View Full Version : Best Little Guy
oldgringo 10-26-2004, 05:05 PM Since I don't know how to poll for some reason this is just a normal thread.
Anyway, who is the best "little guy" ever.
Eder Jofre
Finito Lopez
Khaosai Galaxy
Mark Too Sharp Johnson
Just a few guys that should qualify. Little is Bantam on down I guess.
LuKahnLi 10-26-2004, 05:08 PM Chiquita Gonzalez, Fighting Harada, Michael Carbajal, Panama Al Brown, Jimmy Wilde, Pancho Villa, Jeff Chandler, Miguel Canto.....
borikua 10-26-2004, 05:09 PM Finito Lopez...
there was a boxer named Pancho Villa? i hope he was mexican!
LuKahnLi 10-26-2004, 05:12 PM THe question is basically, the best fighter between Bantamweight and Flyweight ever....
The problem with Lopez is he never met another fellow great in their prime. Rosendo Alvarez is good....but not great.
dbacksdude1z 10-26-2004, 05:17 PM Finito Lopez
LuKahnLi 10-26-2004, 05:19 PM baya
NOPE. Pancho Villa was Filipino.
man, thats like having a puerto rican boxer named che guevara.
Sir_Jose 10-26-2004, 05:25 PM I would say Alvarez was better than Carbajal and Gonzales.
Its a toss up between Wilde and Lopez
Great 10-26-2004, 05:28 PM Khaosai Galaxy. Brutal puncher and very good boxer. I vote for him.
LuKahnLi 10-26-2004, 05:28 PM Wilde is probably the best puncher below Featherweight that ever lived.
oldgringo 10-26-2004, 05:32 PM Wilde is probably the best puncher below Featherweight that ever lived.
This is who I forgot...I still put in my vote for Finito.
Jofre's record speaks for itself and I hear he was boxing poetry in motion.
abdiel2k3 10-26-2004, 05:35 PM best little guy?
this is a close one
but it ends up like this
1.stewie from family guy
and
2.mini me
both funny i their own way
ones a genius
ones a retarded baby
bigdlb12 10-26-2004, 05:39 PM I say Lopez, ricardo was great, always came out with his hands up
LuKahnLi 10-26-2004, 05:57 PM I think I am gonna say JOfre.
Khaosai Galaxy is overrated in my eyes. Yeah, he could punch like hell, and holds the record for most jr. bantamweight title defenses, but his opposition was beyond bad.
Eder Jofre was possibly the greatest fighter i've ever had the pleasure of seeing. But when discussing the greatest "little guys" (bantamweight and below), Jimmy Wilde has to be in contention. Unquestionably the greatest flyweight to ever live, that had the punch of a featherweight. Few had the knowledge of boxing and its nuances like Gene Tunney, and he called Wilde the best fighter he had ever seen.
Eder Jofre or Jimmy Wilde is a good pick.
However, these fighters should get some props...
Fighting Harada
Pascual Perez
Ruben Olivares
Carlos Zarate
Terry McGovern
Jung-Koo Chang
mr. bojangles 10-27-2004, 09:20 PM Pancho Villa. The man who beat the man at Polo Grounds, NY. Too bad he died prematurely. :o
JOM'S 10-28-2004, 02:53 AM yeah too bad, I saw in Boxing Rec that he died at age 23 but very good record for a young guy W78 L6 D5 (25KOs) and he beat Jimmy Wilde, I think he is the first Filipino to be inducted to hall of fame....
Maybe we missed out on a legend in the making....
jabsRstiff 10-28-2004, 07:45 AM It's Eder Jofre.
Jofre is one of the best fighters EVER. A top ten lb4lber.
It's Eder Jofre.
Jofre is one of the best fighters EVER. A top ten lb4lber.
Along with Jose Napoles, Jofre is one of the most underrated and unappreciated fighters of all-time. However, i personaly don't have Jofre in my top 10, though very close, i believe around #11 or 12. Also, his comeback from retirement and winning the featherweight title at age 37 is a greater and more difficult feat than Foreman winning the heavy belt at age 45.
oldgringo 10-28-2004, 11:52 AM Along with Jose Napoles, Jofre is one of the most underrated and unappreciated fighters of all-time. However, i personaly don't have Jofre in my top 10, though very close, i believe around #11 or 12. Also, his comeback from retirement and winning the featherweight title at age 37 is a greater and more difficult feat than Foreman winning the heavy belt at age 45.
Why would you say it was the more difficult hill to climb? Just curious...
