ing about Kimbo...you sound like a chick "Stop hating on Kimbo"??? Reminds me of that video Palma posted about that "leave brittany alone".

I dont hate the man at all. However i do feel novelty acts like him are bad for and hold back the sport.

I dont hate the man at all. However i do feel novelty acts like him are bad for and hold back the sport.
I like to see anyone of you say that to his face. He is trying to lean mixed martial arts and he only going to get better but I don't think he will ever beat a top ten heavyweight fighter unless they are stupid to stand up with him.

Actually Lesnar is probably happy he took the fight for 2 reasons; he looked better in defeat than Kimbo did in winning, and he got paid $250,000 for that fight. And had Lesnar won he would have got an additional $200,000.

EliteXC is a private company so they dont have to release their salaries, but I'd bet that Kimbo made nowhere near that amount of money.

I mean I don't hate Kimbo as well, but I agree he's a hype job and his fights have been basically novelty acts so far. I know he's barely started and needs these fights for experience and I didn't expect him to fight somebody tough right off the bat, but if you watch both of his fights so far on EliteXC they have been jokes. I mean the first fight he had Cantrel got hit once in the face, went to his stomach and before Kimbo even landed another punch he was tapping out. I was just a little suspicious to me. Then against Tank who hasn't won a significant MMA fight in years, is out of shape, and basically just a guy that like to trade punches. He was perfect for Kimbo and bascially a punching bag.

For me Im just tired of all this hype about him. I mean in that video above he's already on Jimmy Kimmel and I know he's had a report on ESPN, and then finally in his third MMA fight he's headlining a EliteXC card on Showtime against a washed up fighter in Tank. To me that screams novelty act and it just plays into the gullible american audience that likes violence whether there is skills involved or not.

lol @ that kimmel interview. jimmy cracks me up.

I dont hate Kimbo. I do hate his posse that he's smartly steering away from now that he's in a legitimate business. If you watch the videos of him street-fighting, you'll know what I mean.

Actually Lesnar is probably happy he took the fight for 2 reasons; he looked better in defeat than Kimbo did in winning, and he got paid $250,000 for that fight. And had Lesnar won he would have got an additional $200,000.

EliteXC is a private company so they dont have to release their salaries, but I'd bet that Kimbo made nowhere near that amount of money.

Kimbo got around $150,000 from that fight I believe.

I'm not talking about how good he is or who he fought but to the people talking all the **** saying he's a badass blah blah blah, but about his attitude.

Kimbo got around $150,000 from that fight I believe.

Based on his actual MMA record, that is about $148,000 too much.

He only gets that kind of money because of hype, period.

was this the vid 2swell?

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was this the vid 2swell?

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yupp, hotsizzle this is the ***** in you lol.










LEAVE KIMBO ALONE!!!

yupp, hotsizzle this is the ***** in you lol.










LEAVE KIMBO ALONE!!!

hahahahah:lol1: nah I'm just saying stop making **** up and if your not prove me wrong;)

hahahahah:lol1: nah I'm just saying stop making **** up and if your not prove me wrong;)

huh?:s making **** up? me confused. But anyway, when I read the title of this thread I think of that lil ***** brittany fan and you ya heard.

huh?:s making **** up? me confused. But anyway, when I read the title of this thread I think of that lil ***** brittany fan and you ya heard.

yea peepz that opening there mouth saying kimbo think he's a badass and blah blah and I posted prove that nowhere in the vids does he talk **** or anything.
But now that you mention it the headline does remind me of that crazy *****:lol1:

I remember Kimbo when he ran with his crew team kimbo, talked alot of smack acting hard and representing. Now that he is on national television and actually fighting he has to act professional, but to tell u the truth...he aint fooling anybody. Behind the scenes I bet he is the same thug we all knew on youtube. Cant expect him to be saying *****, *****, homie on t.v. now would ya? I remember after he beat Mercer he said "I took on 2 nigge...guys at once" funny ****, its his job to try to be professional. If it were up to him he wouldnt be so humble, he is just trying to prove naysayers wrong about him in this sport being a bad idea...

this is my guess.


hotsizzle reply: LEAVE KIMBO ALONE

I remember Kimbo when he ran with his crew team kimbo, talked alot of smack acting hard and representing. Now that he is on national television and actually fighting he has to act professional, but to tell u the truth...he aint fooling anybody. Behind the scenes I bet he is the same thug we all knew on youtube. Cant expect him to be saying *****, *****, homie on t.v. now would ya? I remember after he beat Mercer he said "I took on 2 nigge...guys at once" funny ****, its his job to try to be professional. If it were up to him he wouldnt be so humble, he is just trying to prove naysayers wrong about him in this sport being a bad idea...

this is my guess.


hotsizzle reply: LEAVE KIMBO ALONE

Well thats the streets homie, tell me you wouldn't talk **** and act hard on the street?

