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freedom213
02-16-2008, 07:12 PM
Hopkins knows how to fight South paws and he will dominate Calzaghe with straight punching thru the middle. Calzaghe has the perfect style for Hopkins, he throws wide shots, he doesnt really have much of a jab, and he relies on volume punching. What will he do when Hopkins shows him movement and neutralizes his abiltity to get off? What will he do when the old man hit him with hard rights down the middle and gets his respect early? Hopkins will make this fight look easy.

boxingknight
02-16-2008, 07:14 PM
no he won't, can you blow your brains out if hopkins loses?

MetalVomit
02-16-2008, 07:18 PM
no he won't, can you blow your brains out if hopkins loses?

LMAO. Damn, a little too much, I think Calzaghe has too much for Hopkins at this stage in his career. I'll be shocked if he proves me wrong.

freedom213
02-16-2008, 07:37 PM
no he won't, can you blow your brains out if hopkins loses?

no but ill volunteer to step up to the plate and take you out for the good of mankind!

Dorian
02-16-2008, 07:39 PM
Ha...Ha.....Ha?

adman
02-16-2008, 07:42 PM
Hopkins knows how to fight South paws and he will dominate Calzaghe with straight punching thru the middle. Calzaghe has the perfect style for Hopkins, he throws wide shots, he doesnt really have much of a jab, and he relies on volume punching. What will he do when Hopkins shows him movement and neutralizes his abiltity to get off? What will he do when the old man hit him with hard rights down the middle and gets his respect early? Hopkins will make this fight look easy.

WOULD JOE CALZAGHE BEAT BERNARD HOPKINS?

Bernard Hopkins is, without question, a great fighter, a legend, even if it is he that is the first to say so. His well-honed and crafty ring skills coupled with his heart, belief, and dedication have enabled Hopkins to reign supreme for many years and this simply must confer nobility on Hopkins in the boxing realm. We could mention Jermaine Taylor but this is an exception and also a moot point. Hopkins’ ability in the ring enables him to challenge and beat all styles of fighter - this guy is so talented that not even age can catch up with him! He has however been known to make a mistake but luckily for him it occurred outside of the ring and was oral in nature - the ‘white boy’ incident that we are now all too familiar with. Nevertheless, Bernard Hopkins is a fighter whom wins, and is a gifted boxer that has earned his place in boxing’s hall of fame and in doing so earned the right to call himself a legend.

Joe Calzaghe is, without question, a great fighter, a legend, although you would be hard-pressed to get this statement out of the man himself. His hand speed, mobility, conditioning, heart, focus, and ability to adapt have enabled Calzaghe to totally dominate his division for over a decade and this, as with Hopkins, must confer nobility in the boxing realm, with the added advantage of there being no moot points, as there have been with Hopkins. Joe Calzaghe is a true warrior that has always found a way to win and as a result has propelled himself to the dizzy heights of boxing superstardom. Joe Calzaghe, through his brilliance and dogged determination, has established himself as a boxing legend, with or without Bernard Hopkins.

Would Calzaghe beat Hopkins? It’s very difficult, but not impossible, to imagine Hopkins possessing the punching power to stop someone with ‘terminator’-like qualities. You can hit Calzaghe with everything you got and the man not only keeps coming, but actually steps it up another gear almost as if to act as a deterrent to any further attempt to assault him, and it usually works too!

For Hopkins to win it is very much more likely to be on points, but is this a realistic expectation? If Hopkins could sit back and fight only when he feels comfortable to do so, sneaking home the odd punch here and there and fighting at his own pace, then maybe. A lot of Hopkins’ opponents have been so wary of his abilities, and have perhaps been a little ‘psyched out’ from the pre-fight psychological games that Hopkins likes to play, that Hopkins has been able to get away with winning in this fashion. With Joe Calzaghe as your opponent you’re going to need something more, a lot more in fact. Calzaghe will not have been psyched out in any way and although aware and appreciative of Hopkins’ considerable talent, I don’t think ‘wary’ is in Calzaghe’s vocabulary. Calzaghe’s work-rate will be undeterred and extreme, forcing the ever-green Hopkins to work hard and constant which will undoubtedly have a deleterious effect physically and mentally as the fight wears on because Hopkins is a man that likes to fight at his own pace.

Hopkins’ ability to deal with varying styles of fighters is impressive, but when he meets Calzaghe it’ll feel like he’s fighting all those warriors at the same time and this will be difficult for Hopkins to deal with – Calzaghe’s repertoire is so vast he should be sectioned under the mental health act for multiple personality disorder! Further to this, Calzaghe’s knack of ‘feeling out’ an opponent is second to none and will be equally difficult for Hopkins to deal with. Calzaghe can drop what’s not working, identify and exploit what is or is likely to work, and experiment under the greatest of pressures. Joe Calzaghe can do at a moment’s notice what most fighters never accomplish in their whole careers and that is, CHANGE! Calzaghe is without question a chameleon, in a metaphorical sense. However, if Joe takes his ‘eye off the ball’ for even the briefest of moments then you can bet on Hopkins punishing him for this indiscretion, but Team-Calzaghe will have ensured this is not an option.