LuKahnLi 10-28-2004, 11:53 AM Gringo
Maybe because Jofre in his 30s had to maintain his weight. Foreman.....well obviously didn't have to, nor did he.
oldgringo 10-28-2004, 11:59 AM That could be true Lu...but by that logic wouldn't Jofre be more inclined and in better shape to compete for his respective title? Foreman letting his weight go doesn't exactly help him compete against younger, in-shape fighters like Moorer. Plus it's not like 37 is that old. 8 years is a pretty big difference.
jabsRstiff 10-28-2004, 12:12 PM Old....
It's a long-held belief that the stresses put on the fighters in the lower classes is far greater than those on the bigger guys.
That's why someone fighting & being successful at 126, at 37....is just really something to marvel at.
LuKahnLi 10-28-2004, 12:24 PM LIke Daniel Zaragosa was as well. I have seen Zaragosa in person. He ain't all that small.
Dynamite76 09-01-2005, 04:34 PM Chiquita Gonzalez, Fighting Harada, Michael Carbajal, Panama Al Brown, Jimmy Wilde, Pancho Villa, Jeff Chandler, Miguel Canto.....
Jeff Chandler was the man.If not for his eye injury, who knows what heights he could have achieved.
Eric Morel could'nt be too far off. The guy was dominant to say the least.
+= El Jefe=+ 09-01-2005, 04:38 PM Finito Lopez...
undefeated all his carrer he is one of the greatest ever
hectari 09-01-2005, 05:06 PM Pancho villa he was that filipino boxer who messed up jimmy wilde real good and died at 21.
I would also consider micheal carbajal a good lil guy.
But most people do not watch fights below featherweight division.
+= El Jefe=+ 09-01-2005, 05:07 PM Pancho villa he was that filipino boxer who messed up jimmy wilde real good and died at 21.
I would also consider micheal carbajal a good lil guy.
But most people do not watch fights below featherweight division.
what did he die of?
Sweat 09-01-2005, 05:26 PM what did he die of?
he had like some kind of an infection in his mouth before the fight and he still fought to not disappoint the fans and he died after the fight because he was poisoned by his mouth infection.
he had like some kind of an infection in his mouth before the fight and he still fought to not disappoint the fans and he died after the fight because he was poisoned by his mouth infection.
Most sources say that Villa actually had a wisdom tooth extracted the morning of his non-title fight against Jimmy McLarnin, and the resulting infection, which ended up being in Villa's throat, hadn't showed up til a copy of days later when it was discovered by a the same dentist who initially pulled the tooth (Villa also had a few more teeth extracted during that followup visit). It was about a week and a half after facing McLarnin when Villa died, as the throat infection just got worse, and by the time Villa was checked into a hospital, it had already gotten to the point where nothing could be done about it...Poor guy!
As for the thread title, I'd classify these guys as some of the best "little guys" in history;
Jimmy Wilde, Eder Jofre, George Dixon, Terry McGovern, Pascuel Perez, Jimmy Barry, Miguel Canto, Ricardo Lopez, Ruben Olivares, Panama Al Brown, Fidel LaBarba, Pancho Villa, Fighting Harada, Carlos Zarate, Benny Lynch, Frankie Genaro, Manuel Ortiz, Pete Herman...I'm running out of names here, but off the top of my head, there's just a few of the greatest Bantamweights and Flyweights of all-time.
Wilde is probably the best puncher below Featherweight that ever lived.
That's very likely and there's some who would say that Jimmy Wilde was the best puncher who ever lived, no matter what the weight division was.
Boxing Illustrated, for one, had that opinion about ten years ago when they ranked the 40 hardest punchers in boxing history...Wilde sat at the very top of that list in the #1 spot.
The Ring also thought very highly of Wilde's punching prowless, as they ranked him as the 3rd greatest P4P puncher of all-time a few years back (in their fairly recent "100 Greatest Punchers" issue).
Sweat 09-01-2005, 08:45 PM Most sources say that Villa actually had a wisdom tooth extracted the morning of his non-title fight against Jimmy McLarnin, and the resulting infection, which ended up being in Villa's throat, hadn't showed up til a copy of days later when it was discovered by a the same dentist who initially pulled the tooth (Villa also had a few more teeth extracted during that followup visit). It was about a week and a half after facing McLarnin when Villa died, as the throat infection just got worse, and by the time Villa was checked into a hospital, it had already gotten to the point where nothing could be done about it...Poor guy!
maybe he got the mouth infection disease from the british Jimmy Wilde. just playing.
maybe he got the mouth infection disease from the british Jimmy Wilde. just playing.
Gitouttahere!
Sweat 09-01-2005, 08:48 PM Gitouttahere!
i was just playing man. dont get too excited. ;)
i was just playing man. dont get too excited. ;)
I know you were, bro, and so was I.
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