Well thats the streets homie, tell me you wouldn't talk **** and act hard on the street?

well what the heck are u saying about him being humble and not going "blah blah blah im badass" thing? My Bro Blair#32 and you were debating on this subject and now ya saying he badass just because he was in the street. No matter how Kimbo talks or sounds to you he will always be a thug and bad for the sport...PERIOD.

Just watched Dana White on Sportsnet Pacific he quoted "Kimbo Wouldnt win at all in UFC" was pretty cool and funny because sportsnet believed in the hype of Kimbo after he beat Tank and actually put him on sports news and they asked Dana White how Kimbo would do in UFC and he just spoke the truth and said he would lose and brought up how Kimbo lost to Sean Gannon and the UFC put Gannon against a fighter nobody knows and he put Gannon in the hospital for couple weeks, was good.

Dont believe in the hype of Kimbo, believe in what u see when he loses to a B class fighter.


PS: oh and there is no reason to act hard on the street, thats just imature. Im brown, why the **** would I try to be hard and talk slang like im black?

Dude, HotSizzle is a moron. One minute he says Kimbo is great, the next minute he says he never said he was great. One minute says he was not a **** talker, the next he says he was talking **** on the street.

The guy really is clueless on MMA. Anyone who knows anything about MMA will say that you just cant tell much on Kimbo because he has fought HORRIBLE opponents. But yet HotSizzle goes on and on about how we know he has good standup and how Kimbo and Lesnar are about equal.

Here is a guy with NO MMA training and who has been a fan for a short time, yet here he is saying he can tell how good a guy is who has fought 3 jokes for opponents.

..............true

I was watching the Kimbo/Tank fight last night again and watching it made me laugh. I know the commentators are probably paid to say good stuff about Kimbo and are also part of the hype machine, but some of the stuff they were saying was ridiculous. Saying how Kimbo without a doubt proved he belongs in MMA after a victory over Tank. Plus especially Goldberg saying who cares about traditional MMA fighting and that Kimbo puts asses in the seats. I mean like Wells was saying in another thread I thought MMA was trying to get to away from that streetfighting image and now EliteXC has Kimbo and they are promoting that style.

Then the fight with Tank. Im not saying Tank took a dive, but it seemed like he really wasn't trying to hard and even though Kimbo landed some decent shots it seemed like Tank was content with just laying there and collecting his check which wasn't too bad. In the end though my favorite Kimbo fight still is the Bo Cantrel fight. I mean I laugh everytime when I see that fight. Seeing Cantrel take one punch then go to his stomach and start tapping without Kimbo landing another punch just kills me. So I really can't take a Kimbo fight seriously and his fights are what they are and that's a circus act.

Plus especially Goldberg saying who cares about traditional MMA fighting and that Kimbo puts asses in the seats. I mean like Wells was saying in another thread I thought MMA was trying to get to away from that streetfighting image and now EliteXC has Kimbo and they are promoting that style.

Don't forget that Gary Shaw is the president of EliteXC. Shaw is a boxing promoter who is not exactly well thought of in the boxing community. MMA to Shaw is just a way to make money, he could give a **** about the sport itself.

Don't forget that Gary Shaw is the president of EliteXC. Shaw is a boxing promoter who is not exactly well thought of in the boxing community. MMA to Shaw is just a way to make money, he could give a **** about the sport itself.


Good point. I know Shaw takes a lot of **** because he seems to be the guy that gets most of the Boxing cards on Showtime. Plus I know Nonito Donaire was complaing about him because he was screwing him over in some way. So your exactly right Shaw doesn't really care about the sport of MMA and how it progresses. He's a businessmen and usually businessmen care about one thing and that's money.

Dude, HotSizzle is a moron. One minute he says Kimbo is great, the next minute he says he never said he was great. One minute says he was not a **** talker, the next he says he was talking **** on the street.

The guy really is clueless on MMA. Anyone who knows anything about MMA will say that you just cant tell much on Kimbo because he has fought HORRIBLE opponents. But yet HotSizzle goes on and on about how we know he has good standup and how Kimbo and Lesnar are about equal.

Here is a guy with NO MMA training and who has been a fan for a short time, yet here he is saying he can tell how good a guy is who has fought 3 jokes for opponents.
What do you expect? The biggest MMA promotion in the world just made a main event out of a failed pro-wrestler, NFLer and now MMa fighter against Frank Mir.

Sean Gannon anyone?

Dude, the guys amateur wrestling credentials are how he got to be in the UFC. I give alot more weight to that than a guy who did backyard fights on the Net.