The outcome is that Joe’s work-rate, mobility, and adaption to whatever strategy Hopkins chooses to employ, will dishearten and tire the exceptional Hopkins whom will no doubt make every effort to go out on his shield. Bewildered, fatigued, and hurt, Hopkins will begin to lose all sight of hope around the middle of the fight and will become more and more likely to be stopped with each passing second from midway on. The skinny, pasty ‘white boy’ from an obscure valley in South Wales will comprehensively destroy the loquacious, American superstar for whom colour will not be an issue after this fight owing to his newly-acquired literal likeness to a chameleon in that he’ll be muti-coloured as a result of extensive bruising to his head, face and body! There are not many certainties in the gambling capital of the world, Las Vegas, but Joe Calzaghe beating Bernard Hopkins is definitely one of them! As regal as Bernard Hopkins is, it’s Joe Calzaghe to win clearly on points or late stoppage and to be crowned King of the two legends.

BiggyGuns91
02-16-2008, 07:53 PM
whoa there , i believe hopkins will beat calzaghe but not by any means EASILY

freedom213
02-16-2008, 08:02 PM
WOULD JOE CALZAGHE BEAT BERNARD HOPKINS?

Bernard Hopkins is, without question, a great fighter, a legend, even if it is he that is the first to say so. His well-honed and crafty ring skills coupled with his heart, belief, and dedication have enabled Hopkins to reign supreme for many years and this simply must confer nobility on Hopkins in the boxing realm. We could mention Jermaine Taylor but this is an exception and also a moot point. Hopkins’ ability in the ring enables him to challenge and beat all styles of fighter - this guy is so talented that not even age can catch up with him! He has however been known to make a mistake but luckily for him it occurred outside of the ring and was oral in nature - the ‘white boy’ incident that we are now all too familiar with. Nevertheless, Bernard Hopkins is a fighter whom wins, and is a gifted boxer that has earned his place in boxing’s hall of fame and in doing so earned the right to call himself a legend.

Joe Calzaghe is, without question, a great fighter, a legend, although you would be hard-pressed to get this statement out of the man himself. His hand speed, mobility, conditioning, heart, focus, and ability to adapt have enabled Calzaghe to totally dominate his division for over a decade and this, as with Hopkins, must confer nobility in the boxing realm, with the added advantage of there being no moot points, as there have been with Hopkins. Joe Calzaghe is a true warrior that has always found a way to win and as a result has propelled himself to the dizzy heights of boxing superstardom. Joe Calzaghe, through his brilliance and dogged determination, has established himself as a boxing legend, with or without Bernard Hopkins.

Would Calzaghe beat Hopkins? It’s very difficult, but not impossible, to imagine Hopkins possessing the punching power to stop someone with ‘terminator’-like qualities. You can hit Calzaghe with everything you got and the man not only keeps coming, but actually steps it up another gear almost as if to act as a deterrent to any further attempt to assault him, and it usually works too!

For Hopkins to win it is very much more likely to be on points, but is this a realistic expectation? If Hopkins could sit back and fight only when he feels comfortable to do so, sneaking home the odd punch here and there and fighting at his own pace, then maybe. A lot of Hopkins’ opponents have been so wary of his abilities, and have perhaps been a little ‘psyched out’ from the pre-fight psychological games that Hopkins likes to play, that Hopkins has been able to get away with winning in this fashion. With Joe Calzaghe as your opponent you’re going to need something more, a lot more in fact. Calzaghe will not have been psyched out in any way and although aware and appreciative of Hopkins’ considerable talent, I don’t think ‘wary’ is in Calzaghe’s vocabulary. Calzaghe’s work-rate will be undeterred and extreme, forcing the ever-green Hopkins to work hard and constant which will undoubtedly have a deleterious effect physically and mentally as the fight wears on because Hopkins is a man that likes to fight at his own pace.

Hopkins’ ability to deal with varying styles of fighters is impressive, but when he meets Calzaghe it’ll feel like he’s fighting all those warriors at the same time and this will be difficult for Hopkins to deal with – Calzaghe’s repertoire is so vast he should be sectioned under the mental health act for multiple personality disorder! Further to this, Calzaghe’s knack of ‘feeling out’ an opponent is second to none and will be equally difficult for Hopkins to deal with. Calzaghe can drop what’s not working, identify and exploit what is or is likely to work, and experiment under the greatest of pressures. Joe Calzaghe can do at a moment’s notice what most fighters never accomplish in their whole careers and that is, CHANGE! Calzaghe is without question a chameleon, in a metaphorical sense. However, if Joe takes his ‘eye off the ball’ for even the briefest of moments then you can bet on Hopkins punishing him for this indiscretion, but Team-Calzaghe will have ensured this is not an option.

The outcome is that Joe’s work-rate, mobility, and adaption to whatever strategy Hopkins chooses to employ, will dishearten and tire the exceptional Hopkins whom will no doubt make every effort to go out on his shield. Bewildered, fatigued, and hurt, Hopkins will begin to lose all sight of hope around the middle of the fight and will become more and more likely to be stopped with each passing second from midway on. The skinny, pasty ‘white boy’ from an obscure valley in South Wales will comprehensively destroy the loquacious, American superstar for whom colour will not be an issue after this fight owing to his newly-acquired literal likeness to a chameleon in that he’ll be muti-coloured as a result of extensive bruising to his head, face and body! There are not many certainties in the gambling capital of the world, Las Vegas, but Joe Calzaghe beating Bernard Hopkins is definitely one of them! As regal as Bernard Hopkins is, it’s Joe Calzaghe to win clearly on points or late stoppage and to be crowned King of the two legends.

i have to give you some karma for this post very well done.

freedom213
02-16-2008, 08:04 PM
whoa there , i believe hopkins will beat calzaghe but not by any means EASILY

just my opinion

TBEC2
02-16-2008, 08:09 PM
Calzaghe is amazing i admire and respect the man greatly, but Hopkins is gonna make his seemingly flawless style look bad. Thats just what Hopkins does its gonna be a good fight but i see Hopkins pulling it off.

