1. Advertisements - It sickens me how many ads there are in the octagon. I sometimes wonder if the fighters get paid more to ground and pound another person on the Mickey's logo or something like that. It's sad that everywhere we go we are bombarded with ads and then even after the HUGE amount of money that the UFC makes from charging absorbent prices through pay per view and tickets they feel the need to plaster the canvas with ads. It's sad what people do to make a buck.

2. It's dishonorable and dangerous - I can't think of any good reason a person needs to be punched or kicked in the face when he is already unconscious on the floor. I do not see why they could not make it stand up everything goes, once you hit the ground it becomes a Ji-Jitsu match. What martial art discipline is ground and pound?

3. The fanboy culture it creates - It seems like everywhere I go people wearing Tap Out or UFC shirts think they are the hardest person in the world when if they have ever even trained at all it was probably 2 months of Muay Thai or BBJ. After a fight or two in boxing I became very humble... I don't feel like I need to impress my friends and prove my ability to fight to myself or anyone else by getting in a bar fight. Getting in the ring is (or at least should be) a great ego check. The ONLY time I would ever put my hands on a person outside of a boxing ring is if someone puts his hands on me, disrespects my girlfriend or hits a woman in my presence. I feel like these days if I step in to a bar everyone is so wanting to prove to their UFC fanboy broski's how tough they are and if I accidentally step on their shoes or spill their drink I'll catch a spinning backfist to the face, where a while ago I would just say sorry and they'd say... "No worries man".

It seems like this sport is just amping everyone up... or maybe everyone is just getting more amped up and this is the outcome of that.

The Fanboy culture thing is pretty funny. Personally, I would never wear a shirt that would make me behave in such ways, ya digs?

yeah man you hit it right on the button with the "fanboy".... Ive been seeing these little punks everywhere with the UFC and affliction logo shirts....getting drunked up and acting like hard asses........and when you are walking around trying to advertise that you are some kind of bad-ass i really find it hard to give you any type of credit.....I mean do you think an off duty navy seal would be walking around with a "Navy Seals" t-shirt....

UFC shirt screams: I love dodge Ram trucks and drink Wild Turkey!

Boxing has just as much advertising if not more. The Taylor vs Pavlik fight was brought to us in part by some new movie or something. Bud has their logo all over the place. It's all about the $$$$.

btw..Affliction was recently banned from the UFC

1. Advertisements - It sickens me how many ads there are in the octagon. I sometimes wonder if the fighters get paid more to ground and pound another person on the Mickey's logo or something like that. It's sad that everywhere we go we are bombarded with ads and then even after the HUGE amount of money that the UFC makes from charging absorbent prices through pay per view and tickets they feel the need to plaster the canvas with ads. It's sad what people do to make a buck.

2. It's dishonorable and dangerous - I can't think of any good reason a person needs to be punched or kicked in the face when he is already unconscious on the floor. I do not see why they could not make it stand up everything goes, once you hit the ground it becomes a Ji-Jitsu match. What martial art discipline is ground and pound?

3. The fanboy culture it creates - It seems like everywhere I go people wearing Tap Out or UFC shirts think they are the hardest person in the world when if they have ever even trained at all it was probably 2 months of Muay Thai or BBJ. After a fight or two in boxing I became very humble... I don't feel like I need to impress my friends and prove my ability to fight to myself or anyone else by getting in a bar fight. Getting in the ring is (or at least should be) a great ego check. The ONLY time I would ever put my hands on a person outside of a boxing ring is if someone puts his hands on me, disrespects my girlfriend or hits a woman in my presence. I feel like these days if I step in to a bar everyone is so wanting to prove to their UFC fanboy broski's how tough they are and if I accidentally step on their shoes or spill their drink I'll catch a spinning backfist to the face, where a while ago I would just say sorry and they'd say... "No worries man".

It seems like this sport is just amping everyone up... or maybe everyone is just getting more amped up and this is the outcome of that.
Boxing frequently has more advertising than MMA. I've even seen fighters trip over a free-standing ad at the edge of the apron. Usually a brand name in the center of the ring, sometimes in the corners on the apron, usually in the actual corners too on the ropes. Plus if you want to see how much time is left in the round, often HBO has a brand name over the clock in the right hand corner of the screen. Not to mention the "Goldenpalace.com" some of the fighters have had etched onto their back, and the advertising patches on their trunks (though they're often not national ads - I'll give you that...)