And fyi, his opponent said he has a good future in MMA. And Mir is an ex HW Champion, not an over 40, fat, only won one fight in 10 years bum like Tank Abbott is.

I'll put like this; say Lesnar had went out and whipped some bum like Tank. I would be on here saying it proves nothing. Lesnar had a good showing against a very good opponent despite his loss. But you Kimbo nutriders can't seem to grasp that you cannot measure a fighters talent by how good he looks fighting horrible, hand-picked opponents.

Plus I know Nonito Donaire was complaing about him because he was screwing him over in some way. He's a businessmen and usually businessmen care about one thing and that's money.

Yup. Just ask Jeff Lacy about Gary Shaw.

Dude, the guys amateur wrestling credentials are how he got to be in the UFC. I give alot more weight to that than a guy who did backyard fights on the Net.

And fyi, his opponent said he has a good future in MMA. And Mir is an ex HW Champion, not an over 40, fat, only won one fight in 10 years bum like Tank Abbott is.

I'll put like this; say Lesnar had went out and whipped some bum like Tank. I would be on here saying it proves nothing. Mir had a good showing against a very good opponent despite his loss. But you Kimbo nutriders can't seem to grasp that you cannot measure a fighters talent by how good he looks fighting horrible, hand-picked opponents.
Yeah dude, totally.

Lesnar's there because he's a WWE name attraction. Don't kid yourself. They even marketed as a 'world champion pro wrestler' doing MMA. Kimbo's a joke and Lesnar is too. The difference is Kimbo actually fought for money. Amatuer wrestling is not fighting. I've done both. Have you?

As for bums - Anyone here remember Kim Min Soo? The only win Lesnar's ever had in MMA.

Mir is being diplomatic ands a company man. He's employed by Zuffa as an analyst as well. He's not going to **** where he eats.

Keeping my fingers crossed that Zuffa signs up Batista, the Undertaker and any other WWE star to UFC so at last the dream of a royal rumble in the ufc can be a reality.

Mir is being diplomatic ands a company man. He's employeed by Zuffa as an analyst as well. He's not going to **** where he eats.

You have seen the pic of his face after the fight right? Lesnar was doing very well until he got caught.

It was a competative fight vs a damn good opponent, Kimbo ought to try that sometime.

Amatuer wrestling is not fighting. I've done both. Have you?

I posted earlier that guys with good amateur wrestling often do quite well in MMA. I have yet to see a backyard fighter attain top level staus in MMA though.

I've done some BJJ tournaments, but no MMA fights. Considering you claim to have, what is your name? What orgs have you fought for?

Oh yeah Lesnar was kicking ass all 80 seconds leading to his tapout with his ineffective slopfest striking and illegal blows to the back of the head. I hope he gets blasted his next fight and he go back to pretending to be an NFLer, pro wrestler, or whatever other childhood dream he has yet to fail at.

And LOL at comparing amatuer wrestling to aguy who actually had some backyard brawl fights.

And LOL at comparing amatuer wrestling to aguy who actually had some backyard brawl fights.

You did!!! You said they both are jokes. I pointed out that I would bet Lesnar goes further in MMA than Kimbo does. I'll stand by that prediction too.

I posted earlier that guys with good amateur wrestling often do quite well in MMA. I have yet to see a backyard fighter attain top level staus in MMA though.

I've done some BJJ tournaments, but no MMA fights. Considering you claim to have, what is your name? What orgs have you fought for?
As stated before amatuer wrestling isn't fighting. So now that you finally admit you have no experience with either you can safely come of your high horse and look at the clown shows both Zuffa and Shaw are throwing and just admit fans like stupid **** and that's why they keep paying to see it.

And you blame people for speculating about stupid **** in MMA? Well when we are done seeing Kimbo, Lesnar, Gannon, Giant Silva, and Zulu may be they will.

You did!!! You said they both are jokes. I pointed out that I would bet Lesnar goes further in MMA than Kimbo does. I'll stand by that prediction too.
Kimbo's already gone farther by actually chalking up 3 wins to Lesnar's one bum fight and 80 second tap out.

They are both jokes. Welcome to the 21st century's answer to the WWE.

I never said it was! I said that guys with good wrestling credentials often do well in MMA. I THINK Brock will be one. He may not. But, unlike Kimbo, he has fought a very good opponent so we can gauge him.

So where did you wrestle and what orgs did you fight for?

Kimbo's already gone farther by actually chalking up 3 wins to Lesnar's one bum fight and 80 second tap out.

So are you just like HotSizzle in that it is quantity, and not quality, that shows how good you are?

If so, then by your logic Travis Fulton must be better than Randy Couture.