Naps
02-16-2008, 08:43 PM
WOULD JOE CALZAGHE BEAT BERNARD HOPKINS?

Bernard Hopkins is, without question, a great fighter, a legend, even if it is he that is the first to say so. His well-honed and crafty ring skills coupled with his heart, belief, and dedication have enabled Hopkins to reign supreme for many years and this simply must confer nobility on Hopkins in the boxing realm. We could mention Jermaine Taylor but this is an exception and also a moot point. Hopkins’ ability in the ring enables him to challenge and beat all styles of fighter - this guy is so talented that not even age can catch up with him! He has however been known to make a mistake but luckily for him it occurred outside of the ring and was oral in nature - the ‘white boy’ incident that we are now all too familiar with. Nevertheless, Bernard Hopkins is a fighter whom wins, and is a gifted boxer that has earned his place in boxing’s hall of fame and in doing so earned the right to call himself a legend.

Joe Calzaghe is, without question, a great fighter, a legend, although you would be hard-pressed to get this statement out of the man himself. His hand speed, mobility, conditioning, heart, focus, and ability to adapt have enabled Calzaghe to totally dominate his division for over a decade and this, as with Hopkins, must confer nobility in the boxing realm, with the added advantage of there being no moot points, as there have been with Hopkins. Joe Calzaghe is a true warrior that has always found a way to win and as a result has propelled himself to the dizzy heights of boxing superstardom. Joe Calzaghe, through his brilliance and dogged determination, has established himself as a boxing legend, with or without Bernard Hopkins.

Would Calzaghe beat Hopkins? It’s very difficult, but not impossible, to imagine Hopkins possessing the punching power to stop someone with ‘terminator’-like qualities. You can hit Calzaghe with everything you got and the man not only keeps coming, but actually steps it up another gear almost as if to act as a deterrent to any further attempt to assault him, and it usually works too!

For Hopkins to win it is very much more likely to be on points, but is this a realistic expectation? If Hopkins could sit back and fight only when he feels comfortable to do so, sneaking home the odd punch here and there and fighting at his own pace, then maybe. A lot of Hopkins’ opponents have been so wary of his abilities, and have perhaps been a little ‘psyched out’ from the pre-fight psychological games that Hopkins likes to play, that Hopkins has been able to get away with winning in this fashion. With Joe Calzaghe as your opponent you’re going to need something more, a lot more in fact. Calzaghe will not have been psyched out in any way and although aware and appreciative of Hopkins’ considerable talent, I don’t think ‘wary’ is in Calzaghe’s vocabulary. Calzaghe’s work-rate will be undeterred and extreme, forcing the ever-green Hopkins to work hard and constant which will undoubtedly have a deleterious effect physically and mentally as the fight wears on because Hopkins is a man that likes to fight at his own pace.

Hopkins’ ability to deal with varying styles of fighters is impressive, but when he meets Calzaghe it’ll feel like he’s fighting all those warriors at the same time and this will be difficult for Hopkins to deal with – Calzaghe’s repertoire is so vast he should be sectioned under the mental health act for multiple personality disorder! Further to this, Calzaghe’s knack of ‘feeling out’ an opponent is second to none and will be equally difficult for Hopkins to deal with. Calzaghe can drop what’s not working, identify and exploit what is or is likely to work, and experiment under the greatest of pressures. Joe Calzaghe can do at a moment’s notice what most fighters never accomplish in their whole careers and that is, CHANGE! Calzaghe is without question a chameleon, in a metaphorical sense. However, if Joe takes his ‘eye off the ball’ for even the briefest of moments then you can bet on Hopkins punishing him for this indiscretion, but Team-Calzaghe will have ensured this is not an option.

The outcome is that Joe’s work-rate, mobility, and adaption to whatever strategy Hopkins chooses to employ, will dishearten and tire the exceptional Hopkins whom will no doubt make every effort to go out on his shield. Bewildered, fatigued, and hurt, Hopkins will begin to lose all sight of hope around the middle of the fight and will become more and more likely to be stopped with each passing second from midway on. The skinny, pasty ‘white boy’ from an obscure valley in South Wales will comprehensively destroy the loquacious, American superstar for whom colour will not be an issue after this fight owing to his newly-acquired literal likeness to a chameleon in that he’ll be muti-coloured as a result of extensive bruising to his head, face and body! There are not many certainties in the gambling capital of the world, Las Vegas, but Joe Calzaghe beating Bernard Hopkins is definitely one of them! As regal as Bernard Hopkins is, it’s Joe Calzaghe to win clearly on points or late stoppage and to be crowned King of the two legends.