Affliction has been banned by UFC - but Pavlik wore Affliction the other night.

And it's hypocritical to call MMA dangerous when folks like Gerald McClellan and Leavander Johnson have become permanently disabled or even killed as a result of the boxing competition.

You want to see fanboys? Go start threads that insult Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquiao, or Wlad Klitschko in Non Stop Boxing and see what happens

Boxing frequently has more advertising than MMA. I've even seen fighters trip over a free-standing ad at the edge of the apron. Usually a brand name in the center of the ring, sometimes in the corners on the apron, usually in the actual corners too on the ropes. Plus if you want to see how much time is left in the round, often HBO has a brand name over the clock in the right hand corner of the screen. Not to mention the "Goldenpalace.com" some of the fighters have had etched onto their back, and the advertising patches on their trunks (though they're often not national ads - I'll give you that...)

Affliction has been banned by UFC - but Pavlik wore Affliction the other night.

And it's hypocritical to call MMA dangerous when folks like Gerald McClellan and Leavander Johnson have become permanently disabled or even killed as a result of the boxing competition.

You want to see fanboys? Go start threads that insult Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquiao, or Wlad Klitschko in Non Stop Boxing and see what happens

I was not trying to make this an MMA vs. Boxing thread.

Boxing has been around for a long time and there are some rules I would change to better protect the fighters, so it's likely that there will be a couple incidents. Truth is, there are more deaths and paralysis in professional football (American football) than in pro boxing. It is normally a case of bad reffing and bad stoppages, in MMA it is LEGAL to punch a guy on the ground. His head has no where to go, no ability to absorb the shock really because he is up against the canvas.

The fanboys you talk about are simply fans. I have NEVER seen a guy in a public place wearing a mayweather T-shirt, Klitscho T-shirt or any other boxing T-shirt and felt like they wanted to start a fight with me. I'm talking about real life, I could care less if the MMA guys want to give each other virtual handjobs over who is better.

I was not trying to make this an MMA vs. Boxing thread.

Boxing has been around for a long time and there are some rules I would change to better protect the fighters, so it's likely that there will be a couple incidents. Truth is, there are more deaths and paralysis in professional football (American football) than in pro boxing. It is normally a case of bad reffing and bad stoppages, in MMA it is LEGAL to punch a guy on the ground. His head has no where to go, no ability to absorb the shock really because he is up against the canvas.

The fanboys you talk about are simply fans. I have NEVER seen a guy in a public place wearing a mayweather T-shirt, Klitscho T-shirt or any other boxing T-shirt and felt like they wanted to start a fight with me. I'm talking about real life, I could care less if the MMA guys want to give each other virtual handjobs over who is better.
So by making the distinction, are you saying that if you see a guy in a public place with an MMA shirt on, you think he wants to start a fight with you?

Honest, most guys wearing Tapout or Affliction type shirts on (except at a sports bar where MMA is showing) usually are knuckleheads. I've trained it for awhile now and I don't even own one. I have a few shirts from my gym, and one with a Renzo Gracie JJ logo on it though.

And I don't have any stickers on my car. It's actually hilarious to see those big trucks with the huge Tapout logos covering the back windows though!

Honest, most guys wearing Tapout or Affliction type shirts on (except at a sports bar where MMA is showing) usually are knuckleheads. I've trained it for awhile now and I don't even own one. I have a few shirts from my gym, and one with a Renzo Gracie JJ logo on it though.

And I don't have any stickers on my car. It's actually hilarious to see those big trucks with the huge Tapout logos covering the back windows though!

And I have nothing but respect for people that actually train Mauy Thai, BBJ and are respectful. The fanboys are very reminiscent of Fast and the Furious... and there now even an MMA movie coming out.

So by making the distinction, are you saying that if you see a guy in a public place with an MMA shirt on, you think he wants to start a fight with you?

No but I bet he would mug me from across the room. They don't actually want to fight, just look/act tough.

Agree with TS for the most part...

Except # 2 because there probably won't be much change to that, and I acctually prefered pride rules over UFC and they had stomps and knee's to a downed opponent.