I never said it was! I said that guys with good wrestling credentials often do well in MMA. I THINK Brock will be one. He may not. But, unlike Kimbo, he has fought a very good opponent so we can gauge him.

So where did you wrestle and what orgs did you fight for?
Brock won't amount to a hill of ****. And mir is a very good opponent now? After looking like complete garbage ine very outting save Hardonk? Who BTW has zero ground game to speak of. And after Mir is still recovering from a horrible bike accident. Wow Mir sure got upgraded when it came ti8me to face your WWE hero.

I wrestled DIV 1 in the NW. I fought for 5 different orgs throught out the SW as well. And what's your credentials? Consuming hotdogs and talking **** to a person who is only speculating ridiculously on circus show bull****?

And nice way to complete duck everything I said before and divert the topic to being about me.

Admit it. You are a pro wrestling fan. Nothing wrong with it. Obviously Zuffa's market outreach is working.

So are you just like HotSizzle in that it is quantity, and not quality, that shows how good you are?

If so, then by your logic Travis Fulton must be better than Randy Couture.
Randy Couture always was and still is grossly overrated.

So by your estimation Brock lesnar is better than Kimbo after losing in 80 seconds despite cheating and getting a victory over a bum worse than anything Kimbo's ever fought. Pro wrestling fans suck.

Kimbo's gone further? how, by fighting A Washed up Boxer, an Over The Hill Tank Abbot(who was jus there for the pay cheque) and a Very Suspicious fight against Bo Cantrell?
tell me how is that further then Brock Taking on a Top Level Opponent?
Brock Showed alot more Promise in his Loss then Kimbo has shown in his Circus Fights.
and Yes Where have u fought? Jus Curious.

See above.

And Kim Min Soo has more credibility? LOL at Mir being top level in the past 3 years.

Acutaly Mir has gotten back into it, in his previous fights just after the accident he was in horrible shape and couldnt' train properly for his fights, his last few he has come in in great condition an has been training like his old self when he won the belt.
i think he can make a run for the belt again, an healthy in shape Mir beats almost anyone in the UFC i believe.

When you are done ducking all my obvious points and questions let me know. Until then I am distancing myself from talking about WEE rejects, youtube cartoons and washed up Boston cops. No wonder MMA struggles with people supporting freaks who bring nothing to the sport but the ability to cycle HGH and talk ****.

Acutaly Mir has gotten back into it, in his previous fights just after the accident he was in horrible shape and couldnt' train properly for his fights, his last few he has come in in great condition an has been training like his old self when he won the belt.
i think he can make a run for the belt again, an healthy in shape Mir beats almost anyone in the UFC i believe.
Actually you just ignored Mir's history and nicely dodged my valid point with your speculation over my facts and Mir's own record.

Brock won't amount to a hill of ****. And mir is a very good opponent now?

We shall see on Brock, as well as Kimbo. Mir is an ex HW Champ!!! He broke Tim Sylvia's arm! I would say he is a credible opponent.

I fought for 5 different orgs throught out the SW as well. And what's your credentials?

Where? When? FYI, I'm in the SW. I may have heard of you.

I've done a few BJJ tournaments. I'm a BJJ Blue Belt under Rolles Gracie Jr. Guys at my gym have fought in K-1, EliteXC, IFL, and FFC among others.

And nice way to complete duck everything I said before and divert the topic to being about me.

You brought up your credentials, not me.

And I'm not a WWF fan. I was disappointed Lesnar and Angle initially chose it over MMA.

You say Mir is a has-been. But Mercer, Cantrell, and Abbott are never-weres.

Again, prove your allegations about your supposed credentials.

I named mine....

ducking what questions? about brock being in the wwe? have u done your homework on Brock?
he had the choice right out of College 2 jump into MMA,WWE or Coach Wrestling an he chose the one with the bigger paycheque at the time an went with the WWE.
he then left there 2 try something new an went on 2 tryout for the NFL, an it wasn't for him with no previous FootBall Experience.
He Then went back 2 one of his old choices an started Training MMA 2 years ago an started with Royce Gracie(still no clue why he don't train with Royce anymore)
and with anyone with a Great Wrestling Backround(NCAA Champ) i Believe Brock has a Great Future In MMA.

an i don't know, try breaking your Femur and Tearing All the Ligaments in your Leg and tell me how u'd do right after that.
its taken Mir time 2 get back into it again.

We shall see on Brock, as well as Kimbo. Mir is an ex HW Champ!!! He broke Tim Sylvia's arm! I would say he is a credible opponent.

You do realize how long ago that was right?



Where? When? FYI, I'm in the SW. I may have heard of you.

Arizona, New Mexico and Utah. And you? Oh yeah not at all. Next.