Karma for you. Great post.

rusticraver
02-16-2008, 10:42 PM
Not a convincing argument, Calzaghe has a tremendous jab

Karlos81
02-16-2008, 11:51 PM
Hopkins knows how to fight South paws and he will dominate Calzaghe with straight punching thru the middle. Calzaghe has the perfect style for Hopkins, he throws wide shots, he doesnt really have much of a jab, and he relies on volume punching. What will he do when Hopkins shows him movement and neutralizes his abiltity to get off? What will he do when the old man hit him with hard rights down the middle and gets his respect early? Hopkins will make this fight look easy.




Hopkins wont win 3rds!

Remember Lacy sparred 50rds with Winky..

Calzaghe will dominate if he dont i will chop my balls off.

Prime Hopkins has no chance this puke 4 punch per round clown will get a beating.

RisAri0
02-17-2008, 12:54 AM
iono...b-hop is always a wild card in that ring, he'll adjust to whatever u throw at him... TIMING will be the key in beating Joe and I think he's gonna work on that..

I see Joe overworking himself while trying to overwhelm Hopkins with his fast paced style...but for every 10 punches Joe throws he's countered with something sneaky on the inside or out by Bernard...he will clinch to reserve his own energy then hit low, will use his head as a 3rd fist, etc (mentally it could be very discouraging I can imagine over a course of 45 min)....as Joe keeps expending himself, bernard is timing whatever comes at him and by 7 or 8th round hopkins turns it up with his right hands across the middle...alot of close rounds tho' that can go either way....if anything Joe's mental endurance will be tested...

its gonna be an ugly fight and we both know who the expert of ugly-fighting (yet effective) out of the 2 is.....

and this is one fight where DEFENSE wins this championship in CLINCH city....so many clinches in this fight its scary and Hopkins will buy his time effectively by doing so..

yeahwhatever
02-17-2008, 06:07 AM
Hopkins by decision...he will neutralize Calz like he has most other fighters.

Unseen
02-17-2008, 06:17 AM
Hopkins knows how to fight South paws and he will dominate Calzaghe with straight punching thru the middle. Calzaghe has the perfect style for Hopkins, he throws wide shots, he doesnt really have much of a jab, and he relies on volume punching. What will he do when Hopkins shows him movement and neutralizes his abiltity to get off? What will he do when the old man hit him with hard rights down the middle and gets his respect early? Hopkins will make this fight look easy.

joe has a very good jab actually. he also has very good footwork that people don't realise. i'm telling you hopkins will get beat down like a gran pa.

CardioMonster
02-17-2008, 08:32 AM
Hopkins knows how to fight South paws and he will dominate Calzaghe with straight punching thru the middle. Calzaghe has the perfect style for Hopkins, he throws wide shots, he doesnt really have much of a jab, and he relies on volume punching. What will he do when Hopkins shows him movement and neutralizes his abiltity to get off? What will he do when the old man hit him with hard rights down the middle and gets his respect early? Hopkins will make this fight look easy.

news just in....

no he wont

DA1CATAS
02-18-2008, 12:22 AM
Hopkins knows how to fight South paws and he will dominate Calzaghe with straight punching thru the middle. Calzaghe has the perfect style for Hopkins, he throws wide shots, he doesnt really have much of a jab, and he relies on volume punching. What will he do when Hopkins shows him movement and neutralizes his abiltity to get off? What will he do when the old man hit him with hard rights down the middle and gets his respect early? Hopkins will make this fight look easy.

I Agree with this.

menace
02-18-2008, 10:11 PM
Hopkins by decision is almost an impossibility. How can Bernard outpoint Joe?

Joe throws 100 punches a round and on a good day lands 60.

Bernard doesn't even throw 50 a round.

Rounds are scored on punches landed.

Bernard's only chance is a stoppage or knockout. As the man said earlier, if you catch Joe he comes back at you with everything.

Crazylegs77
02-18-2008, 10:39 PM
Hopkins knows how to fight South paws and he will dominate Calzaghe with straight punching thru the middle. Calzaghe has the perfect style for Hopkins, he throws wide shots, he doesnt really have much of a jab, and he relies on volume punching. What will he do when Hopkins shows him movement and neutralizes his abiltity to get off? What will he do when the old man hit him with hard rights down the middle and gets his respect early? Hopkins will make this fight look easy.

The only chance Hopkins has is to bore Joe to sleep.

SkilledB
02-19-2008, 03:45 AM
I find it ammusing how more than half the people on this board pick the fight winners by what they see at face value and don't comprehend that the intangibles play the biggest factor...Whether or not you thought Hopkins lost both Taylor fights look at it like this: Yes, BHop didn't throw alot but Taylor Didn't land ****. Bhop has always had the Knack for taking away his opponents best asset. Joe is good I won't deny that but being this mythical figure some of you people are making him out to be is going to bite you on your ass. I can't wait for the week after this fight so I can see all the Joe "FANS" come on here and say "LOL I TOLD YOU HE WAS OVERRATED!! PWNED!!." Save this thread and bump it after the fight. Hopkins is going to frustrate the hell out of this guy. You might not like it but hes gonna hold & hit, turn away from the ref and hit Joe on his hip and behind the ear, probably gonna head butt him a little & just all around rough this guy up. The next morning when his hip is sore, He's gonna feel like the 44 year old.

SkilledB
02-19-2008, 03:46 AM
Hopkins by decision is almost an impossibility. How can Bernard outpoint Joe?

Joe throws 100 punches a round and on a good day lands 60.

Bernard doesn't even throw 50 a round.

Rounds are scored on punches landed.