I've done a few BJJ tournaments. I'm a BJJ Blue Belt under Rolles Gracie Jr. Guys at my gym have fought in K-1, EliteXC, IFL, and FFC among others.
Those tournaments and whoever you care to name drop has nothing to do with your experience amatuer wrestling and/or fighting.


You brought up your credentials, not me.

I did because you felt it germaine to the discussion. It's not. You're flailing around grasping at straws because very frankly when you aren't talking about me you haven't a single hope of defending any of your very weak points. You just want the opportunity to stand on a high hill and point your finger at the thread starter as if you are in some way superior. you're not.

You're a WWE fan.

You say Mir is a has-been. But Mercer, Cantrell, and Abbott are never-weres.

Again, prove your allegations about your supposed credentials.

I named mine....
Your credentials are complete joke. And you seriously hold Abbott in lower esteem than Kim Min Soo? You have not a single valid point to make with either clown act.

I saw Erik Paulson with Brock at the UFC. He is probably training out his camp now. Paulson is considered a top-level MMA trainer.

I was cornering one of our fighters at the HDNet fights where Paulson last fought. He was pretty cool and joked around alot. He pulled off a SLICK sub that night too.

ducking what questions? about brock being in the wwe? have u done your homework on Brock?
he had the choice right out of College 2 jump into MMA,WWE or Coach Wrestling an he chose the one with the bigger paycheque at the time an went with the WWE.
he then left there 2 try something new an went on 2 tryout for the NFL, an it wasn't for him with no previous FootBall Experience.
He Then went back 2 one of his old choices an started Training MMA 2 years ago an started with Royce Gracie(still no clue why he don't train with Royce anymore)
and with anyone with a Great Wrestling Backround(NCAA Champ) i Believe Brock has a Great Future In MMA.

an i don't know, try breaking your Femur and Tearing All the Ligaments in your Leg and tell me how u'd do right after that.
its taken Mir time 2 get back into it again.
I believe he doesn't. He failed at fake wrestling, the NFL and is now choosing MMA because he couldn't cut it elsewhere. Can't wait for Brock to debut the chest chop at the next UFC.

Your full of ****. No fighter would ever post the ridiculous crap you do, AND NOT EVEN SAY YOUR NAME. And this after you yourself claimed to have fought.

I never said KimSoo was a great opponent. Out of the 5 guys Lesnar and Kimbo together have fought, only Mir can be considered legit. That's a fact.

:lol1: he's not goin 2 debut the Chest Chop, He's gonna pull out the F5 lol
cool so whats your record so far?
and whens your next comptetion 1bad?

Your full of ****. No fighter would ever post the ridiculous crap you do, AND NOT EVEN SAY YOUR NAME. And this after you yourself claimed to have fought.

Why would I state my name? For you to fail at another straw man arguement that has nothing to do with the topic? And you have yet to state your name. But that's ok because you did a gi tournament once and that's real fighting. I never said what I fought. I allowed you to jump to your own conclusions. Being a predictable moron I allowed you to.

I never said KimSoo was a great opponent.
He must be because you consider him better than Cantrell ( who has a better record).

Out of the 5 guys Lesnar and Kimbo together have fought, only Mir can be considered legit. That's a fact.

Mir is a legit what? recoveree from a severe vehicle accident and a canidate for most consecutive recent losses among UFC heavyweights?

ohh ok, so what style do u fight stackmo?

and how did a Kimbo thread get 5 stars?

ohh ok, so what style do u fight stackmo?

and how did a Kimbo thread get 5 stars?
Fought amatuer boxing and Muay Thai. I also wreslted div1 both greco and freestyle.

But I haven't done any gi jiujitsu tournaments so of course I don't understand fighting. May be I better start name dropping some names that I once saw in the gym. I bet that wins me cred points.

StackMo are you defending Kimbo or are you trying to say Brock isn't much better than Kimbo? Both are circus acts? Im just wondering because I've gotten confused reading your arguements with 1bad and Wells.

Fought amatuer boxing and Muay Thai. I also wreslted div1 both greco and freestyle.

Wow!! Plus your MMA fights. You must be quite a busy guy.

Care to actually try and prove YOUR assertions?

I bet that wins me cred points.

Backing up your claims would.

He's either trolling or he is a lying idiot.

I only posted my creds because of your claims about yours. You gonna back up your claims now?

Both I Believe. But Kimbo Ain't worth defending on the boards, well 2 me anyways.

Dude, HotSizzle is a moron. One minute he says Kimbo is great, the next minute he says he never said he was great. One minute says he was not a **** talker, the next he says he was talking **** on the street.

The guy really is clueless on MMA. Anyone who knows anything about MMA will say that you just cant tell much on Kimbo because he has fought HORRIBLE opponents. But yet HotSizzle goes on and on about how we know he has good standup and how Kimbo and Lesnar are about equal.

Here is a guy with NO MMA training and who has been a fan for a short time, yet here he is saying he can tell how good a guy is who has fought 3 jokes for opponents.

Talking **** of me while I'm offline? lol your pathetic, so now that your making **** up of me please tell me when I said kimbo was great then I said he wasn't.
Please show me when did I say he was talking ****. (and if your referring to my reply to wells about talking **** I was talking about him personally but you wouldn't know that cus obviously you don't know how to read lol)
and I've explained the differences between kimbo and lesnar have but yet you seem to keep going in circles about it and trying to bash on me about it:lol1:
and I've already said what I think about kimbo that he's probably gonna have a couple good fights but when it time to face the top contenders of the division he's gonna get exposed but in the meantime I'm just a fan of his and enjoying his fights.
Oh and I've been a fan of the sport for 12 or 13 years now yea not my whole life but enough to know what it is, but you have yet to answer my question again:rofl: what does me not training MMA have to do with me being knowledgeable of the sport? so are you saying all the MMA analysts and writers that have never trained in MMA also don't know **** about the sport?
And I never said I can tell how good a guy is the only thing I've said is kimbo has good standup thats it. Really where do you get all this bull**** that I'm saying this and saying that? What are you trying to prove that I dont already know or have admitted too? that kimbo will get exposed with against top contenders I've said it, that lesnar has a bright future ahead of him(most likely better then kimbo)yea I've said that too so where are your arguments headed for? Dude your a fuking clown a joke 1bad65"peeleft:

Both I Believe. But Kimbo Ain't worth defending on the boards, well 2 me anyways.

Yeah but there are people on here that will definitely defend Kimbo. Which is sad. I was just wondering what StackMo was defending because his arguement seemed all over the place.

StackMo are you defending Kimbo or are you trying to say Brock isn't much better than Kimbo? Both are circus acts? Im just wondering because I've gotten confused reading your arguements with 1bad and Wells.
Both are circus acts.

what does me not training MMA have to do with me being knowledgeable of the sport? so are you saying all the MMA analysts and writers that have never trained in MMA also don't know **** about the sport?[/B]


It's his favorite strawman arguement because he rolled in a gi once and think it lends him some mystical wisdom above all others. Because actually talking about the topic will expose him as a closet WWE fan with no validity.

Both are circus acts.

Agreed, but I would have to say that Kimbo is the bigger act of the two. At least Lesnar was top notch College Wrestler which meshes well with MMA. Im not saying every wrestler could do well in MMA, but quite a few have. Also Im not saying that Lesnar is going to be a success, but if I had to predict which of the two would make it further in MMA I would have to choose Lesnar. To me backyard fights against bums don't really mean anything.

Agreed, but I would have to say that Kimbo is the bigger act of the two. At least Lesnar was top notch College Wrestler which meshes well with MMA. Im not saying every wrestler could do well in MMA, but quite a few have. Also Im not saying that Lesnar is going to be a success, but if I had to predict which of the two would make it further in MMA I would have to choose Lesnar. To me backyard fights against bums don't really mean anything.
You do realize actually punching people until unconscious is a part of fighting too right?

I'm not discounting Lesnar's amatuer wrestling background or which makes it further than the other. That's not even a topic I'm addressing. Just noting how desperately fans are trying to lend some shred of credibility to Lesnar. Who has spent more time being a fake wrestler, NFL tryout than he has actually fighting. Kimbo's backyard antics can at least be qualified as actual fights.

That said they are both circus acts and the hype and attention they get denotes where the audience is increasingly headed every day.

Sizzle, you do not have to be training MMA to be knowledgeable. But you also said you have been a fan for only a few years. Do you get my point now?

StackMo is a liar who claimed all sorts of creds and won't bother to prove them. Until he proves his cliams he is just a liar in my book.

At least Lesnar was top notch College Wrestler which meshes well with MMA. Im not saying every wrestler could do well in MMA, but quite a few have. Also Im not saying that Lesnar is going to be a success, but if I had to predict which of the two would make it further in MMA I would have to choose Lesnar. To me backyard fights against bums don't really mean anything.

Excellent post. Very well said.

Sizzle, you do not have to be training MMA to be knowledgeable. But you also said you have been a fan for only a few years. Do you get my point now?

StackMo is a liar who claimed all sorts of creds and won't bother to prove them. Until he proves his cliams he is just a liar in my book.
The words of a WWE fan wound me. I need to prove myself to you like you need to learn the word 'dude'.