Bernard's only chance is a stoppage or knockout. As the man said earlier, if you catch Joe he comes back at you with everything.


Why do you have Flava Flav in your avatar???

*2TOUGH*
02-19-2008, 03:31 PM
Hopkins knows how to fight South paws and he will dominate Calzaghe with straight punching thru the middle. Calzaghe has the perfect style for Hopkins, he throws wide shots, he doesnt really have much of a jab, and he relies on volume punching. What will he do when Hopkins shows him movement and neutralizes his abiltity to get off? What will he do when the old man hit him with hard rights down the middle and gets his respect early? Hopkins will make this fight look easy.

see the Mikkel Kessler fight you DUM YANK PRICK!!!!1 :bottle::bottle::bottle:

pins0099
02-20-2008, 07:10 AM
What will he do when Hopkins shows him movement and neutralizes his abiltity to get off? What will he do when the old man hit him with hard rights down the middle and gets his respect early? Hopkins will make this fight look easy.

When Hopkins shows Calz movement!!! Calz is much more agile and light on his feet, Calz is succeptable to the straight right I agree but Hopkins has not got a HARD right hand any more, Calzaghe has just been in with Kessler, one of the hardest punchers in SMW division, and didnt even get significantly wobbled. He will walk through Hopkins punch (singular) while landing 7/8 of his own.

Hopkins will be blowing by round 4 I dont care how much of gym rat he is, he wont keep up the pace.

Addison
02-22-2008, 10:38 AM
Hopkins knows how to fight South paws and he will dominate Calzaghe with straight punching thru the middle. Calzaghe has the perfect style for Hopkins, he throws wide shots, he doesnt really have much of a jab, and he relies on volume punching. What will he do when Hopkins shows him movement and neutralizes his abiltity to get off? What will he do when the old man hit him with hard rights down the middle and gets his respect early? Hopkins will make this fight look easy.

:drive: :drive:

Mugwump
02-22-2008, 01:03 PM
I think Calzaghe has a bit too much for Hopkins. I think he'll win by a comfortable points margin.

HOWEVER, I am concerned about how Joe will react to the kind of BIG fight atmosphere that only Vegas can generate. I'm not saying he hasn't fought in big fights. He has. But he has never faced the level of media intrusion he's likely to run smack into in the run-up to April.

Hatton's trainers claimed he was drained by the 24/7 circus and all that went with it. How will Calzaghe - the boy from the middle of nowhere - react? For almost all of his career he's found it impossible to be recognised by the media. Hatton, OTOH, was always the media darling in Britain.

On the other side there's Hopkins, who knows this routine better than a dozen Mayweathers.

It's the one imponderable for me. As a Calzaghe fan it's the issue that worries me most. I suspect Enzo shares similar worries ...

PeROxiDE
02-22-2008, 01:16 PM
I think Calzaghe has a bit too much for Hopkins. I think he'll win by a comfortable points margin.

HOWEVER, I am concerned about how Joe will react to the kind of BIG fight atmosphere that only Vegas can generate. I'm not saying he hasn't fought in big fights. He has. But he has never faced the level of media intrusion he's likely to run smack into in the run-up to April.

Hatton's trainers claimed he was drained by the 24/7 circus and all that went with it. How will Calzaghe - the boy from the middle of nowhere - react? For almost all of his career he's found it impossible to be recognised by the media. Hatton, OTOH, was always the media darling in Britain.

On the other side there's Hopkins, who knows this routine better than a dozen Mayweathers.

It's the one imponderable for me. As a Calzaghe fan it's the issue that worries me most. I suspect Enzo shares similar worries ...

The thing that should worry you most is the fact that judges in Vegas may as well sit in the casino all through the fight, the American always wins. Unless Joe leaves it in no doubt, he will lose. **** me, itll still be a split decision if he knocks bernard out cold.

Mugwump
02-22-2008, 01:23 PM
The thing that should worry you most is the fact that judges in Vegas may as well sit in the casino all through the fight, the American always wins. Unless Joe leaves it in no doubt, he will lose. **** me, itll still be a split decision if he knocks bernard out cold.

LOL. There's that too.

Method
02-22-2008, 02:14 PM
Hopkins by UD.

Too complete for Calzaghe's amateurish, European style.

The straight right hand(s) down the pike while Calzaghe wings, and the short, accurate hook(s) and upper(s) to counter will cause Calzaghe fits.

Calzaghe's footwork and balance/stance are bad. That, coupled with Hopkins' superior movement/footwork/ring generalship will give Calzaghe a look he has never ever seen before. Bernard will clinch/maul and get rough when he needs to, and his in-fighting skills are superior to Joe Cal's.

Furthermore, Bernard's defense is not only better than Joe's, but it's a defensive look the likes of which Joe has never faced.

Bernard has the uncanny ability to take your best weapons away from you.

Work rate is Joe's best attribute, and we have seen Bernard take that away from fighters already (See Holmes, Trinidad, Taylor, Wright, Tarver)

I really think Bernard has the more complete game here, and he's going to be ready with plans A, B and C. Age will not be a factor. I believe people are looking way too in to the Wright fight. NOBODY has has looked good against Wright, and, what's more, nobody has beat Wright as convincingly. Wright was flat out beat up in the championship rounds of their fight, and gassed at the end.