Sizzle, you do not have to be training MMA to be knowledgeable. But you also said you have been a fan for only a few years. Do you get my point now?

StackMo is a liar who claimed all sorts of creds and won't bother to prove them. Until he proves his cliams he is just a liar in my book.

well I only see 12 years as a couple but enough to know what I'm talking bout so enough with the disrespect buddy:kiss:
and lets get back to the real mma fighters:boxing:

The words of a WWE fan wound me. I need to prove myself to you like you need to learn the word 'dude'.

Call all the names you want, but until you prove YOUR assertions you are a poseur.

yes lets get back 2 the real MMA fighters

Call all the names you want, but until you prove YOUR assertions you are a poseur.
Still adhering to the strawman arguement. Way to fail WWE fan. My assertions are 100% true unfortunately for you it has nothing to do with the topic and your inability to confirm or deny them well serve to further your failings in every arguement you have. Enjoy RAW douchebag.

yes lets get back 2 the real MMA fighters

so who you got henderson or silva?

Now he wants to fight Mike Tyson. Tyson is like 43 years old now. See a pattern yet?

What a joke.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UUUhXOsbpg&eurl=http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164964

How do you put someone on ignore?

Until he proves his assertions THAT HE BROUGHT UP, he brings nothing to the discussion.

No wonder you are considered a joke here.

i posted another thread on it, but i'm leaning towards henderson for the win.

I'd say Henderson, but I would not bet on either one of them. They are both A-level guys at the top of their games right now. Either can win that fight.

How do you put someone on ignore?

Until he proves his assertions THAT HE BROUGHT UP, he brings nothing to the discussion.

No wonder you are considered a joke here.
When you know what you're actually talking about fat ass let me know.

Whatever FakeFighter.

Whatever FakeFighter.
You forgot 'dude' you fat piece of ****.

Furthermore stop hijacking the thread which is about Kimbo Slice.

You do realize actually punching people until unconscious is a part of fighting too right?

I'm not discounting Lesnar's amatuer wrestling background or which makes it further than the other. That's not even a topic I'm addressing. Just noting how desperately fans are trying to lend some shred of credibility to Lesnar. Who has spent more time being a fake wrestler, NFL tryout than he has actually fighting. Kimbo's backyard antics can at least be qualified as actual fights.

That said they are both circus acts and the hype and attention they get denotes where the audience is increasingly headed every day.

I agree with you on the fans. It seems a lot of fans like those kind of fights than the real ones with real fighters. It's sad in a lot of ways.

Could you call Kimbo's fights real fights, I guess you could in the sense because both guys were throwing punches intended to hurt, but they were mismatches and in no way relate to what a real boxing or MMA fight is. As for Lesnar at least his wrestling helps him for and relates to MMA.

Im just kind of suprised since you said you wrestled and you are hard on Lesnar who was a fellow wrestler. I know his WWE stint put down his credibility, but he was still a top collegiate wrestler. I myself wrestled and so did quite a few of my friends. I like Boxing better and watch that more than MMA, but all my friends are into MMA and pretty much all of them root for fellow wrestlers. I know all people aren't gonna be the same, but I would think being a wrestler you would respect Lesnar more than a street fighter in Kimbo.

Lesnar hasn't actually wrestled in 8 years. His accolades are just that acheivements of the past. Why would I favor a guy who looked upon MMA as his last ditch effort becaue he wasn't NFL ready?

To the respect issue: I truly don't respect either more than another. And I want both to depart MMA ASAP. I hold them in equally low regards of respect.

Lesnar hasn't actually wrestled in 8 years. His accolades are just that acheivements of the past. Why would I favor a guy who looked upon MMA as his last ditch effort becaue he wasn't NFL ready?

To the respect issue: I truly don't respect either more than another. And I want both to depart MMA ASAP. I hold them in equally low regards of respect.

It's obvious we won't agree on this and I understand that you think Lesnar is on the same level as Kimbo and both are circus acts. Now I know where you stand. It's just for me that I take collegiate wrestling (even if it was yrs. ago) in higher regard than backyard fights.

See above.

And Kim Min Soo has more credibility? LOL at Mir being top level in the past 3 years.

Brock was suppose to fight Hong Man Choi but Choi was suspended indefinatly by the CSAC. Choi would've been a very worthy first opponent.. although Min Soo Kim is an olympic silver medalist in Judo as well and is better than any of the 3 that Kimbo has fought.

His MMA record unfortunately disagreees with that statement.

There is nothing lower than a guy who does not fight but claims to be a fighter.

His MMA record unfortunately disagreees with that statement.

Because Mercer, Cantrell, and Tank have such stellar MMA records.

There is nothing lower than a guy who does not fight but claims to be a fighter.
Sure WWE fan.

Sure WWE fan.

That's as true as your claims to be a fighter. Poseur

That's as true as your claims to be a fighter. Poseur
It is indeed, fat ass.

Yet ANOTHER incorrect, moronic statement.

What wieght do claim your fights were at?

Yet ANOTHER incorrect, moronic statement.

Correct.

What wieght do claim your fights were at?

In English. I realize your anger has caused you to spell twinkie innards on your keyboard fat ****. But do try to make it in English next time.

While I disagree with HotSizzle's opinion, I at least respect him for being honest about his experience.

Can't say that for you FakeFighter.

I see you will use any excuse to duck the question, so I'll try again.
What weight do claim to have fought at?

His MMA record unfortunately disagreees with that statement.

Wrong. Kim may be 3-6 but his losses have come against the likes of Bob Sapp (Kim's debut), Mighty Mo, top K-1 fighters Semmy Schilts and Rey Sefo, a still game Don Frye in '06, and Lesnar. Kim wasn't built up, he was thrown into tough fights from the start so his record is not an indication of his abilities. By contrast Kimbo has fought Tank who's 1-9 in 10 years, an over the hill boxer with no MMA experience, and a Bo Cantrell who'd dropped 4 straight and had never fought, let alone beat, anyone of note. Nice try though.

Does anybody have the video for the Kimbo/Cantrel fight? I need a good laugh.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=M7wYD9_1YUc

on youtube with the rest of his fights.
couldnt embed it sorry.

How many of you forget that MMA in it's current form in entertainment. There are a bunch of no name excellent fighters with no drawing attraction...why? because no one knows there name, while Kimbo and Lesnar have name recognition. They are ready made brand names, all they have to do is perform... Kimbos people are a little smarter than Lesnar, because we all know that Kimbo doesn't have any martial art pedigree, so he has an excuse for being eased into the sport, but all the while he draws crowds, the crowds that want to see him whoop ass in the ring as he did on the street... While Brock was in such a rush to validate himself as a real MMA threat because of his wrestlign pedigree and immense size, he done already got beat and tarnished his brand...even when he takes lesser fights everybody already knows what's going to happen when he steps up again... while Kimbo can beat a few more cans and make a lto of money for himself and everybody else and may **** around and knock a Tito Ortiz, Ken Shamrock or even as stupid as I may sound right now a Tim Sylvia out if he can pick up some effective ground defense techniques...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=M7wYD9_1YUc

on youtube with the rest of his fights.
couldnt embed it sorry.
Thanks for the vid Wells. I needed that laugh. That punch Kimbo threw looked like it barely landed. There had to be something going on there.

Here is a good article on Kimbo that mentions Lesnar as well:

http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=3251020

Here is a good quote from that article:

"Lesnar was less fortunate. He faced a much tougher opponent in Mir than Slice did in Abbott. And unlike Lesnar-Mir, the outcome of Slice-Abbott was never in doubt. More important, Lesnar showed more overall skills in defeat than Slice did in victory. "

Thanks for the vid Wells. I needed that laugh. That punch Kimbo threw looked like it barely landed. There had to be something going on there.

It was either fixed or extreme fear. It looked alot like Tyson-Seldon did.

Fought amatuer boxing and Muay Thai. I also wreslted div1 both greco and freestyle.

But I haven't done any gi jiujitsu tournaments so of course I don't understand fighting. May be I better start name dropping some names that I once saw in the gym. I bet that wins me cred points.

I'd take you u in 2.

Thanks for the vid Wells. I needed that laugh. That punch Kimbo threw looked like it barely landed. There had to be something going on there.

it looked like a B-O Blow that Kimbo Connected with....B-O blow to Bo hah.

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I know there are Division 1 Freestyle and Grecco tourny's, but college wrestling is by in large collegiant style. The fact that this dude says he wrestled Div 1 Freestyle + Grecco and doesn't mention Collegiant shows that he's either full of **** in regards to being a wrestler or he attended a div 1 school which had an olympic style wrestling club and he came out to a few practices. I don't believe he was a member of a Division 1 wrestling squad based on his comments.

I don't believe anything he says.

He put it out there that he fought, wrestled, boxed, and did Muay Thai. Yet when asked specifics he refused to answer.

I don't believe anything he says.

He put it out there that he fought, wrestled, boxed, and did Muay Thai. Yet when asked specifics he refused to answer.

Yeah I hear you, I'm calling bull**** as well.

Yeah I hear you, I'm calling bull**** as well.

You call Bull****, I call him out.

Nobody can take a basement warrior:boxing: :canada:

nah hes not lying- he fought hoskins at my local gym- he light him up with a sick 5 punch combo

Kimbo getting that money n staying flashy.;)