Joe can say whatever the f*ck he wants about "Who have you fought", but truth is that Joe Cal was targeting a few guys that Hopkins beat (Wright, Tarver) as a way NOT to fight Hopkins.

Time will tell, but I love Hopkins chances in this fight.

.Mik.
02-22-2008, 02:23 PM
There are so many things wrong with that post that its hard to know where to start.

Its like you deliberately made all the mistakes that you possibly could.

Savino
02-22-2008, 02:24 PM
I hope B-hop wins but Calzaghe is gonna win all 12rounds imo.

Method
02-22-2008, 06:51 PM
There are so many things wrong with that post that its hard to know where to start.

Its like you deliberately made all the mistakes that you possibly could.

Bullet Proof.

menace
02-22-2008, 08:07 PM
Hopkins won't "easily" beat Joe.

He couldn't "easily" beat Winky Wright - Joe is twice the boxer.

And Jermaine Taylor twice? Joe would eat Taylor.

boxingfan4life
02-22-2008, 09:07 PM
calzaghe will beat hopkins the same way taylor beat and thats by being the busier fighter. will b hop counter calzaghes punches? of course but calzaghe throws lots of flurries and regardless of how good a counter puncher hopkins is he will not be able to counter everything. plus calzaghe ablies very smart pressure and is good at punching from different angles. plus his hand speed will be a deciding factor as well. dont get me wrong it would still be a hard fight for calzaghe but i believe he will still win.

Mike_R
02-23-2008, 11:05 PM
calzaghe has the kind of style that hopkins is best at diffusing.

that said, the dude is 43 years old..

hopkins could win- this is going to be a great fight and an interesting fight. and if hopkins wins it is going to be the ugliest **** anyone's ever seen in a ring- mark my words.
hopkins is either going to finally be too old- or this is going to be a very rough-house type of fight.

but i just want to say that style wise, joe doesn't have anything hopkins doesn't mentally know how to deal with. dealing with it physically is the question thanks to his age.
and joe is definitely a great fighter.

MikeBrew328
02-23-2008, 11:46 PM
I can see B Hop counter Joe A LOT becaue he doesn't extend his punches a lot and Mikk Kessler was doing that a lot in the early rounds.

The Noose
02-24-2008, 02:25 AM
I can see B Hop counter Joe A LOT becaue he doesn't extend his punches a lot and Mikk Kessler was doing that a lot in the early rounds.

I dont think Hopkins fast enough.
Kessler is quicker but couldnt really land his straight shots like he wanted to.

I think peole are under estimating Calzaghe.

.Mik.
02-24-2008, 07:38 AM
calzaghe has the kind of style that hopkins is best at diffusing.

that said, the dude is 43 years old..

hopkins could win- this is going to be a great fight and an interesting fight. and if hopkins wins it is going to be the ugliest **** anyone's ever seen in a ring- mark my words.
hopkins is either going to finally be too old- or this is going to be a very rough-house type of fight.

but i just want to say that style wise, joe doesn't have anything hopkins doesn't mentally know how to deal with. dealing with it physically is the question thanks to his age.
and joe is definitely a great fighter.


See this makes me curious, because as far as I can tell the two fighters most similar to Calzaghe that Hopkins have faced would (in my opinion) be Jones and Taylor, and Hopkins lost to them both. And Taylor is NOWHERE NEAR Calzaghe's level.

Boxing's Future
02-24-2008, 12:34 PM
Hopkins knows how to fight South paws and he will dominate Calzaghe with straight punching thru the middle. Calzaghe has the perfect style for Hopkins, he throws wide shots, he doesnt really have much of a jab, and he relies on volume punching. What will he do when Hopkins shows him movement and neutralizes his abiltity to get off? What will he do when the old man hit him with hard rights down the middle and gets his respect early? Hopkins will make this fight look easy.


Finally a perfect opinion Hopkins will eat Calzaghe alive,because of those reasons B-Hop has that ability in all his fights to take his opponents best weapon away.

Boxing's Future
02-24-2008, 12:36 PM
Hopkins won't "easily" beat Joe.

He couldn't "easily" beat Winky Wright - Joe is twice the boxer.

And Jermaine Taylor twice? Joe would eat Taylor.

wowwwwww u gotta be kidding with both those comments

.Mik.
02-24-2008, 12:42 PM
Finally a perfect opinion Hopkins will eat Calzaghe alive,because of those reasons B-Hop has that ability in all his fights to take his opponents best weapon away.

Why has he lost a number of times then?

Evidently Calzaghe has proven better at maintaining his weapons than Hopkins has proven at taking people's away. Hence why he has not lost, whereas Hopkins has been unlocked 3 times.

Boxing's Future
02-24-2008, 12:46 PM
Why has he lost a number of times then?

Evidently Calzaghe has proven better at maintaining his weapons than Hopkins has proven at taking people's away. Hence why he has not lost, whereas Hopkins has been unlocked 3 times.

that maybe true but hopkins has lost to a top fighter imo calzaghe has fought NO1 near B-hops skill level and what he brings to the table.

Boxing's Future
02-24-2008, 12:48 PM
your record does'nt have to be perfect to be considered the best the guy has fought and beat some of the best in his division

jzpowahz
02-28-2008, 11:54 AM
the fight is going to be ugly. mark my words: the hopkins - winky fight was one of the ugliest most boring fights I have ever seen. The only chance hopkins has is to make another fight like this ie. jab and clinch for 12 rounds.

Personally, I think Kessler would KNFO of Hopkins as well :P

If Joe can keep his distance a bit and stop Bernard from hugging him like he did with Winky then it will be Joe on points or possibly a late stoppage IMO. I hope Joe can finish it early so as to not leave it in the US judges hands though. :cop:

MnTwins24
02-29-2008, 08:15 PM
I also think Hopkins will suprise alot of people in this bout, Calzaghe's style is perfect for Hopkins. I think he'll be confused when he figures out he wont be able to get away with just swinging and swinging. Thats just my opinion. Well see.

50_PENCE_HeaD
02-29-2008, 10:03 PM
Tis funny how everyone is talkin about BHop roughing up Calzaghe....
Calzaghe is no stranger to rough house tactics too, and is more than able to stand and brawl if needed. Seems to me that everyone is underestimating Joe alot. Yes Hopkins is a great counter puncher, but Joe has a lot more in his locker. If plan A doesn't work, it'll be onto plan B, then C and so on... until Joe finds something that WILL work. Joe has the amazing ability to adapt in the ring, and some people seem very ignorant to this fact.
I personally think it'll be a Calzaghe win by stoppage, or a landslide points victory... and thats taking nothing away from Bhop being/having been a great fighter, i just think Calzaghe will have way too much. Joe seems to just know how to win a fight... he will do whatever is needed on the night to get the job done.

freedom213
03-02-2008, 11:08 AM
Tis funny how everyone is talkin about BHop roughing up Calzaghe....
Calzaghe is no stranger to rough house tactics too, and is more than able to stand and brawl if needed. Seems to me that everyone is underestimating Joe alot. Yes Hopkins is a great counter puncher, but Joe has a lot more in his locker. If plan A doesn't work, it'll be onto plan B, then C and so on... until Joe finds something that WILL work. Joe has the amazing ability to adapt in the ring, and some people seem very ignorant to this fact.
I personally think it'll be a Calzaghe win by stoppage, or a landslide points victory... and thats taking nothing away from Bhop being/having been a great fighter, i just think Calzaghe will have way too much. Joe seems to just know how to win a fight... he will do whatever is needed on the night to get the job done.what exactly do you think plan A, B, and C would be? Calzaghe will have a lot of trouble because he throws wide punches and tends to throw off balance, leaning in and reaching. Kessler couldnt take advantage of this but Hopkins will.

freedom213
03-02-2008, 11:14 PM
Hopkins by UD.

Too complete for Calzaghe's amateurish, European style.

The straight right hand(s) down the pike while Calzaghe wings, and the short, accurate hook(s) and upper(s) to counter will cause Calzaghe fits.

Calzaghe's footwork and balance/stance are bad. That, coupled with Hopkins' superior movement/footwork/ring generalship will give Calzaghe a look he has never ever seen before. Bernard will clinch/maul and get rough when he needs to, and his in-fighting skills are superior to Joe Cal's.

Furthermore, Bernard's defense is not only better than Joe's, but it's a defensive look the likes of which Joe has never faced.

Bernard has the uncanny ability to take your best weapons away from you.

Work rate is Joe's best attribute, and we have seen Bernard take that away from fighters already (See Holmes, Trinidad, Taylor, Wright, Tarver)

I really think Bernard has the more complete game here, and he's going to be ready with plans A, B and C. Age will not be a factor. I believe people are looking way too in to the Wright fight. NOBODY has has looked good against Wright, and, what's more, nobody has beat Wright as convincingly. Wright was flat out beat up in the championship rounds of their fight, and gassed at the end.

Joe can say whatever the f*ck he wants about "Who have you fought", but truth is that Joe Cal was targeting a few guys that Hopkins beat (Wright, Tarver) as a way NOT to fight Hopkins.

Time will tell, but I love Hopkins chances in this fight.

If I was from Britain or ****in whales I would still see the logic in this post, Hopkins will make Joe look like an amateur, in an ugly win. nice assesment.

Still Pimpin
03-03-2008, 01:12 AM
I gotta say Hopkins. I don't know that Calzaghe ever played chess like this before.

I wouldn't put money on it but if I had to I'd say B-Hop.

I think the styles are perfect for each other like Hendo vs Silva.......That being said I thought Silva was the superior chess player and I think the same about B-Hop.

The racial comment was way outta line and he deserves an ass whoopin for that (I'm Black)......but it wasn't necessary.

B-Hop is a legendary Champion and a Scientist like Mayweather...... Calzaghe is going to have to be in 3 times the condition he is normally in for a fight to go twelve with Hopkins (at the pace he fights)........but hey if you ask me the Taylor Hopkins fight was thrown by Hopkins (big check $)...... I know it sounds ridiculous but Jermain needed a lil more polish before taking the belt via decision from the champ.

Anyway only way I see Hop losing is if he bull****s for the first 6 rounds....... (I would've took his belt too !). The fact that he has not knocked any of these guys out in his last couple fights proves he's getting old but as far as conditioning goes I think Hop is Randy Cotoure status.......breathing shouldn't be a problem. :boxing:

BattlingNelson
03-03-2008, 02:43 AM
i have to give you some karma for this post very well done.
Great post mate. I agree that Calslappy will stop him around the 10th.

50_PENCE_HeaD
03-04-2008, 08:29 PM
what exactly do you think plan A, B, and C would be? Calzaghe will have a lot of trouble because he throws wide punches and tends to throw off balance, leaning in and reaching. Kessler couldnt take advantage of this but Hopkins will.

That will depend entirely on what kind of direction the fight takes. The point i'm trying to make is that it doesn't matter what tactics Hopkins uses, if he fights on the back foot, if he tries to rough Calzaghe up on the inside or if he tries to come forward looking for a knockout, Joe will be able to adapt to it and reverse it.
Also........ Calzaghe has a good chin, undefeated in 10 years and only on the canvas once, doesn't seem like he has a problem with balance to me. Kessler was a big puncher and landed some decent shots, but not once did Calzaghe look in any real trouble.
I'm not saying Joe doesn't have any flaws, but i just can't see Bhop exploiting anything.

Mike_R
03-04-2008, 10:08 PM
i could picture another tarver-style knockdown against calzaghe- but no knock outs and i doubt joe will ever actually be in trouble

and if hops were to get a KD id already be surprised

The Noose
03-04-2008, 11:48 PM
I thought Kessler being big, fast and throwing hard straight shots would have got to Joe, but he didnt really.

Joes footwork and his ability to find the right distance and range was very impressive. Eventhough he threw wide punches and missed coming in, his gloves were up and his defence isnt bad at all.
Hes much smarter than people give him credit.

Even if Hopkins lands some nice counters and makes it difficult for Joe, i think Joes high tempo, volume of punches and sheer hunger will be enough to beat Hopkins.

He's gone jim!
03-05-2008, 06:32 AM
First off Calzaghe dosen't allways throw wide punches, he's capable of throwing straight ones as well. Also the thread starter said he has no jab which is a bizzare thing to say as he easily out jabbed kessler. Maybe its hard to notice amongst his flurry of punches.
Hopkins can't fight on the backfoot in this one as Joe has faster footwork and will dictate the pace of the fight. Bhops only chance is too make this a rough one similar to the Bika fight. If he does this then I give him a slight chance but I'm not sure he has the stamina anymore.

Method
03-05-2008, 12:13 PM
undefeated in 10 years and only on the canvas once

Twice...and Charles Brewer almost had him out in the 7th round of their fight.

.Mik.
03-05-2008, 06:03 PM
Lets just qualify that.

By 'almost have him out' what he means is that Brewer knocked him down, Calzaghe was up in 3. Knocked Brewer down the same round and then almost knocked him out of the ring to finish the fight.

BSD
03-09-2008, 01:40 AM
I predict Calzaghe winning by decision. Unless Bernard knocks him out, Joe's work rate will be too much.

MnTwins24
03-09-2008, 12:52 PM
As long as Hopkinns's age hasn't completely caught up with him He'll win. You got it right on the button man. He dominates southpaws and Calaghe's style is perfect for him. He has no defense at all, he doesn't keep his hands up, and all his punches are wide. I think Calzaghe will come out and try to throw alot like he usually does then he'll get a stiff counter and then another and that will slow his output down and confuse him. He also obviously doesn't think too much of B-hop and is completely underestimating him. Just my opinion. If anyone wants to bet the piss amount of points I have let me know.

MnTwins24
03-09-2008, 12:53 PM
And thats fighting every top contender too not just no-namers B-hops conesecutive defenses are amazing, and thats a tough division too.

kenny91
03-09-2008, 02:32 PM
Kudos for the overstatement of the year : "Hopkins will beat calzaghe easily"

Perhaps so but not 'easily'. Why so eager to underestimate him, to be honest i hope you eat your words if Joe proves you wrong. To be fair i actually do think Hopkins has a fraction of a chance more than Joe but Joe is not to be taken lightly and it will be close..

Jim Jeffries
03-09-2008, 02:44 PM
Lets just qualify that.

By 'almost have him out' what he means is that Brewer knocked him down, Calzaghe was up in 3. Knocked Brewer down the same round and then almost knocked him out of the ring to finish the fight.

Not to mention that Joe in unbeaten in 17 years, not 10.

Oriachim
03-12-2008, 07:51 AM
correct joe calzaghe is undefeated since 13 years of age.

MaceTheAce
03-14-2008, 01:32 PM
Joe will out work B-Hop all night long, hes deffo gonna lose to a white boy.

50_PENCE_HeaD
03-14-2008, 08:48 PM
Twice...and Charles Brewer almost had him out in the 7th round of their fight.

Yeah my bad.... it was twice..... but Charles Brewer didn't cause him many problems at all really IMO

Lets just qualify that.

By 'almost have him out' what he means is that Brewer knocked him down, Calzaghe was up in 3. Knocked Brewer down the same round and then almost knocked him out of the ring to finish the fight.

Charles Brewer never knocked Calzaghe down.... the fight you're thinking of was against Byron Mitchell, in which Joe was knocked down and then within abut 30 seconds Joe had then returned the favour, knocking Mitchell to the canvas quite heavily.... and then it was an onslaught from Joe, until the ref finally waved it off.
Calzaghes only other knockdown was against an Egyptian fella i think??? (can't even remember his name off the top of my head)... might have been Salem?? All i really remember of that fight was that he kept headbutting Calzaghe and it was quite a dirty fight. But Joe won convincingly on points.

T-97
04-19-2008, 11:23 PM
:rofl::rofl: Whoops!

Ryn0
04-20-2008, 12:00 AM
lmfao.... come again?